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and nato troops are leaving oxygen supplies are running out what happens when 19 attacks? a country war? welcome to koby $900.00 special. i want to get johnson berlin. thanks for joining us. by the start of the pandemic, we often heard that the corona virus is some grade level because it attacks rich and poor alike. but there's a difference. a lot comes down to a countries health care system, or the lack of it. this hospital in kabul has had to close its doors, no more admissions. it's full as are the cities, other main hospitals, cov, in 1900 patients line. the rooms struggling to breed capitalized with oxygen that's in limited supply. i'm on the agenda number of patients is high about 40 to 50 patients who need to be admitted come here every day, but unfortunately there is no more room for them for the with hospitals full,

a persistent shortfall of oxygen and a general failure to adopt precautions like masks and social distancing, afghanistan has entered its worst period yet. of the pandemic. for those turned away by doctors, it's a daunting task to get treatment. there's desperate demand for oxygen. families of the sick gather outside production plants hoping to get their cylinders refilled before it's too late. either monday that my father is sick and may only have oxygen for another hour or 2. i brought a small cylinder here to fill up with oxygen for him. but we have a problem here too, because some cars bring 40 to 50 cylinders, and those are filled up very quickly. and we won't get our turns on a mac. and i'm going to know that net and the oxygen crisis and gamma stand mimics

the shortages that nearby india faced weeks ago. and some would argue, was foreseeable. the acting minister of public health was summoned by law makers for an explanation on monday. the appeal is out for international aid, but supplies are still low. those who want oxygen now have to pay dearly. not that isn't making. i came here to fill my cylinder with oxygen because there's no more room for patients in hospitals. i bought the cylinder at a very high price, and it's very difficult because we make an appointment here at 10 o'clock at night . but it's not our turn until 10 o'clock the next day. rights groups have urged the government to procure more oxygen and back scenes. so far, only 2 percent of the population has received jobs. and years of war have already weakened the health care system. that's now one of the world's most unprepared for the pandemic energy. and for more, i'm joined by la royan. he's

a researcher and lecturer at the midst and faculty in of cognitive university in trouble. it also had of quality assurance. so very good to have you with us. and we've just seen this report. campbell's health care system overwhelmed by the spread, the virus. what's causing this crisis? why? campbell, not better prepared. thank you. thank you. regarding the great 19 infection as a street in rapidly and the digital rising, anybody did have percentages all the way visually and cobbler best of hospitals are not meeting new visions and the lack of medical personnel. and i guess

shortage has increased and i cannot find oxygen. and the other thing is that the kids, the power to end up fighting is either a big problem and i've run into the floor and they cannot afford to, to find it viable for your patients. and any money, any of the parking is going on, so they are not hospice and it is for, for the people for the fish. and so they gave them all of that. there are a lot of different factors to play, but the african government claims that it's spent $200000000.00 on planting the pandemic. where did all that money in top? that's right. the government claims that the $200000000.00 bank for biking agreed

19. but i think my point of view, we do not have, we don't see the effect of news of that money, which is a spent done. the people are testing a lot of problem, oxygen shortages, although, and especially in oxygen is not growing, does not end up walks in irrelevant for the other thing. the reports of cannot spend this money. so these are the things that we don't to i think it has not been effectively right. maybe one good thing if you can see anything good in all this afghan is done, is there a young countries from 70 percent of the population they're under 30. is that a good or a bad thing when it comes to fighting the pandemic? i think it is a, our route for song goes more,

most of the population is young. but we see that this is rising, this problem and 19 infecting both the old people. but maybe more and then young people have gone about, but is everybody sticking to measures? how do people protect themselves? are they all wearing masks? i know that the ministry of health has issued certain protocol people following that. another. another big problem in grammar is that the people are following through the data that i'm getting off so shows the stances around. i'm not going to go out to out of 10. maybe they are off and they are falling social distances. so

i know the cause of this is reading rapid 19, and this is the, this problem is finding that i know the protocol. why not the maybe monday, some people are not believing in grade 9 and maybe did come up before to buy it off. so, i mean the a lot of factors and they're going to also not forcing them from the foreign team, which for the depot doing to follow the social, the sense that i'm only asking you to follow that protocol. when i draw roy in from counted university in cobble, thank you so much for your time. thank you. thank you very much. thank you very

