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open your eyes to the new group of 3000 series of threats. you're facing the heroes taking a stand to start until the $3000.00 theories start june 21st on d w i i this is dw news, and these are our top stories. hundreds of people have gathered in hong kong victoria park to mark the anniversary of the 1989 t enemy square massacre. the vigil took place despite attempts by chinese authorities to prevent any commiseration of the students uprising. police dispersed the crowds and arrested chow hung tongue, a prominent democracy,
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activists involved in organizing the vigil. me, japanese, most senior cleric has offered his resignation to pope frances unix, cardinal kind hard marks said he wanted to share responsibility for what he called the catastrophe of sexual abuse by catholic church officials. cardinal marks is expected to stay in office until a decision on his resignation has been reached. me. facebook is suspending former us president donald trump for the next 2 years. he was removed from the platform in january, following the storming of the u. s. capital of the consent that his post incited the violence from has called the move, an insult to the millions who voted for him. this is dw news from berlin. there's more on our website, d, w dot com. ah,
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oh, wor films are really a way for people to transmit a kind of history list almost every filmmaker. ultimately they want to make a war film. the ah, the feel of the trenches at a distance war on the silver screen. whether patriotic glorification or cautionary tale movies, shape or ideas about war, they tell stories of heroism and trauma wheelchair.
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where are the black soldiers on the cinematic battle field? and what rules do women play in war movies? we put the film genre in our crosshairs, 75 years after the end of world war 2. the me, most of us have never and hopefully will never go to war. our experience of battle comes from the movie. the war has fascinated filmmakers from the start. battle themes push the technical limits of movie making the over century of cinema. war movies have become more intense, more realistic and more violent the let up,
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but do they show us what war is really like? sam fuller, hollywood director and world war to veteran didn't think so. father, who was sometimes in a bad mood, would then say, if you really wanted to film war, you would have to actually fire real annual mission at the audience or over the head of the audience. one of the 1st great war films was milestone plastic. all quiet on the western front. it was the 1st popular movie to depict the floors of world war one and all quiet on the western front, of course, a groundbreaking work force, and it shows the ugly sense of war upon my particular, on the mass that's on the western front. steven, good side, the milestone was a declared passive, but even his movie makes war seem exciting. and so you need the machine gun and
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then in the reverse charge, you see the people that are being bogged down as though it was the camera itself. knowing the people down the can get out of this problem, which is to say that you have to stage the very drama that he's also trying to criticize the excitement of war cinemas taken to the extreme in 1917 director sam mendez depicts his grandfather's experience in world war one. as a grand adventure, the in deer hunter said half a century later in vietnam war is not a fun adventure. the infamous game of russian roulette may or may not be historically accurate. for director michael camino russian roulette is a metaphor for how combat, really, the main element of combat is weighted into a firefight usually is fierce unbelievably,
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saying and over in a very short time. and then you're either dead, you're a paraplegic, but you're alive. one of the 3, no, in between when steven spielberg recreated the world war to d day land things in saving private ryan. he made it as visceral and violent as anything in the or under the spielberg wanted to try to put the viewer exactly in the position of one of the infantry soldiers, you know, who had bought his body was essentially, you know, a target. the viewer can feel the fear, the, the excitement, the pressure, the terror, the nervousness, everything. there is no other way that an audience would get that much of
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a strong impression of exactly what it was like to be in that battle. it's very uncomfortable for the viewer on finance, who said at the same time id in an almost perverse way. it's fascinating and it is because it's like going on a ghost. right. and the guy that we experience something that we're not really experienced during the ghost, right? we know the masters aren't real and then the movie, you know, the wars in real. this is a supreme moment of invasion. in the end war cinema remains, entertainment or cinema is never war. are movie, memories of battle become more visceral and more violent, but we're still a long way from knowing what war is really like. oh
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they're both fascinating and horrifying films that are critical of war. ah, come in the morning victory. it's one of the most close lines from a war film, robert devolve clinical commentary and will kill go in apocalypse. now the shortly after he and his troops carry out the helicopter, type one is the village, accompanied by varden the ride of the balconies message of madness. the
