a spanner in the works of angle macro succession. and then also a key test for that. when to be successor, the cd you need me, you know, we are going to come back to you in just a moment. we're going to take a look now at what it is that makes the alternative for germany policy just so successful in eastern germany. cranford isn't a delight. little town. one of germany's largest medieval castle, sits right in its center. life is tranquil here. there is hardly any crime may 2021 was campaigning season, hands to my stationary represents the se in the local council, as well as in jackson, the and her state parliament. one of 3 people in there for his voted for the a. if the and the past tish night have an over voters with messages they play well here we will introduce free day can free school lunches. we will also started

a petition offensive and immediately depart. all immigrants who don't haven't residency permit either get through the obscene blanket prejudices of the story about immigrants and refugees from considerable support. you take far enough, for example, because foreigners have more special rights here than we determine is do. and that's not ok yet. hardly. and far enough to be found, this can be traced back to the history of germany. the german democratic republic or de the art was a separate country from the rest of germany until 9990. and it was a socialistic tissue, authoritarian and militaristic, social diversity was not desired. immigration was only rarely allowed. the g or citizens over through the government, germany was, were unified. but the economy and social infrastructure of the pharma east germany collapsed. many people felt that they were let down and had lost out a sentiment that continues to shape the social climate. in the next,

someone from the last 25 years. we have observed that many young people who were very mobile and had a dia for shipping their own lives, decided to leave eastern germany for social, economic, and cultural reasons. and those who stayed here, even the younger generation, tends to be the ones who are most cautious, the most fearful. perhaps even the ones most likely to articulate these prejudices . and these are exactly the people the a reaches out to us for tyler articles younger than even for the d. v. s. d. cause than claiming to be the party, they will solve all their problems that they also act devices. lee. then when we rule the country one day, then i promise you, these shady mobs will have another thing coming and then a new day will dawn for you. but if the voters don't

mind radical speeches and they don't mind perfect. petitioner has ties through, right. we need to stream it. on the contrary, what they want here is a party who rejects what democrats germany sent for the culturally diverse society . back now with our chief political edison mckayla chris know who's in the book, the capital of saxony, and halo the a f d party, been running neck and neck with the i'm going to michael cd you policy in recent polls. what you'll sense right now could be a f d in saxony and be heading pro victory in the selection. well here the fact is, i mean there's been quite a few polls and only one really put the a f d for me ahead of angela mac or c d u party. kind of hot off the conservative c d u candidate of michael's party beat his opponent from the forward if the hands down when it comes to popularity ratings,

but also competence. on the other hand of spectrum, zack's in the on hold is seen. it's pretty much a dry through country and me and that's how many people here feel and around a 3rd of people still undecided. so it would be quite a surprise if the a f d came ahead, but mathematically, it's still possible and it could well be seen as a protest vote against the establishment. that's the mix we are in here. my guess would still be that kind of high off his mind is to establish himself as such a patron of politics and overarching figure that he will be able to pull it off. but they're still very big question marks, and that's what the a f d. his hoping for? a question marks we will be watching closely. w chief political at the semi kayla kristen, i think so much on the taxes have killed more than $130.00 civilians in the west african nation of the kina paso authorities believe islamist militants were

behind the massacre. it took place in the village of sol hahn and the north east near the border with news. yeah. it's the deadliest attacks and islamist violence ruptured in 2015. the fighting has displaced more than 1000000 people in became effective. and for more on this i am joined by or nella motor, and she's head of the health program at the institute for security studies that's based in bama ko in neighboring. molly, thanks so much for joining us now. this is the worst attack in recent years in became fast. so what more can you tell us about what happened? and so hon. well, we still know very little about the facts. some of the few facts that we do know in fact a group of our assignments attached to this peaceful civilian village, which is also also located near

a mining sites and the other border with the she's in an area that has been exposed to vitamins for, for several years, the fact particularly brutal is that it made no difference based on age, sex attacks men, we men, children. and the final that's all that is reported is, is so temporary. so there are, there is a possibility that we may end up with. we should mon costs that's been higher than what we know already. can you tell us why the keynote and its neighbors have seen a resurgence of extreme as violence in recent years? what are these militant groups trying to achieve? this is a key question. i mean the entire site. how reach anything socket with a complex security crisis that the back to 2012 and the praises in the

neighboring month. but over the years, the price is prior to the northern parts up the way this happens now as well as to the western part of michelle, which has also been exposed to large scale mass attacks against people in settlements in the last few months. so it seems to be a clear a 7 by, by another group to both care and wish situations away, as well as to confirms and undermine seats in these areas. and why is it proving so difficult to stop? the millison insurgencies in the region facing insurgency is in general, is extremely huge. due to the very nature of this type of warfare.

