been ongoing quest for the early spring began in 2011 people stood up against correct rulers and dictatorship and hope for more security. more freedom and more dignity have their hopes been fulfilled. 10 years after the era spring, a rebellion starts june 7th on d. w ah, this is d, w and hughes, and these are our top stories. police in hong kong have arrested a pro democracy activists on the 32nd anniversary of china. t elements square crackdown. joe hung. tom usually leads a large vigil for the victims of the violent events. chinese authorities are trying to prevent any commemoration of the 1989 crack down across the mainland and in hong

kong. israel benjamin netanyahu is fighting back against a diverse coalition seeking to end his 12 year rule. the incumbent prime minister is battling to undo the lions before it can formally take power. a process that will likely go well into next week. the russian police have released a well known opposition politician from custody after holding him for 2 days. demetrius good cove detention came as authorities cracked down on descent ahead of september parliamentary elections in which good cub aspired to run. the police said he was jailed as part of a prose into financial issues. this is d. w. news from berlin. there's more on our website, d, w dot com the whole

israel is a cause for a new government, centrist. yeah. and a paid has somehow managed to weave together a coalition of extremes. that includes an arab israeli contingent for the 1st time and the proposed ultra nationalist prime minister that's tardy. bennett, all they have to do now is get israel's parliament to ratify the deal before benjamin netanyahu can record. i'm so gale in berlin and this is the day the i think that the political situation has been deadlock long. we have to try something new. i think to be the ones who run this country because it is a jewish day and we need to have a religious jewish leader for the best interest of the jewish people at heart. they seem to have been able to get rid of venus over. that's not enough reason to make

a government. israel is not entering yes, a new era. there is still at what because even the philippines and bennett will manage to format a new government. it will be very fragile. the game was not over yet. also on the day troops and tanks opened firemen student protests in china is gentlemen square on this day in 198930 years. the only place able to commemorate those deadly events within china was hong kong. but that vigil was band last year. and this as beijing's cracked down on descent continues. today you may meet someone who is bad as attacks rolled and we hear from disappointed voices within hong kong . we are in the darkness we are like in a tunnel. but if everyone still come up with a candle, that the spirit that we are looking for, i believe in the people hong kong we live in truth, make sure that the hong kong people know that we never give up. even though maybe

we have to go to jail the welcome to the day. so israel is starting a starting a period that could be mocking the end. or indeed, the start of a new in one in which the country will no longer be led by prime minister benjamin netanyahu, whose 12 year old looks like ending after he failed to form a government after the countries for the i'm actually 2 years, the job fell to centrist jala, pete, and then the paid has pulled together an anti netanyahu coalition of 8 political parties. and factions that will include israeli arabs in government for the 1st time. and will be led by a man even more hawkish and further to the right and the nathan yahoo! so who is natalie bennett? this is the man who might meet israel for the next 2 years. natalie bennett has made his political career with provocative statements that established himself to the right of outgoing pm benjamin netanyahu. this is him last year. she

a bowl long enough show. we will not allow the israeli government to recognize a palestinian state under any circumstances. we will not allow israel to hand over even a centimeter of land to the arabs. this is what we are here for. to guard the land of israel. should tell me the thing. but bennet is also a generation younger than that. yahoo has broken with allies on the religious right on the role of religion in public life. he's also comparatively liberal and gay rights and other issues. bennett is the son of american immigrants to israel. he made a fortune in high tech before jumping into politics in 2013, revamping the right wing settler party jewish home model. he served as secretary of defense, and secretary of education under netanyahu. bennett would bring very little public support to the role in 2019 elections. has the amino party received no mandates and

in the most recent round one just 7 out of the 120 seats in the connecticut. i think it's a bit of a disgrace that someone who is elected with only 7 mandate is the person who decides the fate of the country. i think that is good for isn't. although i'm from the left side. i believe that the new prime minister will unite israel because it is now divided into many pieces and we need the change. bennett has promised to work for all israelis, not just his supporters and then shallow because of the lucky government like this will succeed only if we work together as a group, not i, we are not, we will bring back. so we was his real secret weapon, the day of its foundation call on the fly bought with them or not. the kindness, lemon, shallow bennett, would have his hands for guiding a coalition that spends the entire political spectrum. and israel would have its

