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carbon dioxide emissions have risen again. ah, young people all over the world are committed to climate protection and what impact will change doesn't happen on its own the, to make up your room, mind w. need for mines the . this is dw news, and these are the top stories, low enforcement agencies around the world have made hundreds of arrest as part of a thing targeting organized crime networks. investigate to say they gathered evidence by tricking suspects to using a messaging app that was actually controlled by the f. b. i police read the communications as they planned drug deal, weapons sales, and murder. you. when judges have upheld the sentence and charges against
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full bosnian serb military commander, rock co melodic is the final verdict for him after he appealed his life sentence and conviction for genocide, crimes against humanity and war crime lodge was the commander behind the 1995, stripped beneath the massacre and other atrocities during the bozeman war, but the french president, in my name a crowd, was slapped in the face during a walk about in a little town in south east france is security entourage pulled the man to the ground. the president described the incident as an isolated event. the police have detained 2 people. this is dw news from berlin. you can find much more on our website, d, w dot com. the o. a bad code
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that he served for see during the bosnian war in 2017, the butcher of boston, there was convicted on charges of genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. today. un court upheld his life sentence for his role in the killing of around 8000 bosnian, muslim men and boys in what became known as a strep, and it's a massacre. so was this justice and what lessons are there still to learn from europe's worst atrocities since world war 2? i'm fil galion berlin and this is the day the news today also got the final judgment. yeah. this is a life sentence for the message for crimes committed someone has to pay for all
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these children killed here. someone has to pay for in the morning. then for housing, the individual identifies individuals into nadia. we still need to be investigated and possibly also on the day and a huge global sting, the f b i and police forces around the world and tricked hundreds of crooks using planted encrypted phones a criminal. so they were chatting in secret on these devices. but the feds were listening and the distributors, administrators and agents had so much competency in the secrecy of their devices that they openly marketed them to other potential users as designed by criminals for criminals. but the devices were actually operated by the f b. i will begin the day in court
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in the hague, where united nations war crimes judges have rule that, that co melodic will spend the rest of his life in jail and upheld the live sentence against the 78 year old form above the military chief for his role in genocide and other atrocities during the bosnian war and the early nineties. luggage lead troops responsible for a string of deadly campaigns, including the 1995. reverend, it's a massacre and the feature of c, just sorry, over the decision is his final verdict. following his appeals against the convictions and the sentences he received in 2017 that this was the final verdict on the so called butcher of bosnia radco luggage in his late seventies will spend the remainder of his life behind bars. you put luggage over saw the cold blooded killing of some 8000 mostly muslim men and boys. when his bosnian serb troops overran the town of trevor,
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anita the slaughter is the only crime in europe that has been declared to genocide since world war to some of the victims relative travel to the hague. by on the historic verdict, the war criminal has lived here the final ruling on his life sentence. our goal was never for someone to suffer, but to make him take responsibility for what he has done in a city a lot. it's held under siege for more than 3 years, while his snipers and shells cold, thousands of civilians rather than express subdued relief. so it may seem, he deserved the life to do, and i hope that's a mother that's for benito. are satisfied with the burden or at least those who survive toys. but in other bosnian cities, many serves, continue to revere the former military chief, claiming he just tried to protect his people because
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people and their politicians will never accept the idea that general law added to the war criminal nor that genocide was committed here. hand painted banners in the countryside outside of sara. yo, testified to that sentiment to this today. one of the big challenges we seen the region that individuals who have been convicted for war crimes are still considered as heroes in ours, of their communities. back in reverend ethos, the verdict is an important step. but for these women, there are still no guarantees that the hatred that lead to the deaths of their sons and husbands has disappeared from bosnian society for good lamesa castorena survive. they 990 to 95 bosnian war. she was a child im sorry, over was it was being shared by bosnian serb troops today,
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she's deputy director of remembering strength and it's a charity dedicated to creating a sassy, free from hatred by learning the lessons of that conflict. welcome to d. w. can we start with your reaction to the verdicts radco luggage will now face life behind bars. yeah, thank you. first of all, for having me on tonight, my initial reaction obviously was one of i think some rest bite. it kind of felt like i could read easier. however, i know that this is not really the end for us to fight continue. and i think obviously it's phenomenal that he was convicted on 10 out of the 11 charges as well as the charge of genocide. however, i think there are so many body and families and survivors are still morning. and really, i think really from the fact that that 11 count,
