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against correct rulers and dictatorship, the hope for more security, more freedom, more dignity, have their hopes and fulfilled 10 years after the arrows spring, rebellion starts june 7th on d. w. the gets out. so these are national media yet are still your capital. i will show you and big books . what's happening is you haven't, we are not the ones who are making all this mess in the world isn't buying your denials mister sharp. we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country. despite fresh diplomatic talks, the 6 year war in yemen shows little sign of ending and aid agencies. a warning of a humanitarian catastrophe. as food supplies dwindle, and the covey panoramic takes holes my guess this week from the capital santa is sheriff. foreign minister, the self styled the government,
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he's forced to stand accused of committing shocking crime and killing indiscriminately. why will they stop the sheriff? welcome to convict zone. last month you told iranian tv that the who these were open to a fat and honorable piece. my question to you is, how can there possibly be any fantasy on her after the terrible crimes that you and the other combatants in this war have committed ok. now it is the end of this crazy war which was started by the saudis. what can you say more than that? let's stop this war on the list. sit on the table and find this piece and try to mend what happened in the last few years. so again,
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you cannot just look back and see what have been done right now to med some of what you have done. all of the parties, not only the guys in santa and then i think we can make some peace for the people of the man. not for the conflicting parties. well, when the crimes have been committed and these particularly gruesome crimes, you don't think you can just walk away from them. can you, from torture, indiscriminate killing obstruction, the vital aid use of banned weapons, recruitment of child soldiers, arbitrary detention enforce disappearances. if proved, some of these crimes represent massive violations of international human monetary law for which you can be held accountable anywhere in the world. do you think you can just walk away from these crimes as everyone should be held accountable for what they have done? and the last 6 years, not only one of the parties and the others who have all the money and resources,
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can hide their crimes. those who did crimes should be really put in front of the justice. the 2 courts were that w on your movement sailed be put in front of the courts. are you ready for that? i, i 1st, i'm, i'm in 1st the national salvation government is not the hudy's, the national salvation. government is a coalition of many political parties. what we are talking about when you talk about war crimes, those in the field who committed those crimes from all parties should be held accountable. so let's not talk only about government to appear on t v or go to meetings. let's talk about those on the field who committed those crimes and find who ordered them to do those crimes. so you're trying to distance yourself from the, the who the crimes are you. the fact is that your war has helped bring about the world's worst humanitarian disaster,
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which you and the other warring parties have inflicted indiscriminately on civilians. and anyone who got in your way to answer your question properly. we have not started this war. this one say you started it you but you're continuing. continuing, continuing to target civilians not no, no, no, no, no, no, no. we are, we are defending ourselves. we are defending our people. we are defending our country, i guess the saudis and the america. so again, we will continue the war if they don't withdraw from our country and those crimes that you're talk about. let's look to them. let's not just make it general say, the crimes committed by your people. know the crimes were committed by those who wear the aggressors, not by the image or defending themselves. let's look at the books look to the what happened in the last 6 years and then again, yes, we're ready to face the world and say,
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who did what of what they deserve for such crimes. mister shut off country after country has condemned your intransigence. the us said in february at the security council that can be no peace if the hoof these keep up their daily attacks against the yeah, many people, saudi arabia and other countries in the region. you've said you want good relations with the u. s. then accept. i'm in need yet, and comprehensive see spot as they demanded. we want a real piece. not that these paid for by the saudis, and the america is when you talk about the work condemning the who, these are the, i mean, the forces who are really fighting them. you know why the saudis and the amount of these have spent millions of dollars to create a certain picture about what happens in yemen. and no one knows what happened in our country. read the actual picture. they committed most of the crimes in this
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country. and we know they have done, and we are documenting that think what is happening in the international arena is what the saudis had paid for. and those countries were our condemning. the hope is our country's will have a lot of interest, a lot of business with saudi arabia and the gulf countries. while it says other countries that are doing that, it's not just the other countries, it's the united nations and they're investigating and the international human rights organizations that are pointing the finger firmly at you. now even now, even now, despite the fresh diplomatic efforts that are going on, your targeting murray to the east of santa, where civilians bearing the major impact of new fighting. but that means nothing to you, does it, the more you kill, the more territory you acquire, the stronger your position in the piece talks. that's your calculation, isn't it? let's, let's clarify this to the world. we are not the ones who are making all the smiths