much. what time now for more of your questions and as always, eric williams is here to answer them. paul, what are the consequences of not receiving the 2nd do so the vaccine on schedule or not a told o different vaccines work in different ways. so there isn't really a kind of one size fits all response to this question. but one thing is really clear. that's that, it's definitely a bad idea to skip the 2nd shot of a 2 dos regimen completely. experts say that's because it plays an essential role in hyping up your immune system to deal with a possible future exposure. the 2nd dose encourages your body to generate particular cells that are able to, to remember starz toby too,

even though you might never have had at the 1st dose. initiates the response and sets the immune system on high alert. while the 2nd helps cement the memory of the pathogen providing more powerful protection that's, that's also likely to be a lot more long term. so although the 1st dose provides some protection, it's really important to follow up with the 2nd one because until you get it, you'll be a lot more vulnerable. the question of whether or not you can delay a 2nd dose is a little more tangled and our understanding of what doing that means is still evolving. the rollout in britain has contributed a lot to what we do know since it's focused early on getting as many people as possible. their 1st shots, which meant delaying 2nd doses from the recommended 3 to 4 week interval to, to up to 12 weights. and people who received the astrazeneca vaccine there,

the longer interval actually improved immune response. and a recent study still under review, implies that it might do so. and those facts, unaided with pfizer, by on tech, as well or, or at least and the elderly. the researchers found that in older people waiting 12 weeks between pfizer, by on tech shots instead of 3 to 4 weeks, caused a more powerful antibody response. in general though, authority say people need to still be getting 2nd doses after the recommended interval, simply because that's where we have the most robust data, the data from trials me. and just a reminder how fragile a controlled pandemic situation can be. new zealand says, paused it's travel bubble with australia, but after a traveler from sidney,

this is, was infected with co, with 19 that meet you're struggling with a spike in case numbers as local authorities announced a ban on people leaving the city for non essential reasons. and that's all from me and the team of koby. $900.00 special thanks for watching the news into the conflict with sebastian libya has a new government of national unity which promises free election by the end of the year. but the road blocks at faces are immense. alms militia groups, so whole power throughout the country, i guess this week as tommy virus,

maybe as an engineer, how will this new government succeed conflict? the when i asked, she was still a oh, they raped her to marry they tied her up. mm. so they could have her life to save me 45 minutes on d, w. ah, the news, it's about billions. it's about our it's about the foundation of an order. the new silk road. china wants to

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from where he joins me. how will this new government succeed where all the others have failed? the coming by a welcome to complex own. thank you. thank you for your 3 days off the new government of national unity was sworn in. there was a shocking reminder of how little unity there is in your country. up to 15 bodies were found handcuffed and done to the cement factory in the eastern city of bang ghazi, while life remain so cheap and murder is enjoy almost total. impunity in your country, there's nothing much to celebrate with this. new government is there. well, that's not necessarily accurate because we don't 1st of all, we don't know when this crime took place. secondly, as you know, during transition periods, things tend to be take a little bit of time to, to,

to come to more stable environment. but you're not suggesting to me that they're on daily killings and discoveries of mass graves. if these killings go on, this government will fail, like all the others wanted. that's the point. absolutely. therefore, it's extremely important for the international community, the united nations and all the mechanisms of the international organizations to come together and help the current government in every way possible. it's matter of fact here geneva, if you checked into this, you would know that we have passed a resolution that the 43rd session of human rights council. calling for a mechanism of accountability, calling for the ability to hold this impunity of crimes committed to human rights violations committed. so we are seeking the help of the international community, the united nations, with all the various organizations to step in and help us be able to put impunity at a stop when you have

a show much interest in doing that. in the past with previous governments have you . this was just the latest of many mass killings which i was talking about by the dozens of militia groups that fight daily for control of your country. and unless your government never mind the international community, but unless your government comes to grips with these groups, then you government is going to be justice policy, all the others, isn't it? well again, we have to give the government a chance. and let's keep in mind that the government has not even been in office for 30 days just yet. and there's a lot of work ahead. there's a tall order of tasks to be taken care of, including security and stability. but also keeping in mind that the role of the international community is extremely important partnership that would be as part time with the international community through the united nations is extremely important for the security disability, libya and the success of any government. so it's important for the international

community to do its part. let's not forget that we just came out of approximate. yes, i mean you can turn it over to the international community as much as you like, but it's got to be done on the ground. and this is a government and it's a weak government, and it's going to be very difficult for it to gain control of those groups that have been allowed to cap just so much of your state over previous years happening. and it doesn't look from what up the how may the baby has said you're into a prime minister, but he has very much of a strong commitment to either justice or more accountability. does it? well, you seem to be judging the government before you didn't have a chance to be able to do it by what it said or what it hasn't said so far. let's, let's judge by what has taken place a few weeks, but it has been in our house. let's look at the efforts that have already been done

