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ariel. absolutely not. the future wars starts june tenths on the news . this is the news slide from berlin. pope francis rejects the resignation of a senior german church leader. cardinal ryan r. marks has offered to quit as archbishop of munich saying he shared responsibility for the church and handling of the pope says he must stay in office . also coming up, joe biden says he's ready to confront prussia us presents from promises
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a tough response. frushell rational democracies. he's in the united kingdom to meet with world leaders on his 1st trip since taking off and the berlin film festival is back. this year's value knowledge is the 1st ever take face under the stung as an open asset ration of it. and i will take a look at what's on the moon and sun, a line in an amazing eclipse. people in the northern hemisphere to the rest. phenomenal events show you the highlight. ah, i'm also welcome to the program. but francis has refused to accept the resignation of one of germany's top catholic bishops of the handling of sex abuse scandal.
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cardinal monks offered his resignation in a letter to the pope. last week of munich said he had a shared responsibility for what he called a catastrophe. of sexual abuse by mark has not accused of committing abuse himself . studies found that nearly 4000 children, most of the boys were sexually assaulted by gentle clergymen between 946-2040 w. as religious affairs corresponded, much in god joins as now for more of this story. martin put this into perspective for us. why has the pope refused carbon a marxist resignation? well, i mean, it's very hard to say why i mean, what are the reasons behind what is quite clear is that in terms of, you know, what was very, very, very big public relations stunned. we might call it, i mean, it was really a very big deal. we could go, this can only be rid of to review the sense that we're talking about offering
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a resignation where of last week it really looked like, you know, you were really just presenting nation closing the door in a position of power. now what we have with the pope essentially saying, no, i mean you're going to stay where, where you are. of course, it's hard to say why, but need has a lot to do with integrity at the end of this part of the game if it's clearly noted and end. and now it is for cardinal marks, essentially to say something because it's obviously can not be the last word. so what could be the next step then for the archbishop of munich, he's one of the catholic church, most senior figures, an unknown liberal cleric. it's really very, very difficult to say and we should underline that. everything here is speculation . i mean, mainly because the story, i mean it's a pretty dramatic story. and this is a dramatic twist in already dramatic story. but i think that we can expect when of
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a few things, we can expect simply mark to go back from where we came from, where he came from, which is a permanent position and continue his job without basically addressing the response of the boat. that would be very, very strange, particularly because he's a very important public figure. and because a lot of what he brought to the table, i mean what was including his letter of resignation had lot to do with the sexual abuse scandal and essentially a declaration of a broad cover. the next question would be whether you would take a more senior or you offer more senior position to actually deal with the things that he has expressed the satisfaction with that it's not something that you know, it's clear, but that could be one way in which the vatican tried to essentially go over the qualms and the reservations expressed by marks in his and his letter. the other thing that obviously is on the table as well, is it clear break within or
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a clear clear tension within the catholic church of germany, in which a very, very conservative figure like realty in colon, who has been under great pressure, has refused to resign. and marx, who has not been accused of any kind of missteps or any kind of abuse, has actually taken the resignation of saying the date of the church is such that the only way to actually move forward is search for actually for me to resign. so this tension i think will be brought back to, to, to be so i will be brought back to, to the top of the agenda. i can just does this situation, is that, is this a german problem or does it point to a wider crisis of the catholic church? well, i mean, last week, the american, the american specialized media was a bus with the question as to what was next for march. and what was he going to be offered? obviously, he's not a household name in the us or in the rest of the catholic world. in the way that it
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is in germany because he's also important public figure. nonetheless, he's a powerhouse within progressive and reform, this wing of the church. and he has is very close relation with the pope. and he has a massive footprint in, by taking politics over the last 5 or 6 years. our religious corresponded mountain, got them berlin. thank you martin. you're welcome. joe biden is kicking off his 1st global to as president. he's in the united kingdom. well, meet with prime minister board johnson will hear more about his agenda from our correspondent in a moment. but 1st here's how biden began his trip with a message of strong support for his allies and a warning for russia. touching down the u. k. on emission to reset the american relations with the world on his 1st trip abroad since taking office. president joe biden has
