the announcement in the maybe have been next. we'll have more than that in a moment. but 1st, let's take a closer look at the background to this dark chapter and that germany's previous position on the massacre. this small plotkin berlin's note in district remains the only visible memorial in germany of the violence committed in namibia. now, foreign minister hi, co mass has announced germany, we'll finally recognize the atrocities as genocide. 1.1000000000 euros will be given to support development in namibia focused on herrera and nama communities. between 19041908 german imperial forces, and what was then known as german south. west africa violently suppressed uprisings by the nama and herrera ethnic groups, and forced them into the, does it tens of thousands of herrera and nama was shot, starved, and tortured to death by german troops. it is estimated that 3 quarters of the herrera and half of the nama people were wiped out. it took an entire century for

a german politician to even recognize it happened. i asked you to give us our trespass, trespassers and our guilt. but the german government of the time back to peddled, saying the minister had spoken as a private pass and herrera and nama groups have consistently demanded an official apology and financial reparations from the german government. for what historians consider the 20th centuries 1st, genocide, germany has insisted on negotiating a reconciliation deal with the namibian government. not the victims descendant germany is just beginning to reckon with colonial passenger, but this reconciliation deal is one step in that direction. for more of the story, we can speak to who crush poland sees a german politician, a member of the christian democratic union party,

and she is the official representative of the german government in the dialogue on the genocide of the herero. a number of people in there may be a mister, poland, thank you very much for joining us. we saw that the german foreign minister, high call master said this is a step in the right direction. but i want to ask you about what we've seen from representatives of the herero, and now i'm a community today. they have said, this is a p r stunt by germany. what do you say to that? first of all, i would say that then that maybe in all be represented by the government, which they are electing and be elected. there are no elected leader of barrier. and now my, there are many traditional chiefs, other persons who can speak for some of the radio. and i'm, and i'm pretty sure that in the end the result be achieved will be accepted in abroad on a broad basis. so we can look forward to have

a really conciliation reader. we continue to process this between both our societies. but mr. poland, for you're saying here is that you've essentially the german government has essentially negotiated with them, maybe in government on behalf of these communities. but these communities themselves said they were not involved enough in these negotiations. so who is this reconciliation for? i don't think i don't think so that this is the correct description that my, my median counterpart now is an hero and a very better respected person amongst irell communities and in italy, geisha. they're rare. and now my people presence in preparation of them may be in position, also have a arrow, and bam are included in the committee and in the political committee and the medium size. so from the beginning also that i'm going to litigation included to nama. and of course, it is, it has to be negotiations between 2 governments,

because if you look at the declaration, the project we want to implement can only be implemented with the consent of the governments. and of course, on the other hand, we cannot, we cannot say to the median government, you have to put this and this, and this person into your delegation. this will be actually a colonial approach to do so. okay. mr. poland, a question on this aid going forward, we know that the german government wants to provide more than 1000000000 euros of aid. that would also a, these communities in particular. what about the question of reparations? that is something that representatives of these communities are looking for something germany is said is not part of the steel. why is that? how do you see this? it is also a, i think there is some kind of misunderstanding. we have always that we are trying

to fulfill our political moral obligation. it's not the legal question. this has been again the outcome in, in new york, been local and other try to make it to the question. even in the 2nd round, they get, they did not get an approval from an american court. so be not negotiate legal question as we talked about political and moral obligations. ok. and this is a different and therefore we, i'm not speaking about in legal terms about reparations. we speak of a lot of money. you have mentioned the whole amount about 31100000000 euros. and it is to heal the wounds. i say ok, if you're talking about political and moral responsibility, what about the question of restitution? returning looted, human remains that still are in germany. he'll be half

off in between. and during the negotiations i would say very dignified and very successful, so to speak. return of human remains some 2 years ago with the help of both trucks and media and in germany the return before they're not so let's say so carefully prepared and be violated some, some feelings in the media unfortunately. but in the last, the last time, i think it was a very dignified and, and put into a promotional process. and yes, there are still human remains in germany and rebuild be ready. and we are ready to return them as well, in a way that we are,

the human remains of them you get people will have to leave it there. go past colon from the c d u party here in germany, the official representative of the german government and dialogue with namibia. thank you. thank you. let's get around it. now. some other headlines, the pope has taken the unusual step of ordering an official inquiry into the handling of sex abuse claims within the cologne archdiocese. cardinal dyna, maria he has accused, has been it was accused of covering up sex abuse allegations and blocking in earlier inquiry. the accusation triggers widespread criticism of key and the catholic church. germany, president, i just, i, my a has an else he wants to run for a 2nd term. di maya has held the roles since 2017. germany will elect a new president in may next year during as many trips abroad as well as here in germany di my has repeatedly warned against the rise of extremism. germany's parliament is expected to pass a law this summer that requires

