to avoid congenital food producers are the ones primarily responsible for the safety of the food. but you can protect yourself and your family from diseases in the home by applying the 5 keys to safer food use them. you also have a role to play. the one in 6 couples in germany find they're unable to have children. it was the worst thing i could have imagined. i thought that i might never have a child. i think we should judge people. auctions such as target c o using donor eggs are illegal in germany. so when all else fails, many couple seek help abroad. it's a huge had to everything has been criminalized in germany. but elsewhere,

it's become a multi $1000000000.00 industry. it means that the people who do these things aren't criminal. these are just procedures that help people fulfill their dream of having children. when we are in kingdoms, if, when that many of the, sorry, goods and jonas are acting out to financial need me person i meant about, i mean, are, i mean 900 euro? that's nearly twice but a n and a month. gotcha. we are not donation and sorry cassie or lucrative business in europe at what cost? the francisco fab. i always wanted children, but it just never works. like so many she exhausted all the legal options, the reproductive medicine in germany. the whole 9 treatments caused her to blackouts and injure herself, but even that didn't deter her. this is

a washed elem from my leaving you. the thought of not having children was so horrific to me that no matter what back i suffered slack, i'd pick myself up, hop, reactivate my hope, and try the next thing. puzzled. and so gradually we widen the limits that we were prepared to go to and said we'd again with a donated egg. she could have probably got pregnant in germany. it's illegal. she could have got the treatment abroad and faced no legal consequences, but her conscience wouldn't let her do it. about the need. every one who doesn't get pregnant in the normal way, so to speak. suddenly faces ethical question. and in the end, you have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror and live with your decision that's on the speaker in the town come much is possible medically, but remains ethically controversial. egg donation is legal in many western countries and a handful of countries and l. surrogacy 2 in germany,

only the standard fertility treatments there allows heavy but can finish heads up a fertility treatment center. one of more than $130.00 in germany. it's been more than 40 years since the birth of the 1st test tube baby as the procedure was initially dumped. medicine has come a long way since then in vitro fertilization, business standard. 110000 ivy f cycles that performed in germany alone. each year. germany also allow sperm donation and past additional legislation in 2018 that a nation is not allowed. that involves taking the egg of another woman during ivy f treatment. the embryo is then transferred to the prospective mother. surrogacy is also banned here. another woman is artificially inseminated and carries the baby to turn on behalf of the parents. the embryo stems from the sperm and egg of the

prospective parents ordones. 2 years ago, germany strengths and it's a donation knows the legal constraints placed on these procedures have been hotly contested. for years. germany's national academy of sciences has long criticized the restrictions which are based on a law dating back to 1991. there's most of them enough for all design to bring us up and say, i have a 38 year old female patient who is no longer producing eggs. there's a medical side to the case and a psychological and emotional one. i have to tell her that even with only she probably won't get pregnant using a donor egg would be an option for her. but i can't advise her on that. otherwise the state prosecutor will come knocking on like on does, is racial. he says, every year, thousands of women seek help abroad for a handful of countries. it's become a lucrative industry. the vice president is all the worst cases of the all

inclusive packages. and it's like we're going on a nice holiday and we'll get pregnant in the process or maybe not new stuff. it's mixed with commercial interest. comments and trade fans have even sprung up in germany like this one in cologne. last year, before the pandemic locked down to, to a legal loophole, clinics from abroad can advertise fertility services here. the to actually illegal in germany were not allowed to film during the opening hours in order to protect the privacy of members of the public attending the fast. there are also clinics here, advertising surrogacy. the number one choice for those that can afford it, are the american clinics lab prices, surrogacy start at 830000 euros. those with a smaller budget can opt for a ukrainian clinic where the baby package costs 64000 years, some even guarantee

a baby. one clinic made headlines last year went around a 100 newborns were stranded in kiev because look down measures prevented parents from connecting them. the images that were published by to increase pressure on the government were beamed around the world. shortly afterwards, parents from abroad were able to collect the incense, the case triggered an international debate on the ethics of surrogacy the practices legal in some european countries to including the u. k, austria and denmark. but only if it's true istic and not driven by money. greece goes a step further and announce clinics to offer surrogacy to international clients. so nina and her husband decided to seek help in greece. we've changed her name. she wishes to remain anonymous because of the social stigma involved. she says even her friends have criticized. obviously you can't question the morality of it

