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as i did in the last 4 years. ah me. ah, syria who's that is one of the most successful and internationally acclaimed us novelists. her books explore contemporary issues such as gender conflicts, solidarity among women, memory love, and the intersections of science and art. service her tucker is found in her new volume of essays which is due out at the end of the year, feminist philosophy meets family memoir. oh
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aah! with almost 20 books, many of them best sellers that have been translated into over 30 languages theory whose demand is far from being in the shadow of her husband paul author, who is also a writer. ah, the british literature magazine literary review has described her as a 21st century virginia war she says that she found her vocation early on. as a sleepless teenager, ah, it's a little bit. that's the logical, but it really is completely true when i was 13 years old. i spent the summer with my sisters and parents in iceland and iceland, where my father was studying the saga. and you know, in the summer time the sun never sets in iceland and
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i had time to read time to read way into the night because often i couldn't sleep. i read novel after novel after novel after novel. and i remember one of my most beloved books actually still it was then to david copperfield by charles dickens, who i later wrote my ph. d thesis. and i had just finished a particularly affecting scene in david copperfield. and i stood up and i walked across the room and lifted the shade and looked out at the erie late havoc in the night sun. and i thought, if this is what books can do,
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then i'm going to do me. she had already written poems in school, but now she knew that she wanted to make a living as an author. we met her at the brooklyn public library, not far from her new york home history that says that she has always loved libraries. she likes the calm of the reading rooms, as well as the smell of the books and the cards you had to fill out if you wanted to borrow them. ah, these days new yorkers take her books out in the library. ah, whose dread grew up in the town of northfield and the state of minnesota. her american father lloyd, whose bed had norwegian roots, he met her norwegian mother esther vega, on a visit to norway. she moved to the u. s, and they got married. syria was born in 1955,
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and grew up to be bilingual. my mother's mother was living with us when i was around one for about a year. she stayed. so when i started speaking, it was in a region that was being spoken in the household. after she left. i think i forgot norwegian spoke only english when i was for my mother took me and my sister to norway for some months. i promptly forgot english and spoke only norwegian, and when i returned, i think i've forgotten or which and again, when i was 12, my father had a sabbatical. the entire family was in berg in norway, and the norwegian language rushed back to me. so quickly that after that i retain those languages. so what is the point of having 2 languages?
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i think for me it provided me with a sense that there are always at least 2 ways of looking at the world. i've often n g, those people who grew up with, you know, 34, sometimes even 5 languages. because that pluralism, i think, is a secret to thinking well about problems. even while she was at school, who had understood that there were many serious problems in the u. s, for parents did not allow her under 3 sisters to watch tv shows intended for adults . but they were permitted to watch the news. this with
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a time of political polarization and her sweat quickly developed a sense for which side she wanted to be on. the news she was 15 when she helped print t shirts for a student strike after the 1970 kent state massacre in which ohio national guard troops killed 4 on arms, students protesting the vietnam war. ah, she also signed petitions in support of the american indian movement for ame sciri, who spent with a young feminist woman with a conscience just like her mother, who as a teenager, had demonstrated against the nazi occupation of norway in 1940 the rebellious site in you is probably from your mother site because i read that
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she rather went to jail and then we were so proud of her. so during the nazi occupation in norway was early in the occupation. she, her brother and a number of other young people from given us stage to demonstration against the germans and against the german sympathizers. the nazi sympathizers in the town of osh, him outside of our slow and it grew demonstration to about $800.00 people and they started singing and chanting against hitler. well, not right away, but later they were interrogated the students and offered a small fine or go to jail. so my mother was the
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one who took jail and they actually opened an old jail that had been closed in neeson, where they put my mother for 9 days, you know, with a pot in the coroner. and they fed her green potatoes and, and water. and she always said 1st, i never thought they wouldn't let me out, you know, and later in the occupation, no one would have demonstrated in 1978, syria whose threat moved to new york to do graduate studies in literature and columbia university. despite having a scholarship, money was extremely tight, although not quite as tight as she describes. in her recent semi autobiographical novel memories of the future. still then 23 year old often survived on nothing but cheap chicken liver, which cost about $0.39 a pound. one fateful day,