a quota for women on executive boards that the country's largest company boards with more than 3 members will have to include at least one woman. the countries governing coalition reached an agreement that paved the way for the new legislation . tens of thousands of people are leaving the city of goma and the democratic republic of congo authorities are warning that a nearby volcano could erupt again at any time. not yet gone. go is in the east close to the border with were wanda lava almost reached to go my interruption last weekend. the authority fear a repeat could be much more serious. a quick escape seems all but impossible. the roads leading out of coma are jammed with traffic. tens of thousands of residents are trying to flee many by cars. because mountain you're going to go could erupt again at any time. for the 2 main thing right now is to get my family to safety. we don't know what can happen with the

volcano. we can feel a lot of rumblings people are being told to leave the city of coma. otherwise many will die clo food mattresses, the residence of the north region, and the democratic republic of congo, rushed to pack their most necessary belongings. many are headed to neighboring rwanda. those who don't have a car mix away up on foot or try to escape by boat. but the port is also these orphan children are among the lucky ones to make it out. mountaineer don't go is considered one of the world's most dangerous volcanoes, the erupt and last saturday claimed at least 32 life experts. one, the same could be much worse this year, so called eliminate eruption because mother the area was carbon dioxide and kill 1000. the international civil aviation organisation is launching an

investigation. after bella ruth forced to play the land and arrested a dissident journalist. the probable, examine whether any international laws were broken. the incident has already trigger deviation sanction from the e. u and leaders are now setting their sites on key areas of the bella with economy, including oil and chemical exports. yeah, they want to be heard all over the you, these pro democracy activists have started this protest outside of the commissions office in warsaw jamar collision conversion. and we demand that sanctions against the lucas shinkel regime are introduced. we do not just want any sanctions. we want tough economic sanctions at the quite near, also the some cigarettes at the foreign ministers meeting in lisbon. this is exactly what they were discussing. the eu has already banned about racine airlines

from the skies. next up on the agenda. economic sanctions. this action we've seen from lucas shinkel in bella. ruth had a terrorist character. it was so unacceptable that we're not ruling anything out session. we're discussing who should be added to the sanctions. let what's listed that could include companies like this potassium, fertilizer factory. last august, workers went on to process lucas and after you claimed a 6 term in office following you disputed election money from state enterprises like this is crucial to the regime survival. the hopes that sanctioning memo hit the regime heart, but as you was taking a tougher stance on bell of ruth, tensions with russia are also increasing. both countries for decades have been linked by a political tact since a crisis broke out, moscow has increased its backing for its allies. we know we have not dumpster but

we insist that the west stopped demonizing those. it doesn't like the bella ruffian authorities. immediately after the incident announced that they were ready to conduct a transparent and open investigation list. you calculate the more asleep when you this crisis is playing out on the use eastern frontiers on beller. is this border with lithuania journalists gather to protest on behalf of their jail colleagues, the fate of rum on part of it, and other reporters like him has become the latest flashpoint in europe. the relationship with its autocratic neighbors, the cease fire between israel and palestinian militants. has been in place for just over a week now. but the recent flare up of violence in gaza also stoke tensions in israeli cities where jewish and arab israelis live side by side. such communities have existed for decades,

some more peacefully than others. but the last weeks have seen jewish and arab neighbors turn on each other in some places in the town of load residence are now trying to pick up the pieces. while the flames made their way quickly through this tire shop on the outskirts of loot. smith, where he is still in shock, his father's family business of 30 years destroyed and just one night has shown lawyer. i feel a sense of loss being lost and we thank god we have our faith and we believe that god will restore our rights. and we hope that all will be rebuilt. it will be a period that will pass or follow up and had more. angela, the flames didn't stop at his store. they also burned down a computer repair shop next door belonging to the father of us. but now the young jewish israeli video developer had spend a whole year creating a new stage of game. now it's all gone. both respect the shop was targeted by

extremists from outside the city, but there is no evidence to before the riots. some young people came and looked around, checking out which businesses are jewish and which are arabic and leaky these. and for me personally, it reminded me of terrible times in our jewish history. was that quote, it hurts. it really hurts to see so much fire and hatred. suburban machine was both a resident of a town in the center of is valid, which has seen some of the worst violence in decades between jewish, israeli, and our of is really the violence about that. not just a minute, but also in many other like cities in israel, protests but also parent revenge attacks by arab and jewish mops. fueled by long standing issues, but also recent tensions over jerusalem. israeli police responded forcefully for