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that count were genocide in other municipalities. unfortunately, it was not counted, he was acquitted of that. you said that the, that the voting allows you to, to breathe a little easier. there was doubt in your mind that, that he's, he's voting would be upheld. i, you know, i think as a bargain survivor, i have, i've learned to always be prepared for the absolutely words. ready this journey towards us getting a sense of justice. there's just been so immensely long. i mean, it's been 26 years. i'm now you know, full grown adult and my thirties with a child of my own. and for me, this process started when i was, you know, the age that my daughter is now actually. so i think for us we have just always had to be cautiously optimistic. there was always
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a little thing in the bang my head. why did we equip them? what do we do then children? interesting. and then you sit there and you look at your daughter. anything? well, what i was your age. things were so so different. yeah, absolutely. and obviously, you know, as a mother, i'm extremely thankful that you know, she does not have to go through what i went through. and in fact, you know, i've made it really my life mission as a survivor of the war and the genocide to ensure the other children don't have to go through. and it's this weird experience. when you grow up, you become a mother yourself and a parent and you realize, wow, any dots only when i actually realized how awful it was, what we had to go through and the circumstances and the environment that we really forced into, which was one of you know very for your life when a daily basis and it's just a gruesome that was our life that was our daily reality being without water
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being without electricity being without food. and obviously, you know, living in here, not just that i was going to be shelter or bond or service order was going to come to take me away. but knowing that there was a member of my family that were imprisoned in concentration camps. knowing that there is a possibility, and in fact it ended up being true that there was so many of my loved ones that i knew i would never see again. and this was, you know, as somebody who is only 56 years old. so it's having that knowledge as a very, very young child really does that with you or robert and 26 years on. we have peace, but we also have a section of society that has the governor who see rudco la h as a hero, we had in the report, one person saying that people will never accept them. luggage is a war criminal,
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know that genocide was committed. how does one society co here, how do you stick together when this terrible thing happened? and there are people amongst you, refuse to believe that it did, or that it wasn't justified? well, it's very difficult. i think this is really where, you know, there's a place i think feeling of a lot of people who believe that by receiving diverting he is that he did receive, getting life improvement justice has been served and now the country can move forward and recover. but that's not going to be the case because even today, obviously if somebody is highly outspoken about the bombing genocide, you know, i received to have emails and draft from last quarter. and that is an almost daily reality for me. how do we move on when there's people who believe that,
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how do we i think the question we should really be asking is, what can everyone else do to help boxing and involved actually become a more cohesive community and a stable society. okay, so your stage and what should, what should we be doing? well, for one, i think the, you know, this sort of normalizing of people like me, i'm the president of public, i got the entity and even people like watch the president of serbia who both of them to this. they deny the genocide. it's not the regular people that really have any control or power. and honestly, if it's a random stranger who thinks the ethical adage is a hero and isn't guilty, that's not so much of an issue as it is when it's on a state level. and it's absolutely on
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a state level and i think that's what the international community has to understand that there are still politicians who are held by the international community where absolutely denying the genocide instigating no nationalism continuing to. so those seeds of hatred until that sex until there is, i think some harsh, i think may be interference or punishment. and even, you know, a ban on jet upside denial or, or punishment of justified reliable isn't being as a form of hate speech. until any of things are happening occur. i just don't see anything actually progressing. and so the work continues. thank you so much for joining us on christina. from remembering stripping is the police forces around the world. they've made hundreds of arrests as
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part of a major sting targeting organized crime networks. investigators gathered evidence by tricking suspects in using a messaging app that was actually controlled by the f b i in the united states criminal. so the encrypted shots were secure but didn't know the police were intercepting and leading their communications. as they plotted drug deals steals and murder, drugs, guns, and money, lots of money. that's on top of over $800.00 arrests worldwide in operation trojan shield. top law enforcement officials around the world worked together to distribute $20000.00 devices. they named anime to criminals who thought their messages were encrypted. while police read their communications, police disrupted dozens of plots. users who tried to check in on the website on tuesday were greeted with this message. this domain has been
