at frankfurt airport city managed by from board o 3. the news news alive from berlin, a medical emergency at the european football championship, denmark's christian eric's and collapse is on the field in the middle of a match. or from his hospital that he tells teammate the game, must go on. look at the latest on his condition. also coming, i want to show a show of unity at the g 7 summit in britain as leaders of rich democracy. they

must work together to offer the world an alternative to chinese global. and the woman who hope to read germany, the green part officially name alaina barebones as a 1st ever candidate for the chancellor ahead of september's election. ah, ah. hello enquire richardson a very warm welcome to the show. we begin with some news from the european soccer championship, denmark's christian eric and is said to be awake and in stable condition in hospital after he collapsed on the pitcher during the match against finland. and copenhagen and medical crew was immediately called in. they gave them midfielder chest compressions and were able to revive him. again was suspended, but was presumed at the request of both teams with a denmark going on to louis, one no, well mark oregon from the dw sport that joins me now for more. more i was surprised

to hear that the game in fact, resumed so quickly what was to make of that. we were all astonished here, and i think that the whole european football base fung base was astonished to hear that for game. we're not all maybe resumed that, but so soon very evening. and it seems to be a good sign in terms of how christian erickson is doing. we have that he apparently contacted his teammates via face time from his hospital bed and basically gave his blessing. and that they would go ahead and do a for the governing body of european football. they say the requests were made by players of both teams. and that was why the agreed to, to restart the game. but very surprising. and the game did go on with alex and blessing, but the friends hadn't read the script that denmark should go on and when he would have been a happier ending, wouldn't have it. let's take it back. i mean, what exactly happened with ericsson on the pitch? it was a very innocuous incident. clearly it was used with them for through the through and was receiving the ball from through and on. fell to the grounds. immediate

concern as players this, the mist form, the cordon around them, as we can see, protected him from the view of the camera and very emotional scene. some are crying somewhere, praying am and the different different beliefs are brought on and he's given treatment on the field. and thankfully it was, he was awake by the time it come off the field. so and then obviously seems to be recovering. and he's in a stable condition, the dentistry both the association of treated and he's the rigs hosted to let and copenhagen, which is a specialized hospital getting the very best treatment available in copenhagen. so fantastic news for the team and found the like, i'm sure, i mean, the whole incident was so shocking those images. but have we seen something like this before on a football pitch? we have seen it before, sadly. and it seems to be slightly modern phenomena and everything in the 21st century. and one of the, one of the most infamous ones was for brief, new amber who was playing for bolton against them in england in 2012. the collapse

from the pitch was technically dead for 70 minutes before being revived. so luckily we didn't get to that stage tonight. and so that was, that was a huge concern bike then for basement lumber, actually tweeted his, his support and simply please god that he was praying for for christian ethics. and so his present been answered and we were christian ericsson, all the best have us, mark oregon. thank you so much for coming in the studio to talk to turning to other news now and to leaders of the group of 7 wealthy democracies have agreed on a major infrastructure plan and competing with china's a global influence. they spent the 2nd day of the g 7 summit in southwest england focusing on ways to counter the rising influence of authoritarian states and postcard perfect meeting on the beach environmental activists. so we're in the g 7 summit. we'll deliver a little more than pretty pictures in the hotel above the talk is all about bolstering the global economic recovery. after the pandemic, joe biden, once

a year, a p, and to commit to joining a global infrastructure program to balance the investment influence of china. germany's chancellor angle americans support the idea that we know there's a huge need for infrastructure in places like africa within our interest that africa develops. that's economy. we can simply say that china is already taking care of us. rather it is the g 7 desperation to create a positive agenda aimed at the many countries in the world that still have a lot of catching up to pop, threatening to overshadow the display of unity is the in fighting between you leaders and the summit. host, boys, johnson, the british prime ministers threats to override the breakfast agreements. terms on trade flows to northern ireland was the subject of several bilateral talks. johnson was kept awaiting by french president emmanuel mccall, who are vibe with strong words threatening consequences. if the u. k. fail to abide