something it's abusing another woman's body. but for me that i might never have a child was the worst thing i could have imagined. i think we shouldn't judge people many struggle with the decision to use the sarah good because of ethical questions and the cost involved the us or canada would have been our 1st choice. they felt like the safest options, but we just couldn't afford it. then there was ukraine, which would have been the cheapest, but we didn't have a good feeling about it. so greece was the middle path. it was affordable and we felt that it was legally well regulated, and the surrogates were well cared for. laner and her husband were actually half way through the procedure when lameness suddenly got pregnant. naturally, back to the trade fair. i've arranged to meet with a doctor from

a clinic in greece. he's helped a number of german couples, have a baby through surrogacy. so what motivates the salary? good, mother, she goes through a pregnancy for a couple. she's never met. mandavi's a movie. you shouldn't underestimate people's desire to help others. as a doctor working in this area, i always tried to understand why a woman would decide to do the, the hub is over. and over the years, i've noticed that the desire to help other couples is a very powerful motivation. and in my than positive friends and say ok, i bet, assistance, okay. but another incentive for the salary gets, is the financial compensation that they get from this. if it is illegal, to be honest, i would disagree mine if mike during the, showing that money doesn't play a major role in these cases in these, i guess he kind of goes on the streets. okay. that you talked about compensation and 10000 euro. that's, that's legally fixed for real money in greece,

nissan falla. i don't think that all women would undergo this procedure. it's not about the money. okay. okay, but isn't it the case that a business model has developed and figured because there's money involved you know, as a doctor who's been that makes people happy as the in the low tech literature. but is it really just about making others happy? i decide to head to grief, to find out for myself every year, some 200 babies are born in greece to, sorry, goods. the law permits the practice as long as it's actually stick. doing the national economic crisis. it started in 2009 greece began promoting medical tourism to generating come. in 2013 athens open surrogacy to international patients. since then, childless couples have come from all over the world. but there appears to be no

independent checks into the welfare of the salary, gets my contacts on the ground, can't even put me in touch with any experts in this area. but i can speak to someone who wants to be a surrogate. she asked not to be filmed. a clinic has told her she can sign up for sorry to see what youngest child is a little older. she's a single parent with 3 children that emphasizes repeatedly, that her motivation is merely to help. she dismisses all talk of possible health risks. someone comes, god sees us. and when you're doing something good, maybe the next day, those good things will return to you. she has no job. the family of 4 lives from child benefits, 280 years a month and all surrogates are allowed to receive 10000 euros in compensation. but she tells us the psalms involved a much higher. she's been told 30000 and that's a that's a good started life. 30000 euros. $30000.00 heroes would be

a loss of money. a powerful incentive i joined forces with another generalist in flight. the greeted indiscreet, where we're going to poses a couple in the mid to late forty's, who are desperate to have children. greece offers parents that use surrogacy an advantage, a court process guarantees them the parental rights for the pregnancy begins. we inquire to fertility clinic and get an appointment right away. but obviously we can't take that camera and adult 2 inches assistant told us that couples from all over the world managed to have babies here, evidently for loss of money. the cost for us would be between 788-5000 euros of which 222-5002 go to the salary good. that he says we shouldn't try to develop any emotional bond with the surrogate. and she was mainly doing it for the

money because it was incredible. he said right away, she was doing it the money. and yeah, she gets up to a 1000 euros a month, which she's allowed to get done. but then another 10 to 15000 euros. when the baby is delivered on yes, both the doctor and the assistant said, sarah good gets another 10 to 15000 years at 1st. it doesn't sound that hell touristic of michigan. i reposed our experiences to someone from the body responsible for drawing up greek floor in this area. catch us enough on to ducky is the vice president of the national authority of assisted reproduction. i tell her that we've heard from multiple sources that, sorry, good. the motivated by the money and may receive 20 or even 30000 euros. it's totally legal because the total amount of money she could receive is $10000.00 . okay. $20000.00 isn't plans of his payment and the

payment of course, would be against morality would be against human dignity that could not be allowed to be on availability of the human body. i tell her that his perspective parents were supposed to pay up to 85000 heroes. 85. yes. 80. 858-5000. yes. i mean, i learn things from you. this is not possible. this is, this is extra extraordinary on law and i've never heard. so i'm really, i'm very sorry. they treat foreigners like that because we didn't mean that when we said that liquid open, the grid clinics for that reason, we didn't mean that we should, they should explode people, kettle infant doc,

