the, the corona season comes to an end of the brand of a lot. so i just tried to just to go circumstances, go, come a meeting. he was thrilling finale the last day of a memorable season. 60 minutes on d. w. the news there were growing calls for a waving of covert vaccine payden's to increase deliveries to developing countries . but what it's speed up production of the jap, the us things that will be you believes easing, export rules would speed up supplies. if you can give the ip labs that don't know how to produce as they won't produce it over nice,

the figures are telling 30 percent of people in rich nations have had at least one shot in low income countries. it's just point 35 percent. i think i would go one step further and say no, just that the what it is as the school bus in the world is in bikes, you know, but i bet there's all unwelcome as leaders around the world attempt to draw lessons from the cupboard. 19 pandemic. one question remains notably unresolved how to handle vaccine peyton's at present. it's only these companies and a select few. they have licensing agreements with that are allowed to make the jobs . it's a fundamental principle of intellectual property, though the one critic say is costing lives and slowing down efforts to end the pandemic. south africa and india have led calls to see patients wavered more than 100 countries, including the united states, the great germ,

the notable exception with the government coming out strongly against the proposal . so what are the arguments for and against? proponent, se suspending would help economies reopen sooner. it would also save lives and point to the exceptional circumstances of the pandemic. and the fact that pharma companies have benefited from state help that's out taxpayer money. of course, those against say it would hamper innovation slow future responses to future pandemic. they also argue the wave is wouldn't solve production capacity issues and point out that some pharma companies are already selling their vaccines to poor countries at cost price. so is there a resolution to all this incite? i'm joined by elizabeth my suitor. she's an advocacy official with doctors without borders and also by sandy douglas. he's a research group leader at jenny institute at the university of oxford. welcome to both of you. hello, elizabeth, if we can start with you,

we got this back seen in record time. would that have been possible without payments? i would say yes, it would have been possible because the pace of the vaccines have not yet been protected by the patients in the past. year it takes about 18 months for this protection to start, and we saw that it wouldn't have been possible without the massive amount of public funding that has actually gone into these vaccine. so yes, we say this could have been possible and therefore it should be a global public good because of all the public funding that have gone into the fix, you will get to the funding in a moment sandy, what do you think on peyton's, the tool that the drives innovation, i think in the case of our vaccine developed of university, i agree with elizabeth. it would have been possible when i hastens alone, may have been hauled, bring on board after that i or another pharmaceutical company partner in a future in the product where they have some perception. what about all that state

money though? that a miserable mention? shouldn't the state then have a say in how this is all dealt with? yes, absolutely, and noble at the moment went back to being developed as funded by government funded by not for profit by the gate on vacation. or which the cold preparatory paradigm is all of these organizations will attach conditions to funding, which in many cases will prioritize access below and middle income countries. so in the case of the, the doctors in the you had a very active site in what terms it was last dr. seneca, on the, on that with know, just about protecting the interest was also i consideration of protecting access below middle income countries in that process. elizabeth, why is economic giant germany so against waiving peyton well,

as mentioned before, there are a lot of maxine producers and pharmaceutical companies in germany who have the interest of protecting their i. p rights. so they are patients, for example, and biotech and cubic for example, to m r and a produces which have interest and patient seeing those. but i would say the strings attached to the public money. but for example, germany has also invested in biotech, for example, all the u. s. that invested nearly 1000000000 dollars in more durn or for the r n d in the 16th, there were not enough strings attached to the 16th. we want to see effects of conditions for affordability access, and also tech transfer attached to these to these fundings, because also in the case of separate the sandy mentioned just now, they were not strong enough conditioned as additions attached so that you could actually say that needs to be a tech transfer now from the different entities that actually receive their funding . so we would once in the future that this would be kept in mind. we're obviously

talking about exceptional circumstances here, but sending, let me check in with you. if these peyton's wavered would not be setting a dangerous precedent for, for how all of this works in the development of life saving drugs and drugs in general. well, i think that it a really complicated loan, somewhat ideological debate about box and elizabeth and i might take different sides on that. but i think there's quite a different question which is much more immediate and practical, which by what can be done now in the situation that we're in now, to get as much as possible to as many people as possible as, as quickly as possible. and person out of patience all the problem that was mentioned, but i, madonna said over last year they wouldn't enforce that. but that haven't made any difference. availability is i'm

a product in low and middle income countries. i can agree on that one. no. because it's not for maxine, it's not early enough. i would agree. patients are not the only barrier, especially in the short term, but they are one of the barriers and for vaccines we need the waving of patients together with technology transfer. and when will dana and says as a single company, they won't enforce that. that is not the same as the neo security, that a global patient wave i would have about firstly. and secondly, if modern i'm being serious about making the technology and patients available, they would also do a technology transfer to low and middle income countries. we haven't seen this in the, in the panoramic enough far. and that's why we saying this is not, not going on, but i would agree that payments are not the only barrier that they're sandy. what, what else did you want to say that? i think that's to the right folks on the technology transfer and having be involved in the licensing of the vaccine and the discussion about how we do that. one of the

