tv Supermacht KI Deutsche Welle June 25, 2021 1:03pm-1:45pm CEST
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than half of leaders signed a letter underscore in the e. u principal of non discrimination over sexual orientation and gender identity. the european commission has already begun a legal procedure against budapest over the legislation. another departure from the planned agenda on russian relations a last minute franco german proposal to invite vladimir putin to a summit. that suggestion failed to gain support to the german chancellor chagrin because he heard me stop and we couldn't agree today to immediately meet at the high level at the leaders level. but for me, it's important that the format of a dialogue will be further investigated. i personally would have wished for a more courageous, but it's great as it was awkward lithuanian president, hugh thomas now said it is also pleased with the outcome because the proposal failed. i think it's too early because we are so far, we don't see any radical changes for behavior or bad behavior of what the mirror put in and tried to engage useful
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costs. very good idea, but it to engage with valid any deadlines, without any pick conditions. of course it would be very wrong signal. i would say leaders did cover other subjects on migration. they focused on how to stop it at its source. and on the corona virus, they called for more solidarity and coordination on efforts to fight dependent mac and to reopen travel next up prospects and programs for economic recovery. and for more on that, let's bring in brussels bureau chief alexandra phenomena allison. i'd like to begin by asking you about this failure to reach an agreement on the summit with russia. walk us through the main sticking points. so germany in friends came forward with this proposal to hold a summit with blood the me put in shortly before the use summit. a started saying that it's important to have this dialogue with rush out for the block stability.
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and that it's not enough for that. you asked president joe biden to talk with a bloody me put in the european the leaders should do it too. however, this proposal was rejected by the majority of the leaders who said it's too early to talk about that. and who said that 1st russia has to change its aggressive behavior. and we have to stress that those high level talks were suspended off to the annexation of crimea in 2014 and since 14. and since then, their relation on the relations only got worse. and suddenly there was also told us that they didn't want to elevate vladimir putin. and this is actually a very interesting point because the kremlin had signaled they were very eager to have such somebody with b, e leaders. and now they are saying after this proposal was rejected to that the was hosted to aggressive minority. so a clear attempt to drive
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a wedge and the use unity here. and speaking of wedges in unity, there's also a big, controversial rift over this l. g. b t q law in hungary or bond is not backing down, but many leaders are saying it's homophobic. let's listen to what the dutch prime minister said from last me hungry no longer has to please me you. but unfortunately with the system we have, i can't, or the other 26 member states can't just tell them to leave. that needs to be done step by step in the meantime, we hope dillard up. this is just the latest controversy that's coming out of hungary, alexander house is likely to play out. well, it was a very bold statement here, but i think it's fair to assume that our leaders felt in the same way. and we have this very heated and emotional discussion over the new law and a hungry was going to happen next. it seems indeed that victor albany is not
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thinking about backing down. and in this case, the european commission half announced there are going to court. however, we know that that could take a while and hungry in the past has shown that they are not afraid of ignoring court rulings. however, there is a new mechanism that has been established by the european union and mechanism linking you funds to the rule of law. so we can expect that the european commission later this year could propose, if we, the freezing of payments from the you budget to hungry. if the situation is not going to change. what do all of these disagreements tell us? just about the general state of unity, right? now in the u, i think that showing us that the european union is facing the new challenges. european union was established as a clump of democracies,
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a counter model to dictatorships and also returning regimes elsewhere. and now this block is facing also we carry an undemocratic tendencies within their club. so what you're seeing right now it's showing us it's telling us that the you is not well equipped to to meet the new challenges. alexandra phone, numbe and in brussels. thank you. in kenya, there is an alarming surgeon cove at 19 cases, pushing health providers to the brink, health officials more of the highly contagious delta variant. first identified in india is responsible for the rise and infections. the w visit at a hospital in costume, where oxygen is in short, supply screams for more oxygen, the intensive care unit, and consumer hospital. one of the biggest in kenya. yes, nurse nicholas piano has seen