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a pact itinerary. the g 7 summit is followed by a nato meeting you talks and a face to face with russian president vladimir putin. from america 1st to ladies, 1st, the president set himself apart from his predecessor, even before stepping up to the microphone, his wife jill, giving the opening remarks to the us troops stationed at the base as the daughter of a navy, signalman in world war 2. and the mother of a major who was in the delaware army national guard and served a year in iraq. and now as your 1st lady, i was so proud to be here with all of you to begin our 1st overseas trip. went by and did eventually speak, his message was clear at every point along the way. we're going to make it clear that the united states is back and democracies of the world are standing together
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to tackle the toughest challenges and the issues that matter most to our future that we're committed to, lady was strength, defending our values and delivery for our people the president had strong words the potent to head into the g 7 then to the nato ministerial, and then to meet with mr. to let him know what i want him to know. trump had been unwilling to stand up to russia and was accused of pandering to autocrats biden left little doubt that those days are over. united, united states will respond in a robust and meaningful way when the russian government engages and harmful activities. we've already demonstrated that i'm going to communicate that there are consequences relying for violating the sovereignty of democracies in the united
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states in europe and elsewhere. having laid down a marker at the start of his whirlwind tour, biden has left both allies and adversary's with little doubt of what to expect to find out from london correspondence. big in moscow is covering this visit and joins us now from cobb and bay and cornwall. where the president will meet with british prime minister bruce johnson today, and where the g 7 lead us will gather tomorrow. big president biden's kicking off his to the u. k. what's the, his priority that well, president biden wants to re establish leadership of the us in areas such as climate change and also when it comes to taxing the vaccine. now he is meeting boris johnson, the u. k prime minister and when it comes to the passionate relationship, we can speculate that maybe this meeting might be
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a little tense because previously you, president biden had compared for johnson to donald trump. and he said he was an emotional and physical clone of for his trump. so that might not be so well when it comes to, well, the chemistry between the 2 leaders. but then again, both leaders need to make this g 7 summit a success. so we can assume that somehow they will be able to make amends. so with the u. k no longer in inside the european union do us british relations these special relationship need to make over well, president biden is very much a multi lateral as much in contrast was predisposed. donald trump, who actually liked briggs it now briggs, it might be a bit of a shadow over these, this meeting between the 2 leaders. because just at this moment when the meeting in the k hit and cornwell, there is
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a route between the u. k. and the european union about border checks at the irish border. it's about meat products and, and other other products that need to be checked at the border. and the you can do, you are practically at loggerheads, say president biden, being against threats and also very much identifying as on the side of the european union. he always stresses that he's iris. he is probably going to rebuke for his johnson when it comes to the issue of, of breakfast, and also specifically of this problem at the northern irish border. so biden has delivered as we had some pointed remarks at the start of his to this to this to he will need to weigh the g 7 with nato leaders with you and with putting what else can we expect
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while we just expect that generally, this will be a show of democracy and of coming together of like mind the democracies of liberal countries and making this an attractive option for 4 countries across the world. really. so president biden will try to find common ground when it comes to foreign policy issues. for example, russia is going to be discussed by the leaders, but also china is going to be as important topic and there are more divergent views on china with in the g 7. so generally trying to get the countries on board and have a united present the united front of west and liberal democracies w correspond a big monster on campus bay with a g 7 summit will take place. thank you. big to have a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. a building collapse in the indian city of mom by and has killed at least 11 people, including 8 children. authorities say more people could be trapped under the rubble