1st taste of the post. now who era for as long as it left was quite bad yet. so let's take a closer look at how all the pieces might change with that d. w. nice commentator shani result as welcome shani again to the specifics of the coalition and it's digging into india in effect 1st. i think it's important to establish that even though. yeah, le pete has got his 8 parties lined up. benjamin netanyahu still has time to wreck the steel true. he's got now 1011 days before the new coalition is being presented to the parliament, to the israeli class. and they need to give their vote of confidence in this new makes it over coalition. in the $1011.00 days, we will be in it. now we already see that switching, very strong to find any defectors push any, you know, and splinters try to speed. because what happened is that we see people from the right spectrum of the map for the 1st time breaking to the left,

joining the central and the left all parties. and by that being able to unseat him . and he's trying to use their public, their voter against them saying you are right. when people you cannot the fact and make you feel push strong enough for the next 1011 days, who manage. okay. and this, this fish news has been out of that. not for about 24 hours. is it too early to, to form a view on how people are looking at this, this grouping, but haven't really got a mandate to do anything? well, it's very clear and it falls along the divides of the same lines of the divide, these really sorry for the last 2 years, at least. if not longer, are you prone to tell you, how are you against that? and now this is also what brings all the parties together. if you are a person who voted to any of these, a parties who wanted to see nathan yell out, you're happy. you see, there's a political miracle creative meet, you know, you know, talking about the highest level of political craft and, you know,

that's the one side. and if you're an attorney person, of course, did you see it as the biggest betrayal ever, you know, made in the history of political makeshift and israel. so here we have a propos, government led by nestali banners, and we heard and the report he's, he's hard line view on the palestinian homeland and he's writing settlements. he's going to lead a government with arabs in it right for the 1st time. so does this mean that these big existential issues get pocked, or are we going to see sparks to keep it short? yes, they're not going to deal with any of these issues. nothing concerning the political international arena and what happens to the palestinians? what even happened? even even many issues concerning the, our population in the, in israel, what they're trying to focus on is a civil socialist, economic, you know, focus, this is what they want to work on, you know, the post corona recovery. also the past, you know, we've seen israel just recovering from, from the gods operation that,

that tour at part the society and the connections with the society. so their focus is civil. anything else going to be frozen for the next couple of years? yes. so we, so my jobs in the economy, i just keeping the whole thing, all the people in the move, you know, the simplest common denominator that can bring all these a parties together. so that will be the focus, all the divisive issues. anybody is looking for a long term solution and we're talking about the peace process and so on. not coming anytime soon was replacing and i think i've mentioned a couple of times in passing the fact that this is a nice way the government will include arabs. right. this is, this is melissa, shoot hughes. and you know, the 1st person to thank for this historic moment is nathan. yeah. himself, because he was trying to strap scrambling last years and you know, to find himself a majority and last 4 sessions of election. he but while fighting to get the majority was the 1st one to initiate turning to the air parties. he legitimated me,

you know, make, gave them the, the kusha sign that they are legitimate partners in israeli coalition building. and he's actually been talking to them up until a few hours ago as they confessed to say. so once he made them legitimate partners and less than the center was always very afraid to become too lefty. if they join forces with the arabs, they realize ok, then we can do that too. so. so tell us about this, this are a posse rom. who are they? what are they until there are any slums party, the very conservative for their religious party. and this is actually very interesting combination we have here because right next to them on the left we have a party headed by a it gave men and this party, the party which is really would normally pair up. the arabs with the left is but in this case this is an extreme, some extreme within islam, a conservative party. it's a religious party. they are very much one of the most important thing for them was making sure status quo remains when it comes to the eligibility. q community in