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a 3rd of his covert patients die. you might think of if you might think the patient is improving, they might talk to you in one second and then they're just collapse and die. the i see you as for a piano and his colleagues overwhelmed, they just lost another patient with the hearing patients calling from oxford. and sometimes with kegan, that's about 15 people who are struggling for their lives and we just had to witness how did 40 has been removed out of a room full of patients. and as you can see, the same as quickly being filled again. the hospital director is worried, they need 5 times more oxygen and far more high flow oxygen machine than they have . and we in africa need those high flow devices. they're very expensive, so we kind of for them we lose lives that could be saved because these devices are not available. health officials believe the number of coon of cases is much higher
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than recorded, especially in villages where people can't afford the transferred to a hospital. come on, come true. well jennifer, we g bird, her younger sister 2 days ago. it went very fast just as a bad headache, fever, shortness of breath. when it all started on a sunday, when you learned church, she felt unwell by the time saturday came, it was too much for her to bear. she was taken towards the door and the same day she died. death has come to this village residency. there's been 50 birds here in recent weeks. the only oxygen plant in the region has reached breaking point and won't be able to meet an increasing demand. i'm getting so many calls from the person who need to do will need to be home to
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people of the regular us as soon as possible. then the next few minutes. that's a little gone back at the sumo hospital. there are some good news. a patient who has been dependent on oxygen for weeks will be released soon. somebody should not, you know, cut out and that is not the thing is really when you want to taste life, just try to remove whatever they're giving you where you are in treatment. then you feel it's luck was on his side and the health system, so overstretched. luck is what these patients will need. and here's the look of some other story making headlines. australian authorities have ordered residence of neighborhood from central sydney to stay at home for a week. it's part of measures to contain a growing outbreak of the highly contagious delta variant of over 19. several dozen cases have been reported to belter has voted in favor of eating is strict abortion
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log. 62 percent of residents voted to relax. the government's proposed legal changes to allow termination when a woman's mental or physical health is at risk. or when fetuses have fatal physical abnormalities. the death toll from the class of the miami apartment block has risen to 3 people while nearly 100 people remain on accounted for. the rescue workers are trying to search the rebel for survivors. the reason behind the collapse is not yet know. a tornado has torn through the south eastern part of the check. republican killed at least 3 people. that tornado entered. dozens of people and damaged homes in several towns along the czech republic, southern border. thousands of household war without power. austrian and philosophy in rescue units have rushed into assist. check authorities in the emergency response. tornadoes are
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a very rare occurrence in the region. let's get more now. we are joined by in willoughby. he is a journalist with radio prague international in eye witness accounts of the moment that the storm struck. can you describe them to us? what we saw here last night was something like a hollywood disaster movie. people were thing that they saw in cars flying through the air, the re, many images today of damage to cars. lots of buildings were also damage to, with the roof, blown off. windows blown as the image is coming out today from the unity. they're really quite shocking the whole place looks like nothing but a war zone. even the prime minister under banish describe the situation and i close a real a homeless. what is the status of the rescue operation? well present, they've told us that for life to be lost, that's the latest new the lead for life this morning. over 100 rescue teams looked
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through the damage building. but a short while ago, which i for a service, came out and said nobody. and they were not moving on to the preparation, and that's going to be a massive job. the check army will also be involved, and they, they clearer the focus, it's getting very much toward material damage. the check red cross, something like hundreds of families lost their home. the prime minister said about 2000 buildings were damaged. the ministry of the interior has relieved over 60000000 euro to help in the communities. ministry of finance is giving tax breaks to businesses in these areas. there also be charging collection. let us bring out overnight and people have been sending, sending a lot of money towards those. and also major online crude suppliers in the czech republic, being delivering food as a to these areas. we're thing that i am public strong sense. darcy, i mean,