by the breakfast treaties, customs rules. the prime minister was equally forthright, and he had comments to the pressed, the private g. c, u. k. to uphold the territorial integrity of the united kingdom. that's what we're going to do. we'll do whatever it takes to ensure that the g 7 leaders have been joined by guests from south to south africa, indiana australia discussing how to end the current pandemic, and prevent the next one. and d, w correspondent, beer get master's reporting for as a, from a saint ives in cornwall. close to where the g 7 is taking place this weekend. forget, tell us more about this infrastructure project. it's aimed at countering china's influence is green, and it's meant to help poor countries catch up. sounds very ambitious. it is very ambitious. the u. s. has identified a 40 trillion dollar deficit for low and middle income countries when it comes to

infrastructure. and they say that during the pandemic, this gap has even widened. so they are calling for an alternative to china's belt and wrote initiatives also called a new skills wrote initiative where china is investing across the world and developing countries. and they say they want to do something that is very transparent and also very sustainable. and the usa, they want hundreds of billions of dollars invested in countries and, and climate change projects. but also when it comes to health and digital technology, and now they have the g 7 on board, no concrete plans and no concrete financial commitments. but that might be to come and thousands of people have gathered at near the summit venue to protest against all kinds of issues. but the vast majority are concerned about climate change. if this initiative, what the g 7 has to offer. yes,

definitely around me here in saint ives, in this really beautiful spot in the southwest corner of the united kingdom on the beaches. and in the see, there were a lot of climate change for testers extinction. rebellion was one of the biggest groups and they are really very critical and they are saying that they're hoping that will be more than words and also accusing for example, the united kingdom to on the one hand present itself as a leader and a climate change or fight against climate change, but on the other hand, just this year, having license new oil and gas exploration licenses. so the, you know, a bit of a contradiction that and climate change will be an issue that's going to be debated on sunday, david jackson burrow the naturalists and big television personality known across the world is going to talk to leaders tomorrow. so we'll have to see what campaign

and say off to this day tomorrow if there is anything that they say, cut the mustard very well, we will check back in on that on a sunday. and i understand there have been some new arrivals to the summit today. tell us about them. well, besides the leaders of south africa, the stray lads interesting that the leaders of india and south korea are attending the in person of virtually the summit. and this can also be seen in relation to shot to china, basically strengthening the ties with the democracies in the, in the pacific region. so china and how to stand up to china. and also in some instances, cooperate with china with, for example, comes to climate change is really dominating. one of the dominating features here at the summit dw corresponded beer get math in st. i've cornwall for us. thank you so much for your reporting. and let's turn our attention now to some other stories making headlines at this hour. a greek,

a court has sentence for african asylum seekers to 10 years in prison for their part in a fire that destroyed the moria. migraine camp last year of rice for then the u. n . refugee agency said the camp was unfit for human. more than 12000 migrants were living there when the blades gauss, thousands of people in northeastern burkina faso have taken part in the demonstration to demand a better security. comes up for militant killed, $100.00. 32 people in a village last weekend. the reason has seen numerous islamist attack in cove at 19 infections have more than doubled in moscow in the past few days. this is prompted the mayor to order many businesses and workers home for one week. the 1st time since the spring of 2020, that such tough measures have been imposed in the russian capital and here in germany, the green party had formerly nominated the woman in hopes for

a place uncle, american as chancellor in september as a general election delegate, a party conference and gave an odd to co leader and elaine, a bare bach. she's now the environmental it parties 1st ever candidate for germany's top job. she's one step closer to her goal and in a bad buck. hopes to replace angela macklin. jim and leader and on saturday got the backing of 19.5 percent of her party to run is the 1st ever bring candidates. chancellor deployed it. he cried. i know for joy to take the responsibility and the knowledge that we can do better together. and that's what we're seeing a much here. how we spend 40 years preparing for this now is the time to renew our country and anything possible or in the land to annoy. and when i live is for the past 3 years, their book and well, that's how big have been at the helm of the green policy and led the greens to new heights in the pony. now the policy is part of coalition governments in 11 of

germany, 16 states and only nevada was born in northwest in germany in 1980 the same year. the green party was found. it started off pushing for gender parity and environmental protection. in 1983, the 1st screen and peace were elected to parliament becoming a provocative force in the bonus tag in 1998 degrees and to the government. for the 1st time. as the junior coalition partner to get had showed us social democrats, one of the green biggest victories was that coalition decision to fade out nuclear energy. a decision that after initial resistance under macros government implemented in 2011 the green start to boost in the polls in 2019, when the friday so few to climate protection movement faster to the streets. the party even edged into the lead and opinion polls before falling behind michael's

