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i, when stonewall happened, it was categorically different from anything that happened. people 50 years later, people think of some wall as not just the beginning of a nelson wave of gay politics. what is the beginning of gay politics at all? and often people think of it as the beginning of gay, like because we know it, i was there, it's sharon square and totally there was all this activity. and before you knew it, people were throwing lighter fluid in front of the wall. it was what i would imagine the sense of these, the, the french revolution to be like, ah,

why did that more explode that night? a lot of it had to do with who was going there, people of color drag queens trans people. they were the ones who weren't going to take it anymore. there was a patient that nothing would ever be the same again. please like green. ah, me, i was a little girl. anyway. she was raised by

a mother. and because they loved the very much the price and i was different from the time i was a small child and i didn't have words for it. i felt those different. i was a tomboy mine. my mother was rather upset by my lack of conformity to being a little girl. i don't know too funny. i grew up in the 1950 is and not only the midwest which was backward enough but in grand rapids michigan which was twice as backward as the rest of the midwest. the word gay was never use. nobody knew what that meant except happy through high

school, i thought i was the only gay person in the world where the only person like me in the world, even though i was a gay person, i didn't know what that meant. my nobody was out. it was very, very dangerous to come out. you couldn't tell your parents. in fact, i kept hearing stories about people who sent their kids to insane asylums. basically. a lot of time to fil, is threatening to pervert an entire generation of our american children. do you want your son enticed into the world of homosexuals or your daughter? learn into lesbianism? do you want them to lose all chance of a normal, happy married life? ah

cruise? i grew up in savannah, georgia. i was definitely part of that post for baby boom. generation i was born in 947. i grew up in a completely segregated world. as a southern ju, i belong, i always tell people i belong to for very different and sort of almost self exclusionary groups of people. i grew up southern jewish, gay, and poor the worst year my life was when i was 15, i was rebelling against my mother. and i knew at that point that i was queer, and other kids in my high school, some of them has started a what i call a whispering campaign against me. like i couldn't go through the halls about kids saying things either to me or to themselves about me. and in towards the

middle of the summer of that 15, i tried to kill myself. that's pop my stomach and they decided to keep me in the hospital for several days just for observation. and when i got out, i went through this kind of a personal moment. and the epiphany moment was i realize that one. i was never going to allow anyone to drive me to suicide. again, not my mother are not the kids at school. no one would drive me to suicide again. and number 2, i would be the person that i had to be no matter what i was until i got to michigan that i finally met a few other people. and we had to be very careful because they had vice squad, people everywhere trying to identify us and arrest us for being gay.

that's the kind of fear we live with all the time trying to live a normal existence was very difficult. one day i decided to take a walk and try to meet somebody. and from under the trees, all of a sudden a cop came out, grabbed me and asked me what i was doing was i going to queer parties, but i know other queer people. and i better give him all the names of the people i knew. and i said, no, i'm not going to tell the names of anybody. and he said, trust me, you will regret this. the next morning i was hauled into the dean's office and asked not to re register if we don't need your kind of people at the university of michigan. oh, god, deliver us, american from evil. we must make our land the land of the free

a safe home. the when i was in college, it was more like a going in story. coming out story. the very 1st week i heard a story about 2 women who were in the dorm room and they were, they were making out and the guy columbia, across the street with binoculars looked in the dorm room and saw them. he reported them and they were expelled. and i was really shocked, i had no idea that this was something that was so terrible, and i just never spoke of it. i didn't go out with a lake, so hadn't wor hair. i just keep growing yet. i didn't cut it for 4 years, but some of the senior, it was really quite long. i just tried to look more and more feminine. so i could

pass. so i was quite frightened by this, this at the the so that was the time when i decided i heard from a number of people that new york was more open. that things could happen there. and i decided to move to new york, i decided i am going to be this thing. i'll be an outlaw, mentally ill, whatever you want to call me. but this is who i am. so unlike a lot of people, i tried to be out as much as i could wherever i was. i rocked in new york in august of 1956, exactly one month before my 19th birthday. and i arrived here with no money, no family, no education. i mean, i just,

i had really zip out. i immediately discovered what gay life was like in new york. and at that point i described, it was like book, like joining a private club. greenwich village was very gay. on one hand, it was also very tense on the other hand, because if you wanted to got to hurt us, the village is really a great place to do it. i had a friend who was beaten up very badly by some kids from out of town. i took him to the precinct and they laughed at him. this is what you get. and that was the atmosphere leading up to stonewall me. use. i started new,

i believe in 1900. 67. i became involved early on with this small small group called the student homo file. lived in my student home, a file lead lesbian sort of prenatally in. ah, they've been sustained, a political organizing, starting with a group called a magazine society found in california in the early fifties. also the daughter of a lead us, the lesbian organization. those for the 2 main groups. there were other groups around the country. they provided a lot of social services to gay people who had been devastated by anti gay policing . and they did develop a, the infrastructure of a gay political movement. in the years before the gay liberation movement was born