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tornadoes in this area are rare. and tell us a little bit more about that. why did this happen? whether stream, the rare, what we saw yesterday evening was the kind of twist your, as you might expect to see somewhere like in the midwest of the united states. only in central europe. such tornadoes are where they are rare in the home of europe. apparently the only been about 2 dozen tornadoes on the same 4th is the one that we saw last night in europe in the last 2 decades. the last major tornado here in the public was in 2004. but they're saying that the one that we saw last night was the strongest tornado ever seen in modern history. wow. and will it be joining us journalists with radio prague international with the latest on the ground there after the tornado has hit the area. thank you so much. in bella. ruth blogger rama unpacked that sandwich has been moved from detention into house arrest . he and his girlfriend are now in an apartment in missile. they were arrested in
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may after the dramatic interception of a ryan airplane on its way to bilious from athens authorities in bella. ruth, for the plane to land admins where the couple was taken into custody. the arrest prompted. international outrage, european union, and post sanctions on beller road over the road. and for more i'm joined by d w. corresponding economy who has been covering bel ever since the beginning of last summer's protest. nick, what should we make of this move and do we have any information about how he's doing and his girlfriend? of course. well sir, i think this is a question of divide and rule by the government regime there in minsk remote service has for a large part done what was expected of him after that extraordinary hijacking of that run our plane. he's taken part, basically the hostage in press conferences run by the government. he's given interviews, he's obviously decided not to try and play them all through that and go along with
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what his cap does want from him. so i think they're trying to kind of send a signal to other position. figures in better is that if you play along, if you give them what they want, then you'll conditions of sense and will be ease. you will be out of jail and be in house arrest. but if the legal proceeding get him and his girlfriend are still ongoing and he's fall from free. i think part of a big patent of all kinds of different repression against people who have spoken against the regime in dollars. some are in prison that kind of top political figures who refused to give up and refused to cooperate, elect miraculously been in jail since last summer. lots of others go to work during the day in the towns and then go back to prison to sleep. other people have had very sentences, hands out against them, which means they call it getting certain jobs were forbidden from leaving the country. so it's sort of the question of looking everyone up in jail. it's a wide range of options. the regime is keeping going to put people under pressure and to make it clear to them that thing the government don't pay hundreds are still in jail. in fact, we understand mean by some estimates. next to tell us to me, we know that that, that the e u,
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for example has imposed sanctions or rather deep into their sanctions. on bell over is how far is that going to exert some pressure on lucas shan't go? why i think the sanctions are it's case of too little too late. yes, they're important, but it is really hard to understand why it's taking so long. it's basically years since that recollection for sanctions that really her previously the years basically imposed travel bands on members of the lucas anchor regime. who basically weren't allowed to go to europe anyway because their own government didn't let them leave the fear of them being spoken to by west next intelligence services or others . so this is really the 1st time that brussels has shown his teeth that we're look think has been extraordinary rude about the urban union, basically calling to paper type of thing. they like to complain about human rights abuses. but when it comes to do it, they don't have the courage to really get tough with me. i think it's a little early to connect these sanctions to this case. i think the bigger picture here is that lucian goes now wholly dependent on russia. he basically wasn't
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planning, was expecting any kind of support from the you. i think he's field, he's but those bridges. and for now this is more important signal to the opposition in dollars that europe is still paying attention. still carrying and willing to take some business hits for the for the sake of supporting the opposition movement in nic connelly, breaking it down for us. thank you. you as president joe biden is that to host his african counterpart. osh, ralph connie at the white house later today, the to our meeting as us troops withdraw from afghanistan, leaving a power vacuum which the taliban is preparing to fill. biden has previously promised billions of dollars and security assistance for afghanistan. but as taliban forces gained ground, it's not clear if that will be enough to hold them back. searching for anything they can salvage merchants pick 3, what's left of a former us base bag room once but nerve center for operations in afghanistan.