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. wednesday was the 1st day of monsoon, right. building collapses in moon by are not uncommon during the rainy season. well as large as meat processing company, j. b. s. as its paid a ransom of $11000000.00 during a cyber attack. earlier this month, the attack interrupted capital for trad us plants that threatened to disrupt the food supply chain. it was an earlier cyber attack on the colonial gas pipeline, f. b i. as we covered, most of the ransom paid in that case, child labor has risen for the 1st time in 20 years. the united nations, 160000000 children around the world, a forced to work more than half a younger than 12. the un is warning that the pandemic could push millions more into labor. european union has condemned the russian courts decision to ban organizations connected to the position leader alexander vonnie. judges and moscow
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declared the groups to be extremist, ruling bonds, people associate associated with these groups from running for public office number . thank you so much. you're watching the w still to come. one benefit this year is a long delayed, well in international film festival. and that of a winter event, it's now outdoor extravaganza will look once on the big screen 1st, in some countries, the corona virus seems to be slowly getting under control, but elsewhere it's still raging. india just recorded the world's highest every single day. death toll from colbert 19 reported more than 6024 hour period after revising its figures. even so billy has started the ease restrictions and migrant workers are returning to the city. desperate to an a living by the city may not have enough jobs to support them. the daily week. laborers gather
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here every morning to find work. do you all usually is one of them. he's an unskilled migrant laborer who has been working in the informal sector in the capital for almost 6 years. but times are tough for him. he was left without any work when he went into lockdown after the city was hit by the 2nd leave of over 19 i'm we're barely getting any work. there is so much unemployment. many of our labors also come back from the villages the waiting for a job every day, but there just isn't enough work. your guest says he finds casual work only one or 2 days a week. hardly enough to make a living. others have had better luck. peace and john on me is a migrant worker who skills as a mason have landed him a job at a construction site. we're facing a very difficult time, but it work is not like
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a regular white collar jump, which is hard to find. as things open up in construction starts, we will get some small jobs because we know the work boundary says that if there is another major disruption from a 3rd wave, he would have to take loans to survive. as the city begins to open up again with some economic activities, review me many also migrant workers have made their way back into the city and hope to find the world. but still not much is coming. and according to a new study, it's not being fall, especially with the suffering yet again. but millions of people in the country have lost their job, and the all been unemployment rate have shot up the economist. but this thing says the problem is much bigger. he says that many migrant workers are choosing not to come back at all and are dropping out of the workforce because this the few opportunities of finding employment. and he thinks any recovery will take time.
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it's not though why the cycle would determine the economic type of it is basically the larger effect of the 1st we've still lingering on. and it will compound with the 2nd 3rd and determine possibly get into a bigger effect. it will take longer time for the economy to, for the labor market, for the employment needs to come to the nominal or non gauge. the unskilled worker remembers how last the millions were left. jobless during the national lockdown. some of them never work again. he feels that the theme the happened to him was i'm thinking that if i don't get work soon, i'll go back to my village and it looks like i might have to just seems to be no work right now. it was another day with no job for you. he will be back again at the same spot tomorrow morning waiting for work. but he doesn't know how much longer he can hold out. a back here in germany. cultural life is
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slowly coming back after months of lockdown was normally billions. top event in the middle of winter is now taking place as an outdoor celebration bell in international film festival. i've already had it out. it's trophies, the golden baz, an online competition. and our audience is, can also see the entries on the thumb skies. berlin's museum island is being turned into a giant open s cinema 1st on the bill. the more attain in jodie foster stars as a lawyer defending a suspect being held at guantanamo bay. after $911.00. there will be 3 names on the lawsuit. united states of america, donald rumsfeld, and george w bush like a list is jodie foster won't be here in person because of travel restrictions. instead, it's a burly, not for the fans. i think we all need
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a little bit of hope and happiness. this event comes after a very long, dark moment and made the most important thing for us is really to give the feeling that it's possible to stay together. and without any fears, it's all different this year, outdoor screenings only, and the berlin bears are already awarded. the pandemic and the rise of screaming, changing all the rooms on this is rather different bill in a film festival. i'm joined by resident movie buff called rock rock. so can you just scott, finally about in the, in the summer, but without the awards? what can we do? is this for berlin? i think it is quite significant both for billy and i would even say for the whole
