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and is working in 60 minutes on the w. every journey begins with the 1st step. and every language with the 1st word, pinnacle rico is in germany to learn german. why not learn with him a simple online on your mobile and free w e learning course, nico speak, german meaning the the war films are really away for people to transmit a kind of history lesson. almost every filmmaker. ultimately they want to make a war film. the
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ah, just feel of the trenches at a safe distance war on the silver screen. whether patriotic glorification or cautionary tale movies, shape or ideas about war. they tell stories of heroism and trauma wheelchair. where are the black soldiers on the cinematic battle field? and what role do women play in war movies? we put the film genre in our crosshairs, 75 years after the end of world war 2. ah, most of us have never and hopefully will never go to war. our experience of battle comes from the movie. the war has fascinated filmmakers from the start
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battle themes push the technical limits of movie making the news over a century of cinema, war movies have become more intense, more realistic, and more violent the but do they show us what war is really like? sam fuller, hollywood director and world war to veteran didn't think so. the father, who was sometimes in a bad mood, would then say, if you really wanted to film war, you would have to actually fire real. and you live at the audience or over the head of the audience. one of the 1st great war films was lose milestone classic
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all quiet on the western front. it was the 1st popular movie to depict the fours of world war one all quiet on the western front, and course a groundbreaking, what's worse, and it shows the ugly sense of war upon my particular, on the mass that's on the western front. steven, good side, the milestone was a declared passive, but even his movie makes war seem excited. and so you speak the machine gun, and then in a reverse charge, you see the people that are being bo, down as though it was the camera itself. mo, in the people down the can get out of this problem, which is to say that you have to stage the very drama that he's also trying to criticize the excitement of war cinemas taken to the extreme in 1917
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director sam mendez depicts his grandfather's experience in world war one. as a grand adventure, the in deer hunter sat half later in vietnam, or is not a fun adventure. the infamous game of russian roulette may or may not be historically accurate. for director michael camino russian roulette is a metaphor for how combat really feel main element, those combat is waiting in terms of firefight usually is fierce. unbelievable. saying and is over in a very short time. and then you're either dead. you're a paraplegic or you're alive. one of the 3 know in between when steven spielberg recreated the world war 2 d de landings in saving private ryan, he made it as visceral and violent as anything in the or 100
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spielberg wanted to try to put the viewer exactly in the position of one of the infantry soldiers, you know, who had bought his body was essentially, you know, a target the viewer can feel the fear, the, the excitement, the pressure, the terror, the nervousness, everything. there is no other way that an audience would get that much of a strong impression. of exactly what it was like to be in that battle. the it's very uncomfortable for the viewer confidence who said at the same time, in an almost perverse way. it's fascinating because it's like going on a ghost, right? i guess we experience something that we're not really experienced during the ghost, right? we know the monsters aren't real. and then the movie, you know, the wars and real. this is a supreme moment of invasion in the end war cinema remains,
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entertainment or cinema is never war. our movie memories of battle become more visceral and more violent. but we're still a long way from knowing what war is really like. they're both fascinating and horrifying films that are critical of war. ah good come in the morning. me spell victory. it's one of the most close lines for mobile film rather devolve physical
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commentary will kill go in apocalypse now. the system shortly after he and his troops carry out a helicopter attack, one of the main village, accompanied by miss ride. as is our 1st popular message of war, total madness. the contact was on. you could say that anti work on a certain domes would warn you. never be just fine because i can be of any contrast in war films. doors may be justified, but they still do not say that war is beautiful or good. what's in the sand? they still show the horrors of war. he taught them off the 2nd side, the like the 2nd world war in the good. he doesn't precision and loyalty determined victory and defeat the director. robert august. the m justify the main. as long as
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the nazis early emanated, the random loan is sent to vietnam to free american prisoners almost single handedly. when, in real life, the united states had loss. remo, what most people call the hill, called the dividing line between propaganda and patriotism between glorification and deterrence is seen in many films. the fuel, after the american disaster and vietnam pulls more and more still makers in hollywood to take a clear stand against war. and they was successful, all of the stone one for us because with platoon that kind of film really be to