israel, no changes, no rights that are officially given to them, for example. so any way this also connect bennett who comes from a conservative background, a religious background. so we find different parties within this coalition that match on different levels on many different issues. it's a very interesting combination and configuration that might lead to a complete causal disaster or an unbelievable success because this is the thing about the whole thing if i so finally balance is either a disaster or, or it's a miracle. when you look at rom itself, on the one hand, it's a miracle. they are now in government. so other heroes to palestinians, or are they sell outs? what we need to make sure that we make a differentiation between palestinians outside of israeli territory and the israeli arab palestinians, which they are, which are represented indic method. and our citizens for citizens is right. and what they are thing themselves rom. these issues,

the passing issue is the national issues. we are not dealing with that we were talking about some of the things that willing to go into decrees. that is one of that we're not dealing with. that our goal, as we've seen now, will be in the clash is within israeli mix. it is used to, you know, give contribution to the israeli, our community give, make sure they get resources, make sure they get support and only then may be in whenever the government will finish its term. god knows when that will happen. we will re emerge as the national policy and we will be aligned basically with national policy movement. but for now that's not our top priority. people outside israel are going to be hugely intrigued by the man who has done this, who has brought this desperate political entity into, into being paid. and having achieved this remarkable fate, he's agreed to wait 2 years to become prime minister. so what role will you plan to en? well, especially he's going to be a foreign minister and deputy prime minister,

but there's no doubt in the way they're building this coalition, that there is a veto up, you know, option for him. there's not going to be any major changes made about him agreeing him as, as, as a representative of the whole central left you know, block. so i think it's going to be very dominant, very prominent, definitely behind the scenes, if not in the front. and he's done an amazing transformation. he, when he made it into politics, he was jealous for an actor. never mind, no. took him so seriously. and what he's done very consistently in the last 2 or 3 years is building himself up to that and showing for many voters as we can see, that he has what it takes to become a prime minister against almost thank you so much for joining us and explaining all that to to still be released compensated shawnee results i pressure around 40 years ago, the world received 1st reports of

a deadly condition that would become known as aids. decades of knowledge gathered by age researches helped create some of the vaccines currently find me. corona virus, not with cove in 1900 vaccination, gaining speed as a renewed post to beat aids and the deadly h i. v virus that causes it the scientists were able to develop effective vaccines within months of the outbreak of the corona virus pandemic. for 2 reasons. firstly developed countries poured billions into vaccine development in record time. and secondly, scientists were able to build on decades of aids and cancer research, the m r n. a vaccines developed by madonna. and by and take a proof of that. the idea behind these genetic vaccines is that people are injected with a blueprint for a particular element of the virus. and the case of the corona virus. this is known as the spike protein. the process means the body starts producing these proteins

itself. the immune system then recognizes that it's coming under attack and starts to fight back. no vaccine has been found against aids, which weakens the immune system because h i, viruses mutate so quickly. they also attack the immune system directly, which means the body is unable to fight back. but the doctor and experimental results gained during research into corona virus. vaccines have also given the search for an aids vaccine, a terrific boost scientists have been able to obtain a lot of new data in a short time. the 1st positive results are already being seen. madana is planning to begin to clinical trials of its m r n a h i v vaccine. by the end of this year i've been speaking with one of the world's leading h. i v researches and i asked professor william sheaf how m r n a technology has helped his quest for an h i. v vaccine. we've been collaborating with madonna for

several years, testing our strategies with r and a. and you can see from the coven vaccines, that the r n a. the vaccines are very mutagenic, and they can induce very strong anybody responses from the perspective of an h i. v vaccine. that's important, but also an h i. v vaccine we believe will be much more complicated than cobra vaccine. it's going to require multiple shopped in a sequence and learning how to give those and optimizing that vaccine sequence will require doing multiple human clinical trials. and m r n a will make that much more allow that to be done much more quickly. so we think it will greatly accelerate our ability to develop a, an h i v vaccine. because we look at the speed with which the covey about saying was, develops and what we've been looking for for h, i v for 20 nearly 30 years now. and it's, and it's not just that, that sheer complexity, as you said, millions of,

