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to remind myself, i grew up in a completely different way. the broad explorer, the stickers, jewish in europe, the 2 port documentary starts july 5th on d, w. ah, ah, this is date of the news and these are our top stories. us president joe biden has arrived in geneva, switzerland ahead of a summit with his russian counterpart of vladimir putin on wednesday, fight, and is expected to confront food over several issues. including recent ransomware attacks and the detention of russian dissidence. alex st. vonny. the pair are also likely to discuss cooperation on nuclear arms control. me. hundreds of far right is rarely protesters have march through occupied east jerusalem,
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raising tensions with palestinians in the area. so called march of the flags commemorates the anniversary of israel's 967 capture of one israeli police changed the route of the march to prevent the demonstrators from passing through the cities muslim quarter. they also arrested several palestinian protesters. me to fight huge protest hungry parliament has passed a law banning material team to promote homosexuality or gender reassignment to children. the government says the legislation targets pedophile, but l g b, t, q activists and human rights group. the legislation is homophobic. thousands rallied outside parliament to denounce the law. if you news, you can find much more on our website. and d, w dot com. ah, since the pandemic began, russian president vladimir putin has avoided the corona virus by not leaving his
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country. in fact, anyone hoping to be near the president must 1st quarantine for 2 weeks with one exception. that is joe, by tomorrow the us in russian presidents will meet face to face in switzerland for food. and it will be a rare pandemic outing for bye. and it will be the end of a tour of europe, the differences between them, their personal and their political, a problem just waiting to become a crisis for europe and the world on board golf and berlin. this is the day the me to places the some it will help restore on personal content very much on the scenes i'm established at direct dialogue, american road america change. it's only well mainly interested
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in we can work together effectively. but wanted to spend a great relationship with they don't we can cooperate. ah, also coming up in june is pride month around much of the world, but apparently not in hungary this year. a new law passed today makes it illegal for gays and lesbians to be mentioned in schools or shown on children's television . children don't need protection from exposure to diversity. by on the contrary, l g, b, t, children and families. they need protection from discrimination and non violence. the to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day on the eve of one of the most anticipated meetings of the year. tomorrow he was president joe biden, and russian president vladimir putin will sit down face to face for the 1st time in
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geneva, switzerland. there is massive security already in place. this sit down comes at one of the lowest points in us, russian relations since the end of the cold war president bye and says there are serious problems to discuss allegations of russian election meddling in the u. s. cyber attacks. the conflict in ukraine and moscow's crack down on opposition activists. this will obviously not be a feel good event. in fact, both sides are promising no joint news conference when the meeting is over. that means no repeat of what the world witnessed 3 years ago in helsinki between bruton and then us president, donald trump. this historic lakeside vendor is getting a new lease of life. that's the venue hosting the us russia summit. geneva has been enjoying a summer heat wave diplomat. so hoping the talks to will get off the sunny start
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bridge and himself standing up beats low so that the summit will help restore our personal contacts and establish a direct dialogue that we can cooperate in the american side are talking the same way. and i generally agree with them. areas of mutual interest include strategic stability, regional conflicts, and protecting the global environment. we can work together effectively. if you feel a lot of the fight and republican predecessor donald trump, was keen to play up his personal relations with other world leaders including boots in we're going to have. but even before taking office in january biden has maintained a much tougher line on russia. actually agreeing on american television that he thinks putin as a killer adversaries. and in fact, the leaders have met before 10 years ago invite and was us vice president. he later revealed, he had told putin he didn't believe the russian leader had