it's extremely mobile. and 16, the bullet's file. the reasons a specific location, certain necessarily where you can identify that the group can go up to that. so these would require, in fact, state policies taking creational approaches that are much more rapid, much more mobile, much more. i mean, using probably smaller units, but this also comes in much in a much more complex environment where you know, issues around governance, local governance around local come to conform compounds, the general insecurity and makes it even more difficult for face. we charge on very centralized and not that strong in the broader areas to intervene and protect their community on ella motor on head of the program at the institute. so security studies, thanks so much. no person has been planning to loosen lockdown restrictions later

this month in the wake of the success of its vaccination program. around 3 quarters of adults in the u. k. have now received at least one corona virus job and infection rates have fallen drastically, but millions still have not yet been fully vaccinated. and a new strain of the virus is making people nervous. all over the u. k. people are lining up to get their 2nd vaccine dough sooner than expected. it's a race against a new threat, the so called delta vary and 1st detective in india that you all hung. this is the mid day q in front of a london vaccination center that's offering students a shot. we all want to read this back to normal and get rid of the things. but the delta varying could spoil the plan to now dominant variant in the u. k. is suspected to be at least 50 percent

more contagious data to prove this is still lacking, but it's clear that cases are on the rise. in some regions, there is a steep upward trend there, lifting restrictions quite quickly. prime minister boards, johnson says, june 21st is released day, the end of append to make everything move back to normal. but we still have a lot of people, a large percentage of people who are not fully protected. we are going to see a 3rd wave in the u. k. we are seeing it already. the case numbers are going out. initial studies show that fully vaccinated adults are sufficiently protected against the delta variance. a far smaller percentage of those who test positive are ending up in the hospital compared to before the vaccination campaign began. but scientists and politicians are still debating on the best policy for reopening, or i can see nothing in the data at the moment. that means we can't go ahead with step forward with the opening on june the 2021st. we've got to be so cautious it would be a mistake to commit to reopening on the 21st of june. we've learned to our costs

over the last 15 months. delaying action can often mean it's too late, which are wary of giving up any of their new freedoms. but the more cautious policymakers warned that the next 2 weeks are critical and determining whether there's a new surgeon, infections in formula ones as a by john graham, pre a series of crashes, one of which involved championship leader stuff in the red bull opened the door for his teammate sergio perez to win the race following perez was aston martin sebastian festal, who to 2nd and pierre ghastly, who was 3rd outside, tore, raining time can louis hamilton fled off the track before finishing 15. that was the 1st time in 55 races that he had finished outside the points. in watching the w news live from berlin up next,

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the internet has spawned a new brand of karen prism one seemingly without taped out. some of these perpetrators are called lone wolf things, but that only refers to the execution of the crime alone would always belong to larger packs, ideologically speaking, location, wooden loan moves, and those to support myself, radicalized online by the sounds, and they meet and exchange ideas on internet forums for violent, fun, right? ideology for use investigations in germany and around the world has been looking in the wrong places and completely underestimated the impact of these internet forums . well, we need a huge increase in online policing by may be a factor of 10 or 20 and we need this policing. they have a bigger and more visible present type. as the threat posed by these moves increases, so does the number of casualties. there's a lot of dangerous people out there. they have been close to the same passion for

violence. there are risks of societies they live and they were from all over the world. ah so white supremacists, and as bearing break is the original lone wolf under major inspiration. on july 22nd 2011, he killed 77 people into attacks in no way off the self regulating online. then you as president obama stress that is lama he st. mrs. we're far from the only source of global terrorism. the rest of that were especially concerned right now is the lone wolf terrorist of the sort that we saw in norway recently. you know, when you got one person who is deranged or driven by a hateful ideology, they can do a lot of damage and it's