ultimate for he did. and you know, there's only one way forward. there are in it together through a crowd funding campaign to hope to rebuild their livelihoods. but the vari remains in the name. yes, we're scared. i worry the jewish extremists are looking for me and will tag me as someone who cooperates with arrows as if that's a wrong thing to do. who lima beans is a q and ask met is also worried that he'll be singled up by his community. but enough is enough, we need to say what we think and not be scared. we don't know, we have a choice. we should get that much. of course we also had the future looks uncertain here and across the country, violence within communities. and israel has lived everyone in shock more headlines now. a russian news agency says the kremlin is calling the u. s. decision not to rejoin the open skies treaty a political mistake. the pac allows on the arm to surveillance flights over member countries. the biden administration says russia security violations have undermined

a group of 8 hong kong activists have been handed new prison terms for their role in pro democracy protest in 2019. they include jail, media, mobile, jimmy ly, who was sentenced to another, came months behind bars and sports where giant nike says it parted ways with soccer superstore name our last year over his refusal to cooperate in a sexual assault investigation. nike had been looking into claims by an employee that name or had assaulted her in 2016. originally, nike had given no reason for ending ties with the player. japan has extended a corona virus state of emergency in tokyo, and other areas to june 20th. that is about a month before the expected opening ceremony of the tokyo olympics, japan, seen a record number of cobra, 1900 patients in critical condition and recent days, even as the number of new infections has flowed,

it is feared that lifting the state of emergency would cost a rebound in infection? and let's speak now to michael pen, a journalist in tokyo. hi michael. as we heard there, the government has just extended the state of emergency and the prime minister, jo shahita. so who has been speaking? can you tell us what he's been saying? while he's been announcing the, the extension of the coven emergency for a, for the 3 weeks. this one is one of the more, say the policies associated with it are stronger than the previous emergency which was in january. so it's having a lot of effect on businesses, especially those with char night life businesses. so i think he's asking for the patience of the people and their endurance to go through this for a little bit longer. and michael, how bad is the corporate 900 situation there at the moment? well, if you look at the past 2 or 3 weeks,

basically this is as bad as it's ever been in japan. in terms of the number of cases of people getting the disease and number of people dying. this time it's been driven by the kent variance or the u. k. varied amount of transmission is much faster. so it's been a pretty bad time in japan. although it does seem that the new case numbers are now starting to slow down. there have been, as we heard growing calls from the public also from the medical community to cancel the olympic games because of concerns of recovered 19. will the government actually pressured the olympic committee to cancel? no, they will not. the government has been going along with the i o. c, on this, the international, the committee basically the way it's working out is that you have on the one side of the international committee and the government very strongly determined to hold

the olympics, no matter what happens. and on the other side is the vast majority of the japanese people who are very upset. and to think that this elective could become a, a super spreader event. that, that makes the cova crisis much worse. journalist michael pen speaking to us from tokyo, thank you very much for your insights. thank you. now lesbian, women, that gay men and other sexual minorities, face discrimination and violence in many countries in africa. one of the most dangerous places to live for such groups. if you got up, there are people and same sex relationships can be sent to prison for 10 years. we report now from the capital compiler on a photographer who has made it their mission to document the lives of the l g. b t q community across the continent. it's a small, private photo shoot it. they love a quick on this home income parlor. today's work is part of deliveries,

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coming up next, our debate show to the point our guest discuss bella was the diversion of a commercial plane and russia influence. stay tuned for that. ah . the news, the news? news news the

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correct rulers and dictatorship and hope for more security. more freedom and more dignity have their hopes been fulfilled. 10 years after the error of spring, rebellion starts june 7th on d. w an attack democracy in the tech on freedom of expression and an attack only european sovereignty. this how your opinion leaders have been describing state organized hijacking over ryan asked why it's between 2 member countries. after bella rational, florida falls cross to land in minced activist and journalists, roman protests of h was a bundled away fears for his life. so how should you respond and what is valuable? role this apparently, the reason piracy on to the point we ask,

are shank oh oldest kidnapping. that is pulling the strings. the thanks very much indeed for joining us here on to the point to my guest here in the studio. oh, good. are in dover. political scientists from bella rose. her opinion is the bella . russians should not be punished with sanctions and locked inside bell roofs without connection to her. also where this is daria suca choke editor with the russian east, west tv in berlin. she thinks putin is still pulling the strings of luca shank. oh, if she wants any kind of democratic change in bella ross, we have to talk to bruton. we're welcome to to alexandra fun w's brussels bureau chief. she said sanctions against federal rule will be useless. if the you doesn't