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a sol biden's 1st overseas tourist president has taken in summits of the g 7 in britain, at nato, in brussels. we think, speaking to the nato secretary general fighting with forthright on russia. and i think that there is a growing recognition over the last couple years that we have new challenges and we have russia that is not acting in a way that is consistent with what we had hoped in the run up to the talks in geneva, who didn't for his part has already dismissed allegations that russia is carrying out cyber attacks against the us. the talks may turn out to be somewhat frosty. from war i'm joined tonight by jonathan, can. she's a senior fellow with the german marshal point of the united states. you join me
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tonight from washington, jonathan, it's good to see you again to get you back on the show. in your opinion, what would be the best realistic outcome of tomorrow's talks? well 1st i just want to say that that, i think president biden is, is going into this with some momentum after having had a very successful g 7, nato summit in us. you solve it. and so i think he's, he's, he's done what he needed to do, which is consult with allied restraint and trans atlantic security cooperation and focus both not only on russia but also on china as well. so i think he's are, he is already heated out of the park using a us baseball metaphor. but i think the best outcome tomorrow is that the president is firm with mr. booth about his own red lines in the united states, including many things that were just mentioned, cyber hacking threats to ukraine,
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the treatment of russian opposition liter alexi and me. so there's a number of things that are on the table. i think many people believe there's one, there's not high expectations for the outcomes to the summit. but at a minimum of the u. s. in russia need to be sitting down at a table and communicating, given the stakes of issues that are on the table. the you, as president says, he is not looking for conflict with foods and but if us intelligence is correct, futons, russia has been working non stop to create conflicts with the us. so how do these 2 liters? how do they talk about that without talking around that? yeah, well, i think there's going to be, again, a lot of straight talk from this president, president biden about these challenges already. you've seen it in the u. s. response in terms of both sanctions but also again in terms of how it is
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approaching some of these issues with russia, including on cyber. and i think that's particularly important that the us present send those strong messages right now it's, it's diplomacy. this is one meeting. this may lead to additional meetings after that, but i do think that you're going to be a little bit of a, talking over each other when it comes to each other's points of view. mr. newton is, is not a democracy. to talk proceed. and he make a decision about it, country direction based on himself and himself alone. president by the, near the hand is dealing with a number of issues both in method international. and i think those are what he is keeping in mind when he's having these conversations. what does by you see him out of the park in terms of reassuring european allies, but what will he bring with him tomorrow in terms of native for example, will he have a new native strategy mean?
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but he speaks about drawing lines and responding militarily. if they are cross, if he's speaking they are as the us commander in chief, isn't it? he's speaking as a us commander chief, but what he's really done is, is brought back this alliance. if you think about where we were a year ago with president trump, to where we are today with president invited allies, really singing from the same song sheet about the need to strengthen nato and charley. whether we're talking about commitments about funding. but also in terms of technology, cyber, but also dealing with some really key issues that i think they translate to community. they don't often get put on the table when we start talking about russia . but we're talking about coven 19. we're talking about economies that, that have been devastated over the last year and then we're talking about these agreements that were reach, including on and on. boeing and airbus, which may not seem important to this conversation. but our integral to this
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administration strategy revitalized a, this relationship but also deepening it in a way that we're able to address challenges that we see coming down the road. technological challenges, including from china. yeah, exactly. shine is the key word here. and i wonder, is russia our concentration on rush at the moment? is it, you know, sucking up all of the oxygen here? i mean, would you, will you agree that china poses a bigger, long term threat to the transit gwinnett community than russia does? well, i think, i think this administration one is from everything they're saying and including this entire week, the president, president bite was very quick even as he was leaving the united states to talk about russia. so i don't think they view, maybe they're, you know, this is more sort of in depressed, or maybe in think tanks and elsewhere where we're talking about one threat versus together. i think the united states use both as challenges, challenges, competitors, threats, when they can be and then also opportunity to try to find areas to work together.