and the wake of someone, i was not involved in the home phone game movement. because i had gone to some meetings of the daughters of belie this, which was a homophobe organization for women. and i found them to be too conservative for my taste. i discovered that lesbians were in the village, so i went to the village. and in the beginning, i often would follow women, i thought were likely prospects. i called them, i bet through lesbian. so i would walk around discreetly, i thought after them in the hopes that they would go into a lesbian bar. and i could find a lesbian bar because i was too shy to walk up to you couldn't walk up to someone say hi, are you? it was hit think of elizabeth, but eventually somehow i found out about

a couple of bars. it was the stone pony that was cooking on west 14th street. and all these bars were on by organized crime, by the, by a group called the genovese crime, family. and this is because it was illegal to serve drinks more or less to homosexuals because we were criminals. every bar that served gay people had to pay off the local patrolman to make sure that he didn't report case. there was superiors and most far as read their own directly by the mom or had to pay off the mob as well. because only the mob was strong enough to provide protection higher up. and the other danger, of course, was the police came in to rate. you had to have 3 pieces of women's clothing. i would check myself in the mirror before going to make sure that i was wearing women's clothing. you had to count because if the police came in,

they would put you aside. if they thought you didn't have women's clothing on, they would have a female officer. take you into the restroom and strip you. and if you did any touching of another man, you could be sense person for a long time. the literally tens of thousands of men had been arrested in new york for homosexual solicitation between the 19271900 sixty's. ah, there were several bars at that time and people might make around one of the other people like to end up at stonewall. first of all, the drinks weren't watered down as much as some other places. and the people were

generally a young, very vicious crowd. there was kind of like a little vestibule that you'd walk through where you'd be scrutinized by a bouncer. and then beyond the bar, there was a dance area and had a, a ra concrete floor that often had water on the floor. like when it rain water would pour into the bar, it was really pretty dank. it was an awful place. i mean, i had no sentimentality towards the place. the good thing about it was that you could dance there. why did that war explode that night? a lot of it had to do with who was going there. the street, kids, people of color, gender queers, were accustomed to being harassed by the police, and accustomed to fighting back on the streets. these people were not going to take it. they had little to lose. a lot of them were not able to hide because of who

they were. and they fought back very briefly. on the i was the executive editor of the village voice, which is a weekly newspaper. similar in some ways to liberal seal covering the left and in politics and culture in new york city. and our office was right above the stone wall bar. so we all ran to the windows as soon as we, we heard this fuss and we knew that it was some kind of demonstration. so i wanted to go up to my knowledge with every detail about what's replaced and i have a stonewall is contested. we don't really know what's pretty clear is that the

police showed up sometime after 1 o'clock, the standard rate. and it was a, they checked people's ideas. some people didn't have ideas. they did really brutal sex checks on some of the trans people there to see what sex they were really were and people were pushed out of the bar and instead of dispersing they gathered. i was coming home like just before 1 o'clock in the morning and suddenly there was a sort of a, something happening of the stonewall which i went to every now and then you could dance there. they would turn on the lights. you do the cops were coming, so you had to stop dancing and that sort of thing, but they, they allowed it. and i was there, it's shared in square and solely there was all this activity and, and shelving whatever. and there was one particular lesbian,

they took this lesbian and put her in a cop car, and she crawls out the other side. they, they, they, they got her back and she crawled back out. and at that point, a lot of the drag queens started joining in and before you knew it, people were throwing the lighter fluid on the front of the stone wall. one of the 1st things they did was start throwing coins at the cops and then with the stone wall itself. and that symbolized the payoff that these bars normally had the made of makes the cops and they were challenging them. and the police felt menaced by the 1st time they were afraid of us. instead of our being afraid of them, there were hundreds of people gathering in the square because of all the excitement . so i ran up and down the street with a number of my friends and we were calling to people to come out of their houses. come out, this is happening. this is a gay event. you've got to be here. the cops inside were panic called for

reinforcements, which arrived and once said, they're just on all out. st battle took shape. the news with me. i went to work and by that time the cuffs had put up what they called riot lights. there was a huge intensity of lighting and you could see the broken glass, the cars with the windows smashed. and there were hundreds of people on the street