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seized, the f b. i gave details. and to give you an idea of the magnitude of our penetration, we were able to actually see photographs of hundreds of tons of cocaine that were concealed in shipments of fruit. we are able to see hundreds of killers of cocaine that were concealed and canned goods. australian police mounted raids based on, intercepted messages as to the swedish and that's cops among others in germany. police made dozens of arrests. is a muslim ist, and this measure is a very, very big blow against organized crime. was increasingly uses encrypted internet communications to plan deeds pop up. thinking that these communications cannot be perceived and monitored by law enforcement agencies involved in non want
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placement slides. but then authorities admitted that they were only able to intercept a small percentage of criminal chat worldwide. but they sent a message, no communications are truly safe. well, that's of a look at this with rafael. the song who's an expert on you and jim security policy from the german institute for international insecurity affairs. welcome to d w. so we've got around 9000 police arresting more than 800 suspects and 16 countries, that's quite a coordination and quite an achievement. sure. i mean, the big show operation for the f, b i and all those involved and you go to law for some time the after effect. so this is the beginning of a longer campaign that we'll see. but of course,
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we also have to be realistic when you're a failed rise to this report. org to find you the hydra. so you went ahead and scroll back and i think the stuff we have to wait a minute. so when they see patients like this, especially when on such a vast scale, all these, all these police officers around the world going and at the same time, it begs the question, does this mean that crimes were allowed to go ahead over the 2 years of this investigation in order to avoid the criminals knowing that they were actually that, that communications were actually compromised. was also information details were really shared. but that was a massive thing operation basically. and it's also telling, i mean there was been previous takeovers of those communications in europe. and anchored shopping was last year, but i was hacked for few months. this was running for almost 3 years or 2 and
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a half years. and i think for those, the operations, many european services are not allowed to do this in this kind of manner. so yeah, i suppose that they kind of kept their cover for quite some time and it's not, it's just like a film because that the criminal justice system so much that they were actually recommending them to each other. yeah, i mean that was one of the reasons opperation that when i just into that with the b service provider taken down market, it was one before in canada and there was another one in march been taken down. so, i mean, there are many, many more, but those 3 take down create new demands and that was the actual strategy to floor, to have more people floated into this kind of new outbreak service. so, so that was kind of sequence that they were kind of hoping the criminal would not see the truck. i don't think that's going to be repeatable anytime soon,
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unless that already out there. and of course, this is a very different way for law enforcement to acts, instead of arguing with the likes of apple to, to get them to help them. a lot criminals phones, they effectively made their own. yeah, i mean, this is really a bold. i mean, i don't think this could have really been organized here. i don't want to judge you . this is policing tactics. and well, the apple phone that was very successful. this was a very rich and deep intelligence mine and the operation so, but other thing i don't think we can expect to be the one for the future. but of course, the good find the police are catching up and also modernizing the ways of working. and how does it work and organizing while i'm staying over so many different jurisdictions? well, i mean, believe we're always in international, i mean, interposed already more in the previous phone, more than
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a 100 years old. so it's not like police news. but of course, this is a new quality of international cooperation, and i think many are to plot it for that. i'm into the i have international networks with decades and the fear that history and even taking part. but all your opponents are important to it. and many other european services. so i think they have been a number of operations the last couple of years because bought men because start darkness trading places again on the chat services kind of creating a community policing that does help him to finish the funds from the shop in the us . thing that's, that's what we seeing and these kind of experts we were cross borders because well of course also colonel ross borders talking to thank you so much for joining us. rattled by song from the german institute for international insecurity. fast thank you. i want to be clear to folks in
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this region who are thinking about making that dangerous track to the united states, mexico, board or do not come me, do not come has come, harris and gloss amana with a clear message. 2 would be my groups, the us vice president of is on her 1st foreign trips since taking office. she's been to mexico, where she met a president on jasmine randall lopez over a door and took part in the signing of a memorandum on how to tackle the big causes of migration, including poverty and political oppression. let's get more of this from dw correspondent, cutting edge of more in washington d. c. welcome kind of in it. so do not come. that's quite a use compared vice president compassionate rhetoric when she was campaigning with people reacting to the switch. harris has been