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country was on, you could say that anti worked on a certain films would work, never be justified because i sign come via them in the contract in war films, doors may be justified, but they still do not say that war is beautiful or good. what's in the sand? they still show the horrors of war. he taught them off the 2nd side, the like the 2nd world war in the good. he doesn't precision and loyalty determined victory and defeat the director robert algebra. the ends justify the means that almost the nazi's early emanated the random learning center to 3 american prisoners almost single handedly. in real life, the united states had loss. remo, what most people call hill, called the dividing line between propaganda and
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patriotism between glorification and deterrence is very seen in many films. come out to fill out the american disaster and more and more still, makers in hollywood to take a plea, a stand against was fun. they were successful. all of the stone, one full oscars with platoon, that kind of film really be and to have a pass this message with all the closer. the problem with a pacifist war fil is that this is a contradiction in terms of the i think it's definitely possible to make war films in such a way that at the end of the film, people are filled with what classic tragedy called p t. and off we're shock and horror, but i think that only works by virtue of the narrative. you tell. strange story
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like the bridge is shut, audience is 15 years after the end of world war 2. with jim and society with an experience in economic miracle that displaced all the memories of killing and dawning book, ascension, that originally, that is especially suitable for young people. i mentioned that's because it's about young people and they can identify incredibly well with all these character. i love you, but this is also an excellent film, an incredibly well performed film. same as you start to use the speak. you don't even know young's young folder because you still have to get your pictures. i'm the only kinda saw the boys don't listen and come to regret. then, not only wanted to remember the 2nd mobile, he also have been in the midst of i'm him that william film that spoke out against the media. the armament just a couple of years after the west german army had founded his will indirectly,
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it also ask you questions about where the confrontation in the cold war was eating nothing, but it shouldn't be forgotten. and that the film was released in 196461 shortly before the cuban missile crisis, for which the 3rd world war almost broke out. the debate click, i'll skip off tenants malik is not interested in politics, but philosophy in the thin red line. he depicts the battle in the pacific and 942 from the perspective of nature. beautiful and disturbing. he seemed to be asking us, how can these things come exist? all the beauty and all the horror. films could hardly express that war, had no place on this planet. ah, many popular war movies were made in the usa. but how close does the hollywood
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version come to the real thing? ah, most images of american soldiers in war? one thing in common. all the soldiers are white, the african americans have fought in every american war. but black faces and battle have been almost entirely whitewashed for america's visual history. especially at the movies. john wayne is the epitome of the american g. i. from world war 2 to vietnam, hollywood has consistently shown the great white hero saving lore. but hollywood got its history wrong, in not getting the true story. in fact, the 1st american killed by the british at the boss, the massacre was a black man. i was
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a black man and addict christmas addicts was the 1st and long line of african americans who served and died for their country and shot him before you saw the fire all hell breaks loose in 2008 director spike lee told the story of the real life 92nd infantry division, so called buffalo soldiers, who fought in italy in world war to take them and leave. film wasn't the 1st to show black americans in combat. and in glory, dental washington, place a soldier in the 1st all black company in the civil war, films with african american soldiers, front and center, are still the exception. stripes on like pitts, unable most studios on. and most filmmakers had been white males. and they've been
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telling a white male story. but with the black lives matter movement, the calls tell other stories have gotten louder. has have the calls for america to reckon with its berry history. i think that black lives matter and all of that conversation now around social justice and historic reckoning is a really productive one. i think it's very, very educational. why were there not more stories about african americans put in the forefront? why were token representations ok, this is something that i think is reckoning that has to happen. and it's a good moment to begin it. telling the african american story changes, the heroic image of america seen in most war moving was to black soldiers who fought patches, them abroad, came home to a very different country than their white counterparts. the contest winner right was want to no problem. so we just looking for
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a wife, let us go back and try and they went back to my nigga who i serve as my damn bit schools. a hit was do step that you feed over there. you want me to eat. i love a trough in the backyard, like i'm some dam, pay me to shoot you. oh, i got down american me remembering that forgotten history can help white america understand where today's protests come from. me. the last time your city had a curfew was 943. you know what the reason was? a black the old or come back to more to get killed by a harley went crazy. so these right now scooby, i'm not to get to a, was the guys that were right, these uprisings don't come out of nowhere.