he promises to have the case followed up. some clinics have clearly turned surrogacy into a business. but what about the practice of a nation that's much cheaper than surrogacy? every year, several 1000 couples from germany go abroad to use donor eggs. the number one destination in europe for this service is spain. here too, it's supposed to be out to istic clinics across the country, use thousands of dona eggs in fertility treatments every year and the trend is increasing. but what does it involve for the donors and who profits? i visit the fertility clinics. it's very popular on german 4 and a doctor from austria is responsible for german speaking patients. yes, i have 3 initial contact me times a day of those around 80 percent up to receive the donor eggs. so over the entire year, it adds up under spanish law,

the have to remain anonymous. so i can't meet any of the women who come here. a member of staff explains the medical procedure. when it says this is the operating room or both the patients and the donors have the treatment and then the donor is injected with hormone said that she produces multiple eggs instead of just one. these are then harvested in an operation though relatively safe. it's not complete the risk free, and in rare cases that can be serious complications resulting an injury to organs or subsequent infertility. the groups at the clinic is part of claims to have one of the largest banks in the world. they began storing dona eggs and patient embryos . 30 years ago, i ask how many they have she said, oh lot. i can't tell you exactly how many we have right now. but we can store more

than 60000 embryos at any one time. and we can keep them for many years. yeah. so where do the eggs come from? yeah, of doubling us says egg donation is a part of the culture in spain. here come by this room when i arrived here, that was one of the 1st things that surprised me is there really is this idea of altruism the egg donation in the same way, people in germany, austria donate blood. the financial aspect is there to, of course, the don't receive between 100-1500 euros. depending on how many eggs we get. so it's not that much. and but if a student from the university of valencia does it to treat herself to a weekend in a beater, i personally don't have any problem with that problem. it's still a 1000 euros. is a lot of money for many people. and presumably, it's rarely used to finance a short break. the average young woman in spain lives on a lot less than 1000 years a month. in fact,

nearly 40 percent of young people are unemployed. surely many women feel compelled to give eggs for the money. naturally, the clinics won't pass on the details of any dentist, and it's not a subject that women in spain talk about openly. but eventually, i managed to find someone prepared to talk publicly for the 1st time and on camera about her experience of donating eggs. 5 years ago, 30 year old alia, was a student and didn't have enough to live on. like so many her age, she couldn't find a decent job. she donated eggs 6 times in all $900.00 heroes each time you call me back, then i had a job with very few hours. so my only secure income was $200.00 euros among the us from that i needed to pay both my rent and my fee i gave. we are the 1st time i donated, i can remember getting paid. and the 1st thing i did when i got home was to pay my

rent for the next 3 months of yours, elia knew what to say to be accepted as it don't. it all got me on me. they went to the man, looked at me and asked, so what's your motivation for doing this by and i said, oh, my motivation is altruistic. so i just want to help people and that was, it was just a moment. and i honestly thought either i'm a very good actress or a sociopath or i didn't know what he's or he's a very bad psychologist. i mean, just look at me and all the people who go, they lie to him and he just accepted me and i'm so glad everything fell for years. now, the donation in spain has been on the rise. one of the few critical voices, scientists, consuela, as plaza. she studied the practice, both in spain and internationally. i believe the reason for the increase here is purely financial. she says the clinics have become very skilled in advertising.

because she's already see that on the one hand, the clinic director advertising at women who need financial help, who lacks money on the other day highlight the altruistic side. the idea that those who respond are helping others. they also offer a comprehensive gynecological checkup so that in the end they can say the donation wasn't purely for financial reasons. even though those reasons are obviously there . without that, no one would undergo hormone treatment and take the risk that is clearly environment for race and work. on the one hand, there are women in financial need on the other couples desperately wanting children . so looks at night for couples visiting the clinics. once again, we poses a couple wanting children and immediately guess appointments into clinics. once again, we are unable to film those clinics. assure us that with this method will be able

to have children, the health risks for the donors. and for me, as the mother of play down, we're also encouraged to have a d, n, a test done to rule out any hereditary illnesses. one of the clinics has even running a special offer yet. and she said this is how much it's supposed to cost. then crossed it hourly, but we'll offer you yeah. hilarious. a special deal for you is 7 and a half 1000. but only if you do it this month, then the dna test is free, but come one day later and it will be $3000.00 euros my. what would german doctors say about the price louis hill and is positive to working group some reproductive medicine that are linked to the german medical association. he says the price isn't not high, but he feels special offers and unnecessary extras, like the dna test suggest the money making outfit. that his view is kind of the