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the student attended a reading at 92nd street. why a well known new york cultural institution. there she made the acquaintance of an older poet, paul auster. and then in 1981 you met pot. i did tell me about this 1st encounter. so yes, my friend and i went listen to the poetry reading and as we were leaving, i looked, i was, we were in the lobby of the y. and there i saw this really beautiful man said i said to my friend, john, i said, you don't know who that is to you. he said, oh yeah, that's paul auster, the poet. i know him and i said, introduce me right now. which he did. and paul, and i got to talking about poetry,
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actually that was we took a taxi downtown, there were some party afterwards and we went on talking well into the night and that was really it. i mean, i think i fell in love with some very, very quickly and i think it took him a few hours from the very start of their relationship. they were equal treating each other with mutual respect that showed itself in their enthusiasm for each other's work. ah, there was never any competition between the 2. quite the opposite. in fact, ah, the syrian paul talk about each other makes it clear that their relationship is special. ah, natalie. $211.00, this woman's not only do i love this women so much. but she's a genius,
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probably living with the smartest woman i've ever met. here it has. she has an insatiable appetite for ideas for literature, for philosophy, philosophy, and we share each others and we share each other's work. but i'm her 1st reader and she's my 1st reader. i trust her completely. and whenever i finish a book, i give it to her because advent book doesn't leave the house until she gives me the impression that every sentence is good. every sentences, more than 2022 theory has developed and paul auster will have been married for 40 years. they supposedly still write love letters to each other which they keep in a box under the bed. ah, the couples daughter sophie auster is a successful singer songwriter. sophie has said in an interview that her parents love could be intimidating because she might never experience something like it
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was the secret for syrian po in a marriage. i think having a sense of that, the other is certainly not a thing, but it's also the other person is not a static being but always continually changing and evolving. and what that means is that there has to be accommodation to the growth of both people on both sides. and that isn't everybody going to create some tug of war? you know, sometimes one person leaps ahead and it isn't, doesn't correspond to what's happening in the other person, but fixing, stopping up the other person. that will,
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i think often inevitably result in misery. and the possibility of not going on. paul told me once that you are each other's 1st readers, always. how critical can you be? oh, here's the bargain. the bargain is absolute and complete honesty and it's been that way from the very beginning. there have been times when we've substantially criticize you have a present like saying, you know, it's not there yet. you know, you have to do it over the ending is just wrong. i mean, this is kind in both directions and i think in every single case we've taken the other person's advice and are we hurt and miserable actually know, and i'll tell you why. because when you know that the other person
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has faith in the project and the nature of the project and in what you're doing and it comes from a position of profound respect, you don't really feel very harsh. and if you have a high quality reader in your own house, says paul, and i do, we consider ourselves very lucky. we're heading over the brooklyn bridge toward park slope, the brooklyn neighborhood, where paul author and theory, whose trad bought brownstone house decades ago. it's a quiet, cozy residential area due to the damage. there are even fewer cars than usual who's. 2 the 2 are also on par in terms of
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international acclaim. both have written best sellers. in the u. s. they're considered the star literary couple. but often media reports about who is that still describe her as the wife of writer paul last or how does she feel about that? let's see, we stopped your age at where you are right now. your age doesn't change, but that would be kind of fun. process by how long do you think it will take until ever reports about paul? it would say the husband of novelist says because once i deeply understood that this was a cultural way of insisting
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that women not assume positions of authority. and that when a woman clearly assumes her own authority, people not everyone, both men and women by the way, not exclusively men, will be out to punish her. and that punishment will take the form of trying to humiliate her in one way or another, or make her feel less than i've seen it happen to many women over and over and over again. if one understands that this really has nothing to do with who you are, who i am, what i think what i know how i feel. it is much easier to deal with and even laugh. i mean,
