oh, you how you shook hands. joe biden. the very beginning, i know we have, you managed to reach a new level of mutual understanding and confidence not to believe it is realistic. this rich and new level of relationship would be totally clear, transparent, that is the ultimate goal to pull. so it was said there's no happiness in life. those just a glimpse of happiness and do cherishes i believe that here there can be no confidence ultimate conference, but i see that we've seen some glimpse of this confidence. please be sure that you have a mike, but you want the 2nd one. this is yvonne douglas from channel code. 1900. is one of the key subjects to have you brought to talk during your

meeting with the us president. and is that the case for the prospects of joint work with us to overcome the panoramic? maybe the could talk about neutral recognition of vaccines. well, we brought this out, but just briefly in class saying, you know, that in the times of the previous us administration, we accommodated the us request and with our equipment, humanitarian assistance. well, i mean, it's not that they run off of money at that point in time. they were in dire need of ventilated that we had done it selflessly and we are ready to search kinds of corporations. but we haven't discussed this in detail. we'll do the the meetings with tom, the relationship between our 2 countries. other, any factors tell that this will not be the case today.

have relationships reached awesome. he is, well, i can say machine all day. i related to the deterioration of russia escalation was initiated by the us, not trust congress. quite inventive. and i do not know what they will invent wrong . just please the components of the exam again with some of you know that our team has as one finished team 10. congratulations. the students take the same assessment, same same scale to the board and by meeting what the score. so the one to the in the 2nd part of the question need before coming to americans,

we're saying we're going to exert pressure on board and have you fell this pressure and how have you put up to it? because i think the, the entire rush. i, you know, thinking how our president is doing out there and i think it's put plenty. yeah. i think so to more than the no, no, no pressure at all. but it was a frank and sick, candid conversation with or without you know, without going attention from the agenda. you mentioned, like i said, neither us nor the united states have tried to exert any pressure, but this is not the point of the meeting. and the k to score my thing before we met prison inviting that this is not a competition event. and i fully duff dale with him. we're going to do really said

the score. this was a productive meeting. it was fruitful. it was to the point that it took place in an atmosphere that it was actually enabling, enabling it to create to do, and she to come for something. and the most important thing is the glimpses of confidence and hope that we had previously news. please. the news videos mister president, i didn't pity why that been because only job writing calls for the table and predictable relationship with russia. however, the wiz at the believes that unpredictability is an inherent trade. well, the russian would always say, are you ready to for goals? thing is up in stability in order to improve the relationship with the west. well,

quite come to quite come to later it was difficult to to, to follow the logic. i'm really and is, i mean it's like a contradiction of terms of the lease. and then the 2nd part of that should do you, are you ready to forego this? well, if the with believe this, the doesn't mean the, this is the objective truth. so let me address your question. in part, he will need to do dissected. you said that the with believe the russian policy is unpredictable. well, let me reciprocate that i'm going to the u. s. withdrawal from the a be treated in $22002.00 was unpredictable. why would they do that? then disrupt and undermine the basis on the strategic stability and treaty withdrawal in 2019. is that what's your goal ability when you're the open skies agreement, withdrawal stability. there's almost nothing to almost no,

not legs 2 to send upon by one. thankfully, the star rating was saved and ungrateful, the president biden has made a decision to extend the new start trading for 5 years. now take the situation in and around ukraine and crimea. this was what it all started. right? okay, let me plan to question what was stable about boarding and it could be an uprising in your crate. i mean, the president can come, she was ready to to announce the elections. he agreed with all the demands on and then no, it wouldn't work. you'd have to go over the cool, you know, the, the ramifications that followed the crimea, the east of ukraine, and you're saying that we are in stability and, well, i don't think so. in my mind, we say differently, we don't think in this terms,