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the least new film shows african americans fighting and dying in vietnam while back home civil rights protest, rage, the america has been here before. one step to imagine a different future will be to put black faces back into america's war history. mm. ah, excuse. the women are rarely in the foreground, war movies wouldn't be complete without them. ah, the men interacting with men, men fighting men, men dying with because of men who can seem like an exclusively male affair. and war
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movies, especially where the women they appear rarely, often only in the form of a photo or a memory or the desires of those on the front lines like this scene from 917, a male soldier longings to his wife. they are something worth fighting for. what is the virtuous, you know, a family member whose photo is in the pocket of the soldier who he looks at away from the front depictions of the mother figure. like here in spielberg's saving private ryan silently suffering. she watches tragic news approaching. we see the fear in her eyes has another of her sons being taken from her. holland clicks for him, tell him, in war films are spectra and counterpoint to the men of another. this man is the
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middle gentle, vice and human human institutions. he won the emphasize the hardness and humanity of male behavior. my notice mentions highest and speaker, and he shook covered with his fences and then when chuckled to shall be the women symbolized goodness, hospital nurses healers. they sympathize and give comfort. they can also play the role of restoring men for the next battle. therefore keeping the war going picked and the women have on some level a very conservative function. they are the loyal wife and mother who stayed behind and wait for their husband to come back. they are the ones who keep the country and
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the family going. in the spielberg film, the mother is a strangely passive character. her grief is voiceless at time on screen, less than 10 minutes. she's already lost 3 sons to war. now her last son james, is to be sent home to minimize her anguish or bring you back. or i can't leave that where they're supposed to tell your mother . when they send her another folded american fly and tell her that when you found me, i was here and i was with the only brothers that i have left and there is no way i was going to desert the for the some camera rotary with his fellow soldiers trumps his mother's grief and some kinds of wool. sometimes a woman's role is symbolic, like when schofield meets a mother and child, something like mary and jesus figures. and i wanted to let
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the but as soon as the soldier least is apparently blessed, killing continues. fallen for women embody the costs of war and even in more films without passages undertone states and women are hardly presence in war, films, sexuality and especially homosexuality. a completely absent bodily contact happens only for the purpose of annihilation. women characters only rarely, central. mrs. minerva shows the suffering of civilians living through war. here, it's not a man who is the victim of battle, but the young woman, she dies in the arms of mrs. manda. very much an exception in this shondra.
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during the last person, the man sees is usually a man, whether it's the 1st world war or vietnam war also destroys those men who make it home alive. often they can't relate to their wives, can't understand what makes them tick. a return to normality is unthinkable. i'm not going to make excuses for what happened, what i'm saying. yeah, i do not belong to ms. hender saying that i don't belong over that led to the lack of women caring and the one dimensional to think on war. could it be the result of decades of male dominated hollywood directing? i think it's an interesting question about what women directors will do when they get a bigger seat at the table and a chance to make more films and to make more hi budget films. now what i'm going to
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do something may have begun to change in the last few years. wonder woman signals unused direction. the woman goes ahead into battle. men follow. it's directed by a will to kathy jenkins. some have celebrated the field as a kind of feminist manifesto that can be such a thing as a feminist for films. we're still waiting for her. so who are movies that rethink battle from the position of women? the woman is violent, war hero doesn't seem like any kind of role model, but it's likely hollywood giving us more than the future when the physical battle and the psych, a logical one begins. how hollywood depicts the hidden rooms that wars leave behind
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us. now, here to tell you that i have killed for my country or whatever and i don't feel good about this or wrong. the tidy why to me, like my brothers and no, i can't. i can't put in the words to express the leadership of this government to that with the same message the united states, since it's people to ex, returning as paraplegic. now, for more time, soldiers were allowed to talk about the war trauma. they were not allowed to do that after the 1st or 2nd, and also not after the korean war i shown for it in coming home from 970 s crews and 999. on the 4th of july, the veterans are turned now confined to wheelchairs and found they got anything but
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a hero as well. in the vietnam era, people who returned put their uniform in the closet and never wore it again in public because the people who protested against the war would criticize them and they didn't want to put themselves in that position. so i think that these kind of films have really helped to process the trauma for veterans for americans who were not involved in the conflict, but may be opposed to it to feel street. the issues differently, all of the stones leads room for the possibility that there might be something worth going to room shelter shoulder it was on the little bit different with a film like coming home, which primarily shows us that more is often associated with experiences and people never get over you, but the money that the war never really ends for the survivors of and the burden heavy pies the have to have be for one person alone to carry and answer that in.