to reno 5 institutions. let's look at the efforts that have been done and to civilizing the security situation. the country through the joint military commission, which let's keep in mind again, they ended a war and the last, you know, just a few months ago, we would not be talking to each. it's fine, it's a shaky see spot. so it's a bit premature to talk about the end of the war, isn't it? it's not a, a solid ceasefire. i agree, but it is nonetheless as cease fire stop hostilities and there is a chance for peace today. so let's embark on supporting this chance for peace. we've seen that there are, there are 2 major advantages in the debate, but government for the militia goods. firstly, he's weak. and secondly, for the time being he has the keys to the faith. so it's in their interest to do business with him, but for how long they want to chance to get bands on money. and i see that he's

already promised local government a flurry of construction project in various regions as long as he continues buying off these groups. they'll go along with him. if he starts getting tough with them, they'll get rid of him when they well, again, you know, you can, you can pose these questions to the prime minister and know what his plans are. but let's keep in mind that when we have a proxy war, countries that were involved supported some of these are groups in libya which caused much of the of the destruction and disarray that we have been in. number 2, keeping in mind that we have been calling for a d d r program to start program keeping in mind b, what d d? a sickly, basically taking these young men out of these are group malicious environments and in turning them into a more constructive and positive elements of society. this is going to take

a long time, isn't this is short term short term measure. this is only a government that runs for 8 months that's, that's not forget, that's an interim government, isn't it? absolutely. so let's not hold the government so accountable for resulting everything with the magic ones. so we asked me, we can hold it accountable for certain things and in particular for the very corruption it should be promising to fight. because even before the there were documented attempts by the baby supporters to bribe delegates to support him. that's pretty outrageous behavior isn't it? well those, those are allegations and that's what made by the un made by the un, so they're not based on nothing of it. well, the u. n is the same is the same entity that supported the dialogue and supported the coming of the government into law. so they did the support, the, the baby supporters who were trying to bribe delegates to vote for him,

did they know in support that, that well again, these are allegations that has not been proven that really sort and nothing has been stated by the when to that effect, well, are you an inquiry said the pm supporters of bribes, those i as $200000.00 to induce people to vote for him? un report was quite specific. he said at least 3 such bribes were offered, although all of them are apparently turned down. well, again, let's ask the wind about that and why the support of the outcomes of the, of the dialogue and then having the paper government come into into office. let's keep in mind again, it's a new government. it's a very well representative of the entire libya. it managed to brain the entire country together. this is the 1st time that we have one government, one legitimate, recognized internationally and nationally. and given the trust by the h o r, which has not been able to do so for previous governments. now how to

representatives? that is correct as representatives. so we, we are seeing some positive steps from the right direction. the picture is not rosie. we have a lot of work. we have a lot of things that we need to address. it is not something that's going to happen overnight. we need to build on the positive blocks that we have measured and been able to accomplish so far. you say that one of the worst aspects of these bribery allegations is that the baby was interim office. describe the claims as fake news when they clearly went, fake a toe. and that doesn't say much for the level of honesty or transparency that he says he's going to adhere to, does it? because his response to these allegations suggest that his government is going to be dishonest, as all the others have been, doesn't it? well, i'll be happy to connect you with his spokesman and he can address these concerns. for mister, the baby is reputation is pretty check. it isn't that he prospered mightily during

the dictatorship of mamma gadhafi. he ended up running the living investment and development, holding company, which itself was room to have been involved in corruption and money laundering. why should people trust him now, especially at this critical time? let's, let's, let's talk about looking at here because you're promising on, on allegations one particular individual who can address these allegations and sell obligations of the company. the company in particular that he did, he ran here, that city as the live representative of the united nations. let's talk about what positive things that we've been able to do. let's talk about the resolution that was passed in the rights council for accountability or human rights violations in the mass graves crime. that is, and libya. let's talk about the resolution that has been passed for repair termination of elicit funds that are rights rights we owned by the state of libya.