a lot harder to trace those lone wolf operators. he would be proven correct. 9 years on the loan rules and responsible for more murders in the western world than any other kind of terrorism. just as digital media is changing the world, so to is terrorism with it, many potential terrorists, almost exclusively radicalized with right wing propaganda from the internet. and they likely germany's biggest threat to government still fail to properly understand this brand of terrorism. these loan moves launched for the same social profile, white male, and typically a recluse with no friends. their ideology, racism, anti semitism and hatred for women. that fueled by a dangerous mix of frustration and political radicalization. these men typically spend hours on end chatting with like minds on international online forums called image boards. uses often present their hatred as satirical mockery and bid to out

trump each other image boards to enable users to post pictures and text anonymously . and originally were created in japan to share manga images. probably the best known of these websites is for chance. over the years, the content posted shia has become increasingly radical, with bullying, sexism, and political extremism. now the gnome, most of the services are located in the us where precious little content is deleted . christopher, he becca, one of germany's few prosecutors specializing in cyber crime uses image boards in his investigations. police are evidently people who essentially live in a bubble, who named where they become emotionally desensitized and where a certain demographic groups are portrayed us and human. and where there's growing incitement against people of a certain background noise at the bush. and so the inhibition threshold is lower

and, and that could increase the danger of not just hate speech being disseminated on than that, but also of crimes being committed in the analog begun as seen in the german city of hundreds on october the 9th 2019 stephan valley a tried to force his way into the synagogue intent on carrying out a mastercard and the jewish holiday of yankee, poor be the locked synagogue dual prevented even worse. horace, frustrated, he instead murdered 40 year old deanna lang outside the synagogue, and 20 year old kevin shops in a cab shop. as valley a fled, he wounded the 2 people with his self made guns. he also streamed his attack life online for his online community who could react in real time and share it with others. but he, himself is believed to have uploaded the material to just to forums. but after seeing a potential a german use, it immediately meant it to the biggest image board line for chance, where it soon accumulated thousands of page views is then entered the public domain

and found itself on smartphones around the world. even victims, as well as their families, saw the video on the daisy attack. we tracked down the original person that shed the video in germany, a man who since being charged with incitement to racial hatred, he explained the attraction of anonymity on image boards. we now only contact people online who we are familiar with, not people. we don't know. although it is exciting to talk to people you don't know and who would never be able to identify you. videos of attacks also serve as a badge of honor for that online community. similar to a high school or in a video game, perpetrators the eager to gain recognition via a high school of victims. and those schools are listed in insidious holes of fame, particularly sickening of the bonus points for murdering children. stephan valley was looking to add to his murderous high school was his attack of one of his final

victims. just like in video games where cars can be used as weapons, he deliberately accelerated, in order to target to somali men who were just coming out of a street car. one has been with after tax, he brought him he came from the wrong side and really stepped on it. i tried to run away, but the car hit me here. i went to the ground and lost consciousness. and he just drove off. the perpetrator was even heard in a post soon afterwards, complaining desperately that he comes to functioned. the impact to violent video games is something florian, heart lab has been studying in detail. his research produced, which is now a standard work on this new form of terrorism. he gave me, if you cation this, pierre was, there's a rising gamification in the terrorism scene platform. and the platforms are

changes with the noise. and the latest development is live stream of the law, where perpetrators are directly addressing their families. and that's something you can see very clearly in hollow, at least in hollywood walk. this is the court room in the regional capital mac, the book that's been hosting the trial of stephan valley. the terrorist attack on the synagogue in germany made headlines around the world. the shooting raised fears of a resurgence in far rice extremism. this is the scene of the valley i was led into court on the 1st day of his trial, amidst great public interest. its hope. the hearings will also shed light on the background to the attack. is meant taken, the owner of the combat shopping haller, almost became a victim himself. he makes a personal speech outside the court up there was a life before the attack and there is now

a difference. might we are survivors of the attacks on october 9th, 201-9000 are taken as accompanied at court by his attorney has experience of trials involving far right terrorism among his previous clients. the victims with the nsu, tara cell, and the racially motivated shooting in munich in 2016. the response on the truck, i'm interested to see how the accused behaves, whether his months in jail have given him a chance to soften his rhetoric. or whether he's a hard and far right ideologists who will attempt to use this trial as his own stage, you know, a privilege, but valley was indeed eager to use that stage with no sign of remorse in court. he would claim that he had been fighting for the survival of the white race streaming his life video was in his eyes more important than the attack itself. his aim to motivate others like him and spreads his message of hate. that very video would now