formulate a strategy that takes the role of russia into account as well. yeah, thank you very much. indeed, a great input that to begin with. and i'd like to go to august 1st and just ask you, olga, is it fair to say that for anybody who wants to see peace and democracy in bella ross in the near future? this has been a house. i put a disturbing few days. well, definitely for me, it was, i would say more shocking is distorting. i mean, we know that beller is, is a long last to not talk. chris, in the whole things that we have been observing in dollars since august 2020 these things are shocking themselves. but what happened on the weekend? it's just an in like the fenton v to imagine, to be able to imagine something like that. so it's really, i think it was a very emotional action, emotional decision and, well,

when we think about the consequences that the political and economic consequences of this tap, it's really not adequate for me. so i was really surprised that was shock. yeah. and am i right in saying that what we have seen, in fact, is a bullying to journalists, a direct and very, and very dark warning to journalists, the critics of the regime endanger. i would say really not only eternally but everybody who is now who thought to be safe abroad, like the whole positional leaders and people working with them. and people also present. and he and germany like i was in the hospital, for example, activists who speak up for bella was of course, they afraid also for their lives now because they did not feel been self safe. also within the european, you know what you mean different before before this story. okay, let's go to alexander phenomena in brussels. you have alex under for many as follow developments in bella rosen, ukraine, and in, in moscow very, very closely. so what do you make of this apparent state sponsored hijacking that

we have witnessed? well, i think that it was certainly an unprecedented incident. and i think that it's going to change it to change the approach of the european union. and we saw it the reactions, european leaders who were shocked and outraged. and they were describing the incident as estates console, terrorism, piracy. but they were also very concerned because as they put it, the lives all thought you citizens were at risk. we talking here about hydra king of our diversion of a plane that was on its way from 1 pm european capital to the over. so i think this is something that the european union now has to deal with. and it's an incident that is probably going to put a lot of pressure on brussels to,

to do more. okay. what do you say to that, that reaction in brussels outrage fury? is he going to choose the suggestion that it is perhaps again change, or is it going to be a game changer? while a little vague, a thing that it has at least begun to be a game changer? i mean, there reaction was quite as far as it was also surprisingly fast for me, fast, hard and quite emotional and we can understand. and we just heard one of the reasons for that, which is actually what is different now. when we compare dissertation before the weekend after, it's not only about democracy and human rights outside of the anymore, right. so it's about also the security of the european citizens. and i think it was one of the, one of the main reasons why the decision was made that fast within just few hours, these hard decision that misses $200.00 sco was kind of claiming for half a year old asking to you for, for, for half a year also hard sanctions,

if they really come this pro, sex economic sanctions, we've been talking about for half the already. and now this fine, this story happens and there's hardly up on the agenda. so it's really a different level of, of danger for the european union starts only i say only of course it's important democracy in human rights, but outside of the u. and when we have citizens within the u that put a put under danger by the delivery. and the storage is it's another level of also decisions and of political moment. for example, just let's come back here in just what, what if it's, if this is a game changer that has been a tectonic shifted the approach towards bella ross, what, what, how is that likely to manifest itself in the weeks and months that lie ahead? well, 1st of all, what was just said as, as, as right,

that the decision was made very, very quickly. and it is very surprising. we just have to keep in mind that we had to be crisis and the attempts by the european union to issue a joint statement. one of those was the israel got a crisis and then china crick down on opposition and hong kong and in those very important foreign policy measures. foreign policy matters. while the, the repeating union was not able to find a common position to issue a common statement because one member state blocked those decisions. and now here within a few hours, you have a strong response. you have concrete measures that were agreed on like this. this ban of blending by the state of lucy and state own carrier, the lobby, for example. then the announcement of sanctions. and we are upon the talking here not only about targeted sanctions against individuals or companies,

but we are apparently also talking about sanctions against whole industry sectors. so it really appears that the european union, at least at the moment, is united and determined to punish lucas shinkel and he's a regime and also to make clear that they are not going to tolerate such incidents in the future. that's bringing diarrhea, diarrhea into the the kremlin denies involvement and sundays operation. but a lot of experts say that president putin would have known about the hijacking incidence. and what's your take on that? very important question. did he know what did he not know? i think we're never going to know for sure if she personally said yes to this landing of a plane, or if he was somehow talking to a question on the days before. and they've agreed that this is the way they're going to for to savage. however, i think that it is not very important for us in europe to know where the pushing

