on berlin up next is doc film taking a look at the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. that's the biggest international court of its kind to date. because to buy much more news analysis and video on a website on b w dot com. i'm really mohammed, thank you for watching faces, who's imagine so many portions turn out in world climate change conference stores. this is much like the way from just one week. how much less can really get we still have time to act. i'm doing all this. oh i

know of to world war to the people if you could love you, lived in peace under the grip of an alternate. terry and leader yourself brought to the city in 1980 tito died and the regime began to crumble in the 6 constituent republics. a new generation of leaders used nationalism to win over the people. you grew up in society where your neighbor, so different religion. and you didn't see them like enemies. now suddenly you have this, you know, parties coming around talking that your neighbor is enemy that you need to be what she me, where it carefully in 1989 flow bought in milosevic became president of serbia, casting himself as defender of the the,

i don't think he believed in nationalism use nationalism to one and one and only to keep slow, but i'm a loss of which in power. and if you're supposed to fear with the other, it's an incitement to violence and then violence comes very quickly in 1990 to roll broke out in boston, yet milosevic supposed to call me and serves his ami, led by it out of on current teach. and radco mileage committed genocide in sampling . it's yeah, in 1998 milosevic then truth because of the resulting in moments because milosevic became the 1st head of state to be tried for war crimes. the start of a new era for international justice i

use, i was born in a small town in castillo. there was small number of serbian families with majority of the population where i'll be in. but you could feel the tension good that it's sunday is on saturday for mark and day and it gets really busy. i like it when i, if after my father was thrown at work and things were getting bad, i think my parents decided to leave the country to, to have a better life for us. they decided to suite and they already had family members

there. but then unfortunately, we were back we will not consider those refugees at that point because things hasn't been as bad. for example, it was happening and after the break up a few slow via kosovo was a disputed region. at the time it was part of serbia, though more than 80 percent of its population were cross albany and they wanted independence. but for milosevic cause of belong to serbia. the in the mid 19 ninety's kosovo, albanians formed the cost of the liberation army. in response, milosevic increased his troops in the region. in 1998, the war in kosovo began. i remember rows of tanks entering the town and let's see. the house is just really shaking and especially knowing what was happening and

other parts of my family must really been so worried of where things were going to lead to that. to me was very difficult to think that something like that could happen to my family. you sort of see it happening and you see that it's possible, but do you think that's just something like that to happen to my family is just impossible. the initially like to cover was refugees coming into northern virginia. i see a huge number of refugees that they've been shop by, the serbs, women, and children. people who are deeply due to frighten me, much surprised. but what makes it worse to my mind was that you've been warning that this was to happen since 1991. because nobody did anything.

in late 998 serbian troops attacked the obedience in kosovo with relentless force. they also killed and civilians. domesticated were strongly reminiscent of the ethnic cleansing that had shaken both me just a few years earlier. but this time the international community was determined to intervene. aggressive nationalism of mister milosevic routed into 30. it's not in the ninety's of the european of european politics must be stopped and will be stalled. i would just like to remind president milosevic that nato stands ready to take whatever measures are necessary. thank you . and i remember watching the news and family being together and i remember

they were talking about the nature intervention. and we really thought i remember thinking that they that happens the next day we're going to be free. that's how i saw the in march 1999, natal launched as strikes on serbia to force milosevic to withdraw his troops from cost of the 24th of march. when the bombing started, things called there was a lot more mature impressions around town. my family decided that the men would leave the house, so they were around the town that they were hiding. and i remember that he was said

that because when the soldiers are coming in there, he can kill him, all of them. and so i guess they must have thought that just be the women and children we would be safe. 4 days later, the 28th of march. it was sunday. police army car stopped in front of the house. we could see them entering other neighbors houses. and we, you can see, you know, they were like, you know, smashing things and shouting in breaking and you know, we thought they would take us out just like they were doing with everyone else. when they entered, they took us behind in one of our neighbors, cotton, behind the house, one of the soldiers pushed my own p shelter in the back.