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pardon, come one soldier chooses not to return home at all in apocalypse. now colonel walter played by mont and brenda loses his sanity. you must make a friend of horror power and moral terror. he takes his unit deep into the jungle to service his private army. so he can row free of any concept of morality. the character is used as a means to convey director frances ford couplers anti bully message fever films that have to really deal with a kind of national hang over and through the as them is over the wreckage and carnage is visibly clear. and how do you then deal with that anyone boulevard? lot of been used as soon as susan to make his point in his fil, mash, immobile surgical hospital, looks after the wounded during the korean war. but the doctor's hearts and minds of
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focus more on the attractiveness is on football. it's a way of keeping the pain and suffering and the harsh reality of what they faced every day in the operating theaters. nothing is sacred to outland, not even the image of the last supper, which he recreate for seen the movie. short is heard in his anti war film. but punch, run thick. is the best way to survive the war after all. this is in this war, movies are gripping both visually and emotionally. that's all from this episode of arts 2175 years after the end of the 2nd world war. oh oh.
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the news the who's the 77 percent on this week street to find out why is that young people seem very not interested when it comes to quality one can just look look, meaningfully, buy proficient and the time i'm looking for this the that's no one is going to
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delving into history and the present. i would never have thought that could be live . so i remind myself because i grew up in a completely different way the fraud, early jewish in europe, the 2 port documentary starts july 5th on dw. welcome to a special edition of the 77 percent that show for us, the majority young population of africa. i, if you are ready, i'm your host edie. mike, as you know, on the special edition, we are that it gave him the entire show to the rule of young people in politics are very own either kamani. let e street debate in uganda capital compiler on youth in politics,
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pensions are high in the country after 7 to 6 year old president was 70 tightened his grip on part of the wood in his 6th time in office. political opponents, having clamped down on the one stations, have been brutally ended by the police. how many young people are frustrated. so we ask, how can you participate in politics under the circumstances? watch this debate to find out this week on the 77 percent street debate. why would anyone show up to participate in the process by being short, by being kidnapped by being droned away. i think that's one. i don't miss the young people to come to be interested in providing support to suit whereby as i rested you a criminal suspect, you're going to be just doing under the mafia politics that we are having
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the the 75 percent is back in compiler in uganda obviously, and this time we're here to find out why it is that young people seem very not interested when it comes to politics. what he's, that's how it appears in the foreground and we're trying to find out why is it their choice, or is it a choice that was made for them based on the system? well, to begin the conversation, i'm going to start with mr. gilbert lingle. he's is from generation 7, as you can see, and he's actually rallying young people to support and 70. and my initial question is, how does one do that? because you're asking people who are an average of 15 years in this country to support a man who's 63 years older than them. for me to rally young people to support prison with 7. it's because of the ideology that it has. it's because of the experience before we get to that, i think there was a time that the part that had an opportunity to present a young person or not. and therefore there but to decide that it is 7. and again,
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i repeat, politics is not biology ideology. ok, so that's your argument. and just going to turn around and decide because i'm sure that people who do not agree with you. but lori and i'd like to find out from you as a journalist, you know, you just come out of an election recently. do the numbers reflect what you think a young people actually participating and not being voted in because of ideology? our government right now is not giving the young people the opportunity to participate, but the young people are willing to participate. so not been given the right to participate, maria, you want to jump in? one of the things gilbert has brought it out. so clearly he is talking about experience experience. when am i going to get experience and i'm from primary, secondary and all that. so you go, i actually participate in an election. i contested us by the name of parliament for with him because between this is derrick layla could sit there monday, emission fees alone blocks. very many young people. i can tell you a memo benevolent platform. we had so many young confidence and most of them
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couldn't afford that. no mission fees, that alone blocked so many people out. then you can give us an idea of how much it costs ready. it is during media and for to contest as an m p. i want to come to sarah because you also contested to be a member of parliament at the things that are being said by maria, true. i for one. i'm for in a room and i to but painted. yet the nation fee might be high like shifted. but the reason of why my colleague go but was speaking about experience presenting with 70, he's an experienced leader. the reason why he was what it is to these feet for this time. it's because we've experienced ugandans wanting to erase. we had differently does, who stood including yours of? nope. but people say to the same 70 elected president. why? because he was. what did no one foot in want. what are you ok present was what did into the feet under the woman by the he's the legally recognize president of this