let's talk about the initiative that was supported piece initiative that was supported here in geneva, which led to the signing of the of the piece agreements and the cease fire in libya and a lot of positive things that we need to focus on. and we need to build on these, this is a direction that need to go want to get a chance to have a chance at peach. let's not forget things in prosperity. and this should be the benchmark. why libya for is young of a country that has, this is come out of nation, has been and military dictatorship rule for over for decades. then it had a revolutionary position periods where meddling a foreign countries and to the parents live capture and states capture by the armed militia groups that were against close to power and still in power. you talk about passing resolutions, passing resolution doesn't change. the fact that you have indicted war criminals

promoted to powerful positions in your country and, and they're still there. and there are plenty of examples of the month that i'm too gone the quickly also known as guinea. we're now head of a new entity called the stability support authority. he reports directly to the presidency. human rights groups have documented war crimes and serious rights violations by his forces for more than 10 years. for europe, the un reported these troops have previously opened far on civilians. none of that prevented his appointment. and is appointment is still in place. how is your country? can you tell me this? how is your country to move forward when these people who are suspected of serious war crimes are in these enormous positions of responsibility? well, i suspect, you know, i'm not here to be a court to judge on these individuals. i'm here to be able to unify the

international communities position and all the libya situation. and we need to address many issues, some of which are the ones you mentioned, but we also have to address and that's on the international. so the interventions and the interference of other countries into the affairs internal affairs of libya . if we work on that as far as i'm concerned for my position here. geneva, that is a major, i guess we need to work on a lot of runs, but this is what we need to focus on. we need to work on to unify the international positions on the we've talked a little bit about accountability and justice, amnesty international described in a report to month ago, the justice system in libya as dysfunctional and ineffective judges and prosecutors, it said risk assassination. and the duction for doing that jobs isn't a fact then, but virtually every check and balance,

every restraint on the legal power and criminal activity has now been removed in libya. hasn't that? how do you put all that back together again? well it's, it's processing, it's a complicated process and it requires a lot of work and we recognize that we do know that we have problems. we do know that we have major issues that we need to deal with. but we need to help our national people do that and how do we do that? we do that by stopping intervention and meddling into the general affairs. we stop the, the unit of the violate the security council resolutions and the violations of arms embargo by many states support. some of these factions talking about we do that by helping control the borders of, of libya. and lydia has been calling for, for a long time. the support of common share orders with our neighbors as well as the, our partners, european partners and to come in to help you to do that through the you bad in

agreements when we activate all those things we can, it's a domino effect. so multiply by this government is only designed to last until december, the 24th. that's the date when libyans are supposed to freely elect the next administration, that's only 8 months away. what chance does this week government have of organizing those free elections with the massive human rights abuses that are taking place in your country day after day? well that, that is correct. and they recognize that they recognize what their agenda is. but it's, it's a process, it's a building process. building blocks process. we have to start somewhere. we can realistic process. so it isn't, you know, you have the us special envoy for libya, young cooper's telling the security council last month that his office continues to document and her catalog brutality in your country killings enforce disappearances, sexual violence including right attacks against activists and human rights

defenders. and hate crimes. these are national responsibility. international communities are responsible for that. the meddling that you've talked about isn't responsible for that. that's coming from people. your own people inside your own country, isn't it? you think that sets the right conditions for free and fair election and libya in just on the a month? well, again, it's a building process. we have to take the major steps going forward in the right direction, positive direction. all these issues must be addressed. the international community does have a role in this. as a matter of fact, as i stated earlier, they international unity and some of the countries that have metal into the internal affairs of libya or the primary cause for some of these things that you're talking about. when need to be able to make a stop to that, make sure that we get a chance to address that concerns. it's problems. we do know that we've got this is going to take how long, how long you want to chance for when you had

a government of national court before that didn't do it. it was the government of appeasement. you know, it's prioritized paying off the groups and appeasing the groups over justice. is this government going to make the same mistake? the last one did, let's, let's be there and let's be looking fence right? that what you just said could, could be said about countries who paying off our group. so libya, what been causing much of these problems that you're talking about? we need to be able to address the issues as they are. so let's, let's, let's control the situation where libyans can handle the processes generally, and then we can judge and hold accountable. but government and what it can do and cannot do. well, i want to match the situation in the country to the prime ministers rhetoric,

if that's indeed possible. the new prime ministers on record, for instance, is like he wants to spread a culture of freedom of opinion and expression. how exactly will he do that when journalists have to work in constant fear in your country? the right group report is without borders says, for instance, that the total of abuses against john this the media outlets. biology, groups associated with successive libyan government has grown steadily. we're talking mother with abduction, we're talking torture here. you keep focusing on the crimes and we recognize those crimes and we do understand that there were there to quite then the big ones. then they pretty important ones on the course there. that's why i think is going through a transition. that's why we need to get out of this violence violence phase and be able to get into the restoration of the country institutions, the able to set into their civilian democratic states and be able to give that human rights to the living. people keeping in mind again that is the benchmark that