and then my cousin started crying by the time i looked at them, he already changed it's kind of thought issues and they took 2 rounds the 2nd time most because the one couldn't breathe and we're making a noise. so they shot again. and then after some time they it was quiet, so the left so we entered this wage and the house used to be here. and this tree used to be very small during that time. so these are the silver holes from the bullets. and

so on that day i lost my mother, so i lost my 2 brothers stand and i lost my cousin. norah fell to 21 people. only my 4 cousins and myself, 55 some 8000 kosovo albanian civilians died in the war. in 1999 milosevic was indicted by the international criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia. b. i. c . t. y in the hague may 22nd. i presented an indictment for confirmation against war, but then the loss of it and for others, charging them with crimes against humanity, specifically murder,

deportation and persecutions, and with violations of the laws and customs of war. but as long as no burden milosevic stayed in power of resting him was not possible. the opportunity came when he lost the presidential election in 2000 milosevic refused to concede defeat until angry protestors stormed the element. in june, 2001, milosevic was extracted to the hague and charged with war crimes committed in kosovo, croatia, and bosnia. one of the longest and most important trials in the history of international justice was about to begin the rest are slow, graham lucian, which, which really momentous galvanized the officer,

the prosecutor the stakes were higher and maybe the credibility of the i see to why as an institution was more a play we really had to show that we knew what we were about then. ah, today we international justice and action. and just try in, but to give the most powerful demonstration that no one will or beyond the reach of international just the crime of genocide, crimes against humanity affects all of us throughout the word

the accused as it's because his office is charged in respect of these events issue is or maybe did he know they were happening? of course he did. he cannot not have and we may find in the case of this accused little or no expression of regret for what was happening to the victims of these conflicts. massage, which was a very interesting human being, camacho, he treated the court with as near insolence as he could. the judges, for reasons that i simply do not understand, started off by allowing him to sit. so the rest of us had to stab to address the court to lead a witness in evidence to cross examine. and was there any reason why the accused

should not be accused wanting to be his own counsel should not do that. none, but he was allowed to sit in loud look of which i've seen the shore not represented by counsel today, not these proceedings will be long and complex. do you want some time to consider whether you wish to be represented? i goes to the distribution of 1st review now and in taxman suppose investments show i have no nice job point cost. so to illegal or not, you want to have the indictment read or not this your problem people excellent. i most of these people in power

like being in the spotlight like being in front of the camera and being able to present themselves and make a case to that own supporters. we requirements. this is the 1st opportunity i've been given after 7 months here to address the public. american eagle, the americans go all the way to the other side of the globe to fight terrorism, productive canister. in a case in point what we're going to start right to the other side of the world on christ. and that is considered logical and normal, you know, money. but the struggle against terrorism in the heart of one's own country, reason in one's own home is one's own nation, which is considered a crime sniper a lot. you know, it's really interesting, these processes because of course, even though he's a, he's the, the, the last,

the mind of everything that happened a but yet there's 2 aspects of respecting of human rights and the right to defend yourself and so on. and i felt that the whole process, unfortunately, again, gave him some power in terms of even, again, how he treated the victim there when he was questioning them. now what did you say that you took your family to a shelter underneath the staircase that had been prepared previously? but i mean, typically now when did you prepare the shelter? you mentioned in your state? look, then the squat menu then stray him. i didn't say that when you went to replace the shelter, we stayed in our home call. we made a shelter under the stairs and our home knocked. it's a part of us typically,

but i mean when did you prepare the shelter that you mentioned in your statement? just going farther than me. i will tell you what kind of shelter i had, what my sons lear took a carpet from the room and brought it out to him because he was a child and was frightened. so you thought it would be safer under the staircase then johnson just called just like his money. you knew the short term that i didn't understand you to be talking about. it was because you wrote the word shelter your pennies. you mrs. howard easy. if you're an intellectual more as was your husband, are you aware of the citizens of kosovo into the war and the tragic events that followed as an advocate he was because he couldn't resist the temptation to cross examine. every was the effect of all that was terrible. on him because it showed him to be actually quite