conservatives again, partly because of a controlled c surrounding multiple false claims in babylon. official c, v. dying producing cooking. i want to thank you for giving me this massive tailwind, especially after the headwind of recent weeks where i made some mistakes that i'm extremely upset about. i got it's 3 months until germans go to the polls and for both the green party and for it's new template candidate. and lena bear books, they're looking to be the most important stream. and in that field, to use of existing sports news now. and let's get an update from the world of tennis. at the french open, unseeded barbara crate, she cova has been uninstalled the public shank over in the women's final is the 1st grand slam singles title for the 25 year old check. spurred by the memory of her late coach, former wimbledon champion, yanna, nevada, bought a creature cova at the top of your screen, stormed into an early lead in this class should be excited. breaking in the 4th

game before winning the 2nd 61 but the z a probably in cuba refused to crumble and serge back to take the 2nd st. 6 to in the decisive stirred creek. you call the brooks serve to go for 3 hours after refilling 10 short rally. and she clinched the title on her 4th championship, points in public and cova had long yeah, the 1st major filthy for the checking when she was presented with by the legendary martina and i've got a little over critical over no bids to become the 1st women since may the peers to

win the french open singles and doubles title missing year. that is your news update at this. coming up next, the ship looks at the darkness as a playground for criminal course. there's always more on our website to d, w dot com or you get asked. i'm clear, richardson in berlin, that is all for me for now for me in the entire team here. for joining us. the news in the case and above all how it feels jewish life in europe. that's what film producer, kona and journalist goodman are exploring,

delving into history and the present. i would never have thought the judaism could be live so openly. and so i remind myself because i grew up in a completely different way. broad pluralistic, i jewish in europe. the 2 port documentary starts july 5th on d, w. i fake passports, tracks, and weapons on the dark web. illegal activity is just a click away. why is it so hard to crack down on criminal activity there and can be used for good. the dark whip our topic today on shift the the dark web isn't alternative to the regular internet. it's a version that's anonymous and encrypted. this makes it the perfect space to sell

illegal goods like weapons. a recent study found that most users engaged in illegal activities on the dark whip this in the craddick societies. the most common illegal transactions are drugs. experts estimate that drugs make up 2 thirds of transactions on the dark web. so i tried it out. how easy is it to buy tracks on the dark web? at 1st glance, it looks just like a regular online shop with product images and customer reviews. but the products are illegal. heroin, and all kinds of weapons. ah, hi. a schuman is head of the cybersecurity analytics and defense department at the falling over institute in tom stats. she showed us wear box and sold on the dock when looking is legal only buying a crime in germany. the u. r. l's of these websites can be found on the regular internet or when it's better organized than many of the legal marketplaces. there

is much more information, the buyers are much more reliable, the feedback is much better money, money is involved and also much more is at stake. if you make a mistake, you go to jail. so you have to make sure that it's that it's super secure. with just a few clicks, customers can buy cannabis, one of the most popular drugs on the dock when it would be sent to the provided address. but that means trusting the vendor to delete it. once the product has been delivered, payment is done in the crypto currency bitcoin, so the customer remains anonymous. but how likely is it for the product to actually arrive in the end? every vendor here has a set of customers and if he doesn't deliver the goods, his reputation will be damage. no one will buy from him. so the whole system and darknet is based on reputation. that's why typically the service is good. if you order something, it will arrive. the customer is on the dock with are not 100 percent anonymous. so they are not completely protected from prosecution. because the location and ip

addresses are encrypted though it makes criminal prosecution my target. another challenge is the lack of national board is on the dock where it says michelle davis, we never really know what country this service or actually a located. and it's not just a technological challenge, but a traditional challenge to the home. and so we need to personally cooperate with other law enforcement agencies, pam, and work across various fields and speciality. but it's really a challenge in them under the common form that was in 2019 that was finally successful. working with international investigators, the federal criminal police, and v spun was able to prosecute one of the world's largest drugs and is on the dark waves bull street market. the service where then she discovered in this form a german military banker located in a small town in the west of germany. now that's surprising, you never expect to find the servers in a place like that. we spoke to somebody who buys drugs on the dark web. he told us

