i live, let's go picking a yeah. let me me. there's always farmers that are pushing to figure out how they can produce better quality. but they're usually the exception. we have farmers here who have great kick. now. i have chocolate makers coming next week who want to buy that account the

normal to fit on so my name is esperanza unit and i am the manager of the agrarian coffee cooperative and go on. tell you. i have been at the co op for 20 in my goals since i joined the cooperative and it was not to be here for so many years. when i told you it was for one year. however, i stayed for the years because we had to investigate last quarter to prove it, but i did want to sell that. so we have joined the fair trade markets and not what we want for the cross chocolate makers who continue to understand us. they are small businesses, and we are as well with small scale producers working through the cooperative learning together. okay. levels us because the market price goes up and down, but sometimes the price is low, that the foreigner simply cuts down the calvin plans benign. and if they continue to be pulled over,

each member has about one or 2 more producers. they are not producing no longer than this group. and we're here at the loin and my team they've, i'm boy, i've been coming here for the last 3 years working with operative, when i make my visit to prove to help them improve their quality. if we can get the installations improved, then our odds are going to go up tremendously. but no matter what material they have in the field, how good or how might be are not doing a good post harvest process if they're not doing good fermentation. slow drawing of the co, that flavor is not going to really come out for the chocolate makers and it's not going to be acceptable for sale to export that, you know,

the beams are fermented they have to be from. otherwise they can be humbled. 90 count the wife's stuff but it's not the for the seats that we're after for whether she works from the from the station we found out each job maker has their own unique methods for these problems to her and other flavors are often added here before bring. ready it into more no, you're chuck ladies. ready to have you never know why all commercial chuckle needs kind of the big industrial guys who normally just burn words and the quality of the be nice and in working and now you know how much time and

cherry takes to make that change. so go for him and enjoy a good chuckle. traveling with dan a neat and ryan. i mean those are all 3 of those guys are, are. so grades are generous when they're their knowledge and so we can't buy a contain luca cow on our own. we're just not big enough to do that. and so working together really is the only way that any of us can, can buy a container loan on our own. i the much more optimistic than i was initially thinking i'd be upon the visit was really

great to hear all the stuff that they've been taking to separate out. been we were talking about what color tarps were going to be best for insulating the boxes overnight. here when it, when it gets pretty cold, we're talking about how many days it should be before you start to see lines in the beam. we're talking about how many days the beans sit in the top boxes, pocket 1st, bags for storing what cow. and these are sort of the nuanced questions that are really going to like that are really gonna push this forward and take them to, to a new level and better help me understand what the ideal way for them to process is going to be looking at putting really good morning like carries of fruit and like a lot of food. it comes in a lot of different saying to think careful, argue about this all the time. but there are roughly 11 different varieties of

count. most of the research up and, you know, having for kids and finding, including the in these, these risks, industrial capital at makers, one more yield with less focus and labor craft chuckle makers are trying to push back to keep well, they're right with their interesting flavor profile. for life and supported parameters in basin, it contains the largest amount of url and by right, which will it's many scientists to believe that old guy could have originated from your rem wildcat. cow. always counting the rain but i didn't rain forest or these early mariah cal does. it's when it's growing under the rain forest canopy in the shade of the already history tree. this makes it such a great crowd because like many other fruit, vegetables in lifestyle,

you don't need to cut down. there are regional range for $3.00 to $4.00 bytes. yeah. somebody was on the list of the chocolate makers, are asking about the history of this tree. and if you knew where this material came from, who grew it and how it happened? where the seed came from? the last me yes, it was brought from the wild and that seed was planted here. hey, it's hard to say who planted it. we don't really know. he could have been we don't really know. they want to know who planted it and when this one here is about 10 years. and so anytime i arrive on a sourcing especially improve, there's always this incredible energy going in. and i get together with the other talk makers, lane ryan, and not one tud straw. hat

down and telling people like this is how you need to do this. can you do? why? and i'm going to make you the chocolate growers in the world. i think as a crap shot, the industry we have a lot of work to do to build infrastructure, to support the farmers here. it's not just one group or one person that there, you know, we are the sort of faith of potentially an enormous market for them. so the amazon is bio diverse place on earth is also the place where we have a huge forest there which are helping us and maintain carbon dioxide from being released into the atmosphere. if we were to pick the worst place on earth grow

plantation crops, it would be here in the us is the 30th all of the areas around what used to be the forum. so bumper today. so they are huge lanes without tree. and the trees have been lost not being there for the minor forest thing. all of the trees can be cut down. they continue doing it because there is a good price to be able to demand thing more pineapple thing pineapple has a lot of health benefits. now they're going to be in the final feels of spreading some more areas here, which is causing deforestation. is causing a logical imbalance. hearing me with a cow, we are trying to recuperate some humidity in this environment. it is so dry that will eventually end up being a death at all. but by growing a cow,

we are trying to avoid this. because content is from the forest. it is native, the forest. it's monday. well, i, there are at least 300000 deforest detectives that don't have any economic value anymore. so these areas need to be re forested within a forestry system. which tech, how plays the primary role when cow works well? and as far as 3 systems as of 2 or 3 years ago, we have approximately 25000 productive hector's in the early region. 14, i use i. good. yes. lowering nicely though. a lot of flower. no more. we don't

know what we don't want to knock them down. it could be that this one is the bad. it could be this one isn't right. we don't think this one is ready. we want bright yellow was mighty, you know, if you call her father or you look at this s and know and whereas the tree, the tree is over there on the hill loma yeah. how beautiful need this is the native cow here. this is we brought in. that's right. and so these are the seeds. i've been asking my dad to bring some more. i get it to me. in a lot of these communities they used to live much more no matic they. they were coming from different areas and they kind of settled in this region. a lot of them just in the last 20 years or so it's, let's get in with their mass. oh,