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sort of film industry. i mean, last night i was at the opening ceremony and other red carpet ready, coffee thrilled with carpet. there's, it's all open air, so it's not inside little theaters, but it's an open air theaters, but it's large groups of people watching movies together on the big screen. and that's something we really haven't had for almost a year or more. you know, we've all been locked in our little caves at home watching films on, but by the warm light of our laptop to be able to do this again in a sort of public celebration is a really significant moment. and i thought it incredibly, incredibly moving. i was talking to one actor last night was on the red carpet and said, this feels like coming out of hibernation. we're finally returning to life again. returning to the movie, it's a very common sentiment right now about the films themselves. what can the public look forward to the filter actually phenomenal they were shown online in the online competition in march. i seen all of them. we have some big hollywood gums like the more attaining which which screened last night with jodie foster been to come back, but i like some of the more arcos domes that are on display,
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including the one that won the golden beer, which i definitely recommend crazy movie for romania, which is the crazy title called a bank, bad luck banging or loony porn. it's a sort of satire of basically the year that's gone by incredibly, a powerful movie and a real sort of breath of fresh air after this incredibly difficult year that we've all been talking about this this difficult here, berlin's culture minister because this has been not a new start for culture, the pandemic has really taken this all on the, on the film industry. how bad was it here? of incredibly badly heck, i mean, particularly the cinema which had been more or less shot for almost a year with just a little point where they're able to be open. and in germany, most of the cinema owners are sort of mom and pop operations, one or 2 cinemas. they incredibly hard yet, and they can't take a year with a revenue. for the moment the government has come in and sort of supported them and carried them on. now things are starting to reopen, but the big question is, when they reopen, will people come back to the cinemas in force or what have they gone out of the habit of going to the center was having had such
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a long break and that's going to be really key in is seeing whether or not cinema here in germany and around the world really can recover and bounce back, or whether there will be a really long lasting damage from this pandemic. so 1st, barely, not in the summer. normally it's a wind event. is it, is it likely that it could be moved into the summer? i had love it. i mean it's great. i was on the red carpet last night, not freezing. you know, under the beautiful blue sky. it's actually though unlikely, because the billing ever happens in the winter to be before the oscars to be sort of fit nicely into the international film calendar. typically in the summer, in early summer in may, the cam film festival it berlin was to happen in an open air festival in june. and they wouldn't get any good films because they would all go to can. so i think this is probably going to be a one off, but i was talking to the organizers last night and they said it goes over. well, maybe we could start introducing some special summer events as a regular feature because i think this type of event under the open sky with a great berlin audience is phenomenal. and i hope hope it continues hope this isn't
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the one and last time i hope so. sounds like a lot of fun. thank you. scott rocks room from stars on the screen to stars in the sky. people and parts of the northern hemisphere have been treated to a solar eclipse. the event is known as an angela, or ring of fire cliffs. only people in remote areas of eastern canada, greenland and siberia, were able to see it in full. but many others were able to see it as a partial eclipse, where the moon doesn't cover the sun completely. and hits tell us more about this phenomenon is matthew caput. she's a mixer. ologist then journalist for the washington post and joins us from washington. d. c. matthew, tell us have you been able to get a good look at this partial eclipse yet? yeah, i was very 4, so we're actually forecasting cloud cover up until the last minute, but lifted, right. the right time we got to 55 percent equipped here in d. c. meeting the moon, only partially the sun. elsewhere in the u. s. got 80 percent and bottling your end
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of the tip of me. when you go to canada, you other places up there in nor non terry hall and the husband day. they got a full annual reading fire. meaning, the moon isn't really close enough to earth to fully lock the sun is actually what we call average a little farther away or you can't walk with them, but it's fully gulf by the sun leading that brilliant fire is something amazing. lots of few, both of them have the chance to see it. well, the cell is only being partially obscured there by the moon. it's never a good idea to look straight at the sun. is it even now? that's why we've been talking politicians doing that a couple years ago in the state and we had a partial with us here in dc. fortunately, i think a lot of folks learned after 2017 not do that, but it is dangerous. even at sunrise, the kind of glass you just can't do it, you can only take your glasses off during a total solar eclipse when the movies close enough to fully block the storm. and during that next one back on december, 4th, 2021. during that you actually could see the sun's atmosphere. so something really cool coming up a later this year, only visible in antarctica,