we think that we are trying to to create stability, but, but for the situation to be stable, we need an agreed rules of conduct across the stability, cybersecurity, the original stuff. i go into my thing that we can agree on these things and i have an impression that we can agree with. let us draw this to wrap it up. i'm sorry, i can't hear you speak to the mike this. it doesn't matter. one money, not one lou fog popular tunes or let's do something you know, his stick, something intelligible and reasonable. bloomberg please. and we'll wrap it up. the final question to the lady when bloomberg news

in 2016 trying to bring you something in launching a new set of america sanctions was quickly impose away. and what about this round of negotiations? have you got any assurances that there will be no new sanctions in the near term states coming from the united states? yes. and you said about the glimpses of hope. what do you have if you go, i don't have any ideas on how feasible it is to expect that the president biden would be able to deliver to follow through on the promises. i mean, it's believe that the american political apparatus is actually showing more solidarity with present show during the president trump presidency. so right. you've agreed on consultations on cybersecurity, on ukraine. do you think there will be any working groups established?

do you think any red lines will be respected or can use just dr. young? i think i've spoken to read last at length and then you see the understanding and confidence in this is created stamps for from negotiations. there's no reason to meet each other and threatened to exchange trade verbal attacks, and there's not a point in the restrictions the sanction. so this is something i've brought up already. we don't know what's brewing in the american political apparatus. i mean, when we know the, you know, the broad strokes in the current, but we don't know the details. there are probably opponents and proponents of developing better relations with russia who prevail. it's difficult to say and hopefully it will be taken after this. i'm going to summit well hopefully

one might think so, but it would only mean a missed opportunity if it happens. could you? and the final question is, do you do a journalist from canada? mister president, thank you for the opportunity. i'm coming to the school from canada. you said to a couple of my colleagues, you wanted and biased to give it a translation. know you hear me now getting, you know, but it was because you can reach serious people to me. i will try and repeat just much. these are breaking up with each the fresh engine fixture going to show it,

but just had a nice little i didn't like tomorrow to school from canada in moscow. you said to a couple of my colleagues you wanted and biased, fair question coverage. i have a fair question for you. it actually comes from my 9 year old daughter who asked me before i left to come here. what is the big deal with the summit? and it's quite a complicated answer for a 9 year old. so i'd like you to explain to us in your own words, mister president, why is this relationship so complicated? and also she'd like to know, and i'd like to know why our young people are not allowed to protest in russia at the tuition. it's a great thing to know. your 9 year old is actually interested in these things. and the quest, the answer is pretty simple. you got to look around me and just see

the thing to yourself, a wonderful world. i mean the grown ups, this leaders of 2 major countries to major nuclear power countries. i'm meeting to try to make this world a safer place and a secure way prospering place. to live with for many people from across the globe, they will, it is just the stuff about the horrible weapons at calculus. so that has to be somehow in the issue that prevented from they will discuss nature with how to make rivers clean. might yeah. how to make, sees in the way, how to stop and drive to know how to make sure everybody has plenty of food to eat for anyone in the globe. what else they discuss?

they will discuss health and medicine so that when somebody kids grow up, they will be healthy and they started to have a bright future and i wish very much share. so this meeting will be covered with, with this ideas in mind. thank you. ok, well there concludes the press conference of russian president vladimir putin. it lasted over 50 minutes where plenty of topics were coverage and to delve deep into what was said in the press conference in geneva after president vladimir putin meeting with the u. s. counterpart, joe biden. i have our chief international editor, richard walker, here with me. hi richard. let's start with what's your initial take away from that

extensive? we'll say press conference. yeah. well, i think the overall kind of take away will be, and of course we're going to hear from joe biden, shortly. we think so all of these are the provider that he doesn't, contradicts a lot of what we've just heard that. but you know, the message seems to be so far so good. the 2 leaders have managed to agree constructive steps. pushing did use the word construction on a couple of the areas which we've been discussing in the lead up to this. we can kind of dig into those in a little bit, but you know, this under this banner of like strategic stability. trying to prevent the tension isn't the basically underlying kind of conflict between the us and russia from actually spilling over into something, you know, a genuine conflict. talking about steps also towards dialogue on cyber. a major bone of contention between the 2 sides. getting the ambassadors back into place in the to capital cities, you know,