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this is what remains here. after america the longest overseas war, the even north, the taliban is on viewed france steadily gaining territory, taking district after district. the u. n. is sounding the alarm. most districts have been that have been taken. surround provincial capitals suggesting that the taliban are positioning themselves to try and take these capitals. once foreign forces are fully withdrawn. for calm before the storm, here in the provincial capital of condos. residents can only wait at the front line was closer. africa and security forces seem powerless to stop the advance in cardboard for militiamen men who fought against the taliban decades ago. and now returning to arm to boast of a defense more juncture. then we've gathered here to defend the republic,
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freedom of speech, and the independence of afghan is done. if a taliban one piece, we will make peace with them. i got all of them. what if they want to fight? we are ready for that. i got young and we will defend our last, i mean, the former going to embolden 5 us withdrawal. this 20 by commander confidence victory for the americans. so for the african government is a slave administration on this. when the americans leave, it won't last 5 days. that can do that on mystical willie. more than half of all us troops, i've already left the country. the rest will follow by september, the 11th. more work i've done is done scrap merchants. and for more i am joined now by journalist alley, lead tv, and cobble and we've, we've been seeing their, the taliban making quick gains in the past days. how high is the fear that they could return to power and the government could potentially collapse as foreign troops withdraw? i think i think the question is even if the total of on you know,
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do try and return to power what they do it in the violent way, where they take over the country and, you know, sort of impose what they did in 1996 again, and would they even be able to do that? can they actually run a country, you know, in the previous package they, the un representative had said something about them wanting to take provincial capital. but if you look at it, they've tried to kick provincial capital over, you know, the last 20 years and they've been able to take, basically just those for a little while. but keeping and running it is something else entirely and running the country and taking over country is also something else. especially if you end up being a for i if the, again, as they were 96. yeah, but of course, you know, in the meantime in the past 20 years, there have been foreign force is also on the ground. so. so tell us, you know, because the government, this week it launched what is called the national mobilization army. local
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volunteers. is that really the best hope going forward and was the pay about the fate of security forces in afghanistan right now to, to push the telephone back. it raises a lot of questions about the, about the, say, the security. because what we have to remember is that the government may try and play it as these are people in support of the government. they want to keep the current republic going even when they say they want to keep the republic going. it's more this idea of democracy and not necessarily the current government. so the fear is that once the war somehow come to an end and all of the thousands of people still have these guns and these weapons, well they actually turn them over and will they basically just go back to being civilian and do what whatever the government at the time is, you know, go back to that sort of a life or will it end up being a repeat of the civil war or the 1990 is where different groups, different city they all, you know, basically turn their guns and their rockets on each other and the city of called
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ball was like, destroyed so, so it's a major issue of can the government actually control the people and are these people actually really behold into the government? are they really backing the government against that backdrop? are they? what do you think president connie wants as he meets with you as president joe biden and in washington now, because i mean that you have class before on competing visions for the future of the country by it. and, you know, put forth a plan, for example, to allow for an interim government, which would have had danny step down, got rejected that. so, i mean, how, how did they move forward now? and what is gonna want, what does he need? i mean, he needs to stay in power, right. he needs to feel like he's being supported. he needs to feel like he can continue to roll the country, all of which look more and more unlikely. you know, as the days go by. but really, the question that everyone's been asking is,
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is this something where biden told the doctor, i mean doctor de la. com. so the way out, or is this something that they requested? because that changes the optics a lot. right? because some people are saying, you know, the to failing scholarship student coming to talk to the principal about why they're failing. and other people are, you know, they're, they're going to request things and they're going to want things. but are they really in a position to ask for anything, especially if you consider what biden's been saying all along. so will be really interesting to see the tone between the 3 leaders. let's talk a little bit more about the civilians and in particular, you know, the thousands of ask and citizens who helped foreign forces as they were fighting the taliban over these past decades. fighting has pledged, for example, that they will not be left behind. and that relocation plans have been accelerated . how critical is the situation for, for these individuals and, and is the time table appropriate?