that he feels much safer buying directs on the dark web than on the street. we also asked him whether he's scared of being caught by the police. more on that soon on our youtube channel. and the dark web users are anonymous. when we surf the internet, we live traces behind everywhere. even when we use browsers in incognito mode like firefox, we're not really surfing anonymously. originally, the dark web was created by the us military to help intelligence agencies communicate anonymously. today, anyone can access it and in the middle makes the dark web useful for illegal transactions. and it also allows political activists to move about freely online. all they need is a certain software. here's how it works. but there's no way of accessing the dark web is by using the tor project, a worldwide network of servers. the visual whole project is to defend yourself against tracking and surveillance and circumvent censorship. wherever you are in

the normal internet europe, tract and somebody spies on you. and talk, tries to try to prevent that. to her employ a technique called onion routing, which uses multiple layers of encryption like an onion. this ensures the users in an entity, all search queries run through an extensive network of servers called toward nodes . this way, the uses ip address, a unique identifier, is only shared with the 1st node from then on. it's the note ip address that's use . the more nodes, the query runs through, the harder it becomes to trace back its origin which protects the user's identity. more than 2000000 people use tore browser every single day, activists like julia's mitten by or on a mission to ensure that the technology behind tor is standard in every browser. so that means anyone could search the web anonymously. that actually sounds pretty good to me. this is already standard on the dark web. however, anonymity can also protect people engaging in illegal activities like pedophile. in

recent years, the german police have discovered several different forms for this. one example was elysium, which was one of the world's largest platforms for images and videos, showing sexual abuse of children. the form we have down in 2017 elysium is a good example of the challenges the dark web poses for investigators. with 111000 accounts and online forms in 6 different languages, alisium was a space for pedophile from around the world to meet in 2017 favorite chat and share exploitative images of children. and even babies being sexually abused. the police use undercover investigators to track down these dark websites. really a lot of work, like finding all the pieces of a puzzle. just imagine trying to infiltrate one of these platforms. you'd have to that you're interested in plato filling material to start contacting a few people and talk to them. it's not just one or 2 conversations that could take

you weeks or months to get useful information. investigators also need to analyze the exploit images and videos depicting sexual violence against children. it's hard to watch, but every detail is important. and could you ask closely, watch the material and you're constantly looking for lead with this crime committed in germany. perhaps there's a product that's only sold in germany to be found somewhere in the background. in the case of alisium, an error in the online forum helped the investigators. the ip address of one of the servers was revealed which led the police to one of the perpetrators on the dark web. authorities frequently depend on coincidences and errors like these. but maybe that helps us when there are individual cases of humans making errors or the system not being 100 percent reliable. usually once a platform, it's hosted on the dark web. you can't access any real existing ip addresses anymore. even if the dark web isn't exactly the root of all evil. investigators, like usually a boost byler are convinced that the distribution of exploited images and videos of

children would be much less widespread without it. the villa we probably wouldn't see it happen on the same scale that we do today, simply because people would run a much higher risk of running into somebody that might actually report them to the police club. and i think this anonymous online exchange helps people encourage each other to pull the staff. and another problem for investigators is that in order to access these platforms, you use or is often need to submit new material. that means the police would have to share images of children being sexually abused, which is forbidden in many countries, of course, from 2020 onward. however, the german police are allowed to use computer generated images of children that aren't real. when a dark form is shut down, many users simply move on to the next one. that's right is especially important to prosecutor. you will have both fella to investigate a lot. you may have, if we keep breaking up more of these structures, then we might be able to have

a large impact by unsettling the users. but when some might even say it's a bit risky, maybe i shouldn't do this anymore. i think that would give us the upper hand to hide by creating this type of uncertainty and curity that might force people to think twice that the dark whip is also important for this. people protesting for freedom. tor browser is a software helping political activists around the world to surf, the internet anonymously toward which stands for the onion router is a multi layered encryption system, just like an onion. websites that can be accessed on tort can be recognized by their u. r. l extension dot onion. facebook has it as to the new york times and deutsche a fellow in new website that can be access onto a browser, which is especially useful in countries where these websites are usually blogs, like china or iran for the engine. he'll report it without borders. this makes the