[000:00:00;00] i love 2 of those days. i. i very 40 to 43. i don't know how many i know we're starting another. i don't know exactly. what can we afford?

for me. we need to get 25 so that we can fill a stock. that's 1st priority. when we're getting more than 20 exact, we've got, we've got a sample of a single writing here, which is awesome. me got another one of them over here i. we had enough to produce a sample of this single variety table from here, which is fantastic. we've been trying to get it now for the last couple of weeks and haven't had, haven't come on a tree with enough fun. ah,

ah, the lease is our main variety. and then this one, i don't know what we're going to get. that's not a very big harvest. go back i 3, when you get german age and if

not, how much can be good to go back out of the in the us. i mean, so the got a little too hot sitting on the balcony in july, but there wasn't much of a choice. that's what we had. so we're looking at a decrease in the sugars in the pulp. and we're looking at the been starting to oxidize some of them or even starting to germinate. and to top it off the cow that was come in today to the for mentary here is not coming until tomorrow. so we have to let these sit out for another 12 at least 12 hours. right now it doesn't look good. and that sort of in the fema strip is that we

just really don't know until we get somewhere. and once again, we are arriving somewhere else with our samples. we can't do the thing that we want to do. first step is to get them up here for training and maybe the next. that's like the next step to take. can steve identify somebody on the ground, you can come up here for a training and see a real fermentation process in operation. and then take that knowledge back and implemented on the ground. i think that's a great for me. hey, ryan, don't. i'm not much cool. what that these are, are my big like out of the things that at least we can maybe get something out. yeah,

we can at least maybe do a growth. so we got to say how many pounds, i don't know like less than a lot less than i thought. so this one is from the woman who at the back to be bought. okay. and these are the ones that we fall, harvest from the tree, like in the coming over. yeah. there we go. good salary and you know, walk away from the self go a lot going on. not our big would we knew it was really quickly. yeah. good. well, at the end of the day, like what rock is trying to do? i think what a lot of other craft committees are trying to do is we're trying to do business.

and one of the messages that we want to get out there is that business can be done in a way in which of benefits everyone in the, in a way in which everyone involved feels like they're respected. and part of the process i guess. and then someone able to see through the park and you see that in the way a lot of people try to do good in some of the places that i visit where it's not it's not a 100 percent about about helping people or about necessarily doing good but occasionally comes from place of

guilt or a place of self fulfillment. i don't really think that to me it's really about that. it's about it's about exposing like a system that that people have bought into. and then people have sort of turned a blind, blind eye to in the attempt to be able to justify the way in which they live.

your museum. feel sad because i work so hard just to be able to eat that appointment. but there are times that i feel happy because i know how to work. but while working on the land, so you can still study. i want to go daddy international business. when wheeling legit again, you can't wait for it. but as he'll know, him by the way, what i would like to do i'm, when i'm done with that, i would like to come back, can't be an agronomist. he got out on me and given him to check my mccormick, i will make it a lot when i leave i promise. i will only come back one or 2 days at a time. but i will be very sad to go but that's why i wanted to be in atlanta message,

or whatever. my cell phone on me, me, me, are you going to be? i did, i did talk to it. we're really excited that we were able to for some these beans out of there because the trip prior we weren't actually able to to pull any of these pods or beads out of there. so and hopefully they make amazing chocolate and we can let the farmers know

that that, hey, in the back of your yard, you have these trees that can produce some of the best chocolate that we've ever made. and we're crossing our fingers and hoping that it actually does make amazing chocolate. these are from. 1 trees that are over a 100 year old, where no one in the community remember where they came from. cocoa trees typically only group for about 20 years. the fact that these are brooding, 8090 a 100 years old, means that they're likely pretty productive. so we're going to take 2 different type talk, take some notes or talk a little bit about what you paid and whether or not you think that the potential for rocket the this represents about like 8590 pounds of pod. you can tell that we like preserved a lot of flavors. we didn't want to like overestimate,

so you can't say of the of the number of i don't have really similarity, but this is the deeper which yeah, yeah, for sure. i could use this every day, but this is more interesting. yeah. i mean, is this something that you guys would want to iraq? oh, like spend time and energy and finances in trying to get these being the market trying to get them into our factory to use on a more consistent basis. yeah, i mean, i think we didn't use a disappointing and the whole purpose of pasting it is so that we can back that up actually with actual interest intervenes instead of be like, oh, plant, these are great. now we actually know that we can go back down there, talk to the people that we met with, let them know, hey, the chocolate from the old trees. you have really,

really good and it's really important. they don't cut these trees down. or there was a good awards or a go as far as a finalist and they weren't there. we're gonna start here in a little bit and we'll find out it was actually a winner. words is an annual recognition as the top producers of small prices, food and a lot of different categories. looking for sustainability and transparency. and then in the supply chain. and on the way over elaine and i were talking about camping on the robot, the river in esperanza, the farmers go. fever right now is a big down in columbia somewhere, probably camping in the rain for us looking for the account. and there are so many steps in so many people involved in the 3 year long process to get here that just

be nominated as great and hopefully help them build that story and bring more awareness to everything that goes into making a bar of chocolate. and then winning would obviously be great them and it is again, it's chocolate bar. but i think the whole point is that if we're not making chocolate just because it's chocolate, it's really about the people that are involved in it. and there's so many people that were involved in making this bar. and so, you know, i just feel like we're here on the happen in the end of the

me ah ah, ah, we've done a lot of work. you know, i'm realistic about the amount of impact that we're able to make and i'm

fearful for the destruction that's going on in these areas where we're not able to enough. so we have to, i think really celebrate the successes that we have, but not lose sight of the fact that there's an urgent need for us to do more. ah, ah, i choose ah

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