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because apparently, you know, some of these relocation plans won't happen until august if at all. and that's the thing, right? so that lead in less than a month basically, or maybe just a little bit more than a month. you know, the tall want to put out a statement recently saying that as long as the people the that the specifically referred to the interpreters saying that as long as they were pad and they show remorse, we will do anything to them. but there's really no way of knowing whether or not to go with that. and whether or not people would actually say would say we regret what we did. and so, yeah, it is, there really is 2 and a half months, really enough time to do this. why haven't they been, you know, doing this all along? absolutely. and these people presumably have targets on their backs, so to speak. i li latifah journalist with a view from koppel. thank you so much. and with that now you're up
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way. i'm not going to have my own car and everyone with me to hold and every day getting you ready to meet the job and then join me. rachel, do it on the w. me as covered cases spiral upward and new warnings resound, people in many parts of the world find themselves wondering if the summer respite we'd hoped for could come to an abrupt end. all thanks to a new and especially adaptable strain. first identified in india, it's known as the delta variant, and is significantly more contagious than previously thought. after completely overwhelming india's health care system and causing mass suffering and death, the very end to spread more than 80 countries. vaccines should stop it from spreading, but it's a race against time. and with many countries already returning to normal,
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the re imposing rules could be difficult. corona mutations, how densely is delta the news? welcome to to the point. it's a pleasure to welcome our jeff to p. s. court is an a p, the me all the just from the charity in berlin. and he says, the best way to counter the delta variant is to intensify the vaccination campaign and engage in more target surveillance. rather than talent. c'mon, greg. and it's a pleasure to welcome benjamin over his group or he is a dw colleague from chile, and she believes the worrying developments in chile should be a warning sign for those who pledged to reopen as fast as vaccination campaigns gather steam. and we're very glad to have back on the program and kit to look up
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her. yeah, she is. a dw corresponded based in delhi, and she is convinced we need to rely on scientific expertise along with rigorous safety measures. if we want to spread, present rise of more dangerous, very young. so let me begin by asking you, dr. ker 2, you know, we've got sunny days here in berlin. we've got bomb the evenings, plummeting infection rates. things have been looking pretty good. and now i find myself thinking, are we going back to where we were at the end of last year? are we really seeing a dramatic risk of another spike? i know you say we shouldn't be doing panic mongering, but how dangerous is it? well, 1st of all, we should enjoy right now, just to asian, and this is that the numbers are going down. so the infection rate is really on a, on a really wouldn't see a record low, but it's reassuring. yes,
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the pandemic situation is not over. there is a risk that we see a potential increase in the fall again, however, we have to look in more detail. so p c r, test positive doesn't mean there's a consequence, doesn't mean that if i have a positive test result, i can spread or give the virus to someone else. we need other informations really tell that also you may get mild symptoms if you've actually made it, but may not get severe disease. so we have to look a little bit more careful while that and thing just p c r test positive, which will go up very likely in the fall. so it depends on the setting on the region of the country. the number of people estimated whether this is a true risk or not. we should be respectful. we should be on alerts to really watch the situation closely. but to really now i think what may have happened or what we will happening to fall. i think it's a little bit too early to, to be alarmed in the way that we are having panic. let me go to cater because you said in your statement that we need to rely on scientific expertise. and in fact,
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india is working to sequence thousands of samples at the moment. so what do we know so far about why the delta variant is so dangerous and whether it or new mutations like delta plus could elude existing vaccines? what, oh yes, dennis for this game as compared to what happened in the last week in april and me, you have classified the delta plus really into the concern. so that means there is evidence going on in the tracking of these cases, but what induced to lex is a lot of research into why the delta v and leading to so many so much hospitalisation. the research is not happening because the focus has no completely shifted from listening to exports, to focusing more on, you know, administrative stuff like, you know, doing oxygen, you know, imposing, locked down because, you know, you cannot afford to have another, you know,