enough people me more than 5000 witnesses testified before the war, crimes tribunal, among them were politicians, soldiers, and foreign service. the vast majority with those who survived violence during the war victims of rape, torture and genocide. ah ah, do you know the only thing to do when i go to the memorial now? as soon as my feet feel like someone else's feet, my legs no longer carry me. burying your own children,

something that destroys you. your soul dies that duty filmy. everything dies nationalist vision. so she did not. they contacted me from the hague tribunal, the same, the fear that they asked if i would agree to testify. and i said, yes, i didn't hesitate. but if i had nothing else to lose in my life, so i wanted at least to be helpful to others. in that role, i solemnly declare that i will state the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth smell. this is gonna be like a symbol. so that's if i was surprised when i got in the courtroom and i saw that everything had been photographed for every stone from public chat is threatening, i suppose. yeah, i asked the prosecutor the why are you inviting us to the hague tribunal? if you already know everything takes place,

they could all be fake photographs for them. so without witnesses, there was no vetted to the name of breast dose coming out to the fields with it like a tree. it's really important to have that acknowledgment of what you've suffered. it's quite an empowering experience. you have perpetrates right there, and they have to sit there and after listen, you know, they become get up and shoot you because you're you know, speaking about what they've done we also decided to testify in belgrade. it was not very long after the war ended. i just

remember really being anxious all the time. people who were in the garden who are still walking free. you know, you have an idea of when you have that experience course or something like that goes, i can forgive the ones who did it and the ones who gave orders to do it and you know, the ones who started this whole thing. but i can't say about every single person that lives in this country. but for me was really striking, is the reaction of families for traits. family were all there, some right behind him and you know, let alone that he didn't show any remorse. i was stunned to see the reaction of the family they, i mean they were there for 2 hours listening of every details you can give

of what had happened on that day. and yet they felt that it was unfair that he was being tried for it. it was really hard for me to even sort of compress the whole that whole reaction the way i started beating detainees, it said a 3rd or 4th person i had fell on the floor later, died in the infirmary of the cast that you're not even if i knew it somewhere deep down. yes i did. but i didn't want to believe in that. i do as i was soldiers doing things for my country,

for my people, i was not wrong. my shock was not wrong. we did the right thing. so this is what you are trying to yourself me many of the accused did not recognize the hague tribunal all their guilt, even though it could have reduced their sentences just 20 of the 161 accused pled guilty. ah, both me and the politician piano plus ships, pled guilty to one of the charges against her, and return the others were dropped really enough to sell the un war crimes tribunal on wednesday. she is accused of genocide, more crimes and crimes against humanity. georgia interest to go to the trials lasted for years though. sure. they told me i could get

a life sentence. yes, someone should. once i entered the court room with my blood pressure at 220 because something more often my lawyer said deanna, there's only one solution of or she will not leave guilty. prison, i could do a national car was for a to some below. now our leadership of which i was apart and called lead an effort which victimized countless innocent people navy menu. at that time, i easily convinced myself it was a matter of survival. and self defense is some of the many and i shall go to spread. the most important thing for me is a clear conscience or do you believe me little i sleep very well to try. chamber has to pass centers on 72. we are

a former president for participation in a crime of the utmost gravity. on the other hand, the very significant mitigating circumstances in particular, the guilty plea of the accused that they accused of having given due way to the fact of trial shameless sentences. you took care of 11 years imprisonment. all this and yet now, major. not 9. still to see the hague tribunal. not an international institution attacked. the entire serv. nation crushed yeah. they've already this is sort of beyond i'm not saying the serbs were,