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country. ok. all right, normally maria let's, let's allow joseph to come in. okay, now the main thing that is drugging uganda buck day out is the idea that these one presidents that can manage the state and the ideology that a few selected people. and if you selected people from the southern region, as opposed to drain the whole country at large, you see major offices, we have a have a selected few formula. what i'm talking about nipple tv, and that is drugging the country behind the think it's one leader that has experience that has the question is through the country. yeah, i hear you plain joseph, but to be fair, maybe he just said she stood up. she wanted to be counted, but people didn't show up for her. whose fault is it? it's not the fault of maria, but there was a country oppressed the opposition to an extent that they can put up high pays for such self. like you said, applying to become a member, the police single,
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the countries also problem we are and i can call it if we are under police did. okay. other than the democratic pit, it looks democratic, but inside, when you go deep everything from the u. d. show you to the legislature even eating food can be decided by the president. ok, that's it. just think it might not be true, but it's still interesting. moses, let's come to you. i think but young people are ultimately participating in politics. we're not have to discuss that the quality of participation, for example, in the, in the november 18th and 19th demonstration, that was a political process in itself. but it was young people who were on districts binding the test. yeah. so i think the young people are actually participating, but if you've not meaningful participation, then i'd like to come to you because you're actually a coordinator for a youth league. so we had about money, we had about suppression from government. is it true? is that what you experience? it is true if you don't break people the voters. they are not in return for you,
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but he has said that it has nothing to do with money. it's about ideology. know though you want to tell me that if i come to you with a great, you know, example of how i want to leave the country, so long as i don't have money. so if you don't have money, forget about you don't have money for a living testimony. ok, money. ok. if you don't have money, forget about. all right, let me come to michael because he has a burning point. michael, are you disagreeing with the idea that the commercialization of politics is what it's so beautiful, potentially definitely. so if you are taking even the just just go through to the as an example. one example, we've seen people with money, the i talking about lose. we have ups using the most of the new or the opposition. uganda. people have come to part. i mean, they are used and they don't have money. we have seen a young man who come to come and go and test for president d, mobilize the money for him, and he was 1st from the university. ok the the, the,
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the i thing that your money when very limited unlocking. all right. my thunder. you have something to say to me. i think what's going to be discounted is the fact that politics is very commercial right from the emission fees that she mention that are very high for any young person up to the campaign. every point is just money after the to the last minute, but i want to crossover to the point of brutality. why would anyone show up to participate in the process we have to by being should be by being kidnapped by being droned away, face face. i can use that. what if i wasn't being held incommunicado? why didn't one, we sin go to pet spit in such a space? let's ask the people who did it. why would anyone thing put themselves in such a scenario? to ask my time that, you know, sometimes the young people who we keep surprisingly because someone speaks about violence, the taking didn't drones and all that. i think all here people but speak to the politics. and i don't know if in the dentist fight to be good enough,
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i don't know because the, the, the, these opposition people read where you could not, but you're here. but hold on, just just for clarification, we're suggesting that only people who participate in the position of the once were terrorized or we think that it's happening all around. do you think that's what you're trying to paint just trying to paint. all right, let's, let's, let's get from, let's give him a chance to respond. my sister is like the best person who she's actually calling the fighting to the best bus. one was the best in terms of money. was, was it has more money. yeah. she had more money than the ha, that's why she lot. she lost in the play movies. so she got it right behind the person who had more money. so it was monday that was the meaning of it. ok, pisca talk to me. thank you very much. i don't want the police money as an issue, but it's obviously important to a nice bye to us for this money. you just said he received, called his in the on 20 and i received calls of money. no particles of money with