where they haven't been recently. so a series of steps there where, you know, it looks like all right, a certain level of progress. and we can pick a part like, you know, whether these issues that, whether they really will be progress on those. but also a set where there's no real bugging at all on human rights on russian politics on ukraine, just a series of allegations against ukrainian government. there really, but i think overall kind of so far so good. who's quite at the end of it, if glad uprooting. ever things on come by. yeah. i mean that's roughly what it will sound like. but, you know, answering that question about from a journalist sort of, what was he states, his 99 year old daughter about this meeting. he said, we are meeting to try to make the world a safe place. where if they do make some progress on nuclear weapons, things like that, then you know, that will make the world a little bit safer. short know there was, you mentioned their issue of the ambassadors of course and that they've agreed to

essentially, that their ambassadors, the us and buster will return to their posting and moscow and vice versa. and what does that say to you? is that sort of a very symbolic new will say to say right, things are tension or east? well, i think it is assigned that they want to try to get back to the basis of diplomacy at all, you know, but it's a pretty low ball, you know, having an ambassador in your, in another capital city that really is pretty much the bare minimum of diplomacy, but it does have a price consequences and i think she will be hearing from oscar the u. s. embassy most very reduced by, by this you know, so we'll have practical consequences. and yet it is a part of an overall picture of the 2 sides. clearly, seeming to indicate again, we'll hear from by them later, but you need to indicate that they want to kind of step back from the brink of, you know, the west point relations and see if there are practical way to improve relations and make some progress on some things, certain in the language themed and positive at times mean you know,

home and ground. there is a glimpse of confidence between both moscow and washington constructive, which you mentioned yes or no hospitality, yet no hospitality. and some also quite warm words again by pushing standard for joe biden. there was, there was a moment where he started talking a little bit about the moods in the room, and that joe biden had had started talking about his family. they, he told stories about his mother cushion sort of said, well, you know, this isn't directly related, but he said that it shows his qualities and his moral values. and he found that appealing. so, you know, biden, we'll know what biden is, is like, you know, if he does it kind of times on the charm and the officer turned on the charm with routine to some extent. it was quite interesting to hear cruising telling of how that sort of landed within you mentioned as well that the president boynton was very different to president trump as well. and i believe you and he's an experience

statement as well. so, you know, very warm where it's in there. well, let's move on to sort of topics, which of course have been the cause of much of this tension and cyber attacks. and president putin didn't hold back in saying at one point that the majority of cyber attacks and d, u. s. were actually carried out by the us. yeah. yeah. and i mean, cyber is been, you know, growing bone of contention. they've been, you know, just in the near future we've been seeing more more stories about cyber attacks. some of them, apparently states both did come with them, apparently criminal, some of them in a greater and in between where, where nobody is really sure. and that is the thing about cyber warfare that it is in this grade. it's deniable, it's ambiguous. and you don't know when you find malware, you know who planted it. what is it, what is he going to do in that makes it incredibly difficult to talk about. so he did say that they're going to start consultations, the 2 sides about cyber. and this will be start probably of

a long journey and it will be that will be really difficult because the 2 sides have to think about, okay, do they try to come up this often? this is special rules of the road. you know, so we will accept it and we want to accept that. but really getting into the nitty gritty of that really starts to force you to kind of reveal a loss about your cyber defense despite your cyber offensive capability, things like that, that is high in sensitive because the more you go into that detail, the more you run the rest of the other side will then start taking advantages. advantage of that the difficult work that has to now be done, and we'll see, you know, in the coming months if they make any progress on it. but yeah, we shouldn't hold our breath for that. well, there was, you're saying that difficult work and that brings me then to some of his other words, which he said with us because it wasn't all positive. and he said us policy can be unpredictable and unstable. yeah. yeah, i mean, it, he, of course, with representing the russian view of the last 20 years also and often comes up