angels could read those, but you just have to look at the distribution on my floor of the prison. this is sort of device set of our top 10 serves as you crow at. and one muslim mission i found very amusing or you said, i'm just here to make up the muslim quota. not a trace of justice. need to room. well, the navy, to be any, it's true that most of the accused war service context that's due to the context of the conflict to do it after the dissolution of yugoslavia. but the federal army was dissolved automotive headquarters were in belgrade and serbian hands. so this

federal army became a serbian army, oscar on your model. so of course they had plenty of weapons ship to those, and the bosnian army was formed on the go and barely had any weapon to govern is the same, was true for the croats. he's got the court about the i spoke with somebody and that's why the serbs committed more crimes. tolben of course that doesn't mean serbs are criminal people. that's just how the situation was at the time when i called bluff to be the 4 years after it started the trial of slow burden. milosevic was still unfinished. hearings were often delayed as milosevic as health deteriorated. on the 11th of march,

2006, milosevic was found dead in his prison so of a heart attack. the chamber has been advised of the death of the accused flaw, but on the last of which we express or regret at his passing. we also regret that he's on timely debt has deprived not only him, but indeed all interested parties of a judgement upon the allegations in the indictment. i was very sure that he would be convicted. what happened in the end?

it's for me, very disappointing. but also what really bothers me is this rhetoric of people within serbia say no, he didn't commit any credit because he was never convicted for it. well, milosevic was moaned in belgrade, b i c t wise, most wanted fugitive for hiding in serbia. that of on courage and that commodity were charged with all crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide in the bosnian war. but many still regarded them as heroes. ah, so as early january in 2008 years of age died 2 years before, it was obvious that the main frustration you'd say was calories in light each are still out there. you know, people didn't manage even today. you will find people in serbia and we pick

a shell gas to supporting that. so getting cooperation and getting a risk is very, very difficult. and what you need as international prosecutor is really political support from those countries who have influenced an impact on those congress who are not arresting the fugitives. and with all countries in the form, it was love, yahoo have as a political objective to join sooner or later europe union, whether europe and union had a lot of leverage saying that if you want to go there, one of the many conditions you have to fulfill is full cooperation in arresting the remaining other one cottage is now in the custody of international criminal tribunal for the from english. after 13 years at large,

you arrived in the netherlands early this morning and has been transferred to the united nation detention center in the hike. something like 5 o'clock one morning. i got a phone call, rather than heritage has been captured. would you like to prosecute him for the sieges ferry evil? and i said yes. heritage remained fugitive from justice and he did that through a very clever disguise as a faith healer. and it was a disguise that worked, the man that was arrested in 2000 and they looked nothing like relevant heritage. but what was very interesting was when karen, it made his 1st appearance in court after she was a rest. everything was shaved off, the hair was short,

and the man that he once was was back. miss heritage. i see that you alone. at least i did not see. come. so assisting or representing you at this moment. is it your choice not to be represented by counsel? at this initial appearance, i have an invisible advisor. i have decided to represent myself, but i in the car, i found rather than heritage, extraordinarily well prepared. he was a master of detail who is really good. this is own counsel. good morning to everyone, see me and you get a large good morning. first of all,

really i would like to express my sympathy for your loss and the suffering we went through the roughly measured team. however, your statement is rather broad. those cheryl, so i do have to put some questions to back more. i'm not be done totally to the police as usual out of everyone. i testified against. he was the worst to feel psychopath. his every word was a lie. you know, osmond mulligan, the yes. be more you, as my brother in law, you know, he was a prominent military command. their school was di, my brother in law was killed at the very beginning of the war early on. and i don't know when he could have become such a great commander as i don't think he had enough time, a voice go just you seem to an email, but i mean,

as i thought i saw your excellency, this family was a prominent family, a military family that made a major contribution to the fighting from barbara. hi, another room to my family. okay. listed on names and called the military family. you know, the, some of the place i told him not to worry too much about this family aside. so because they were lying buried at the memorial, like an account of sardine and so he could sleep peacefully in the hague. ah, in 2011 the tribunals last fugitives were finally pretended. after 15 years on the run, rosco, march was arrested in serbia and handed over to the hague luggage. you kindly rise and make the solemn declaration please.