either medicine is not just a product that you seldom. and of course, we live from our income and it's not unusual to have bad practices here and there for the ones. but the focus for me is always the patient and not my wallet on the didn't. but that's not the impression i get from what you're saying. the other aspect is the risks to the donor and to myself, we're playing down. doug was all clear when this was clouds. i'm. it needs to be an informed decision. is both sides need to be clear about it. it's a low risk procedure, but not risk free control. and that needs to be clear in the near design. and the donor is not even having the eggs harvested to fulfill her own dream of a family. but for others that gives you more of the stone. so there's a certain moral obligation to think about the welfare of the woman who donated her eggs and spend the time physical risks other one aspect. but what about the emotional side do? don't is experience long term after effects. the

news is another form i don't know, willing to go public 10 years ago. she donated eggs repeatedly and now feels cheated by the clinic. she says no one explained to her the risks involved. she tells me her body reacted so badly to all the hormones that her life was in danger . with the progress in medicine since then, that wouldn't happen today, but she'll never donate again. in your network a i honestly donated because i thought it couldn't be a bad thing, but i thought i was doing something good for another woman. yeah. someone who couldn't get pregnant would receive me and it's anatomy. how ya for that one. and i would benefit financially and i needed the money back that and then, but afterwards i thought about it and a lot more and i don't see it that way. and so you know, may not be 10 years old. noosa is still struggling. she tried hard to

suppress her biological children or not, but i mean, i guess a part of me tries to believe that nothing happened home up a whole i just can't imagine it normally my hand. i prefer to think that my eggs work and weren't fertilized out. i mean more than the yeah. but know when i start to talk about it and all these bad feelings come on, my mom and just not ready for it. but if it is easier to think that nothing has to be okay that my eggs didn't develop fully and there were no children out there with my dna can call me i'll sing on. part of your own identity is clearly more than a quick operation. spanish socio logistics and i went to fullness, has studied the practice of egg donation in europe. she's critical of the spanish

system saying, well, sharp las couples benefit from the clinic so well to the loses of the donors. these in between situation is just not really working for the women that actually her in their reproductive capacity. because neither they're part of altruism very clear because they are, they are forbidden to have any relation with the family. and at the same time, they are not paid what it costs and they are not having to write. so it's a very high pocket situation. she believes society needs to decide either a donation is altruistic or paid properly. if society either government society, spanish society of european society, we decide that we don't mind commercialize in reproductive capacity. then we need to find a proper framework in which to do that with the right of the people who are

actually willing to contribute with their ex are with their reproductive capacity and to have good income to do that. so she's calling for a clear decision on whether it's an act of kindness or a commercial service. but opinion differ based on egg donation and surrogacy. the debate in germany has been going on for years. the national academy as sciences, which carry that can finish, is a part of once egg donation to be legalized. not following on donations have been carried out for more than 30 years now. these days, the band is hard to justify legally ethically, all medically i regret that it can't be carried out in germany in an orderly way. it could be well regulated, so the couples are advised properly, the don't is their advice properly. and that only a limited amount of money is given to the don't spend off,

but others disagree. political scientist, catherine, belongs to a network of scientists. that activity opposes any legalization of ag donation or surrogacy. she says the altruism argument is unrealistic and there aren't enough women who would donate voluntarily. that does i'm $512.00 i'm that means is certain level of compensation will be needed and the amount of when you go then we still won't have enough. you know, the compensation will be increased and before you know, you have a line of business where women are risking their health before the benefits of others, i gain some on a donation. and so i guess the unethical or perfectly acceptable is legalization law, neva, gene. what a government's doing to clarify questions. the german justice ministry referred me to the health ministry, which in turn points to a memorandum written by the german medical association. it says,

there are complex legal, ethical, and societal aspects to consider. the current governing coalition agreement foresees neither the drafting of a new law on reproductive medicine, nor any modification to the existing embryo protection act. so the german government doesn't have the issue on its agenda, and neither is it triggering any new debate on those complex legal, ethical, and societal aspects. those affected will have to wait, francisca fab, i never had a child. instead, she's devoted her life to advising other couples, wanting children, and calling for germany to finally make a decision on the donation and salary. jesse, she says the silence surrounding these issues and the ignorance of many politicians is a disaster. the harness and monica were too afraid to broach the subject. we get rounded by saying it's banned in germany. please go abroad and we abandon tens of thousands to a situation where there is no proper legal framework support and no advice on it because

that's not a love. we just abandon people and then wonder why there's a problem. also, based on the story cassie and egg donation, medical experts in the you took a loss about altruism, but often the sour goodson don't, is just have financial needs, potential problems, both physical and emotional, frequently go unmentioned. meanwhile, those wanting children face a dilemma with know where to turn for objective advice. clarity is needed and rules the affair for all the ah, the news.

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