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criticized from members of her own party here in washington. fail not only because it's a u turn in the immigration policy, the fight in harris administration originally promised. but also because it is quite surprising to hear these words from a woman who her telephone, the daughter of immigrants who came to the united states from india and jamaica for many hearing the words do not come from a vice president to a base. her whole political campaign and stressing that she is the daughter of immigrants and who knows that migrants are often in a situation where they just don't have a choice. has been a disappointment. congresswoman alexandra has the cortez, for example, cold terry's comments truly disappointing and said that seeking asylum is a legal means of entry. this whole trip and the words vice president harris has chosen just hold that the by didn't. harris administration is really under a big political pressure in this issue. right. is that what,
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what is problem said this? this change if tell them, because this is a decades old problem. it is its politics feel what the democrats are working on here is unavoidable. the images of crowd childers have the us border. the ones we saw actually march and april this year. and the republicans, especially the trump supporters have been using these images from the border to construct a narrative of fear of thread in and out in the united states. and this will become, of course, even more important the closer we get to the midterm elections next year. it's important to stress. also, the democrats have a razor thin majority in the congress. and they can't really afford to lose a seat in the midterm elections if they lose the majority in congress. they will be in a lanes acceleration where they will just not be able to govern. but what makes cooperation with the northern triangle really difficult isn't a problem. the problem for us wants to tackle are also in the same
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governments, like, for example, corruption. and we can see this, and that is what makes it really difficult for the united states to cooperate with some of these governments also including mexico. so president trump may did his best to try and make it an attractive for people to reach the border. this administration seems to be trying to make it more attractive for people to stay in mexico. how are they doing that? the earth is trying to address the root cause of us are already mentioned in the northern triangle. that means in what am i? let's talk about or, and in, on do it as like corruption, like violence and also the economic crisis. we are all industrial pandemic. and what am i allowed as well as in mexico, the us side has signed a series of announcements to fight corruption. and at the same time, to empower initiatives from the civil society and also including the private sector . but these are really long standing problems and they need long. 7 term solution.
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thank you for that kind of get you more in washington. of course, this is not just a mexican problem every year. hundreds of thousands of people traveled north from central america through mexico in the hope of making it to the united states. the w reporter i tore science has been to the city of the top of tula in northern mexico and southern mexico. near the border with guatemala, it's one of the key arrival points for undocumented central american migrants. danny rios traveled from honduras to mexico with her 2 daughters and 2 nephews. they've just been detained, a checkpoint in tampa, tula, and don't know where they will be taken as they arrived last monday. we've been hungry and slept in the park because we had nowhere to sleep just trying to hold on none. august sanchez has been running
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a shelter for migraines and half of july for 3 decades. she's noticed that since you as president joe biden to power more and more women are arriving alone with their children. you know, sometimes there's a button like in the north and a bottleneck here. we don't know what to do, but people are still coming in. a bite. migrants are forced to seek asylum 1st and mexico before they can continue their journey towards the us. the authorities estimate will receive about $100000.00 asylum applications this year. that's more than double the number of last year. the paperwork used to take about 20 days to process. now, it takes months. that's left thousands of migrants from haiti and central america stranded in top of chula struggling to survive several n g o say it's part of a deliberate political strategy to dissuade the migrants from leaving their countries. the u. n. refugee agency says governments need to do more as
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a when you're calling for a greater effort from all countries. if worse, there's not just one country that has to deal with this situation by you get to pick up, we're seeing it across the region. remember, and all the leaders have to be involved. in consulting plato, danny and her family spent all their savings to flee the violence in their neighbourhood. and his father was recently killed by gang members. new people who killed the boy's father threatening us to. we don't want to go back to 100 know locked in this then and worried about deportation. they feared they've invested everything just to end up back where they started. and that was the day i've ever the conversation continues online at times on twitter at the w news news
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news, news, news i get started. deliver, deliver, deliver. go morning to get ready logins for pick up, started, deliver, deliver the china years, work 7 days a week. and if they are too slow their wages goble,
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pandemic. now has the rate of infection in developing what measures are being taken. what does the latest research say? information into context, ah, maybe virus updates and special monday to friday on d, w ah, the welcome to global 3002 buttons who have fled that home and making a new been switzerland. but the hurdles a great, the homesickness in kenya, a lake is following villages. but where does the water come from?