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in the engine. it is those countries who are doing it, not our country, are people in yemen. the national forces are trying their best not to hurt their people. we are really targeting the saudis, we are targeting our enemies because they have destroyed our country when he talk about killing civilians, we are not in the business of killing several years and i can prove it to the world . the world the yo yo yo denied and shot off the world. the world denials the no, no, no, no, no, not the i and we are here to talk to the world come to us and our country last human rights watch. one of the instruments off the u. n. is one of the instruments off the saudis, on the market, is that the u. n. so you and how about how sides the u. s. has
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them both, so don't i'm talking to you and i'm talking to you about what you are doing last month. human rights watch said your forces had shown a shocking disregard for the well being and safety of civilians. the who is indiscriminate artillery and rocket attacks towards populated areas in murray put displaced persons and local communities at severe risk. that's how much you care about civilians, isn't it? we care about our civilians. let's him. like out of events, let's not talk to the media off. now don't i get? i don't try to to change the picture. a bit should be clear. what you are trying now to say is what they talk about us come to us and we'll show you what they're doing to us. we are not targeting our people. if there are any kind of mistakes, we will be accountable for it as we will do proper things for it. but again, when you say you, you you, what about the other party? you just shut your on. i can do what i'm talking to you about what you always fun
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to before. i'm talking to you about what you are responsible for. we talk to the other parties in the conflict about what they're responsible for. now millions, millions, face hunger in your country and your who see forces disrupt and interfere with the aid coming in. why is that? why, why do you interfere with a why on earth would you prevent organizations like the world food program from doing that job and trying to feed people? if there are anything like that, it should be presented and people should be punished if they are doing something improper. so punishment. we don't punish business of trying to stop the a to the minute we will. let's investigate that. not just because you said it, or they said it in the international media. let's put the books on the table as i said, and look to all the details. sometimes in the midst of all these things, you try to make this kind of accusations without proofs let us prove it,
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and we will take the proper action against those who did such kinds of things which stop the 8 hour people. mr. shower of your forces, haven't just restricted the humanitarian agencies. you've actually threatened them as well. the you, an expert said they documented intimidation and direct threats by your people against humanitarian personnel. what business have you got threatening people who are trying to feed the hungry? i'm really hearing something new from you for the 1st time that our people, i mean our government or our personnel are threatening the people. it's such thing occurred. we will be ready to see it and see punish those who are doing that. the un has name v, who's the officials responsible for issuing threats. all of them are from your so called supreme council for the management and coordination of humanitarian affairs . those are include ac made. how made up the most and how was and i will talk
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or you know, these people don't, you do pay them to threaten the agencies? i know them and we don't pay anyone to threaten anyone. and i haven't seen that report. i would, i wish i can put my hand on it. so then i can take some measures regarding this subject because this is my responsibility to follow up on the subject with you and you don't read the reports from the un because it's in the latest report from the panel of experts. you know, you have reports. no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, really see what they sent to us and we respond. we have a special committee to respond. so i also respect the specially what you just mentioned mister sharp. i also responding to the reports of profiteering by your side. the us says you are top political leaders are competing to enrich
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themselves from limited state and public resources. are you one of those top leaders who enriching yourself from this war? no, no, no none. you seem to be amused by you seem to be amused by just these a serious charge, you know, but some said no, no, no, that's not them. yes, but sometimes surprised. now again, this government, let me tell you this government is composed of the g p. c. our party and the hokies and federal law. we are doing our best as a government for the sake of the many people, not for the host is or friday or for any officials whom i try to enrich themselves with this war, we are ready. we are ready and let me tell you the whole word. we and the other party and the saudis on the market is we are ready to be put in front of any kind of institution and see who did what i guess the many people we are in this war to defend our people not to get money or try to get some kind of power and everyone
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knows that. and we have worked for the last 30 years with the many government. so again, well, you know that you guys know that the u. s. panel of experts is track the number of illegal financial schemes that you're running. they include evidence of money laundering scams, creating false supply contracts to transfer huge amounts of cash to individual who think amanda's, and other officials are you personally involved in these? how does all this corruption fit in with your hon principal? not? no, no, no, i'm not involved in anything like that. i'm the minister of foreign affairs. i present my party, the agenda congress party, not duties. and anyone who is committing any kind of illegal action should be punished for it, whoever he is from whatever side they are. again, this war is not to get rich. this what is to defend our borders?