with christian is quite skilled that this practice of what about him, if he is accused of russia behaving in a certain way that is seen as negative, then he will often say, but the united states does this way if they can do it then, then why shouldn't someone else do that? so you had a fair bit of that, but yeah, i mean, on the subject of arms control, for example, you know, he was, he was asked about, you know, why russia being so unpredictable? why russia been such a difficult player in the world? see where he's rustled through no fewer than 3 arms control treaties where the united states were actually the ones who, who let them either lapse or backhouse with them. in the last 20 years, the united states would have a different perspective on that. but from his perspective, you know, he's saying, you know, the u. s. have been the ones who have not been abiding by these trees. he's, they've been behaving in an unpredictable fashion. i would rattle, of course,

you know, the events in the middle east of the last 20 years. so, you know, we shouldn't expect them not to represent the russian perspective. and it was quite similar on russian politics, you know, talking about the opposition figure, alexi, nevada, me, who cool notoriously, was poisoned with, brought his berlin for, for medical treatment. when he recovered return, then he was immediately put in jail. you can't expect, let me put it into suddenly with a back down and say, no, i'm going to let him out. this is all fine. you know, he was, he was as tough as ever on that. and i think we shouldn't really expect any progress on that. you know, the russian view of that is, this is out domestic fast. keep out, this is not your business, keep out of it. and also we touched on it before with regards to ukraine. and he was asked multiple times about as he sort of didn't want to appear to go into a to be in the beginning. he said that they believe that that they just just

touched on the subject point. but then he did go into it later on. i mean, he actually threw this back of the government saying that the government was not abiding by the midst records, which were the framework to try to deal with the conflicts. ukrainian government would say the same thing exactly. back to them, but it was what one thing that contributed to the sense of kind of crisis early this year. you remember that there was a big rush in truth build up along the ukrainian border. the big russian military exercise is going on that and pushing with adamant that you know, this is off on our territory. why shouldn't we do military exercise is the others i do that whole time. so yeah, but he did say that he was committed to the music process. you know, a lot of experts recently been saying that process is dead. so we'll see, you know, in the weeks, months ahead, if there is any return to, to some kind of structure and trying to deal with this. this conflict, he also did pick up on there was

a little bit of excitement of days ago during the nato summit, when president lensky of ukraine tweeted. nato had just confirmed that ukraine could apply to could join nato. ukraine has been in the kind of waiting room in front of later for a long time. joe biden quickly came out and sort of denied that and said, no, you know, ukraine would have to do a lot still to, to join nato. pushing with us about that, and he said that there was no change in the situation or later, there was nothing to discuss. now let's bring it to perhaps what the reaction might be here in germany, for example, to base. what has this had you think the tone of this press conference, if you know before, we have to wait and see what president biden says. but you know, there has been a sort of a desire here in germany. and of course the you for tensions to be east a little bit. yeah. would that, would you say it's being interpreted? well, i think we'll see how this is received. but broadly, i think the europeans,

not just the germans, but broadly the europeans were glad to see the summit happen. that it. and broadly, the view in germany always the dialogue is important. you know, that you have to keep talking and the risk of kind of the, the relationship breakdown getting worse if you're not in dialogue, is, is to great european. so obviously, you know, rushes on, they do that. they have an even greater interest in the stable relationship with russia than, than the americans do. so i think this, this will broadly be welcome. but one thing that is quite interesting is that just today, the european union has been presenting a sort of framework for its relations with russia. and they've kind of framed is around the 3 id is pushing back, constraining and engaging with russia. so pushing back and constraining both of those obviously pretty negative, engaging coming 3rd and b,