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but still what we saw this morning was pretty neat, especially for people who don't get a chance to see it. all that awesome. explain to us who mentioned it earlier briefly, but how does this angela eclipse really as different from other eclipses? yeah, very much so. so there are 2 kinds of really popular place of solar eclipse as you can see, the 1st in the annual or that's what we're seeing today is what happens when you have the moon blocked the sun, but the moon isn't close enough to earth. remember that that is $400.00 times. why? farther away? so the sort of the moon look roughly the same size and our sky, but sometimes the moon will farther away, is too small to fully cover the sun reading that bring the sunlight around. so it doesn't get dark, you do see that rain, but you have to wear your glasses. whereas every so often we get a total solar eclipse. when the moon is close enough, big enough in earth guys to block sun for up to about 7 and a half minutes in a few places. and that is just on the world. seeing you so far down until the last year. solar eclipse. and i can tell you that is a once in
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a lifetime experience to be in the moon shadow is the day go to night and to see the sun's milky white corona spreading millions of kilometers into space. as one corona, we don't mind seeing at the moment, just briefly tell me you said that the total solar eclipse is very rare. how rare is this type that we're seeing today? which is about every 18 months 24 months. so it's one nice thing that you get seen every couple of years. unfortunately, they are look, live enough, and most folks won't get to see them unless they travel. i had originally plan b canada. unfortunately, due to corona bar concerned the border so close, but hopefully next time the next one is on april 20th 2043. i'll try to i really can all look forward to that one. matthew, compared to journalists and solar eclipse. and phoebe asked, thanks for being with us. thank you. you watching the news he has a quick reminder of our top story. for francis has refused to accept the resignation of one of germany's top catholic bishops, cardinal and
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a half months offered to quit. as our bishop of munich, he said he shared responsibility for the church handling of sex abuse scandals. though he wasn't accused of any wrongdoing himself. your democracy is in distress. says the counselor here are coming up tim sebastian, off it's human rights official. what went wrong that some conflicts don't right off the i've got the the me the news
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news news. the news, the news into the conflict with tim sebastian because of europe has a student, blazes, human rights and democracy in europe. and it makes unpleasantly deployed decided to question the leading official to protect me out of commission if human rights as opposed to what is suspect conflict
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a spotlight on racially motivated police. things like marriage is being legalized in more and more countries, discrimination, inequality or part of everyday life. for many, we ask why? because the life diversity make up your own mind the w need for mines the on many occasions i made some 5 powerful people, very angry, but you don't shame them into changing their behavior though. do you, commissioner for human rights and my mandate is very clear. europe has almost nothing to teach the rest of the world about human rights. it is not like advice. this is not easy. the council of europe has student life is verdict on human rights and democracy in europe. and it makes unpleasant reading. europe's democratic
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environment and institutions that says are in neutrally reinforcing, decline. we talked a lot about democracy and human rights on this program for the good time, holding politicians to account for actions for the peace when danger of those rights. but the situation is now so critical, always decided to question a leading official is trying to protect human rights about why that protection is famous. dounia me out of it is commissioner for human rights to the counselor, and she's always been out of stuff. what is it gone so spectacularly wrong? the dounia may out of edge welcome to comfort zone. thank you. 2 months ago you press the emergency button on human rights in europe. you said 2020 had been a disastrous year for those rights on the continent. one of the bleakest
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assessments to be heard for a long time. do you think anybody is listening to your warning? well, i hope so. it is something that is affecting us all, no matter which part of the world. and if this is not a moment for all government in europe and beyond, to take a long, hard look in the mirror and realize how important it is that we move forward in a different way than we be moving until now, before this unprecedented time, we are all facing what people are listening because plenty of your warnings in the past have fallen on deaf ears. one example the issue of migrant abuse in hungry as far back as 2019. you said this needed to be addressed as a matter of urgency. nothing was done, gary and continued pushing back,