was personally involved with this particular answered the incident in the men's care port on may 23rd. what is important is the put in is the biggest supporter of location and he is giving him money. rush and water is essentially the only open water that still remains for bella. ruth, there is a lot of interaction between the 2 governments and put in essentially is the one pulling the strings of location location, quite well known for acting on his own, which is not exactly completely control by putting that would not be true. morse. however, i do think that if europe on some kind of democratic change in bellows, they have to take and count the position of russian and talked to russia as well. yeah. and when we talk about the significance of russian, the significance of letting me polluted, it has been suggested that what we're actually experiencing is another exchange of

fire in a, in a long, slowly escalating proxy war between, between uminski on one side and, and must go on one side and the european union on the other side is that too far fetched? well, it's a good question. i mean, there is an interesting point of view that this particular act of aggression called the landing of the writer plane, is his way of burning the bridges with the european union. and thus kind of closing up to put in and showing that you really are my last supporter, i really have to depend on you 100 percent right now. on the other hand, it is well known to put in is not a fan of luca. shanker, personally, their personal relationship is not great. luca shanker also doesn't really like, wouldn't that much and you could even see it in the way. the dissertation belarus was initially covered by the russian state media like russia today, when it all just started. now it's very prohibition called bottom, the beginning there were of and somehow sympathetic for the protesters the 1st few

days is quickly changed. however, it is. however, what we can also look at is the treatment of the russian citizen location. because girlfriend's, if he is a big guy who is detained in bellows, and we do not really see many attempts of the russian positions to try to free her, maria is a horrible the spokesperson of the russian foreign ministry said that the russian consul in minsk has talked to her, but that was all she said they didn't say, oh, we're working hard to free her. she's innocent. none of that. so there must have been some kind of coordination thing. most men's can moscow in this particular case . we will probably never know the extent of it. ok, let's go back to robot processes which and find out what his young political korea tells us about the current generation of protesters and the mood in bella ross itself solidarity with them for to savage. the 26 year old co founded

the telegram channel next to where he reported on demonstrations arrest and violence, and by the us, he is now living. next, i'll do a back in his homeland. he was wanted on charges including and fighting protest against because shank oh last sunday i ryan airplane traveling between 2 countries was supposed to land at the via by the russian military jet, under the pretext of a bomb scare. savage under girlfriend were arrested immediately. 3 other passengers who voted the plane and office did not arrive at the destination . and with the way they were, according to ryan s. c o michael o'leary ballard, russian secret service k tv agents, video of partition it has since been released in it. he states that he is being treated fairly by the authorities. you as however,

believe it was obtained by force is a part of the average affair likely to explode. how explosive is the situation surrounding ruben? prophecy which was quite frightening. i mean, it was to have death penalty in beller, bella versus the only european country with the penalties to practice and practice literally every year. and he could face up to 15 years whenever, know how the situation develops. i mean, in the worst case, i really hope it doesn't happen, but this dangerous still talks about is a very genuine shocking possibility. yes. but once again, he's, i mean, the death penalty cases. we see it every year in bella is that it's really about the, the nature of the autocratic state and it was never abolished in dollars that the problem he's actually been official. listen, is a terrorist sent out ever since something really different,

just to be an oppositional leader or human rights defendant, or to be perceptive that a terrorist, it's an interesting mixture, journalist blogger, opposition, journalist activities to view. so we'll dissident, he's been described. how much does he does he represent his generation? still a very young. he's 26 years old. oh well, yes he is young, but i mean the role that's not he personally. i mean, he, there was a group of people who were in charge of this kilogram channel nectar. it was crucial for organized. and that proved us. and valerie last year was not the reason for the poorest. but the managed through telegram channels through social media to organize people to mobilize then, and we thought hundreds of thousands people on the to. so it was, it's not about his personality. it was real political danger for question. and then, but when you mentioned his personality, there is i, you know, i read constantly, that there is

a very personal element to the animosity between the blogger and the president. well, i don't know that i can only think that it could be true. i mean, look at what is a person who, who never forgets his plans, and he's the bench oriented person in the course of this. what cannot exclude this a college factor. but once again, it was a real political danger better than such. it's not only about some personalities, it's about organizing revolution, invalid $11.00 of the organizes or protests, physical or physical organizing that prove to the people which are ready to prove that they had to prove his mood. but they managed to do it through social media and i think it's of course it's also interesting for security forces just to get the information out to him how it really happened. why, why it was successful? i think they have the.