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so it's, it's a mix. i see this administration very much walking and chewing gum, both dealing with the foreign policy challenges that, that have been on the agenda this week. but also dealing with the domestic challenges of ending cobra. 19 addressing economic challenges and also the issue that underlined every document that i've seen this week, which is strengthening democracy and strengthening trans atlantic values. and as a main competitor i talk received including china and russia very reason before we run out of time. johnny, do you think, are you of the opinion that president bind will return to the united states as a stronger you as president than he was when he left? i think that he definitely has bank. i think greater support for the u. s. policies, both domestically and internationally, including the need to address the economic needs. but there's a number of challenges domestically that the president will deal with immediately
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including a massive infrastructure bill. also american democracy is still challenged. we see that across numbers states. so i think it was a very successful chip for president biden, but knowing him in his administration, their only focus on the diplomacy or the optics, but they want to get things done. and i think that when they come back they'll be a full agenda. but i think they will absolutely bank the strength and relationship with transatlantic quarters. but this is just the beginning of a lot of hard work. jonathan can with the german marshall fund of the us, jonathan is always we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thank you for well, cyber attacks launched inside russia against targets in the united states. it's a real problem, but things could get a whole lot worse. experts, a warning that there is a growing risk of cyber conflict hitting the world of nuclear weapons with potentially devastating consequences. and they want to put in bite and some it to do something about it. or chief international editor richard walker has this report
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. ready in northern england, not far from the coast, you can find a place called filing tail. it's a bridge for space that's notable not for it's planes, but for what they call a pyramid. a giant radar that belongs to america's early warning system. it's a system that reaches out to space west lights keep watch from high obit, part of the command control apparatus in charge of us nuclear weapons. this is the nervous system of the western military alliance. it's so important that the u. s. says that if it were attacked, it might respond with nuclear weapons, and yet it is vulnerable in new and dangerous ways. the 1st warning systems were built during the cold war. over the years they've been upgraded, enjoying the digital age, and that has opened them up to possible cyber attack. old fashion,
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you click on the control systems that didn't use digital systems were inoperable to cyber attack. there's no code there to do the attack. today the systems have become potentially tempting aside, but target various countries that could have incentives to side the espionage or path to cyber attacks by searching malware it gave us. so the warning system, korea would have an antique, china would have an incentives doing russia would have an incentive for doing it, maybe others to experts run 3 scenarios, working out what might happen if the systems came under attack. they show up huge scope for uncertainty. and dangerous miscalculation. if you find malicious code in your networks, it's very hard to know what that code does. it takes a long time to analyze the code, understand what the other site is doing. and this makes it very hard to know
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whether is malicious toady just for espionage or is also for offensive operations as well. in the west case, as fiber attack could unleash the spiral of escalation, right up to one side, launching and nuclear weapons. taking the world to the brink of disaster, me want to cross that threshold on nuclear 1st uses. second, you have to worry that it's going to escalate into something like sunni apocalyptic civilization. this is just sort of disaster that the whole world has an interest in preventing. so if the putin bite and some it is to mean anything, this is where it could make it start. and i'm doing now right here in the studio by the author of that report. you just on the w chief international editor, richard walker richards. get to see you again. it's good to see you in the studio again, lots of new things this week. walk me through this now, how does
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a cyber attack, and i know that americans listening to this will be thinking about the attack that was recently done on a pipeline in the united states. how does a cyber attack escalate into a nuclear war? it has the extreme just name brand, but essentially what you have is, is these things that the inherent cyber weapons that we just heard about, that the uncertainty, the ambiguity, deny ability, that kind of surrounds them when they collide with the massive tensions that we have between the great powers at the moment between particular, between the us and russia, but also china, you know, could also equally be a part of this. and then on top of that, you have the really astronomical stakes involved with nuclear weapons. those 3 things are really dangerous makes, and essentially what happens in these scenarios is you have a ratcheting up of action and counter action in this kind of fog of uncertainty, against the backdrop of all of those,
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all of those tensions. and that is what can lead you to the very dangerous places. i mean, it sounds like you can get out of control much more quickly than they could in the, the analog world. i mean, this sounds like an area where both presidents really have no choice but to find some common ground they have to cooperate here. i mean, how much hope is there that put in and biden are going to do that? yeah, well expectations this summer, really very low talking to experts on both sides. the relationship is so bad at the moment that you know hopes for any kind of breakthrough, a probably naive. but if the, if there is one area where they can come together. if there is one area where the kind of mutual interest really overshadows, that desire to be on top, it has to be in this area of control and this area code strategic stability in the
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which is this idea that between great powers, you don't want one power to be kind of getting a huge advantage in one area against the other power, or also this area of crisis stability, where you don't want crises to spin out of control, you want them to be kind of manageable. and that's the fear at the moment that the tension is so bad between the 2 sides. that if you then pile something like this on top of those lates intentions, then it could spin out of control. so neither side has any interest in, in, you know, escalating to a nuclear war that neither i'd really wanted. but this is a danger that these x that have been telling us is real. so i think where we're looking at what could happen in geneva. this is going to be really telling watch out for this, do the 2 sides come out and say off to it's okay, we're not friends now, but we realize that we have an issue here. we're going to get our teams expert starting to talk about this area, strategic stability, perhaps this type of new area. if they come back and say that, then that's