be shown in court to the satisfaction of valley. a bill called a crackpot with a crude philosophy. i think it was no surprise that he's anti to medic and as lama phone and a racist and what also became clear is that he cannot disguise his beliefs. dorothy gordon, that crude philosophy was easy to expose, that prosecutors had few insights into radicalization online with him. i think a check who had been chatting with and on which forum, what kind of ideas and plans were being this guy was what, what did he tell others? and what does he know about those individual? i said, these are the crucial questions, not least because there are currently 4 very similar attacks being tried before course in different countries. the so called low rules have very strong political

motivation. the attacks in 2019 ball, almost identical, whole monks, perpetrators, self radicalized on the same image boards right manifesto that bird from each other and wanted to stream their actions live online. the terrorists from 29 team of frequent visitors to the for chan, image boards. and the even more extreme is a chan and its successes. they also use these chat rooms to announce them murder was plans and publish their manifesto on these forums the most violent taxes on it and remembered things. the 1st of these attacks and 2019 was carried out in christ church. new zealand brenton tyrant stormed into 2 mosques, murdering 51 people. he was the 1st attack to post a live video like in a 1st person shooter game. and he inspired away for further deadly attacks. first in california and texas, followed by oh,

slow in august. and then finally in holland near dietrich, she's all familiar with these image boards and writes gaming greek. he monitors new extremist content being posted online every day and gives presentations explaining the danger emanating from these perpetrators invasion is leaving. the eyes from the world they live in is not real. it's about some of the talk elliptical end of the world scenario. and they claim there is a white genocide taking place, and this is why it's basically a death hole where the end of the world is not seen and in germany to avoid they see the loss of germany that's coming any day. now from an eminent attack on us by lords of muslims, or some other evil forces and end of days fantasy that people become obsessed with . the hate of muslims by these would be terrorists, almost brought combat opponent is mate taken to his end on the day of the

attack, he was on his way to work when the perpetrator fired at him. it was only because of luck that he survived. he since turned one wall of his restaurant into a memorial. and his combat shop has since struggled to continue onward and much live at night. you get nightmares. when you think of this awful attack these puss yet, how it happened? why whoa! and why nobody could stop the open. why did nobody do anything? was good tongue. whether your teeth too slow to identify the attacker, we're heading to isolate but one of the poorest towns in the country where stefan valley a grew up. here we meet some of the few acquaintances, he has, what kind of person was he? and did they suspect anything beforehand? might like there remembers him occasionally joining him and his friends that they

regular hang out by a supermarket. he remembered much like many others. how he made races, comments, freaking foreigners and stuff. people don't take it seriously. you're going to pollute. it was just regular kids shooting their mouths off. i say it's more a case of following the crowd than actually joining protest marches or whatever other crap why he just wanted to belong somewhere on this is mike lang this celebrating his birthday, playing drinking games together with these private video recordings seem to suggest by the i was a typical teenager for the area. the young men would spend a lot of time driving around and generally had right when views and other acquaintances of his but also willing to talk to us. they describe the now 27 year old as an unassuming, lo, now more shy boy from next door. shortly after finishing high school, he left his hometown to do his basic military service. before moving on to study

chemistry, he then dropped out of his studies due to health issues and moved back in with his parents that he began assembling an arsenal of weapons. drifting deeper and deeper into the ideological alternative. well this, these and then moved a development mike lang now also noticed that's actually over the, evolved over time. now he was becoming increasingly withdrawn and eventually broke off all contact. when the last time we were hanging out together, paranoid and kept talking nonsense, about its own being tapped is trim, telephone appeals to mister body was now online practically 247. when he turned into a terrorist, he had online discussions with individuals who remain unknown self radicalized on youtube and american conspiracy theory. websites. as with most loan wolves, he spent month preparing for his attack. during subsequent interrogations by the

police. he was happy to provide all manner of information. when that questioning tend to image boards and his online contacts. however, he stopped talking, determined to protect his community investigations, remain in the dark as to who exactly he discussed his plans with and barely questioned him on the issue during interrogation. towards the end of 2018, the environmental, the image board was becoming increasingly violent. then an attack in a synagogue in pittsburgh with the killer, posting a farewell message on a chem greer optic. i'm going in the front of the asked him on the 15 image, but because this was the 1st time we saw an image for the clear majority of people posting their advocating or violent was it? they were no longer saying it's not looking good on yet. but the importer thing, there was a breaking point where people actually believed that there were no political