things really, really tricky to think about how you all's, the company to transfer technology really quickly, because it's a lot of hard work. it comes at the expense of other things that company might be doing is how do you force a company to answer an email today, rather than in the morning, for example, is things like that that make me quickly. it's quite easy to say you will technology transfer, but you know, it's really hard to make it happen very efficiently and very fast. i think also it's important to think about whether transferring technology to loaners and come country manufacturers is the best way to increase supply of a particular vaccine on a case by case basis. i think some back thing that probably is on for others. perhaps it's not elizabeth, how much hope you have with us getting behind this initiative. it's an historic move and it shows that ip is exactly, it's been recognized as

a barrier to the scale up. so we need to pay it, and waving, we need the technology transfer and all technology, especially also m r. a should be taken into account because we need to end the condemning. we need to have more vaccines available for more people to save lives and get out of this more quickly suited from doctors without borders and sandy douglas from the genet institute. thanks to both of you. thanks very much. thank you. and his outsides correspondent derek williams, answering your questions on the corona virus. paul, people keep saying we don't know about possible long term effects vaccines, which just sounds like soft vaccine skepticism. what are your views? oh, i think it's almost impossible to have a fruitful conversation about this topic because when someone says, yeah, but how do you know there won't be problems down the road?

then that's sort of destined to turn into a pointless discussion. it's really any discussion that requires predicting the future 100 percent. the problem is in life and in the pandemic, we always have to make decisions about the future based on data that we've collected in the past. we have to choose our next moves based on what that data appears to tell us. it's not a perfect infallible system by any means, but it's the best one we have when it comes to decisions like whether or not to get vaccinated. so. so here's what the current data says about vaccines in general. and coven vaccines, in particular, both the c d c and the w h o. emphasize that the chances that vaccines could cause long term health problems are extremely low. because past experience with

many, many different candidates for a wide range of diseases, overwhelmingly shows that when side effects do crop up and they do, they nearly always do so within a few days or weeks of vaccination. the biggest vaccine drive in history though, began many months ago, and hundreds of millions of cobra, 1900 doses have since been administered worldwide. the rollouts are being tracked with an eagle eye. authorities has detected a few possible serious vaccine side effects in some very rare cases, but nothing that indicates any wider trends. on the other hand, we have an absolute mountain of data on the potentially devastating long term side effects that getting covered 19 can cause being able to prevent them effectively

is a huge advantage. so with the evidence saying the advantage so massively out ways any known risk, why wouldn't i want to get vaccinated? i don't have to predict the future. that's use that the data says, it just makes sense. me that i'm painful and thanks for watching. stay safe as you again. ah, ah, 100 off is in life. when i come from rad yourdomain, unimportant of kind of meeting meals and mission. and when i was young, my cancer was brought money on the war tipton's. most

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of what it means to be a woman. welcome to arts and culture. well, just a few weeks ago, at the height of a vicious 3rd wave of the novel corona virus here in europe, it seemed almost impossible. but this past weekend, venice held its course to open its famous architecture, be a knowledge symbolic in a way for the reopening of italy as a whole. and it's been conceived of course well before the pandemic is more relevant now than ever. ah, venice city fighting for its survival as it slowly sinks into a rising sea. now just out of lockdown, venice is hosting its 17th architecture, be a knowledge appropriately titled, how well we live together. the world's most renowned architecture show is looking for the answers. ah, the world is one space one,

and many of the problems we're facing today do require that we think as one. but there's a very big challenge that politically, we're not organized as one behaviorally. we think in our own put it in life in the media space. this years be and i'll aims to see the whole world as one big mega city where everything is interconnected. curator hashim circus has invited anthropologist sociologists, artists, and biologists to come present their ideas on a future that's livable, climate change, as of course, in the foreground. the installation, the alps points to melting glaciers. the city of dust is about venice itself. visitors walk across these tiles, destroying them in the process. a criticism of the over tourism threatening the city of survey. the there are also new ideas like biotech architecture. imagine growing algae in your own living room as a source of protein. this,

your invented architects are interested in more than new buildings. they're exploring the big questions for future. many of these problems have grown and science. that doesn't mean that the architecture delegate them to someone that's our role is actually to deal with this complexity by synthesizing orchestrating convening and then pulling all of that together into the project. the 61 countries have pavilion here showing their view of humanity is biggest challenges. the british pavilion pays homage to the public realm upon the standing and opposition to increasing privatization of land worldwide. germany's pavilion isn't as big as fund 3. m p was an a q r code that takes the visitor into the year 2038 when humanities problems are solved. we can only help after the pandemic forced organizers

to reschedule twice and nearly cancel this year's b. and that takes on a lot. let's face it, the future questions are pushing us, the compelling us to think other options than the ones we have today. we're clearly not happy with the answers we have today. so we're compelled to think the future. we have no other option. 5 architects built this laboratory as a playground without rules for children and adults. how will we play together? one thing is clear creativity is needed now more than ever. there are no clear answers this time in venice. that would be too much to ask, but at least this architecture knowledge is posing the right questions. the some big questions indeed, and here to talk about them and possibly answer them as my colleague,