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a good sign. if they don't come out and say that if there really is nothing out of this, that is a very bad sign that things are going to get even what and you know, we, we don't want to engage here and scare mongering. but i mean, how close has the world been to this kind of doomsday event? i mean, is it even possible to know that? well, that's what, so worrying about this new world that we're entering upside war, we don't know. and there's a massive incentive if you are hit by this kind of cyber attack, not just not to come out about and talk to the public about that to try and keep it quiet. so we simply don't know. but the message coming from these experts is we need to talk about the leaders need to talk about this is difficult to talk, that was highly sensitive, but if they don't, we could end up in a dangerous place. all right, or even nationalism. richard walker. richard, excellent, reporting and a fascinating, scary subject. thank the
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once a day, the hungarian parliament passed a law that makes it illegal to mention gazer, lesbians. busy in the presence of children now it bands from schools and television programming for minors, any material deemed to promote homosexuality or gender reassignment. the government says the legislation targets head of files, but human rights groups say the law is simply homophobic. the kind of show support for l g b t writes outside parliament in the past whether such public displays are still legal is now in doubt. the new law, just prost bands, anything deemed to promote homosexuality to children, including bringing up l g b, t issues and gender diversity in schools. those behind the new legislation, faith protect children. campaigners condemned the law as
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a cynical attempt to link homosexuality with sexual deviant. equating sexual and gender diversity with peter filia strikes that the very core of the human dignity and humility of l. g b t. people in hungary and poses a real risk of putting them and their safety and well being in danger. prime minister victor o been singled out to children's book featuring gender diverse characters. he said it crossed a red line. others on the far right, labeled the book, homosexual propaganda. books like that, as well as advertisement showing same sex relationships and now banned. when i did, it gets my message mad, me on the bad children have a right to know the will they live in more than my dad or if they have a right. and i don't want social reality check. but now hungary, social realities,
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lesbian, bisexual, transgender people, and part of the role of education is to make children fully aware of the i think i of us, but the hunter is right. wing government has cracked down on l g. b t writes not recognizing gay marriage, banning l g b t couples from adopting and out flooring gender changes the l g b t. community fear the new law is just the next step in the erosion of their rights. more i'm joined now by insult zika rush. he is a legal officer and coordinator of the hungarian heal sankey committee. that's a non governmental human rights watch. donkey join us tonight from budapest, it's going to have you on the program. let me ask you something about the, the legislation that was passed today. there was only one vote against it in parliament. does this reflect the will of the hungarian people? i mean, it's an overwhelming support for the law in parliament. hey,
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good evening and thank you for having me. this vote proportion does not reflect the general opinion of the hungarian public, but he reflects it. how many members of parliament are present for the vote? many abstain, they can't. they took a conscious decision and walked out because they did not want to participate in this erosion of fries. and this is deeply anti democratic decision that links being gay and lesbian, north, transgender, to better filia, they didn't want to coord to corporate or assist in the systemic child abuse that the hong caring government is now engaged in order to gain political momentum. let me, let me ask you about that. the government says this legislation is trying to target
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and stop pedophile, but we know that the data everywhere shows is that it's not the l g b t community that's usually guilty of pedophilia. it's usually heterosexual. married men who know their victim has that has that fact been communicated thoroughly to the public in hungary. certainly what we have here and how you can see another and you have beam. very strongly advocating for and, and trying to get through to the general public in the past couple of days was that this is a deeply disgusting attempt from the government to link, but of failure to, to being gay. clearly it is the end of the political tool in the hands of the government, what they're trying to, to use to do revise. the opposition. what me to be born minded that next year isn't an action year in hungary and the government is clearly trying to do what they're
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back that and this hate mongering. this is a strategy tactics that they have been using ever since the days of the record. you christ, within 2015, they constantly create a vision of anatomy that they can then the feet and behind the smoke screen, what they're doing is technically eroding the marker, the freedoms. and the rule of this new piece of legislation is deeply disgusting. piece of legislation that they act today is open system of children's fundamental right to, to protection to safe development and safety. they're going to leave as he be the children at an extremely dark and lonely place. it is going to enable, believe it is going to enable ma being it is going to got away l g, b, p, children from the lifeline that they truly need in order to be safe in order to
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feel respected in order to have a human being respected will vote so unfortunately we are out of time, but this is definitely a topic that deserves more time and we will be following the story and please come and talk with this again. the 2nd rush from the hungarian ho seeking committee. thank you. thank you very much. well the day is almost done, but the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either w news or you can follow me at brent golf tv. remember whatever happens between now and then, tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody who's the
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