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and how is that affecting life and the region and china's delivery drive as long, stressful hours for very little money? how do they see a quick and tasty bite? but there's no way to go. the current, pandemic casino boom and delivery services around the world, food curry, as rush around, bringing a plethora of meals to customers. the global food delivery sector is set to reach a 126000000000 dollars this year. by 2025, it will rise to more than $190000000000.00. the biggest market is china followed by the u. s. and india. but just the fraction of the money goes to those making the deliveries. they tend to earn low wages and worked long days and nights. that's led many to take to the streets and called for better working conditions and an end to exploitation. you can call me wang included piper from my real name,
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not appear in this report. so when someone asks what i do for a living, i say i'm a food delivery. and as other people have sundays off or they have vacation time, we don't have those privileges. my son being is very stressful for you to come, which is not nice for me. here are your rarely the customer say thank you. and then there's that moment in the evening when i see how much i've actually earned. and so when invited us into his home in the chinese capital, he had to work until midnight the previous night. so we need him at 9 am when he has to share a room and a bed with another migrant worker, they have no heating. when it reaches freezing temperatures outside,
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i don't have running water inside it. when that happens, i have to go to public restrooms to brush my teeth and wash my face. i he pays the equivalent of 65 years per month for the roof. the 57 year old migrant workers since every says then 2 whites and 2 children back home. so that sold only when i make 58 years a day, do i earn more than i did back home at the factory? young sanderson, but it's hard to recall. i swear all day long and those of his job requires him to work at a quick pace. so determine how much time, you know, each trip they assign deliveries the sometimes they pay decency, but often they don't want to cause i said, i need more than $30.00 good orders a day. i don't,
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one's listed here are all bad and i get just $0.65 per delivery. ah, he almost never ends more than 2 euros per delivery. and when it comes to the strict delivery deadlines, his p, i coach at being late leads to pay deductions again, as the current rule, is that for every 5 to 10 minutes of being late, my pay is reduced by more than $0.60? no, no no, you don't already sweating profusely this time because of time pressure on the water. i have to wait here until the food is ready. maybe in a very stressful the afternoon is a stressful time for all of phasing. these no time tickets for yourself. oh, go out to eat. meals can be delivered for as little as the equivalent of 2 euros and $0.50. one has 10 deliveries now for being late,
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he could lose more money from deductions than he earned from the deliveries. about 7000000 food livery workers are employed in china. this recording is from the beginning of march 2021. it's a process against the industries low wages. this is 10 go john. he advocates working conditions on the 31 year old as a delivery, working himself with his online videos course our attention. they showed him providing a to his colleagues with communal dentist that he organizes which rises the 10 go john united people who had previously been fighting on their own. he's respected by everyone. then suddenly, his online videos were nowhere to be found. at the end of march 2021, he disappeared. our contact with him was cut off. 2 weeks later,
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his parents received a notice from the police station where he was being the best way to racing against the clock to deliver those 10 audi made all those deliveries. so i called the customers for my moped, so it worked out. now i'm really sweating the cheap labor makes life comfortable for the emerging middle person. but all i do is work that much. i don't even know what i do, who i can me if i had time to come, which, when your poor people look down on you, they view you as incapable. that's a phenomenon here in beijing and everything is all about money. the most commonly asked question is, how much money did you earn last year? me?
