ah, ah ah ah, this is the w news coming to life from berlin for both being served military commander rock tumbler is here today whether he'll spend the rest of his life jail per genocide. judges will rule on his appeal against his conviction for war crimes, which includes the rubber meets a massacre that earns him the nicknames, the butcher of balls. but even today, many serv say he was only protecting his people. also coming up not come,

do not come. us vice president tamela harris has a blunt warning for would be migrant south of the us border on her 1st orange trip in office. and maureen stopped dwindle off the kenyan coast. we hear about a local initiative to change fishing methods to make a more sustainable future. ah . hello and terry martin. good to have you with us, former bosnian serb commander, rudco melodic will here today. decision on his appeal against his genocide conviction for crimes committed during the 1900 ninety's conflict in the former yugoslavia. luggage was jailed for life in 2017 after a un tribunal in the hague,

among other atrocities. he was sentenced for his role in this rubber needs a massacre. it's the only crime in europe since world war 2 to be declared genocide, victims relatives have traveled to the hague to hear the verdict. a few kilometers north of chevron, its the genocide, memorial and cemetery, honor the victims of the 995 massacre surest and none of its last 23 members of her family including her husband. his last words to her take care of our children. when you get flavio broke up in the early 909 keys ethnic to existence rapidly dissolved into ethnic conflict. foggy and had for governor became one of the most physically contested territory. as serbs crow at some bulk. next vide for control. in july, 995, bosnian serb general rudco melodic entered trevor. and it's in the following days, at least 8000 pounds knack muslims were slaughtered. mostly men and boys.

the remains are still being identified by forensic scientists today, using dna analysis. melodic went on trial at the u. n. tribunal for the former yugoslavia and in 2017 he was found guilty of war crimes and genocide for having committed this crime which the chambers, census mister outcome luggage to life imprisonment from aladdin has challenged his genocide conviction. and the appeal verdict will be the last and the case against him. 60 kilometers from sarajevo in his home town of colleen, a vic, melodic still revered, the hero of you held by many bosnian serbs person. he's an honest man and honest commander who only defended his people. nothing else

. i think he deserves to be released because he's not guilty of anything. those who lost loved ones in the genocide. 7 hope the final ruling will confirm a lot of guilt for them. it's a question of justice, not just for their families, but for all human kind of spring and catalina listed here. she's a researcher with the global and european studies institute lights. the university, thanks for being with us this morning. dr. research. what are you expecting from the court today? do you think mr luggage has a chance of winning his appeal? and thank you. one cannot really predict the legal verdict, but i do not expect that. you know, the significantly alter the child chamber decision from 2017. as a matter of fact, it is widely expected that the appeal chamber will confirm the law that she was

guilty on the charges of genocide as van itself. sarah, arising severely and in, sorry, able during the 3 years long seas and uphold the life. as we saw in our report, the melodic is revered by some of his compatriots. they see him as a hero. what do you make of that? oh well it is through that then it's the largest role in japan. it's has remained contested memory in serbia and in the region despite all the number of verdicts detailing the atrocity and the responsibility of law. judge, candidates for that matter. but the public in serbia has never failed, even fair presentation of what was happening there. and in july 1995, i lived in belgrade and then public was occupied,

celebrating the 1st major 4th victory. it was a peon basketball championship. and then you love the one increase and the media reports the not the details on both the own war on atrocities is that it was just another victory and think the war. and that is how we streaming. so as you say, you've lived in survey when luggage committed the atrocities there in scrubber needs. in an earlier interview. you told us that most people there including yourself didn't, didn't realize what was happening. you just explained what was on television or people there today aware of what happened. do they recognize this rubber needs a mask or as a war crime? generally i think there is awareness that trusty was committed, but the general site charge is highly contested as the political charge. and mainly populations would say that it doesn't amount of genocide. instead of talking about

genocide as serbia, you would probably hear about, you know, what's in the 2nd world war atrocities. again, so rather than applying genocide to try to do the war in ninety's. and just finally, the conflicts surrounding the breakup of the former yugoslavia they involved ethno nationalist movements that linger on in the balkans today. how dangerous would you say those movements are nationalism and these movements have been dangerous and they flourish during the war, and they've been static part of regional politics the last 3, the decades. nevertheless, there is a disturbing trend of the rise of radical right mainly connecting through social media where anonymous users are celebrating genocide in buffalo and certainly in la ditch and cut it into heroes. inviting for acceleration of violence. terrorist under brave it in norway and branch on current in new zealand were inspired by