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leave. so that's been the issue at that then, but what need to understand is the delivery and when it will expand its, you know, with wheat more people are more vulnerable populations. the cooking is actually should be like really low. thank you very much. and we're going to come back to that in just a moment. so one place where the vaccination rate has been very high. if your country benjamin, till a, in fact, the more than 78 percent of the population has now been vaccinated. 162 percent twice and yet a new wave of infection is washing over chile. why? what are the scientists they are saying? the scientists are saying that they warrant the politicians or took the positions on one side. have sheila, with an incredible vaccine campaigned you just mentioned the numbers when we have chilly, where for example, israel countries who have had a very successful and very quick vaccine roller. but on the other side, is you politicians taking decisions like in lifting mobility,
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giving people the chance to go from one place to another, even if they had both vaccines having this dynamic current teams that mean that if you're living in the city in one place, you can move freely and then the other ones you have to be isolated at home. and of course, if there's a lot of mobility, even if you have a lot of people, a lot of the high percentage of the population that have been vaccinated, they will not be efficient. and then you will have high numbers, like the ones that we're seeing now, and chill is entering winter now. so the numbers are expected to continue increasing, strengthening, and getting the hospital salt in a read difficult situation that they don't have capacities. and many of this intensive care units anymore. thank you very much. let me ask you to be a score. what lessons can we learn from it? surely i think many of us in, in fact in your opening statement, you also talk about the need to intensify the vaccination campaign. and i think many of us thought that if we did that and it has intensified here in germany now,
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for example, that the likelihood of dangerous new mutations would fall in. apparently that's not the case. and surely, i don't think that the likelihood the very and develops is falling, but the likelihood the people get sick or spread the virus so, so that's something different. so the development of area and will continue on the global level for sure. as many people get infected and that's more people get infected, there will be a very and in that specific setting, which then is superior to other variance. which does not mean that we take that virus and put it in another setting that it will act in the same way. so we have to really carefully look at the data, collect the right data, carefully see how the dynamic changes in terms of number of people's vaccinated, number of people getting sick, number of people testing positive what it means for their respective setting. so it's important to not just look at one number. we have to look the totality of economic situation before we make decisions. but we have to be careful ends on
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earth to we did not say ok, things are over and communicate that know things are not over, fix can come back. but the question is how? so from what i'm hearing, we have to remain vigilant. even if we get close to that holy grail of her community. yes, but her community is it is not a specific number. it's dynamic depending on the likelihood that a virus spreads. this will affect to the, to cut off of a so called heard him unity. so we have to be on alert, but without being panicking is specifically in germany on the global level. again, many countries never had the chance to get one person vaccinated because i don't have any exceeds available so far. we come back to that later, i believe. so it's really important to understand the situation and to have a surveillance system that actually works. and we're looking at the right numbers. one other very quick follow up question many people and surely were vaccinated with the chinese vaccine with sign of fun. does the fact that infection rates are rising reflect defects in that vaccine? no,
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i think even if you've executed with any vaccine you can test positive. the question is, what does it mean you really getting sick and i'm not familiar with the numbers in in she lives. so it's not just looking at testing positive because that likelihood exist even after beyond tag or madonna or seneca. so is so i don't think it's a question of quality of the vaccine that has been given out and chilling benjamin . do you want to weigh in on that point? no, i agree. told me, and i think what's important, it's not just the vaccination, but the crisis communication to say not go into panic and the delta vary in this coming. i mean, authorities into, let's say it hasn't reached the country. yep. that's, let's see. it's only a matter of time, right? but it's to say, the pen demik is not over, the numbers are rising, and we cannot just rely on the vaccines to say, if we vaccinate amount of people in the country that they, the cases will go down because it's not the case. then let's talk a little bit more about precautions and,