of little viruses. this is why it's taking so long. that is exactly right. so, you know, basically coded is essentially an easy vaccine to make. it's a virus is easy to protect against, even with the variance that are circulating compared to age i v, which is a monster, relatively speaking, rather, gonna take longer. the 30 years people in hong kong have been allowed to commemorate the 1989 gentlemen square student movement and killings in china. but this year and last officials of band the vigil . and yet another move to curtail civil liberties in the territory several weeks leading up to june. the 4th, the square had become a focal point for protest against economic hardship and corruption. students also gathered to demand democratic rights and freedoms from the communist government. but as the crisis continue, chinese lead a sent in change to crush the demonstrations. footage of alone, man,

confronting line of tanks has become one of the most enduring symbols of the crack . then no one knows exactly having people were killed. some say hundreds, others, thousands. well, many of the 1400000000 people in china today, especially those under 30 and raised on propaganda unpatriotic education. i've no idea that any of this happened. it had been up to hong kong to preserve the memory of the event and prevent beijing's complete erasure of history. but those who chose to do so now face danger. for over 3, that case, a sea of candle lights in hong kong, half kept the events of 1989, a life, the cities, elio vigil, a symbol of defiance, unthinkable on mainland china. now even heading out candles is heavily police weeks ahead of the 32nd anniversary. the automotive station, hong kong alliance, headed by jo hotel,

began promoting the new commemoration will be the same spacing of the national jewish law. here people are even more support to our se, but the support as last express that is actually going beyond just the remembrance on cameron is also goes to the heart of what hong kong, where do we still have the fight? i try to know whether we are still missing. we are, we can still piece of our pre freedom by our own action. also, we actually had to pay the people who are already arrest the hens. and last, the time the police have been to visual for the 2nd year in the role setting, the safety restrictions or the other monster things like 2 days before the anniversary, the alliance as june, the salt museum museum commemorating the events of 1989 was closed found due to a licensing investigation by the authorities. many of the organizations leading

members, i didn't, jo, protesting, including chairman. again, we spoke to the veteran actor this shortly before he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. we are in the darkness we are like in a tunnel, but if everyone to come up with a candle, that this spirit that we are looking for, i believe in the people hong kong we listen truth. make sure that the hong kong people know that we never give up, even though maybe we have to go to jail for the alliance. it's not just about commemorating the protests of 1989, but of i'd be able to do that to be able to call one and to one party rule for democracy protest now labeled as the 1st 5. they see, they could be a reason to outlaw the activism and the alliance itself. we are not south that there was no question, not the government one to replicate,

not insisting on some slogan, awesome. some principle. the risk is what we are doing. sincerely fighting for the end of one party dictatorship, there will always be that really kind of why just like, i wonder whether this happened. sure. now, or as it's a long way away, it depends on how hot recent research right work is at the alliance. as june, the soft museum have begun to serving the tenement square experts in digital formats. if china continues to close out all avenues or physical protests in hong kong, moving historical after those to an online museum may end up one of the last remaining ways of showing with systems. let's consider those events with dr. shower john. he was actively involved in student protests from 98521809. when he was the student that beijing university was also among one of the last groups to leave gentlemen square after the troops and tongues 5, it demonstrates is trying to block the military's advance. he joins us from exxon

in london. welcome to d, w. take us back then to 30 years, would you when, when students in, in china were protesting what we processing about, what did you want? basically a li, democracy and freedom of speech and the freedom of assembly of freedom association. that a very important that because i was on life life expiring and my parents and all i want parents generation, the sampler, so much 1000000 people were murdered, killed doing the chinese coming rule. that's very clear you formation. so i was in the reason we want to change the china during that time

. if you want to turn the system, we must practice freedom of the creation and pre pre and also pre i science the special organized, right, very important. that will happen. and just looking at the way that but china is run now, it seems extraordinary that it 1st b authorities seem to tolerate. the protests that they've begun in april lasted until june. that is the teacher and meal from the different people and the some to you boys in color in the see. but the actually during that time the china is inside the twenty's comes hockey. they have now to decide the base rule that the along the gold off the still the, the move and the mask, the movement,

the more people involved. the moment return is, comes part. he actually separated the 2 groups, one group way, the conservative group of the bomb the whole day is up. can you come to the party, funky bundle ideology? just create a new thing. but as our group ways, oh, well, monday, the group they think about it shouldn't be tend to time china, they should be tolerant. but the find them be the, the conservative you and the honda one group the they occupy on the thumbnail right with the chinese companies party and, and there you are that in chatham and square with your student friends. and then you see that the troops and the time starting to to open fire, what goes through your mind about point? so during that time a rhonda on shirt june 3rd,