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our land. i'm out of really dignity in this country. and they went home, i try to get behind this kind of accusations, to forget about the saudis and mit crime will fail. they will fail because we don't have enough resources to employ such committees of the u. n. so know what others are doing, but the time will come and we will have american companies working for us and looking to the other side, what they have done, how they get rich, how these kinds of deals have been done to kill the many people and get money out of it, and then in 4th of the world, they say that they are defending the legitimate government. the real picture has been painted by us next, but un investigators international human rights organization, who on the ground, who have evidence of fake financial transactions and the seizure of assets, the illegal seizure of assets belonging to other individuals and companies. in
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september 2019 your specialized criminal court announced the confiscation of funds and by 35 numbers of parliament who just didn't happen to agree with the politics. and they ended up a year later being sentenced to death in the sense that the child was a political sham, wasn't it? why do you have political, shands, instead of fair trials? whatever it said by do, and it's not the full reality you said so last month they disgrace one of their reports. so again, let's be with them and their groups and their committees. and then they can ask us and we can respond, but not just to wait for their reports about what you have said about these kinds of actions. i agree completely with you anything which is i guess the law should not be permitted if anyone has something to complain about, but it on the media. the fact that they have that i need to talk about a little bit shop. they happen to complain about and there's an even doc s i t i'm
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and that i'm talking about your detention centers now. the independent yamini human rights group, montana has charted some of the worst excesses by who the security, especially by the security and intelligence agencies, prefers it says, have been subjected to multiple forms of torture, including amongst other things, nail removal, severe beatings, and electric shocks. you happy about that? you happy about that kind of treatment? no, i'm not happy at all. i am against any kinds of actions which might really go to this kind of, i would say human crimes. so why don't chinese and should be, why don't you do something about them then? what do you want me to do? stop them. you know that right? yeah. i mean, i get no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. let's go to the right way. why we are being blocked here in santa for the last
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6 years. get out to the u. n. that to me to the un security council and i was talk to them not put me out in santa. and we kind of take a plane to london or to new york to talk to everyone in the world. you are putting us here in santa, so you can talk about whatever you want. and here we can not respond to the work. if you're having a spot should off, you'll have a chance to respond now and since 2016 has registered 60 no, no, no of arbitrary detention 770 k know of enforce disappear. so i'm 344 days for you. i'm proud numbers there. my son, re for you is your number. i set that up so that, that us get us. so the international media get us to your capitals and i was show you and big books. what happened again you haven't not, what do you and says,
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i get the saudis to allow me today to take a play and go to london and get you all of our pictures, our books and talking 1st of your people in england or in the us. they don't allow us to take even a small flight djibouti or other places. we are locked here in santa and you are making your own picture, your own movie in those big capitals and try to make us look like criminals. that kind of enough are the saudis, that is, and those who support them and the u. s. on and the, you ok, not the american people, not the british people, they know, but i guess thing mr. buttons in this war don't have to on. so they do, i'm asking you to case your guys, your coalition in particular, what the, who the forces have been doing, talk and the abuse, wholesale abuse of human rights that's carried out by who the security forces. you don't want to talk about it. i understand that there is a note,
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i don't know about it, you know, i know about it, you know, it's worth it, you know, and i'm not going to excuses. i read the reports of the you, i, this is, but this is, this is part of the story. what the one says, this is part of the story. listen to what we will say to you in your homes and your faces out of yemen. you are trying to keep us here in santa and talk about everything in the world. there is a big media campaign base by the saudis, by the market is even by the british to sell their weapons, to show the world that's set on the hood. these are unsubtle law, are the only criminals who committed thinks in this war. you committed some of that war through your british weapons through the american weapons. so again, let's open it for the whole world. who are you and what else can what they did? so i, we are in this war as you well know, it's not just your side. now you can then all the other not thought it condemns as