dark with a to a for more freedom of speech. but doc net all more precisely. usually we talk about the tool browse that enables people to anonymously research on the internet to access what pages that might be censored in certain countries, or to share information or had documents for video material with international news media without giving away that identity. and that's quite a critical tool then, especially in less 3 countries. the dark we have is also a space that has been used to leak highly classified information, the list of lowest chelsea manny and it was snowed in use. the dark were for their leaks and during the air of 3, people use the dark. well to play an awful protest against the government without fear of prosecution. this is also being used to organize other protests offering protection from surveillance by intelligence agencies. we

definitely see both the use of like the p n technology and the doc not playing a critical role. also, reason protests in russia. obviously both states heavily sense of the use of social media and they take away accreditation of journalists and so communicating through alternative means and circumventing these states. censorship tools has become really critical. i take freedom of speech seriously. journalists rely on the dark web to work and to be protected from state control. for this reason, lisa did my from reporters with a border says that we shouldn't simply think of the dark up as being just the dark side of the internet. with darkness definitely hasn't missed probably the time frame, but the aspect of a sudden technology in a way to say this is about illegal activity online. and it's not just that funding monthly. it's an anonymous ation tool. and that enables both legal activity and

illegal activity. but it's really critical to general us with a blow us around the world. and therefore we need to talk about the positive aspects much more prominently as well. i think the term dark width is misleading. the word dark suggests illegal activity, but it's actually just a network that offers more user anonymity. what do you think? does the dark rep just have a bad reputation? could it be the internet of the future? or should it be closely monitored for illegal activity? let us know what do you think on youtube or facebook? bye bye, and see as soon the in ah, the

the, the conflict with tim sebastian, because of your student blaze is human rights and democracy in europe. and it makes unpleasantly deploying society to question a leading official who's trying to protect the union massive action commission, human rights. what is a suspect? complex next on d w. when antibiotics are out your shoes, the causes of multi resistance, are well known as the factory farming the poor hospital, hygiene, premature reuse of antibiotics deadly bacteria

keeps in 30 minutes on d. w. in the i change the africa mega. what's the story with here? what do they have for their future? c, w dot com, african megacity multimedia insight. click and consider the me on many occasions, i made some 5 powerful people, very angry, but you don't shame them into changing their behavior though. do you, commissioner of human rights and my mandate is very clear. europe has almost nothing to teach the rest of the world about human rights subjects. it is not black and white. this is not easy. the council of europe, as if you did lay this verdict on human rights and democracy in europe. and it makes unpleasant reading. europe's democratic environment and institutions that

says are in mutually reinforcing, decline. we talked a lot about democracy and human rights on this program and spend a good time holding politicians to account for actions. so the peace when danger of those rights. but the situation is now so critical, we decided to question a leading official is trying to protect human rights about why that protection is famous. junior me, after which is commission and human rights of accounts. as you guys went off and stuff, but what is it gone so spectacularly wrong? the junior may out of edge welcome to convict zone. thank you. 2 months ago you pressed the emergency button on human rights in europe. you said 2020 had been a disastrous year for those rights on the continent. one of the bleakest

assessments to be heard for a long time. do you think anybody is listening to your warning? well, i hope so. it is something that is affecting us all. no matter which part of the world, and if this is not a moment for all governments in europe and beyond, to take a long, hard look in the mirror and realize how important it is that we move forward in a different way than we be moving until now before this, unprecedented time, if we are all facing what people are listening because plenty of your warnings in the past have fallen on deaf ears. one example the issue of migrant abuse in hungry as far back as 2019. you said this needed to be addressed as a matter of urgency. nothing was done, gary and continued pushing back,

migrants across the border with serbia. my question is, why do you think you lack the personal authority to change the minds of people who do these things? who commit these violations or is hungry a loss cause? well, i would not say that the hungary law called 1st support because of area because of people that rely on the protection of the convention. when it comes to my personal influence and the impact, the time will tell, i cannot change the government. i cannot play to be in a position. but i can use something that is the most powerful tool in my, to the commissioner, which is my voice. giving my boys to voiceless, making sure that human rights violations are documented. and this is something that is already i would say extremely important. the impact can be measured in different