10 o'clock in the evening i. i heard the sharp team and i heard the shooting. the, i mean, you try to trying to push to the tennis square. so i just ran to the basement. i mean you and tried to look but hyper and the night i, i sold the soldier, shoot through to citizens in move around the same kind of meet her can i see. i know is the even you are your people pretty feel the use these the why is the brutal crack it down so i just tried to run bank just can't miss the bank. i pretend to know what happened

during that time i, my classmate actually and also the new she d t p was the photo photo one. it was shot at the app. right. lack pe. he was killed in the early morning in june. false, false. yeah. well, thank you so much for joining us and telling us about your experiences dr. a show, john and that was the day as ever the conversation continues online. you'll find some twitter at w news. have a good day. the

news. the news. the news the news ah, to the point, strong opinion, clear positions, international perspectives, up to 80 percent of people in japan say that are opposed to the coming tokyo olympics among other problems that health risk i say is far too great. so our joint event like the olympics,

the thing of the i guess tends to stay on to the point shortly to the point the viewer forgotten about for a long time. at last, fabio grew and his colleague directing traffic again. and the media transforms into a real once more in 16. ah, the, we do want to see that putting our street, our water up here,

open your eyes to the unseen. that were new global 3000 theories. about the threats we are facing. the heroes taking the stands. it's not that important to make up until the global 3000 series starts june 21st on d w. me just weeks ago now to the beginning of the summer olympics in japan. preparations though, have been halted by the coven. 19 pandemic. and as many as 80 percent of the japanese say they want their lympics cold off. but the japanese government and the international olympic committee insists the huge events. we'll go ahead even if no foreign spectators and the athletes competing empty stadiums. many

a wondering what's the point and our giant sports events like the olympics, perhaps the thing of the past year on to the point we ask tokyo olympics games at any price. the news? well, thanks very much for joining us here on to the point to him, i guess in the studio all the much troubled daughter of ella sports reporter barbara moore, who say that for most athletes they simply know will turn it in to the olympics. is the game still go ahead? the world will fall apart. also witnesses, higher, zeppelin, and leading authority on the machine, nations that go on behind the scenes in the world of sport, not least in the world of doping. he says the i o c's main interest is to secure its 1000000000 dollar income by making sure that the games go ahead and

a very warm welcome to defend my cook, oak east asia, experts and former japan correspondent to argue, said the tokyo games might already look like a failure, but japan will make the best of a very challenging situation. thank you. sorry for being if it i thank you for those introductory comments. i'd like to begin with. you finish with the 1st question. how important to these olympic games for japan and the people of japan, they were meant to be a liberation from the shadow. of course, my, especially the younger generation today doesn't know so many events in japanese history at all. they only know about nuclear devastation and it's now me. and originally it was meant to clear up the japanese image and all this is no turning into a disaster, admittedly. but there is not much of turnitin now to clothing through and making these games with l. spectators work that is a dark vision as the days and weeks to come. faint, barbara,

how important to the games for the i o. c, the international olympic committee of the olympic committee. of course that has on high importance because lots of money is depending on these games. and then again, of course, for the athletes, it's extremely important because they have been training for years. many of these sports. they don't usually get the attention outside of the olympics that take canoeing or take tech one to all the smaller sports physic, phoenix, important for those athletes that they get the, the chance to compete in front of the world. so for you, there is no doubt that the game should go ahead. there is no doubt that they will go ahead for me actually, i don't think we are in a point in time of time where there is a chance to, to cancel them. and i do think in the eyes of the athletes, it's also important going, i was up, i will go, this is not the figure of 80 percent of the japanese population, apparently, against the games taking place. you know, what of the japanese authorities, the japanese organized since the games got right,