adrian kennedy adrian. that's really quite an achievement to have put on that. now as a physical event. yes, a terrific effort after last year, the spokesman, there will be mosques distancing and limited numbers, but organized as a very happy that it's finally under way. 5000 people turning up on the opening days for it's really 1st major public event since cobra 1900 hit. yes, it's incredible. now i mean the show is posing obviously it's very relevant and challenging. question of how will we can we live together? but is there very much in the way of coherent or even helpful answers where he says it's a big question, especially in the context of covert to climate change, the refugee crisis and so on. most of the contributions here work on the level of ot that was an installation at the irish pavilion about the vast amounts of energy from fossil fuels required to maintain data in the cloud. for example,

but concrete ideas for the future of fin on the ground. the spanish w actually features a piece called on certain see can see it here that sums it up a little bit reviews of the say, it's great that it's own, but it's a little bit on focused floor about naming problems then providing concrete solutions. exactly, and i'm just looking here at these examples. they seem really more like sculpture is almost art installations rather than what we would normally consider architecture. that's why of course, the absence of big name, architects and big trade. my a be big buildings is part of the concept. now p. now your day is a turkish american architect who's pieces. acid ocean and plastic ocean are included. she says, architecture is now developing empathy for other living things that it's actually good that the emphasis on building making profits with ever bigger buildings we need, she says, an architecture of dissolving that gives

a space for non human and that's an interest. that's an interesting point. so quite a radical way of looking at how architecture can function in a way, do you think you have anything that does look like a real building? just to finish. we take a quick look at the work of germans. i came mingus and clippers, a 2 story steel structure with fibers, golf fibers spun around it's exciting conte fusion showing off new technical, technological possibilities. and addresses the consumption of resources related to materials like concrete, for example, and proposes buildings not with solid materials. transparent and very fibrous, not really something i'd recommend for november or december, even even even may in berlin. but thanks very much for bringing us back story and most eye catching pictures. adrian kennedy. thank you. in other culture, news,

marvel studios released the 1st footage of eternal which boasts and a list of cast, including angelina or lisa. my hired and richard madden, of body guard fame, all in a 2 minute trailer fans of the comic franchise. got a taste of what's to come in the film adaptation of the eternal comics about the team of humanoid. and that's directed by the oscar winning filmmaker chloe now and scheduled for release in november. and this week in london, the british museum opens the brand new exhibition devoted to nero, one of rome's most infamous rulers show questions the traditional narrative of nero as a roofless tyrants and excessive megalomaniac who murdered his own mother, revealing a different figure. trying to lead in a time of great change in roman society. and berlin has long been a place where people find the freedom to be who or what they want to be. and long

before the current debates over gender identity, it was and continues to be a liberating environment for many artists like really, victoria heifetz and israeli artist who has exhibited across europe the u. s. and israel and for whom drawing is an intimate act of self discovery. the victoria hyphen isn't israeli artist who lives and works in berlin. and the 42 year old opposes pigeon holing wants to put you in one box. and i can understand them. i think also in my brain, i wish to, you know, to wake up one morning and to say, yes, i am a woman. oh yes, i am a man. it never happened to me. ro is art works often to pick the older women, bodies and faces have been rendered invisible by society or pictures, highlight a certain between the body and the soul.

the ro, either studied art in boston and jerusalem knows this tension well, for a large part of her life, she's been mulling questions of self identity. i just found that something is missing. i didn't know what it is. so i don't think that i have if my body i just, i didn't know my body. in some point. in the age of thursday, i felt that i need to explore. i need to go into this journey of exploration. but she was hesitant to express her femininity until she moved to berlin in 2012 year. her expressive art works finally received critical acclaim. and it was here to really victoria high fits, began to show herself publicly as

a woman. the land has a kind of a mystery for gender solidity, which i knew it is a city that can make me feel more safe to cry. so it was a kind of intuition. so they knew that i will be able to do it here. i really began hormone transition therapy, but it's chosen not to undergo surgery, adopting the middle name, victoria, where we identifies as gender fluid wearing dresses has made her the target of verbal and physical abuse. a grim reality many trans people know too well. why we're transitioning, we are very also very visible and it's not so easy to be visible and at the same time for transition. and so we are very much exp, the violence on the stress also in throwing soon came to recognize the privileges

she once enjoyed. when she presented as male, as a gender fluid person, it's become more difficult where we are works are currently on display at berlin, spool is or gave museum. as part of the exhibition intimacy once founded to document the emancipatory struggle and art of gay men, the museum today focuses on the diversity of sexual identities and gender. railways, artworks, the envious ones, centers on her relationship with her own body. there will bustle that i have about the trans issues. it's with myself and with my body and the same team say i always try to reflect in my own

drawings for works res, key questions relating to self identity in general. and that is what makes them so powerful. well that brings us to the end of this edition, but i do hope you'll join us again next time, same time, same place for more arts and culture. news until then all the best from us in berlin. in the me the news news

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