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i have found that he were hurt. he goes a long way in dealing with sex. siri who spent has received numerous, honorary doctorates and prizes, including the 2019 princess of astoria award, a sort of spanish nobel prize. but what about critics opinions? how much to reviews mean to her? you know, for years i didn't read reviews and i actually told my husband who did read reviews not to and he found great relief in it, not doing it. and then more recently i have read some reviews and i think then i'm able to do it now because i have, maybe it's just being old, but i've acquired a distance from them. i mean, even early on, i remember my 1st novel was so exciting that anyone said anything about it was so
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thrilling. i remember i had oh, you know, a reviewer who just thought this was a work of brilliance and genius and it was so wonderful and the following week i had another review that was just, this is crash nurse to stick, you know, creepy trash. and i thought ok, i'm not, you know, i'm not either when or the but i have to be somewhere in between. it's not every project is a success though. she keeps a special box for books. she's fail to complete. now it just, it was a fail concert, but i really believe that i was, i was working on in some important why the books that i wrote after the so i actually don't look at this with pain. i mean, even though i spent a whole year trying to try to do it, it doesn't, doesn't give me,
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doesn't give me hard except me as a child, syria who's been devoured, book after book. and she's carried her reading habits into her adult life. for years she spent about 4 hours every day reading sometimes more when she is doing research for her work. her interest span many disciplines including philosophy, psychology, neuro, science, biology, psychiatry, and even embryology. ah. in 2015, she was appointed a lecturer in psychiatry and while cornell, medical college in new york, instruct doctors and psychiatrists. ah, because she has no degree in psychiatry, it happens that despite her academic credentials, her students don't always take her seriously. me the fact that
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even though it seems peculiar to people, you know, i do give lectures at various academic conferences. i publish papers and both science and academic journals. i think people find this odd because unless you have a degree in what you're talking about, there is a certain suspicion. the truth is we all of us, every single one of us. if you devote the time to learning whatever it is you want to learn, you can learn it. i think people are surprised. they don't think that so no. but it does take time. it takes many, many hours. and i think for a lot of people starting at square,
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one is painful and it can be painful, especially if you're an older person. oh, you mean i have to, you know, learn this, you know, this from the very beginning. well, yes to do. over the past 4 years, syria who's tried has been more politically active than ever. before the 2020 election, she, her husband and their daughter founded the website writers against trump, together with a number of fellow authors and intellectual. aah! with their main aim was to motivate young people in the swing states to vote writers, we know words matters. they matter because they change mind. we have a choice to make for the future. for the future of our children, the reelection of trump and the republican party could mean the end of democracy in america. since the election, the website has continued under the name writers for democratic action. i think you
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can't let down your guard. it is a relief, however, to have a new administration for we know for years. but the authoritarian forces are still with us. the democracy is still fragile and i feel very, very strongly about continuing to fight for change in this country. racial change, change for families, children and women, and just a wonderful creating a united states that is closer to what is articulated in the constitution. and especially in the preamble, where it says, we, the people, well, we, the people at the time of that,
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of the writing of that preamble was of chris white men with property. it was not women, it was not people of any other color than white or juice. so what we need is a continually actively expanding democracy. that is for everyone, not just every story we tell about ourselves can only be told in the past tense. it winds backwards from where we now stand, no longer the actors in the story. but it's spectators who have chosen to speak. you said a few years ago that when you looked in the mirror,
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if at the age of 40 you were not as happy with yourself as when you looked in the mirror when you were 50. can you remember that? yeah, i think so. here's a very interesting thing about the aging face, which is that, 1st of all, i think most of us don't keep up with her 18 faces. we have a tendency to have a somewhat younger internal model which is probably good for all of us. and also, we're not looking at ourselves all the time, right? this is the phenomenology of the person is that i'm looking at you and you're looking at me, but you're not seeing yourself look at me. but one of the advantages of having an older face, maybe, especially for a woman and maybe especially for a woman that was considered a pretty woman when she was younger,
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