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and also take another look at travel because of course we are now moving into summer. and many people have been hoping to have a semblance at least of the cation so, and keep in india, the religious festival come, bella is often blamed for having been a super spreader in the late winter, early spring, to what extent was travel implicated in that terrible search that we did see in india and have people changed their attitudes in regard to travel i would say in terms of traveling in the state, there has been a good option. people are actually more than aware of a scared, especially with the not in the writing. the more of that. but what we need to understand is that when public transport it's already started opening up and play in big cities like being the the bang alluded with, saw puke. so you know, last month. so we have the see public transport opening up. there is
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a taken public transport and in a country with over a 1000000000 people, it's very difficult to socially distant. so it's very necessary for a government. i rating that, you know, you'll have to maintain social distance and you have to wear and mosque. you know, you have to get back to me that and i think the, the issue that's happening right now is that people are becoming very confident that they've got the 1st job. so they're probably, you know, beef, but that's not, that's not true. you know. so you have, we have to be very careful in terms of the city, inter steep transport. thank you very much. and in fact, benjamin, i've seen reports that into a apparently during the holidays between december and february, there was quite a bit of travel by people between their 1st and their 2nd vaccine. when apparently they did not have full resistance yet. so travel implicated. there's, well, i gather, yeah, there was even a holiday permit where you could go to the beach and visit families as well. so it's also the death,
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the contradiction on one side saying you have to take care. but on the other side, it's possible to get this permit, and people who have now the to vaccines are able even to move. so some ability pass and the scientific worlds as well. we don't need now is to increase mobility. so that's, of course, is also something that should be discussed about not just traveling in the country, but also trying to get out of the country. in fact, when it comes to mobility, the british government has also been banned for not for been criticized for not abounding travel from india as early as needed. and we need only look at the now to see how infectious delta is the new variant is now almost exclusively responsible for a surging infection rate. that prompted authorities to postpone the long promised lifting of lockdown restrictions. and it's causing worry elsewhere as well. great britain responded to the delta covariance with a massive vaccination campaign. even though the country has the highest vaccination
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rate in europe, the delta variant is spreading throughout the country like wildfire. the outbreak started in march before spreading all over britain. london was a hotspot in the lockdown. reopening in england has been delayed. portugal has turned to more drastic measures. residents of the capital lisben are prohibited from leaving the city on weekends. the police even patrol the exit ramps in april the country had the lowest inspection rate in europe. the delta variants may have come in by a britain. british tourist and portugal weren't required to quarantine, like in other european countries. and these images are from europe full beer gardens impact bars as well as full stadiums for the euro 2020 championship in europe, heading into the next wave without a plan that occurred. what's your answer to that? last question is the situation in the u. k. in portugal,
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a wakeup call for all of europe. should we be doing things differently? if you believe different, let me get over it. yes, there should be a wake up call that that things can, can change quickly. it is and remains it, and that makes it the way sion we have to be careful. in traveling, the virus itself doesn't travel in the host, humans, or animals in this case humans. so if humans travel, we can test concurrently. we know all this and we have to implement this will be extremely careful to not running into the next week. then the lesson, your opening statement, you didn't advocate a new blanket locked down. you said we need targeted surveillance. in fact, at the height of the 2nd and 3rd wave, it became very difficult for authorities to track infection change. there were simply too many cases has that change. now that infection rates here, at least in germany, are falling right now. that should be possible. again, we should try everything to maintain that level that we can trace and track and then really know what's happening. but also we need information about how likely it
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is that a person can spread the virus. so there's another disability for example, that we need to take into account that the person travel or profession has that person so that we really understand the situation rather than saying everyone locked on. because i think that's not a good solution that we have to learn better over the last month. hopefully. thank you very much. and let me ask benjamin, because you of course, are based here in germany. and i know that this new locked down in lisbon, in the postponement of lifting of measures in britain, they do have a lot of people here worried. on the other hand, people are just getting used to this new normal things seen so. so good and relaxed . you think that it's going to be very hard for people here to accept if new restrictions do, in fact have to be put into place.
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