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have a pass this message, go slow. so the problem with a pass, if it's more fil, is that this is a contradiction in terms of the i think it's definitely possible to make more films in such a way that at the end of the film, people are filled with what classic tragedy called p. t and off or shock and horror . but i think that only works by virtue of the narrative you tell. streams can read like the bridge. it's shocked, audience is 15 years after the end of world war 2. with german society was an experience in economic miracle that displaced all the memories with killing and dawning book assumption that originally that is especially suitable for young people, had mentioned that because it's about young people and they can identify incredibly well with all these characters. so there's also an excellent film,
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an incredibly well performed film as well. you can start to use the speak. you don't even know how the young's last the i'm going for her. you obviously sound kinda saw the boys don't listen and come to regret. then i know you wanted to remember the 2nd he also hand and film that spoke out against the media rearmament just a couple of years after the west german army had founded indirectly. it also ask you questions about where the confrontation in the cold war was eating. nothing should be forgotten and that the film was released in 196461. shortly before the cuban missile crisis, which the 3rd world war, almost broke out, to beg, i'll skip off me. kennedy malik is not interested in politics, but philosophy in the thin red line. he depicts the battle in the pacific and 1942, from the perspective of nature. beautiful and
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disturbing. he seems to be asking, how can these things co exist? all the beauty and all the horror film could hardly express it. the war has no place on this planet. ah, many popular war movies were made in the usa. but how close does the hollywood version come to the real thing? i use most images of american soldiers and war, have one thing in common. all the soldiers are white. african americans fought in every american war. but black faces and battle have been almost entirely whitewashed from america's visual history. especially
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at the movie, john wayne is the epitome of the american g r. from world war 2 to vietnam, hollywood has consistently shown the great white hero, saving moore. but hollywood got its history wrong, in not getting the true story. in fact, the 1st american killed by the british at the boston massacre was a black man. i was a black man and addict christmas addicts was the 1st and long line of african americans who served and died for their country. after the 2nd shot. before you saw supply all hell breaks loose in 2008, director spike lee told the story of the real life 92nd infantry division, so called buffalo soldiers, who fought in italy in world war 2, the fake bought them
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and these film was the 1st to show black americans in combat and glory, dental washington, place a soldier in the 1st all black company in the civil war. the films with african american soldiers, front and center, are still the exception. stripes on and they're like pitts, unable most studios on. and most filmmakers have been white males, and they've been telling a white male story. but with the black lives matter movement, the calls tell other stories have gotten louder. has have the calls for america to reckon with its berry history. do you think that black lives matter and all of that conversation now around social justice and historic reckoning isn't really productive one. i think it's very, very educational. why were there not more stories about african americans put in the forefront? why were token representations ok,
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this is something that i think is reckoning that has to happen. and it's a good moment to begin at telling the african american story changes the heroic image of america seen in most war. moving to black soldiers who fought fascism abroad, came home to a very different country than their white counterparts. the contest winner, right. boys want to big no problem. so we just look into those little weiss, let us go back tray. they went back to my nigger who i serve as my damn bit a hit was bu step as you feed over there. you want me to eat? i love a trough in the backyard. like i'm some dam, pay me to shoot. you are the guy down american. me remembering that forgotten history can help white america understand
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where today's protests come from. me. the last time your city had a curfew was 943. you know what the reason was? a black stove to come back from war to get killed by a cap. harlem went crazy. so these rights, not me. i don't, i don't want to get to a, with the guys that were right, these uprisings don't come out of nowhere. the least new film shows african americans fighting and dying in vietnam while back home, civil rights protest, rage the america has been here before. one step to imagine a different future will be to put black faces back into america's war history. mm.