ways, but many are indifferent. international organizations have been saying for years about gary and situation and also in situation of many other countries that are moving in a very direction and say so freedom of media, for example, comes to my mind already in 2010 in a different position. i warned about social media extra, john, i said this is going to teach a mirror and it's happening right now. nevertheless, we should not be, but we should continue warnings and using all the tools that we have our disposal and ultimately to the decision of hunger, young and also the government that should comply with international law and standard when it gives just hungry is it there are plenty of states that are involved in these violations. you often hear the claim that human rights must be sacrificed for the sake of protecting national or european boundaries. what do

you tell those governments which, which advance that argument? i totally disagree with this. i think this is a wrong path and wrong way, but equally up to everything that you wrote, that the continent experience in the last decade, the 70 years ago when the organizational councils, europe was established. this is not the way to protect multilateralism. muslims approved to be extremely important, not only for democratic countries, but also countries that are trying to move forward some democratic order. and you know, i come from south april from booking and had to go. and i know how it is important to move forward and recognize the international issues at the same time, of course, protecting culture tradition, but not using it as an excuse not to protect human rights. this is wrong. and

because of this view, on many occasions, i made some 5 powerful people, very angry, which in a ways of mind, made them angry, but you don't shame them into changing their behavior though. do you? well, i've tried to shame them and named them, but then at the end, you know, it really depends on the government what they are do. as i said, i cannot, i'm not an opposition. political position. i'm commissioner for human rights. and my mandate is very clear. it was created by those states in order to be mine. it is quite a young institution 20 years since the establishment, but it's also quite unique because it is the economist independence. and it is up to the commissioner to decide, in which direction to grow the attention and to call for respect of human rights. of course, i really do. it is not black and white. this is not easy will don't like to see results either without commission. i understand the key to the effective

functioning of the council is the binding commitment, supposedly, of member countries to implement decisions of the european court of human rights. that too has been a significant failure, hasn't. did your own figures show it as of january this year? a staggering 45 percent of the leading judgments from the court, finalized in the last 10 years have not been implemented. that's a shocking figure, isn't it? it is shocking feedback, but at a time we also need to recognize that many decision, you know, they were implemented and there are states that still do honor their commitments. this is quite extraordinary what we are facing at the moment. and here i can just mention cases that are affecting people's lives. i can really refer to the case of the man cabella who i visited the prison 2 years

ago. he's still in prison. even though there is a judgement from the board of human rights. and certainly government is not implementing extremely important judgment. nobody in russia is another. i want you to come on and i want to talk about russia and about in the, in, in a moment. but, but these rulings are your most important tool for correcting injustice and government are throwing huge numbers of them in the been and my question is, if, if that doesn't work, and that's your major lever, your major mechanism for righting wrongs. what have you got left? i think it's collected there. it's fun of the mechanisms. of course it is extremely important. fine, i can always present 3rd party intervention like i did. many of the cases that we already mention, but then it is ultimately, you know,

with the states and also the committee of ministers, of the council of europe that is monitoring execution of the judgments of the supreme court of human rights. for me, there are other tools at my disposal bilateral discussions, but also teaching access to presents in order to really try to understand the situation that in some cases, extremely complex. but i agree with you that the, the fusion of the judgment of the appeal court of human rights is a key. and that is something that as the organization we need to, to do more, more needs to be done on the political level. we need more, you know, governments that are willing to, to name the space that are not really to be a document. they seem to be in short supply. those governments you, you have pointed out the cove. it because the panoramic is accelerated,

the decline of democracy in europe with governments acquiring special powers that have served to erode the checks and balances on them. but this process has been under way for a long time, as you said on april 21st commitment to upholding human rights values has been faltering all over the continent for several years. so during those years, there should have been time to stop the slide. now. why wasn't the intervention done much, much earlier, when the pattern was seen and identified? well, there is no question from him dollar a for all of us to answer and also to ask ourselves by facing this situation now. but if the major should, should germany, france, u k, i mean, they will claim to value human, right? what i have done, most of the states should have done more, but when it comes to human rights protection, i would say, you know, based on my career and everything i did, i see it's not