solution. and the only response was to take action and murder people and mentioned them on the degree to which the attackers of 2019 felt affinity. with each other was evident, doing stephan valley is interrogation. when asked why he had fired another shot at young atlanta all day. she was already down. he said he didn't want to end up like philip man's house than a widget man who murdered his adopted chinese born sister. he announced beforehand on an image board of his plans mosque, but on his subsequent attempt, he was overpowered by muslim worship in court. he claim she'd been fighting for the survival of the white race. he was sentenced to 21 years in jail. man's house, use the trial as a platform that okay sign here serving as a gesture in support of the white power movement gesture also bought it by the christ church attacker in court and also found by the police in holler on the computer of steph. and by almost all of the terrorists in 2019,

also used steam, an online platform for buying and playing computer games, which claims to have over a 1000000000 users. they use the platform to play games and chat with other people around the world. they also form groups and the far right symbols are sometimes used in violent games. 18 year olds, dove in somberly, was an active member of the extremist anti refugee club on steam. in july 2016, he shot dead 9 people of non german origin in munich, before killing himself. there was substantial evidence pointing to farm right motivation. somebody use the same terminology later used by the 2019 terrorists d to published a manifesto its title. i'm going to now kill every german tech. despite the far right motive does every, he's refused to see right wing terry with them as an issue. it took until the end

of 2019 for them to classify the attacks is not of a fall right to st. message attorney claudia has been fighting for a comprehensive investigation into the attack. she represents a number of the victims. families have venus questions and i find it hard to accept how it came to that initial assessment time to put simply not acceptable of me. i find it hard to believe or even call it real assessment tools to make if this was a case politician liberally playing down the and not wanting to fix the problem solving the 3 years later that became inevitable. also due to what happened in how heavy it is, i for the parents have chan layla. one of the victims of the 2016 munich must occur. acknowledging the font id, energy behind the attack is vital for them. justice is also completely explaining the motivating factors in order to prevent further attacks. right terror in germany is a very present danger. we've seen since every time how many others have happened.

hipson go find their lives on the, on the hudson. however much evidence our attorneys provided and it was only rejected kill in mind. you could see it as 9 people dead more. you could also see it as 9 foreigners that on this often. but in this case, it was 9 non german's death was my most in like storm one hop on that left a mark on that if i should be less than that in july 2017, the right wing extremists to has supplied somebody with his gun, went on trial, a tiny cloudy and cited a range of quotes from steam groups such as the anti refugee club. there were clear indications that this group could produce further lone wolf attackers via the last is we found it incomprehensible during and subsequent to the trial. that when we bring up the existence of online target lists, a german court with check motions of evidence and as expected,

the next attack was not long coming. 21 year old william atchison opened fire in his former high school in as tech, new mexico, killing 2 students. but hispanic atchison had chatted frequently on line with the meaning attacker. i should get back, come back and we had ready realize that the setting was right for another attack. and it was just a question of time before something else happened is going to be sadly, it was no surprise when it did. we saw the limits of german rule of law and it's not a good feeling in this case in albuquerque, new mexico, the stage for a criminal trial that could eventually see german officials also being brought to account. jamie latin is the mother of one of william atchison's victims, casey jordan market. she wants a full investigation into the virtual network behind the anti refugee club, linked to the murder of her daughter, and also into the failures of all sorts. she's involved. i think it's worth it for

her voice to be heard how things were overwork, how things were out there. things could have been turned to prevent this and it was i think it's important for my daughter's name's sake to do something to say something to take action and the family is still suffering even now the supporting network behind the attackers will not allow her beloved dorsey to rest in peace, members have even posted cases, autopsy report online. jamie latin has tried in vain to have it taken down. i was very shocked. i mean, i've heard of the dark web before heard of these kind of forms before, but i never understood or realized how big it really is. just casting that there's individuals that

troll for these kinds of things. they look for these kinds of things. they idolize these kinds of things. my daughter's crime, scene, crime scene, voters are all over the internet. i've had many, many sleepless nights because of that. so her next step is to hand over the litany of official failures surrounding the attacks in munich and as tech. to louis roblis, one of new mexico was highest profile attorneys despite available evidence. u. s. law enforcement likewise failed to determine the virtual background of the man behind the as tech shooting had the f. b, i simply done their job and look through the online, you know, gallery of statements that were being made had the f. b, i. ashley looked at the aspect shoot a school file, they would have realized that he was serious about committing the crimes. and ultimately he commit. they knew how to identify it. and they just