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a finance for this money that said this is actually writing. so everyone people did builder the design. and so for me i think it's a cultural issue within the people who make you actually have the money. how much play it becomes strong and the next ok for. so this got to give it a chance. pisca has made a very good point that the people who are demanding for money, the same people who want to be led by better leaders. ok, moses, i'll come back to you. i, i don't agree with pisca in the community. i lost faith in the institution of what the fuck. so it, this goes back to how we brought our institutions over leadership in this country. because there is no way you are going to expect someone not ask for money when, when to understand that after i do elect is empty, that is the last time i would see him in my home or, or it might be late. so they understand that this is on your ability for them to harness from this leader before they get elected to parliament. so i think it does have a very big role to play teaching the image or bi limits, then the community can bring to trust them and elect them when married. okay. all
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right, well i just want to just to recap, who said that this financial hindrances, it appears to be a major one. then we talked about brutality, some from unknown forces and some from government. and i know you said that you had experienced something of that nature. can you share with us? yes, i was during my campaign when nato was actually before the kid now before not before it was and it was an arrest. but before the arrest, i was advised by my trip us to one that i should know to come back home tonight because they looking for me. so i told them by twice when, which accounts they told me because i was putting one married barrier that people paula barrett. they came and told me i have issues to answer at police. and i of course i went with them and when i went to them, but it took me to police, they took me to someone's home, literally. and they were asking me so many questions and they're asking me to withdraw from the race for me. that was, i could not, it wasn't a nurse because i wasn't took into police. if i'm supposed to be the sacrifice the,
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the sacrificial lab for asked to check what is happening in this country. i am offering my so because this has to stop. all right, gilbert, you're disagreeing with this. i can hear you head shaking from the back. what are you disagreeing with? i am disagreeing with the issue, brutality, the iris. but how can you believe that periods? it's unfortunate that she went through that, but i want to make this note to each and everyone was the whatever is arrested. you're a criminal suspect. yeah, i know exactly what went on. he's comes to you. what idea the police is to protect law and order idea that when you see a policeman come here to do, you should be happy, but my life is going to be to be protected. but it's unfortunate our own people. i've made it aware that when this, if when his man they get stones who stole didn't see people being beaten on the streets. policemen being beaten or the streets is other kind of politics about the
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i do. but surely you, but i think, i think, i think give me a 2nd. please give me a 2nd everyone. i think it's unfair for you to say that maria's experience doesn't call it because she's told us that just by wearing a red berry, she was hunted. what i can bring to your attention, the people who are very mis guiding you, the name of security to touch. i'm going to in the name of black, meaning the name of government. very clear. alright, alright, michael. michael. michael. michael, allow me guys allow me to do the job. government issued out an order. well, i notice that still, what do you want these red bid is because you come a fledging as me to 30 visit people here. going to new breaking this ne, order from a government. right? so that was your point. allegations have been made allegations made just of course you're the one who was shouting false true. what are you, what are you saying is false? first of all, i wish to rebut the issue of heart that she was kidnapped. not only ha,
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we are talking about nation matters. you under every one, maximum of many people in the nation. you need the platform. what captured mean? you why heat many lost limbs. it's internationally knowing that meanwhile, hot under the issue that used participation into politics. i wish also to rebut that in, in uganda this did i, as i said, a politic youth were selected few. yes. and no one can oppose the president. you try to oppose the prison though not to teach that. he's got to be opposed, but that will show you to an extent that if you go for campaigns, you can be arrested. you can be hit, you can be ti august. so the issue is now not about money, i had limited but also the point where the said many people that had money loss, these people were hated. and if you to are possible, even the president is office would be shut down as by now. but why is the prism of their because of what i described to myself because they may live here right now
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and i'm ticking through the drawing you understand. and what on to bring to the table to the world is that you're going to, we just had 2 of these you into politics and the saw must the politics that we are having if you people he, to the president, the concert to paul. and they can cling to, that's what they think. all right, miss the cause a here has made some very serious declarations. and you said that it's not about money. it's just about being hated. that's why people are not voted in. and while it here was raising his hand to try and get my attention, did you want to add to that point? second to tell you to we have just seen policemen global general settlement. but it's meant it was going to come in. and even the idea came out and said, we show a lot by you who shall be with you the idea. can you imagine i'm? and if you, if you condemn it, then it's happened. so i think that one alone missed the young people who come to