a street. it is the is, it is american. i would say it is difficult to to the results results required time. but i think the commitment is a p here, and i don't have time do they do new me out of it's a lot of living in a pulling conditions and poorly human rights abuse and not all the many visiting many but also results only yesterday i learned about decision by the check parliament to compensate roma, women that suffered sterilization in the ninety's, which was part of my work and engagement parliament and the government justice is also very slow, but it is important that we see. and i agree with you. there are many, many parts of marginalized parts of the society that are waiting for impact and

waiting for their health for, for the help from isn't it, isn't it true? commission of the business in a way is to blame for this faltering commitment that you've spoken about this idea, for instance, that germany always pushes change through trade. you get the trade, but in terms of human rights, nothing changes. does it look at the deals with china and rough russia? no leverage human rights whatsoever? this was especially true of the controversial note stream to gas deal with russia. no human rights considerations were allowed to get in the way of that worth of that . this is, this is a lost opportunity, isn't it? the push human rights. of course, each time of human rights are not in the center of any kind of discussion. we fade and be moved backwards. but at the same time, i think this should also be assigned to all parts of working in human rights area.

not to really of the in a way ignorance for these happenings. of course we do follow everything but my work and my mandate gives me many opportunities to raise these questions with the governments, with society in many of the states. and for me, dialogue is a p as well. but also the same time, you know why diplomacy has to get from, with the dialogue has to get somewhere but doesn't it. and looking at your report, europe has almost nothing to teach the rest of the world about human rights. does it? you said in contemporary europe, human rights, different, those are killed, abducted job harris, the space for civil society when those democratic institutions are dismantled, independent judges removed. journalists are silenced by pointing,

know that you've effectively demolished the idea that europe is some kind of beacon of human rights having to it isn't. it has many more than 5. what i would still say that it is. there are many things that we should not take for granted and forgot that, you know, millions of people have become free from oppression, poverty, free to live. there was so it's not like a bite and you just portrayed europe much 15 years of steady decline, of observance of human rights and democratic principles. that's nothing to be proud of. is it? no, that's nothing to be proud of. but as i said, there are still examples of government, you know, really accepting refugees doing great things for human. right. you, you mentioned russia is take a state that doesn't appear to be committed to those rights like o member countries. russia agreed to be bound by the rulings of the european court

of human rights. but in the case of the opposition leader, i like saying the valley which you mentioned earlier. russia has clearly faltered the orders of the court, hasn't it? the court said in february and nevada and they should be temporary released from jail because the government couldn't provide sufficient safeguards for his life and health rushes, justice minister called the ruling unenforceable and threw it in the been where does that leave you? well, this is a clear disregard of human rights and international obligations about the case is emblematic case. this also shows that beneath, you know, there are many more problems like a lack of independent judiciary in russia. human rights abuse in chechnya, lack of investigation, repression of descent and harassment of human rights defenders. so it's not just the case where we see that the russian federation is completely disregarding the

decision of the board of human rights. but i still remain hopeful that he will be soon free, and the structure will show important one member of the council 0. i've been just wondering what is based on a commission that because the russian state also called the court ruling, blatant and gross interference in the judicial affairs of a foreign state. now that one statement undermines the basis on which countries belong to the counselor doesn't. the fact is, if the council does nothing about this, then countless numbers of people in russia and elsewhere will conclude that you're simply not capable of enforcing the requirements of council membership. and standing up to tough and abusive governments is not right. not really. it is not that simple. it is up to the government to implement the judgement is up to the

committee of ministers of the council of europe to push for the tuition of the judgment. we have to keep the dialogue with you for it is also in difficult situation and it is not because of difficulties that we give up. on the contrary, i think this is also a moment for the council of europe to do more than ever before and did all the institutions and all the mechanisms that we had disposal. i think at the end of the seas, this cannot happen overnight. at the same time, i completely agree with you. not as the teaching judgement of europe. i'm invited unacceptable. and all the countries that are really not doing it should be polls optically and really, you know, we should try to do as much as we can in order to continue pushing for the release

of people that are sitting in jail and document commission. unacceptable is, is an overused word internationally, isn't it? it's normally meant to cover things that we've already accepted. but wish we hadn't russia has faced credible allegations of attempting to murder, not only like santa valley, but a former intelligence officer said a script and his daughter in england in 2018. and they actually are accused of murdering another former officer. alexander, when you go in london, in 2006, russia denies all these charges, but these are credible allocations and it still has its seat in the council art, isn't it that despite these allegations from a european body, it's still allowed to keep its seat in a body that promotes democracy and human rights. why is that? why is that? i mean, this is not really a question i can answer because not only russia,