simply didn't do it in this case. and in germany to the authorities had clear evidence, pointing to the far right network. but despite witness testimonies, describing william acheson as a potential attacker, that information was not forwarded to agencies in the us. it is our mission to hold those accountable who allowed this tragic event to occur. and if the german authorities are in fact at fault for this, they should be held accountable and we would consider pursuing litigation. if the evidence supports it, it would be a horrible thing to find out. and again, an actionable thing in my eyes. if the german authorities chose not to inform the united states, you know, all it would have taken is a phone call. rebel as is now waiting for the f, b i's files on the case,

and we'll be working with german attorneys to finally get the full picture on links between the 2 attacks. this international online network of killers has so far escaped full investigation. we set out to track down a former member of the anti refugee club in germany. he was arrested prior to the execution of a plan to attack and subsequently undergoing therapy. he provided the authorities back them with information about the new mexico shooter, william atchison. i came across addison because he was apparently the best player anywhere of hatred on steam. his name was natural selector, i found that impressive. and he then introduced me to the munich attacker w, somebody we'll tell me what he thought about the german authorities refusing to admit a connection between actress and, and somebody that's just to do. but we also tell he ended up in the terrorist

community. i wanted recognition in a social group. i came to it through instagram where i looked for past attacks. most of the people are young, around 16, but somebody with 18. i didn't have any friends at high school. i was mostly just at my computer and didn't understand the typical daily life of others. so i felt understood by these people when i posted stuff glorifying attacks and i get 200 likes for one of those photos. in the case of the munich attack, the german authorities failed to investigate the anti refugee club with serious consequences. and even in the wake of steam does not appear to be a significant focus for investigators. germany's domestic security agency was asked to assist with investigations but told the police they only had limited access to the publicly available steam id software. we use that software to find further,

steam friends of the halla shooter, but they do not feature in the court files. what's more, despite the perpetrators excessive gaming behavior, police interrogators did not ask him about his contacts on steam. a large proportion of loan wolves, the regular players of hyper violent line games me as part of an international venture involving generalists from 4 countries. we managed to identify the steam profile of the christ church. terrorist went to talent. the profile is still active and this given a superior status by supporters with bonuses and the upgrades they buy us another online hall of fame games, glorifying attacks of publicly accessible on steam and enable uses to express them murderous fantasies. this game stimulates an attack on a gay pride parade. the guns used by the shooting remarkably similar to those of the christ church shooter, as is typical for steam. games are not subject to germany's network enforcement or

facebook act. steam is not required to monitor content and stores only a minimal proportion for the purposes of criminal investigation. on request for comment from steam went on on that. sir thomas gabrielle. rudy go one of a small number of german cyber criminologists who has published works on the topic . it's an unacceptable situation in those people. imagine an indoor playground where extreme and then all age groups meet together with rape and children involved . and those kids are exposed to rape as an extremist them. yet how long do you think it would take for the government and police to realize that, you know, way we have to take protective measures of kids. but that doesn't happen on the net crisis. it's just a small group of gamers that radicalize into lone wolf, a group that exists about the uber gamification. this, there is no discussion about the gamification of terror here,

which is also probably due to lobbying by the gaming industry on women uncertainties. but once you bring it up, you're accused of resorting to the old violent video game argument. 50 to kill actually about to be 12 on is, is even leash law. what's missing is a discussion about ultimately these terrorist lives having been excessive gamers extra c for game of on. and in many cases this kind of online perpetrator is acquainted with other terrorists 50 or alice. that's was i'm and give off and there's a tendency to group all far writers together and is from the nephew for the murder of walter luke and now holler, holler on this even though this dish. so inter shy it the sort studies of your own fun. but we need to differentiate between the place and society of far right in my dream is who are active in the analog domain, the sort of soon,

and that of gamers who have nothing to do with the local seal can belong to virtual subcultures and communities to even ties in front of you in court and that distinction is not being made to potentially finish it. it's not an issue that needs addressing by academics and their ivory towers to them. some of them is, this is then about the capacity of security agencies to take action. the sides be how to do it. so what needs to be done to prevent a repetition of the many mistakes of the past? we've all 9, we need a huge increase in online policing by may be a factor of 10 or 25. and we need this policing to have a bigger and more visible present site. and that's what we need our experts who are familiar with gaming of mom. it's an issue that crops up all.