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ah. the women are rarely in the foreground. war movies wouldn't be complete without them. ah, men interacting with men, men fighting men, men dying with and because of men. war can seem like an exclusively male affair and war movies, especially. so, where are the women they appear rarely open only in the form of a photo or a memory or the desires of those on the front lines like this scene from 917, a male soldier longing for his wife. they are something worth fighting for. what is the virtue, if you know
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a family member whose photo is in the pocket of the soldier who he looks at away from the front depictions of the mother figure like here in spielberg saving private ryan silently suffering. she watches tragic news approaching. we see the fear in her eyes has another of her sons being taken from her. hon and clicks for him. tell him, war films are spectra, a counterpoint to the men. there's another, this manners, the middle gentle visor and human human mis dish, and he won the emphasize the hardness and humanity of male behavior. and man, i just mentioned 5 and speaker, and he should cover the with his and andrew swing to the shall be the women symbolized goodness, the hospital,
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nurses healing. they sympathize and give comfort. they can also play the role of restoring men for the next battle. therefore keeping the war going, the women have on some level, a very conservative function. they are the loyal wife and mother who stay behind and wait for their husband to come back. they are the ones who keep the country and the family going. in the spielberg film, the mother is a strangely passive character. her grief is voiceless. time on screen less than 10 minutes. she's already lost 3 sons to war. now the last son james, is to be sent home to minimize her anguish or bring you back. or i can't leave that where they're supposed to tell your mother
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. when they send her another folded american fly and tell her that when you found me, i was here and i was with the only brothers that i have left and there's no way i was going to desert them for the son, cameron curry with his fellow soldiers trumps his mother's grief and kinds of wool . sometimes a woman's role is symbolic, like when schofield meets a mother and child, something like mary and jesus figures. and i wanted to let but as soon as the soldier leaves this apparently less the scene killing continues. fallen for women embody the costs of war and even more films without passages undertone states. and women are hardly presence in films,
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sexuality and especially homosexuality are completely absent. bodily contact happens only for the purpose of annihilation. women characters only rarely, central. mrs. minerva shows the suffering of civilians living through war. here, it's not a man who is the victim of battle, but a young woman. she dies in the arms of mrs. manda. very much an exception in this jaundra. during the last person, a man's these is usually a man, whether it's the 1st world war or vietnam also destroys those men who make it home alive. often they can't relate to their wives, can't understand what makes them tick. a return to normality is unthinkable. i'm
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not going to make excuses for what happened, what i'm saying. yeah, i do not belong. and then and they're saying that i don't want to lead to the lack of women carrying the one dimensional perspective on more. could it be the result of decades of male dominated, fully with directing? i think it's an interesting question about what women directors will do when they get a bigger seat at the table and a chance to make more films and to make more hi, budget films. the now i'm going to do something may has begun to change in the last few years. wonder woman signals a new direction. the woman goes ahead and baffled men follow. it's directed by a to kathy jenkins. son have celebrated the film as a kind of feminist manifesto. but can there be such a thing as a feminist war, films?
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we're still waiting for her. so who are movies that rethink battle from the position of women? the woman is violent, war hero doesn't seem like any kind of role model. but it's likely hollywood as the giving us more than the future me when the physical battle and the like a logical when begins how hollywood depicts the hidden wounds that wars leave behind us. now i'm here to tell you that i have killed for my country or whatever and i don't feel good about this one. just decide why to me like my brothers and no, i can't. i can't put in the words to express the leadership of this government to the with the same message the united states sentence people
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to ex, retaining his parents. he just now protest in the 1st time, soldiers were allowed to talk about the war trauma. they were not allowed to do that after the 1st or 2nd and also not after the korean war. i june, 4th in coming home from 978 and some cruise 999. on the 4th of july, the veterans are 10 times now confined to wheelchairs and found they got anything but a hero as well. in the vietnam era, people who returned put their uniform in the closet and never wore it again in public because the people who protested against the war would criticize them and they didn't want to put themselves in that position. so i think that these kind of films have really helped to process the trauma for veterans, for americans who were not involved in the conflict, but may be opposed to,
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it feels, treat the issues differently, oliver stone's room leave room for the possibility that there might be something worth going to room show shoulder it was on the book is a bit different with a film like coming home, which primarily shows us that more is often associated with experiences that people never get over. but the money that the war never really ends for the survivors of and the burden heavy pies 0 who are apt to have be for one person alone to carry. and i'm from the in cotton come one soldier chooses not to return home at all. in apocalypse now, colonel role played by mom, brandon loses his sanity. you must make a friend of har, har in moral terror. he takes his unit deep into the jungle to serve as his private army. so he can row free of any concept of morality. the character is used as
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a means to convey direct to frances ford couplers anti war message. these are the films that have to really deal with the kinds of national have over the and to the as them is over the wreckage and carnage is visibly clear. and how do you then deal with that? i mean, there are lots of been used as soon as susan to make his point in his fil, mash a mobile army surgical hospital, looks after the wounded during the korean war. but the doctor's hearts and minds focus more on the attractiveness is on football. it's day away as keeping pain and suffering the harsh reality of what they faced every day in the operation. nothing is sacred to open, not even the image of the last supper, which he recreate. first seen, the movie i shot is heard and this anti war film. but punch runs thick and maybe it is the best way to survive
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