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migrants across the border with serbia. my question is, why do you think you lack the personal authority to change the minds of people who do these things? who commit these violations or is hungry a last cause? well, i would not say that the hungary law called 1st support because area, because of people that rely on the protection of the convention. when it comes to my personal influence and the impact, the time will tell, i cannot change the government. i cannot play to be in a position. but i can use something that is the most powerful tool in my, to the commissioner, which is my voice. giving my voice, the voiceless, making sure that human rights violations are documented. and this is something that is over the i would say extremely important. the impact can be measured in different ways,
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but many are indifferent. international organizations have been saying for years about gary and situation and also in situation of many other countries that are moving in a very direction. so freedom of media, for example, comes to my mind already in 2010 in a different position. i warns about social media and i said this is going to mirror and it's happening right now. nevertheless, we should not be, but we should continue warnings and using all the tools that we have our disposal and ultimately to be a decision of hunger young and also the government that should comply with the international law and standard when it gives just hungry is it there are plenty of states that are involved in these violations. you often hear the claim that human rights must be sacrificed for the sake of protecting national or european
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boundaries. what do you tell those governments which, which advance that argument? i totally disagree with this. i think this is a wrong path and wrong way, but equally up to everything that you wrote that the continent experienced in the last decade, the 70 years ago when the organizational councils, europe was established. this is not the way to protect multilateralism. muslims, them approved to be extremely important, not only for democratic countries, but also countries that are trying to move forward some democratic order. and you know, i come from south april from booking and had to go up. and i know how it is important to move forward and recognize the international issues at the same time, of course, protecting culture tradition, but not using it as an excuse not to protect human rights. this is wrong. and
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because of this view, on many occasions, i made some by powerful people, very angry, which in a ways part of mine, i don't make them angry, but you don't shame them into changing their behavior though. do you? well, i've tried to shame my name them, but then at the end, you know, it really depends on the government for date or do. as i said, i cannot, i'm not an opposition. political position. i'm commissioner for human rights. and my mandate is very clear. it was created by those states in order to be mine. it is quite a young institution, 20 years establishment, but it's also quite unique because it is the economist independence. and it is up to the commissioner to decide which direction to grow the attention and to call for respect of human rights. of course, i agree with you. it is not black and white. this is not easy. the will don't like to see results either without commission. i understand the key to the effective
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functioning of the council is the binding commitment, supposedly, of member countries to implement decisions of the european court of human rights. that too has been a significant failure, hasn't it? your own figures show it as of january this year, a staggering 45 percent of the leading judgments from the court, finalized in the last 10 years have not been implemented. that's a shocking figure, isn't it? it is shocking, feebly, but at a time we also need to recognize that many decision, you know, they were implemented and there are states that still do honor their commitments. this is quite extraordinary what we are facing at the moment. and here i can just mention case is that texting people i can really refer to the case of mine, carla,
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who i visited the prison 2 years ago. he's still in prison even though there is a judgement from the board of human rights. and certainly government is not implementing extremely important judgment. nobody in russia is another. i want you to come on and i want to talk about russia and about in the, in, in a moment. but, but these rulings are your most important tool for correcting injustice and governments are throwing huge numbers of them in the been and my question is, if, if that doesn't work, and that's your major lever, your major mechanism for righting wrongs. what have you got left? i think it's not correct there. it's fun of the mechanisms. of course it is extremely important. fine, i can always present 3rd party intervention like i did in many of the cases that we already mention, but then it is also monthly, you know,
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with the states and also the committee of ministers, of the council of europe. that is monitoring execution of the judgments of the supreme court of human rights. for me, there are other tools at my disposal, bilateral discussions, but also seeking access to presents in order to really try to understand the situation that in some cases, extremely complex. but i agree with you that the, the fusion of the judgment of your appeal court of human rights is a key. and that is something that as the organization we need to, to do more, more needs to be done on the political level. we need more, you know, governments that are willing to, to name the stage that are not really to be a document. they seem to be in short supply. those governments you, you have pointed out the cove. it because the panoramic is accelerated,