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why hate myself for doing this job? but everything i do for my family back hard not really challenging. the $950.00 chinese troops invaded tibet and took control of the small mountain kingdom . over the ensuing decades, chinese authorities responded forcefully to any uprisings, including that of $959.00 thousands of tibetans lost their lives. countless monasteries were destroys. in 1959 to bet spiritual leader, the dalai lama went into exile in durham in northern india. widespread restrictions main. tibetans can only freely practice their religion and culture outside of their homeland into itself. tensions between citizens and the chinese authorities felt regular bouts of unrest most recently in 20082012. political repression has
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driven many tibetans to go into exile with little hope of returning home. the buddhist traditions of his forefathers are extremely important for tens in originally from tibet. he now lives in switzerland. he fled his homeland in 2013 and started a family here to here in destroy slope. and i would like to stay here in switzerland buying all i want to work as a care assistant and provide for my family. when for mind, if i just want to live a normal life, i normally live in living tens in dreams that staying in this swift village and building up a new life here. we've changed his name to protect his identity. his wife also fled from tibet. the couple of broken old ties with the homeland as a fear of
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a kind of contact me mind for me that i have no contact with my family because i didn't want to call so many problems. my familiar with my family doesn't even know that i have 2 children that it makes me very sad to talk to and i'm very homesick. they're hungry. they've had 3 allocations for asylum, rejected this with the authorities believe tens and came here. fire another safe country and say he should seek asylum there instead, without papers. he can't work, even though he trained as a care assistant in switzerland. but they've at least found friends here via fossil and down from them today to help them through the tibet friendship organizations. it's and it's a health, there's a support network for example, where individuals can befriend refugees and help them with everyday challenges. size that so often many tibetan fine consent in prayer and meditation. and this book is monastery and i was dr. north of sir. it provides the perfect
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setting. tens in love, this place. it reminds him of his youth when he lived in a monastery and was happy, honest churn. it was wonderful. you get up early in the morning and make your bed have breakfast, play with your friends, for in the speed in a carefree life that ended when chinese security forces began harassing the monks, they initially tried to take a stand in thought, stood and say on the authorities came every day, putting pressure on us and restricting our freedom and hobbies. so i put up posters to protest and took part in demonstration and skim milk. he says, friends warned him that the police were looking for him that were intended and fled the arbiter, the mon street knows many similar stories. basically they have not full right to really just freedom. so that's maybe if you asking and against the government
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they should put in the gym. we wanted to talk to someone from the chinese embassy and ben. but our interview questions went on onset. jean views, tibetans who have fled to switzerland as opposition activists. china is focused on expanding its economic ties with switzerland. the 2 countries have had a free trade agreement since 2013 bilateral trade has grown steadily since then to switzerland pursuing economic interests while standing up for human rights. the difficult balancing act paid to name and china is becoming increasingly authoritarian and more assertive of economic interest and refugee policy listing. so switzerland needs to respond to that and by more coordinated in its approach. 14, not long ago, tense in went to the chinese embassy himself. he needed papers to confirm his form . to bet. i'm all i went to the chinese embassy,
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just one. to get an id like to hold, but they started arguing with me on the phone. and i felt threatened, screwed the mr. brought the end to see, refuse to give him papers. he still feels the risk from china. this was authorities of not granted him asylum so far and he doesn't know what will happen next. every year we humans produce to to live around 2000000000 tons of rubbish. according to the world bank by 2050, this figure will rise by 70 percent to a shocking $3400000.00 tons per year. waste is literally everywhere. few areas of our planet remain unaffected. what can be done for global ideas? we went to ginger in her room to find out how the secular economy is breathing new life into the desert that the,
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these chickens are engaged in important work. they produce eggs like any other chickens, but with the help of their own, they're also working wonders transforming the desert. this entire area and the city of change out into room is dry and it's barren. there's almost no rain, so it's hardly suitable for farming. green plantation is flourishing mandarin trees, leading with fruit cover, an area of 30 square kilometers. it's all thanks to the chickens and they're resourceful. loaner p most we've been farming in the desert for many years. people thought we were crazy at 1st. obviously you only normally drove fruit and good soil, but today we're producing record numbers of mandarins right here in the middle of the desert. liquor know it's the chickens that have made the
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desert soil 36000000 of them in all. at 1st pasco, marcia was only planning to sell their eggs, but when he found himself ankle deep in excrement, he came up with an idea. why not use it as fertilizer? he answered all the leftover chicken feed to the birds feed on corn. they are quite picky. the she's, this is what's left over here. we used to burn and up or throw it away. but now we use it to produce bio char. and that's the central element in our regenerate, fertilizer. boscoe macias, burns the organic waste in a controlled process called paralysis. it's a centuries old method used by the indigenous peoples of the amazon bio charges rich nutrients and ideal source of food for the trees. but then he adds the chicken
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excrement to, along with a few other ingredients, turning it all into fertilizer pallets. some of them he uses for the mandarin plantation. the rest he sells music, but this circular economy allows us to make everything efficient. but it's really nothing new. it's actually the way that nature work. tonight, i'm going to listen. the principle is simple. resources are used to read as long as possible, saving money and avoiding waste. unlike normal methods. in the capital, lima, the german development agency, g i. c is advising the pool of in environment ministry on how to encourage more businesses to move to a circular economy. the program is financed by the german government international climate initiative level. and i'm very grateful to be part of this project. and
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then for the opportunity to support an initiative like that for pull that up. yeah, it is true people.

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