so fall. and what if they got wrong? how do we explain this figure of 80 percent? it's very clear that the damage iteration in japan is very, very boring. there is not enough vaccinations. most of the people are against his games because they think they are not at the right time taking place. know so they think they should be postponed. another time to 2022 from my point of view for good reasons. because as i said, the risk is very high in the moment, again should be again postponed to, to, to, to, to 22 will be traumatic. so the jumping these people one presumes. then the major downside would be they would land the same year as china. so it would look like a co hosted double the peaks by japan and china, and we know they are enemies. fascinating point. okay, well normally the idea is that the olympics can give a big boost to the host country promoting positive national pride in bringing people together. but as we see,

there are serious doubts over whether that is what is happening in japan. let's have a look at invitations are unusual for japan, but opposition to the olympic games and growing according to kohls, 80 percent of the japanese population are against them. how many people in the world have died from corona completely changed my mind. i feel sorry for the athletes. we're training so hard, but holding the limbic games in the panoramic. no, i want them cancelled. tokyo state of emergency has been extended until july 20th the vaccination rate is dillman. if you're not to mention warnings from doctors about variance. but corona virus is not the only reason for this opposition home. you can put on there for you. one big imperil and big games are being used to cover up the aftermath of the 2011 fukushima nuclear disaster. and to show the world that the problems there have been resolved. this is

a lie that we cannot tolerate. is the japanese government trying to hide its own shortcomings from just tell us a little bit more about overseas. it really a cover up on the part of the i've been trying to distract attention away from the doom and gloom of japanese society. the government, or is it a cover up that we're seeing here? it's not a conspiracy to cover. for christian sport, rent is just a p r move very big p r. move on the side of the form. a japanese prime minister who was seen japanese is the japanese image going down river quickly for so many reasons and want to change something about it. that's fair enough, but now it depends, emmy came and so this alone because overshadow shut up a 2nd. disaster 1964. just this is an important date. it was a time for japan to show after the 2nd world war that they back among the group of

civilized nations they could show their technologically advanced fishing content. high speed train made its 1st run from tokyo to osaka and record speed. no other train on the planet was as prospects then. everybody was in a good mood. and i think japan wanted to repeat this little miracle of recovery after starting 2nd world war and the pacific. now, after fukushima and everything went wrong because of course, do you think that there is any opportunity you seem to indicate this in your statements at the top of the show that the japanese people will come together and there will be a surge of enthusiasm and positive feeling around the, around the game, it is quite improbable that they will be alike. and susie asked the wave of the part for the, for the game. so the number is just tell us, it won't be that way, but i think the games will take place and they will take place in an

orderly fashion that at least will show that the japanese are able to organize something like this under a pen demik conditions a different message, but also a message. so gonna message is the games that traditionally been used to project the image shadow of a host country. the whole country has over itself. that's a perfectly legitimate thing to do. is it not? it is, but to be honest, it's about yesterday, it's about the olympic spirit, so called olympic spirit. it's not about a country. wherever athletes go, they want to compete, they want to win metals, they can do it at every place in the world. so i don't see any reason why we have to do that as if your wife was in japan, we can do it really. as i said, a year later it would work, but i know that's too much. boston drummond, president dawson, intentionally the committee doesn't want that because he think he cannot afford as his f anymore. and also the question of money is a christian of insurance, because if the games will be canceled by the i will see then maybe they will have

a loss of income at the very end. and that's, it's a question from my point of view. it's not about the athletes, it's not about them. but you have said the athletes are the means to an end. exactly. because i think it's about billions dollars euros to income, have caused by the t v, right contracts, but this one does have contracts. it is what counts was the i see when people say it's all about money, their right. to be honest. yes. barbara, i don't even disagree in this point. i just, i just also want to get the perspective of the athletes who have no alternatives to these games as to how it is. there is no, no equal competition. that gives them the same attention. so they depend on these olympics taking place. i totally agree that they could have been postponed one more time, but it's too late. now. i want you to talk about the athletes. these have you been talking personally to at least we have been following several athletes over the