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3 or 4 mister sharp read the report. you don't, you don't, you don't say you, you are not saying the whole truth of the world through your programs. the un put this out is and the black list, 3 years ago, they paid money. they lifted them from the books. and this is what will happen the saudis will pay a lot of money with the mit is and you will lift them from the books of the crimes they have done. and then you will keep the books for our people here in santa of what they did. money, fox, they just fish are human rights groups have know that another pattern of your oppression and that includes sexual violence and rape, directed specifically at women who politically active. the u. s. has named the senior who's the official. so times are being alleging his involvement in these methods. you see a friend of yours, a colleague of yours. no, i'm a civilian. he's been on the un sanctions 2015. do you ignore the very serious accusations against him? he's director of the criminal investigation department. so you don't really have
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nothing to do with, you know, serious allegations i, i don't know the person, but i read the reports about so times i've been and he died about a week ago. he got it here in santa. and again, as i said, let's open the books, see what everyone did here, and there, there is another site to show you the take charge of the shop. there is no sign that you are taking any of these charges seriously. the, you know, that confirms and december 2019, who's the individual's rate 6 women in detention facilities in and around santa several were right on multiple occasions over extended periods. do you enjoy being known for these crimes 1st, i'm not that heavy. when you speak about these, i am a g p. c member. another part of your relation? we yes, yes. coalition. yes, there's a lot of the israel,
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the part of the something on the other part of the coalition. again, yes. but again, let me tell you something. we'll see some of the reports of the sanction committee, the one of the n on. i take those reports, i sent letters to every department or the ministry concern. this is my role in this whole thing. the minister of foreign affairs cannot be really some kind of a decision making agency who can impose things on local institutions. so we do our shop again. anything like what you have said should be published. should the world know about it? not keep it all in the guests of the you and and the other minutes i'm in institutions. publish it to the world. what are you going to do about very hodges? aren't you concerned about them? what are you going to do? about these charges facing the who we are. you currently are part. what are you
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going to do? look, i mean ok, we will tell them what they have, what we have received. i use ations again still and then use asians and then know who said know who's going to invest when you run the stocks in a musket well investigation? anyone who did anything to any human citizen, i can assure you of this. if i'm not doing it, other people who do it, mister sheriff, given everything the world now knows about the brutality of hoofbeats and the corruption during this war. i'm wondering what a piece time who the government would look like, especially one that is charged with torturing its opponents, stealing the assets and raping politically active women does not qualify, but who sees to take part in peacetime government in yemen? ask your friends the americans. what they are talking to them in must got the why, why they're trying to,
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to take them on the table and deal with them nicely to get them to stop firing squad missiles to the saudis. you have to know this interests make the, the ends of all worse. proctor the americans as their mother do that while there is all these reports, why you're in the media are trying to show something for a certain purpose. we tell you that we have not, we have not done anything that might create hate against us as a government in santa well, depending on the abuse monday morning, this is of no concern. and no consequence. only human rights abuses that i've listed and all, and all these killings and all these killings by your place, by the saudis, an american forces and does that outlined by abuse by 300000? no one has committed crimes. does that job wouldn't rights abuse, dont but at dot,
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but dont but the human rights against what has happened to us, the destruction and the killing of about 350000 yemen is by the saudi place or the amount of the place. and you come here to talk about, let's say, tens or hundreds of people. we will investigate everything. but at the same time, you should be accountable. you are the word, including britain, on the us, on the saudis, and that is for the hundreds of 1000 people who were killed here in yemen. why do we want to sell it? we got the rockets on our heads. so you're talking, you don't talk about that. you don't, you talk about the torturing. you talk about the problems that happened. yes. these things we will investigate. but again, we need investigation on the killing of hundreds of thousands of people and you should come to santa, i know you're and the us. how are you talking about report has demanded that as well. thank you, mr. sheriff sheriff, thanks for being on complex own. thank you. thank you. thank you. and we'll see you
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