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the decline of democracy in europe with governments acquiring special powers that have served to erode the checks and balances on them. but this process has been under way for a long time, as you said on april 21st commitment to upholding human rights values has been faltering all over the continent for several years. so during those years, there should have been time to stop the slide. now. why wasn't the intervention done much, much earlier, when the pattern was seen and identified? well, that is the question of them hand dollar a for all of us to answer and also lost our self by the facing situation. now, i just want to should, should germany, france, u k. i mean, they will claim to value human. right? i have done most of the states should have done more. but when it comes to human rights protection, i would say, you know, based on my career and everything,
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i did not as a sprint is it is america. i would say it is difficult to to the results results required time. but i think the commitment is a p here, and i don't have time do they do new me out of it's a lot of big living in a pulling conditions and poorly human rights abuse and all the many visiting many. but they're also results only yesterday i learned about decision by the check parliament to compensate roma. women that suffered sterilization in the ninety's, which was part of my work and engagement parliament and the government. justice is also very slow, but it is important that we see. and i agree with you, there are many, many parts of marginalized parts of the society that are waiting for impacts and
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waiting for their health for, for the help from isn't it, isn't it true, commission of that business in a way is to blame for this faltering commitment that you've spoken about this idea, for instance, that germany always pushes change through trade. you get the trade, but in terms of human rights, nothing changes. does it look at the deals with china and rough russia? no leverage human rights whatsoever. this was especially true of the controversial note stream to gas deal with russia. no human rights considerations were allowed to get in the way of that word that this is, this is a lost opportunity, isn't it? the push human rights? of course, each time of human rights are not in the center of any kind of discussions. we fade and be moved backwards. but the same time, i think this should also be assigned to all parts of working in the right area. not
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to really of the, in a way ignorance for these happenings. of course we do follow everything my work and my mandate gives me, you know, many opportunities to raise these questions with the governments, with civil society in many of the state. and for me, dialogue is a p as well, but also the same time, you know why diplomacy has to get some, with the dialogue, has to get somewhere, doesn't it? and looking at your report, europe has almost nothing to teach the rest of the world about human rights. does it? you said in contemporary europe, human rights defenders are killed. abducted jailed harris. the space for civil society when those democratic institutions are dismantled, independent judges removed. journalists are silenced by pointing,
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though that you've effectively demolished the idea that europe is some kind of beacon of human rights, haven't you? it isn't. it isn't anymore than what i would still say that it is. there are many things that we should not take for granted and forgot that, you know, millions of people have become free from oppression, poverty, free to live. there was so it's not like a bite and you just portrayed europe much 15 years of steady decline, of observance of human rights and democratic principles. that's nothing to be proud of. is it? no, that's nothing to be proud of. but as i said, there are still examples of government, you know, really accepting refugees doing great things for human. right. you, you mentioned russia and it's take a state that doesn't appear to be committed to those rights like o member countries. russia agreed to be bound by the rulings of the european court
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of human rights. but in the case of the opposition leader elect saying the boundary which you mentioned earlier. russia has clearly felt that the orders of the court hasn't that the court said in february, nevada, and they should be temporary released from jail because the government couldn't provide sufficient safeguards for his life and health rushes. justice minister called the ruling unenforceable and threw it in the been where does that leave you? well, this is a clear disregard of human rights and international obligations about the case is emblematic case. this also shows that beneath, you know, there are many more problems like a lack of independent judiciary in russia. human rights abuses in chechnya, lack of investigation, repression of descent and harass mental human rights defenders. so it's not just about just fun case.

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