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be interested in providing for, for because he says that the last one last one was about to they're kidding, up which my brother was saying, you can evaluate it because it did. we saw the minister for him to not say as the budget you don't. coming to paula min, i'm saying i have with the whole not to present the name of that said the people to the spot. i mean, i beg you to, to put to, to, to, to known tebow can imagine it was minister having a whole not even brought in to have a one or 2. now on temple i would talk to the youth. he's got a lot of research up with that team, the citizen. so my thinking that we need to come out and call them that those ups because those that are trying to compare young people from participating actively, political. all right, thank you very much for your thoughts because he has mentioned do, but specifically let me log in to respond. hey, there is no objection. it is august. before us did this,
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i suspect we saw them come at us undressing women. we saw them on come at us. nobody policemen. we saw them on come at us looting people, including them as a follow me about you predicted. going to look in the shops. so you want to police, we just look at it like that. ok. all right. we can go back and forth on this issue all day. let me come back to my time to hear i was observed. that's our colleagues . seem to think i just a bit about debating this is i mean, defending the system and i think that's not obviously the case for instance where they show money. if we said it just needs so high, you don't have to rush. i said no, no, no, that's because of the people know to the government lake. we have to say to the government, we are saying that it just needs high on deja vu saying those are suspects they have broken. do i think we have the system then our him, the government in power has we put in the law? it was not to be,
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it will be questioned and detained in and goes to the police and they wanted me to do this a bit. it but yellow, i'd walk around without any question. you have to be in the system to be safe. you have to separate the system. the moment you say you have an a difference because i do see that the difference is ideological. then the low will be used again, if you would, it would be we put again if you filter next tent of the kidney ups and it does and all right, let me clarify something here much. and are you seeing that young people who are participating in politics but who a for the current government, do not go through the same level of that's what they had to quit. as of right now, you see data of deployment. what you did not him had to quote as you would find it, but there's no harassment. have you seen in the yellow rotation being yeah, guys. i mean, that's really interesting to understand that there's a very different experience for young people who are trying to be elected from the opposition. and for government pisca, you may k young people into, into joining politics. because from dest submission,
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it looks like you're telling people that if you're coming to the space, are going to be beaten, and club, and everything, which is not true. i don't want to say that it's true because you add an electron, they are in full and no one who to me, you know, and it's me, i'm doing very many. what 12 candidates in mayor is i'm the one was begin. all of those things done to them, but it's not true that should give this narrative that all my good young people, if you come out, you're going to be right. that's not true. okay, let me come, let me come to this side. we move in quite maria, when you come in, as a young person for directly elected, sit not there really. ok for yes. so there is like a position that, you know, have you don't have to be, you have to be mindful to go for. that's it. the people will actually ask you that you see your friends that going for youth for you. so why don't you go? but these are a few positions in parliament to only have 5 looked for the young people. and so many port actually, you know you, you have to prepare you. so please god become a counsellor before you go for m p. so there's a lack of faith in the young people, but i'm asking myself and these people also young people,
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this country. as i said earlier, the average age is 15.9. so if young people are not voting for young people who should be voting for them, no one is going to elect you because you're young. give you the kiss or the young candidates that the contest would be by them right now. but beyond that, i think as young people we have lost direction because, right, know what ad hope that we would be discussing is how would we be with this mission? how do we reconcile beyond the device and move to get as a country? so you're basically arguing that the system is still polar, right. i think i think that back issues that come across just do with corruption cut across everywhere they and that i am, they knew that everywhere. well, what do you resolve it? so that the next time maria wants to some for politics, she doesn't have to be kidnapped or they don't have to go through what they want through. yeah. so sarah, i'd like to hear the 1st solution from you let the young people appreciate the fact that this government has frightened little bit when the of the young people that said job, why should the government be thanked for doing its job?