established early on in the conversation. this is a new culture that we have to go into that we are not so well experienced about. we do need the help to be able to accomplish that. and the will, is there, the, the goals and the object has happened, sets every 17th, 2011, and wanting to, to, to set up a democratic state that is based on freedoms. that's based on justice based on the ability to prosper and do well. and the current, those are the great woods, but how do you get that? how do you get there? and you have these enormous roadblocks in your past and you get there, you're not it without a free press. you don't have a basis for democracy. you don't have a free press, there's not a law in libya guaranteeing the public's right of access to information. is that what one of the chances they'll ever be one in libya will you know what's in there

are more tv stations today than ever were before. you know what the people are talking about wanting to set up freedom of speech in libya. not only that, there is more freedom of speech today in libya that ever was in the history of libya . really, really? we do. reporters without borders, says libya has reached its lowest ever position in the groups. well, press index once 164 out of 180 countries that's worse than during the good duffy era. that's a huge step backwards, isn't it? well, again, i don't know what information they're basing their, their reports on, but we do, do we do need to recognize that there is more of a chance to be able to set up a civil state set up on democratic values on freedoms, on justice today than we ever had a possibility to be able to do so in the past history of libya. and we need to be able to capitalize in that. we need to be able to support that. we need to be able

to work on that. and we recognize that the order is but there is the will and there's a commitment to want to go down the staff. and we need to get the commitment by all libyans and others. the international community included to support that. even before the libyans get to the december elections, this government is committed to holding a referendum on a new constitution. again, how you doing form the public without a free press is, is up to you. but what if you miss the deadlines? what if you missed the deadline to this new constitution and the new elections? it's pretty tight, isn't it? sees unravel. if you don't get there, it is very tight and you know the possibility of missing the deadline as possible. as a matter of fact, she did, nation has, has missed many deadlines in the past, in the process of coming to this point. so we do need to work. the commitment again

is there, the will is there, and the efforts are underway. keeping in mind the, the process has already been established with some other deadlines. there is a july 1st deadline to agreement on a constitutional basis to passing a legislation to ensure the elections law and the preparations for the highly thorough commission to do its work to allow for the 24th of december elections. but there is also another very important deadline. there is a deadline that we have already passed. the international community has passed. the united nation has passed the exit of all 4 fighters and mercenaries out of libya. that has yet to happen. that isn't extremely important because stability and security again to your point is extremely important to be able to do these objections in a stable and secure environment list by away heard a lot of ground rhetoric from the prime minister about libyans being one unit,

one hot that hot hasn't been much in evidence these last few years. has it look at the shocking way migrants have been treated in your country in the last 2 months? hundreds of them have been intercepted, trying to freely been small boats and had for europe. do you know why they're so desperate to leave libya and you know, what happens to them when they're brought back to libya, these migrants, many of them, you know, that yes, i do as a matter of fact and but let me correct you what you're saying is not accurate. number one, these microphones when they left their towns in their villages, from the various countries in africa, they set their mind and going to the northern shores of the mediterranean. they were not coming to libya. libby as a transient country, everybody knows that the same reports that you refer to you and reports. everybody knows that, but also, and yet you, in libya, they continue to be systematically subject to arbitrary detention and torture in

both official and unofficial places of detention. you proud of that? no, i'm not proud. we do have problems and looking government has recognized and continues to recognize the violations of the problems that we have with my religion. government has been associated with these violations has been directly associated with these violations at 10. let me, let me just finish this point. it's extremely important. what you're referring to constitutes a crimes or alleged crimes on a population of about 4000 makers in detention centers or with all gathering and do for and departure facilities. its in yet human human what treatment it's parity risk. it's in human treatment. we're talking about sexual violence, abduction for ransom. extortion, forced labor, unlawful killings. it doesn't matter whether it's 4000 or 4000000. why? why are you,

what does it say about your people that you are treating migrants in this way? that is not correct to your information is not fully accurate. you're reporting half of the information that has been out there. let me also repeat to you as i was stating the, the legit crimes that you're talking about, which the government has been dealing with and continues to work with you with, with the various you and organizations is concerning some facilities where there is no more than or $5000.00 at the most migrant that happened to be in the facilities because they're supposed to and un resolutions also know that these are migrants that are supposed to be limited to another country. but the rest of the, of the miners that we have, and we have about a 1000000 in libya, live really and safely among all libyans throughout libya, all right, time in via we run out of time. thank you. thank you for making that point and

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