a radical rights and the one kind of decision. and this rise the practical rights is by no means some damage to balkan. it is really connecting islam of lubbock. extreme is beyond europe. dr. rich rich. thank you very much for talking with us. that was dr. cutter in the research of like state university. now us vice president. cala harris has arrived in mexico on the latest leg of her 1st foreign trip since taking office. she began in guatemala, where she addressed the main causes of migration to the united states, the by them ministration is hoping to stem the flow of migrants from central america by introducing a local aid programs and economic opportunities. but similar u. s. efforts have failed to deter migrants in the past. good morning. the 1st real test of her diplomatic savvy, on her 1st trip abroad as vice president,

kama harris met with the guatemalan president, alexandra g on my tie. the bite and administration considers the region of priority and harris said she was bringing a message of hope. you got a good my mister president. i'm very proud that this is my 1st foreign trip. we are neighbors. and we, we share familial. we share that market. and it is important that as we embark on the importance of this relationship with the name, but she also made it crystal clear that the neighborly relationship she has in mind does not include the entry of undocumented immigrants to the united states. she delivered a blunt message to people thinking of making the dangerous journey north. do not come. do not come. the united states will continue to

enforce laws and secure our border liberals. you see president t m a title, paris emphasize the need to improve the living conditions and economic opportunities for guatemala out of work that we can do together. their hope does not exist by itself. it must be coupled with relationships of trust. they must be coupled with tangible outcomes in terms of what we do with leaders to convince people that there is a reason to be hopeful about their future and the future of their children. but that future remains uncertain. natural disasters like her can a to and i oh, to ravage central america last year. and the corona virus pandemic has triggered yet more poverty faced with the effects of climate change and the deep recession. it's unclear how the, by an administration expects nations like what tamala, to keep its residents from seeking

a better future abroad. sketch up now and some other stories making headlines around the world. peruse presidential election is still too close to call left his candidate pedro castillo has taken his slim lead with over 95 percent of the both counted his right wing rival k. kofuji murray is alleging voting irregularities. she has accused custio's supporters of stealing boats. customs party rejects the allegation all nato secretary general young stoughton back has said that china's leader is, quote, don't share our values after a meeting with us president joe biden, nato leaders. we'll discuss china and russia at an alliance summit in brussels. next week i spoke with marine biologists around the world are making world oceans are marking world oceans. de scientists say global warming and over fishing, or having an adverse impact on our seas and oceans. study by the university of the

sunshine coast in queensland, australia has found that waters are already too warm for some species to survive in tropical areas. the research highlights that oceans around the equator are much less rich and marine life than in previous decades. pre swimming fish, species in particular have shown a significant decline. we report now from mom bus, in kenya. coral reefs of the coast are dying at record rates. scientists are monitoring fish populations and recruiting local fishermen to help conserve endangered species. the reef looked the great. it was at least there are still fishes here. jo, ann coworker and her colleague pizza will still be visit the room some way ne, coral reef every 2 years to check up on this fragile ecosystem. that is where the life of the ocean layer. so that is where you find the really loving life. i

love reading for the defense, letting life in the most of the by doesn't play day, but i live in 2 sides. concluded that we have 244 declining partners in the last 2 or 3 decades. and that is a problem as local fisherman know all to well, my son was born and bred in some, winnie fishing has been his main source of income for years. now i told him once i was on the pharmacy to potentially still good. when i started quoting, but over the past 4 years and he sent me, the number of fish has been declining monday. call me daddy clark. i'm on base. i'm lucky say you enough. i knew, and i was the marine biologists have enlisted the support of locals in their efforts to protect the coral reefs. they've taught fishermen how to count fish and

species in marine conservation zones, and how to interpret their findings. for example, high numbers of clown fish in the coral reef is a signed, ugly habitat is doing well. they've also taught them a simple method of keeping juvenile fish out of their net. the fisherman still use their traditional basket trap, but now use different mesh. we were doing that kind of make sure that he's being you being and that he's 3. and that's the thing that you get to ensure that the, the kind of the start is being captured by the buckets up not given a maya has been, has been using the new kind of mesh in his traps for 2 years now. and that, that idea about you guys yeah, behind it if i hope i will be able to catch more fish in the future. so take better care of my family. my parents knew that that idea, missouri,

they the same considering the challenges we now face. i also wonder if this dream will ever come true. i figure the scientist estimates that it will take up to 20 years for fish starts to recover completely, but at least my children might benefit. you're watching the w news from berlin. we've got business coming up next with robots. don't go and ah, the news young immigrant they know the police will stop done.