past year. also making a documentary at the w about their path and i have just last weekend for example, happening, swimming with an athletes competing and tech 10. and he's of course, hoping so much that these competitions are going to take place because he has invested everything into going there. and when we talk about them as fairs again, so you have, you were insulting. and you were also in london, london, and it was my favorite game, sir. no, go into the london. he was going to just tell us about the atmosphere that the, the 2 difference narratives their game. so she and london. yeah. and re you have all them into reality. absolutely. it's the most is very different depending on the place of thinking. it's taking place in london what's, what's the great atmosphere? you could also actually the population has been very skeptical had of the games, but then when they, once they started, they have been

a great spirit. so many people from different places coming together and celebrating the athletes for she was far more reserved, i would say. and real was again, something else already struggling financially the country. you could also pull it notice a difference already between the world cup and the olympics. i would say from the atmosphere and still very open. once the game started, everybody was celebrated and to the, is there any sense of the people of japan actually believe in the gains because it's i use the word narrative. there it is. it's, it's something you have to believe in. and in recent years we have power politics. we've had corruption with our doping which, you know, has been investigated and that's been huge exposures. have people i have the people in japan lost their belief in a, in a major project of this kind. they were never really 2 answers. yes. think about that. it was charismatic. prime minister sions, or other, who made to japan won the game. now he's gone politically and of

course came a step. so it was a difficult sell to the japanese public to begin with. the situation is so different from 964 because japan doesn't have to prove anything, any more money. it's important, it's an aging society. suddenly costs play a role, especially as for pushing my aftermath is also very expensive and he shifted the energy trend transition. so i know the public was always reluctant, and now the mood has entirely turned against the games up and there was an age of innocence that implicated pretty $964.00. has that age of innocence. now perhaps disappeared forever. you've talked about these games possibly being postponed, or we may be seeing the end, you know, a whole story of the games that has, you know, taken decades over a 100 years. i'm not sure if you can talk about

a positive innocence. let's talk about the 36 olympics in germany until in the plan has been mis abused by a, by the nazis in order to show the whole road to germany, if so called a peaceful country, which it hasn't been the case as you know. so i think corporate gunner was always a problem for us, biggs, and it's still used and for example, she in 2014 was a very, very huge example for all you can make propaganda with the olympics. just have in mind that 2 weeks after such games, the crimea was, it was, would you say occupied by a bye bye bye bye bye put in. so you know what, what has happened in the time of your pre rep there preparing for the invasion just in the lympics. let's just be i can, i'm next. i'm sorry, i'm sorry. how could sports have stopped that? i mean, you're putting a lot of burden on sports. no. how can sports 6 all these problems you think germany would not have started 2nd world war?

russia will know that they didn't. we would have cancelled the olympic. i didn't freeze. i just. no, no, no, i'm not, i'm not saying that this was, this was, has any connection with the what i said to use the olympics in order to distract from political whatever consequences from political behavior that what's, what's happened ends up happening. 36, you know, jewish people haven't been out on the streets before the olympics. 36 after that fixed, but during the olympics, all his heinz on the streets where left for a gun and then later there have been there are again so and and so actually 2014 pages, 2008 in the time of the olympics. it was peaceful atmosphere, but what happened? it is a completely different story. maybe it's not about sports, stopping i regime, but it's the question of do we give them the states and the possibility for support forcing in the end? i think that's a critical question. ok. so moving on, just a little bit before the games in tokyo get on the way. there is of course,

the big kickoff in soccer's european championship on the 11th of june. another event was postponed for a year because of the coven pandemic. now, all the matches are taking place in existing stadiums from munich in southern germany via the russian city of saint petersburg to bar code, the capital of s or by john 4000 kilometers way. it's not clear how many spectators will be as each match, but there are concerns about so many phones being on the move around the continent . barbara, the euro. 2020 organizes have been working hard to create a positive buzz around the tournament. have they succeeded in doing so? i'm afraid i'm a bit more skeptic about the years even than about the olympics. first of all, i believe it's a big challenge to have this competition spread over so many different places. meaning that fans will always only gather it at one location. and now we also know

to the panoramic even that is going to be difficult. so i don't really expect like big celebration laurie this, this.