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no, no, no, no. we, we in what's coming out thing. thank you. got me. i think the few the lead that they have done. we think thank you one, the few things that government has done to make sure that me if sarah was once a baby, i am now 29 years old and i'm still leaving one of the things that i should appreciate after i appreciate that. i know what are the government projects and programs that i've been put around for us, the benefits, if we appreciate that this exist, we can actually use them. the problem is something that i always say is when i am pausing, i even forget that actually the something will benefit from the government because i am lunch. these projects. for example, in yoga money is going on right now it's been given me. so if i had to, so in case you missed in case you missed several points, she says number one, gratitude, and secondly, taking advantage of the resources that have already been provided for young people solutions. sheila solution one will you need to go back to the ways of listening to
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l does. you're not going to work up in the morning and so you went to contest for m p without any mentorship, but this is the work up in the morning. you have failed to rule up close to it, but you want to look up at the morning and ruler country. a small business that you own, you have thugs and you're good. a beautiful. yeah. okay. so all right, listen to your elder. this is what sheila is arguing while in solution solutions. we need to have re learning the fish courses to calamities. our schools will be happening on the be the challenges that comes with leadership. young people. okay. yeah. alright pisca. thank you very much. one of the things i'm proposing, how about if we use our, our, our, our capacity as youth, we have a very, whatever been for us 2 to 3 been. i don't think in the eighty's to vote before we like the stories to run the room from the mysteries we had. the stories of ridge ball is running gun under joseph. knew was running to because that was, that was all over the country was it was unstable. but it is this ability and we
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sound good for that. talk to him, hold we hi, miss hall potential using the environment, the thorough does. it's a very substitute for us to participate in. we didn't know we didn't know. i sit as low as as contents. what can we try and use tool, and then we'll make meaningful put your money where your mouth is young or 8 or you . people must understand. i'm voting for this leader to do this under the sun this because most of what even ignorant about what effect and lead us should be doing. and that is why they've been asked you questions related to murray? a few questions. so i think we should do that, but then i also request government to also allow, give opposition political parties because opposition would actually do this with this job very well. but government is really has been really guarding the 5th so that people own the push and let that people because it is actually working for government to live ignorant. right. so very good points. you've made marie, i really like them. you but solutions. i think what is important for us citizens of
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this country as young people, is to engage. so as an economy call it something i'm going to generate money because you're not going to easy. everybody would have a job, you know, but government has it will. i have to tell you these days that with from the government site base monday, i'll look at it for these. ok, so you can know me can civic i because you and you're going to, you can return without your boyfriend election and you're not even since days. you know, people, what they are on is if you want to be elected, there is a why my sister 0 and what elect probably that you know to the l as well. everybody has an opinion on why these 2 women are not elected. okay. fantastic. and finally, i'm going to end with you moses. i hope you have a killer point. of course i do. reconciliation is very important because at the end of the day we are old. you can dance and can't just be fast beyond colors. and we can do it, we can, yeah, i can good of economy colleagues, financially. this is done for young people. our time is now. thank you. i really
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