e u high representative burrell foreign policy. think that that order was relevant, you know, engagement sort of coming last so i think on the one hand, europeans, glad to see some dialogue happening. but on the other hand, they are realizing that, you know, when dealing with russia, perhaps it's time to get a bit tougher than they've been in, in recent years. all right, richard, we're going to just leave it there for a moment cuz we're going to cross over to terry schultz, who is standing by 1st of course in geneva and see how things are being interpreted there and being received at terry schultz who is in geneva. hi, terry. i know you were in helsinki for the us, russia, so maturing the trump administration. how was the tone of this meeting different? yes, actually, this is my 4th summit between washington and moscow. so i certainly have some history to drawn, but nothing was like that trump summit. so today, of course we've only heard half so far,

and we will be hearing from president biden. but when you listen to president couldn't speak, it's obvious. they have real conversations in their serious conversations, substantive conversations, and i come away really with the sense that latimer putin has a perhaps begrudging respect for president biden, who is well known for his foreign policy credentials. you can tell that they talked about some, some very neurotic issues between the u. s. and russian of all me was brought up, prisoners were brought up. actually arms control is the least contentious issue. surprisingly enough, they both already extended the new start treaty for another 5 years. so it was well expected that, that talk would go well. but does vladimir putin even said that there's hope now in the relationship? and as richard mentioned, they, they will take some practical steps like sending ambassadors back back to the respective capitals, and they will go ahead and launch further discussions now on what comes after the new start treaty limiting nuclear warheads. right now,

president biden had promised to set clear red lines for president to, to do after seeing the press conference. do you think he did this? well, president putin himself said that both sides understood each other's red lines. that was another of the comments that seem to, to be mutually respectful. again, we'll hear from president biden, but it was completely unrepentant on an issue that's very important to the united states. that of alexia volney and other opposition leaders and journalists and was asked point blank by an american journalist. why are all your opponents in jail or dead? and he said, well, they're criminals or, you know i'm, i'm not afraid of them. and he portrayed nevaeh me as wanting to be arrested when he came back from russia after being treated for the poisoning that we should point out. is it blamed on it on a nerve agent that is only really available to the, to the russian government? so he was definitely vladimir putin through and through, but he also portrayed

a president biden as, as a worthy equal. well, i mean, you mentioned there was that he was asked multiple times about alexis, me, terry. but there were other areas that were that he was asked about and, and sort of appeared almost hesitant to speak about it in the beginning at ukraine, being probably the most obvious one. what's your take away from that? it was for him, the ukraine is not really a big issue. yeah, he said that they agreed to continue discussing on the basis of the minced records, which have basically gone nowhere and not been productive. i'm not sure that the u . s. would have expected to get much further than that on ukraine because of course, while most of the world considers the annexation of crimea illegal and will not recognize it for russia. that's a done deal. so i think that this is one of those issues where most likely the united states laid out its position that crimea should be returned to ukraine and

that russia should quit supporting separatists in eastern ukraine. and russia would have held his own position that eastern ukraine. the people in eastern ukraine would like to be supported by russia, and of course he says the same thing about the people who live in crimea. now he also mentioned that the issue of cyber attacks came up as well as multiple times, and he had quite harsh words to say about the united states was not to be expected from a president. certainly, i mean, the russian government does not take responsibility for cyber attacks that are traced back to groups that could only exist with support from, from russian national institutions. so i don't think, i think this is another one of those issues where they would not, the united states would not have expected russia to give ground on cyber attacks because they don't accept responsibility for being behind many of these attacks. i

think this is, this is something though that, that definitely is a priority of the united states because look, it's crippled, major industries. it's, you know, the ransomware attacks have absolutely been devastating. and this is something that the united states will not let lie. alright, we'll leave it there, d w terry shows who's in geneva? thanks for that. right now we're going to cross over to moscow where dw corresponded. emily sherman is standing by and she's been tracking the story force there in russia. hi, emily, go to see you. and any surprises there from russian president vladimir putin. i think in a way the surprise was how positive of letting me put in sounded about bite. and especially considering that i think the relations between the 2 countries and between these 2 administrations started off on a real low point.