but all the states are teaching in international organizations. they have a seat in the security council un including council. if you're my role is not to make a judgement to states should fit in, you know, as a member or not is definitely outside, you know, my mandate. but what is it in my mandate, is to remind those states to comply that commitments and to honor the values and that they agree when they became members of different international organizations. nobody pushed russia or poor. russia will become a member of the council of europe or any other country. why do we see that? not russia, many other countries simply taking the box and paying we are proud member of this organization and not doing anything. it's

a huge question. but if the council of europe, the problem is it gives many governments a coke of respectability that they don't deserve. doesn't it? like as i said, you know, being member of the club, you know, always the honorable thing. but if you do not follow the rules of the club and you know, just to something that should be exposed then to seat in the counsel, i think it's important to say is to ensure the protection of the citizen, not the government. we work for, for the people, excluding people because government behave badly would leave people without protection, which is the last thing i would like to see as commissioner of human rights. engaging with the ordinary people. marginalize people is the main issue for me when you are doing a lot of monitoring the protecting these days. though on to you're not,

you're not the people in turkey, for instance, last year, nearly $26000.00 people were in jail, awaiting trial on terrorism charges that continue to be widely misused and used. in fact to restrict free expression of association. they're not protected. i don't know, i mean they, you know, you're wrong here. you know, protection mean much more than just, you know, saying okay, i'm just going with the floor and i'm going to protect all those people. know people in turkey do feel protected by my office and me personally, they see my office as a boy where they can complain and seek protection. and this happened on, on many occasions i was given access, as i already stated, to present to see an estimate autonomy, please release now. and i do try to engage the government, the government on the issue of human rights defenders and journalist center

numerous cases before the court. but it's not an easy task, but at the same time, it is honorable and it gives me even more energy to, to engage, to try to help people helping one individual can also change a lot in any country. but you righty dated the previously that at the moment the do not leave in a good time for human rights. human rights on elected. pushed under the carpet by many governments. ultra conservative groups are targeting civil society and human rights defenders. and this is a said why are facing this situation? as i already said, it's a question for the color. nevertheless, you need to continue work when it's also a question. you can just blame the government, can you?

what about the people who put them there? what happens when free elections empower politicians who then take away their rights? what then? what then? well, the question is also the elections over 3 unfair? it's not the case to all the time. you have many reports from credible international organizations, including parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, stating that certain elections in certain date, but everything but not free and fair. so you end up with the governments, want to stay forever neglect human rights. and this is something we should not hello, i have mandates for 47 members of the council of europe and differences are huge, but no date is immune to violations of human rights. and documenting this and pointing out and working together with people can bring results not overnight,

but the fact that the fact is the autocrat. so winning on fe when you look back through the centuries, it's repression. that's the enduring constant, not democracy. and now that repression is back with a vengeance, and we have to face that fact. don't we? yes that's, that's true. but i would not say that the article be winning. there are examples. and we should listen to different voices into society. but for you should not use those voices that are reading like fake news targeting human rights defenders. generally civil society in order to to win bowls. he should not use these as a excuse for not doing enough. but what i think is also important is that all international innovation should use the situation now and try to push

for changes by putting human rights in the guy. and i understand that, but very briefly, if you keep sounding the alarm bell and nothing improves and it hasn't been improving, as we pointed out over the last 15 years, it's been a steady decline. the danger is that people are going to stop listening on thing. there was, i was paddy decline, but i disagree that there was no progress and there were no issues related to right . that's improved in many member states. if you look at the situation to judge b t i t, when it comes to women's rights, i mean they are still fighting. the struggle is present. but if you trace and change, or better. if you look at the rama communities in many days, they were examples of, of success and moving forward. so it's not just, you know,

completely, you know, really great situation that we need to just accept it and say ok, the fail. no, we did not. all right, activates, i'm afraid we're out of time. thanks very much for being with us on conflict. so thank you. thank you very much. the news. the news, the news, the news

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