yeah, i saw i do not recognize this hague caught near please. that is a nightmare creation. it is a satanic court, a court of justice sold, and he's trying us because we are so busy because we protect people from the bus. i'm cutting you off. please be seated again at general, sir, did you ever inform me either orally or in writing that the prisoners from nita would be were being or had been executed? let's press mister president on rather than young and i cannot and do not wish to testify. the reason of my helen he could have taken 7000 muslim men prisoner,

that he could have helped cloud his previous 4 years of murder and rape. but yet he chose to be the, the monster that he is and kill those people. mr. cause it, could you please stand the chamber here by sentences you rather than courage to a single sentence of 440 years of in prison is broken up. i was glad he was convicted with me. i also felt pride because i contributed to that verdict with my testimony, see that the risk system leverage leverage, sit mr. all lies mr. manage. if you continued like this, we missed. i'm not, it will be removed from the courtroom. curtains down. mr. blanche will be removed

from the courtroom. the chamber fines, rock, comb, language guilty of the following codes, genocide, prosecution, extermination deportation. unlawful attacks on civilians, violation of the laws or customs of war. the chamber sentences mister upcoming adage, to life imprisonment. re i c t wise last trial finished in 2017. from 996. ellen the tribunal indicted 100. 61. people for crimes committed during the yugoslavs was more than 90. were found guilty. no one indicted by the tribunal is still on the

run. ah, in 2000 t b i. c t y was joined by the international criminal court in the hague. the i, c. c is a permanent court withdrew restriction of genocide for crimes and crimes against humanity. but many of the world's most powerful nations have not signed on the future of international justice is far from set. and it was the united states that played a major leadership role in establishing the tribe for their former yugoslavia. however, there was very little american involvement in that war. and so they're very little chance at an american could ever be considered a war criminal. and that was the way things were in 1993. currently the u. s. is one of the biggest obstacles right now. they felt that the, i see,

she may prosecute american soldiers. i don't think this much chance of getting either a people's republic of china or the united states of america or federal russia to agree that it's a good idea to say yes. ok, we'll put on sales and else on trial. now my fear is, justice has lost its loss. sparkle. the arc of its importance may be on the town because it, unless we do something about it, the i again save 100 percent guarantee that are not saved my life. they make me

a better person. not by sentencing me to prison to 15 years that didn't change anything in my life. i think the help that i receive from them did out me. i work on my shows. i was 10 years with their ologist. i came out of the prison. they paid for my therapist. if i stayed the bush now, i would never change. ah. you know when i go and i never heard anybody or 3 sides been there. we say, oh, you are, you know, good guy eat them up. well, you know, i don't care what you, nobody went to realize that war ended up a long time ago and that terrible things happened using that history. a lot of times happened in this area. but no one

voice, so punished or restless. now it was the 1st time happened and no one can deny that. we have denied everywhere around must be having established facts ah, 243 at the end of the scheme for school. but i had so many friends and connie, they used to come to our house. we were often together, 17 years now. i will freely through which on my errands as i sit and talk. and when i see them passing that you, i hold my head high. those as the though they look the other way, maybe they're ashamed or hate me for people. i don't know if they have any contact with those key says colleagues and friends said they don't want to be friends anymore.

even when the last for date has been given, it's never it's not enough to bring back your loved ones. but your hope is always that society and those individuals understand the wrong doings. that what you go for someone else doesn't because unfortunately these men haven't shown any remorse, any way of feeling bad about what they've done. but it's really important that we did everything that we could so that our families not just lost people in the stead who they were and that their lives snap. i use

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