. i mean, just hundreds of people on the street. so it had this very theatrical element to it was what i would have imagined the sense of these, the, the french revolution to be like, there was smoke in the air. the, there, there were there were, there were drag queens with fishnet stockings that were that were that were torn and blood running down their legs. there were people trying to forum chance, we didn't really have the words, but there was a sensation that nothing would ever be the same. again, we had finally stood up to the repression that we had suffered for years and years . this is not on the usual grid that you see in new york city. this was in the old village before the grid have been introduced. so all these winding st small blocks and the street kids there and the patience of the stone

wall knew them much better than the tactical police have been brought in. so when they would come after us, we would run around and go behind them, come up behind them and do the same thing, make fun of them to kick steps, and they turn around and we go around the other way. so that was fun. the stonewall till they gave permission to a lot of people to discover themselves. anger and frustration and pain had just been locked up so much inside us by society and it exploded with stonewall. i know i felt like i could let go for the 1st the i returned pretty much every day, almost a week, and people in the square, lots and lots of people kept coming, joined

a group of people and we all join hands. and we sang songs silly songs, picked up our feet and pushed the costs back. everyone's favorite story is of the, the 50 clean to line up. put their hands on each other shoulders. we start kicking their heels charging towards the police singing. we are the village girls. we were a harem girls. like what kind of riot has that happened? the the the press really didn't know what to do with stone wall. several of papers did print stories about it, but they were pretty dismissive and had headlines like queen bees are a stinging mad. and the new york times referred to the stone wall as

a homosexual haunt. a home being a place where disreputable people would, would go. so there are times which is very pro gay today was a big problem in those days because of their refusal to give people the dignity that they merited. ah, i use what made stonewall this thing and unique was what happened? not there, but what happened after that this actually was a moment that became a movement. what do we do next? and the gay liberation front sprung up. you know, it seems like almost nanoseconds after stonewall borrowing from black liberation

from women's liberation, all the other liberation movements. now there was a gay group that called themselves gay liberation front. and in addition to the word liberation, the word front signifies the left were very leftist, most of us were socialist. a few of us were called doctrinaire communist, or even maoist. there was a certain degree of libertarianism in it. maybe you can be a libertarian socialist. it was about liberation. it was about emancipation. it was about freedom about intersectionality. stonewall was in fact a candle in the night g l f became a menorah. raise your hand giving you something you want to bring up. one of the things that interestingly attracted me to the gala gratian front was how dysfunctional it was in some ways i liked it because my family was like so it

said, oh, these are my people. here's my thing. i was used to this and we sat around them. we talked about what we wanted. one woman, i remember said she wanted one day to get married. and everyone laughed because it was the most ridiculous thing we ever heard in our lives because we couldn't, you couldn't kiss. you couldn't hold hands. you couldn't go anywhere with a partner and be open and we thought this, but this woman someplace safe, you know, and this was the thing that g, l, f was so good about was the realization that a huge amount of politics takes place within the imagination. you have to be able to imagine liberation before you can have it. the good

news we split up into working cell very similar to the communist party, the united states, to split up into cells. there was the red butterfly, which was a marxist cell. there was come out which put out the newspaper. so they had a newspaper and i saw the newspaper and i was just so impressed with that jesus, this is a gay newspaper that it says come out of liberation form of the gay community. i mean liberation. gay community i was, i did really resonated with me. so i, i joined the come out, sell almost immediately. i was in the come out sell. i was part of the aquarius cell,

which was responsible for social activities. because part of the politics of g, l, f was also a politics in reaction to who owned our spaces, the mafia, the city, the police. so we saw having social spaces on a par with having political spaces. the dances were wonderful. there in this very, very large room with a couple of smaller rooms off to the side. and once you walked in, you are not in the bar atmosphere, not in the defense of you know, cold bar atmosphere and people talk to you and came up to you. and i was just, ah, the

real we made decisions as a group strictly through consensus. we did not do regular voting, that we did not have a majority of that one and a minority that last and this was something we're very proud of, that we were as a group part of an alienated minority. we did not want to have alienated minorities within g l, f. and so if we had an issue every moment to get to speak to the issue, the meetings kind of gave new depth of meaning to the term anarchy. it was a leaderless group, but we always had a man and a woman sort of standing in the front. i'm not sure what they were doing. maybe they're waiting to dance. i don't know, but the conversations were wide ranging. how are we going to support the black

panthers? how are we going to have discussions with the puerto rican liberation group? how are we going to interface with the women's movement in the sixty's? there was so much activism, so much rebellion, so many sources of inspiration for gay people. he felt themselves to be oppressed. and the model came from the general culture, the counter culture, the black rebellion and feminism, those 3 forces, the, the hippies, the black panthers and women's movement in the 1960 s created a model in which these people found a home. the

a lot of gay people, as we started forming our political organizations, realize we have to make an effect on the straight community. a lot of people said, well then we can't have drag queens because that'll be a negative image. and i had to repeat over and over again as i did in print, many times we need to respect our fellows. these people thought these people, one our freedom for us. we wouldn't be out in the street if they hadn't done what they did. i, i can, i've been down and liberated

and were, you know, we had the door ex revolution. they really liked the idea that they were drag queens and the drag itself was an offense to the mainstream. drag was an offense to no regular america. so they were just a brief moment and these 1st months after some, all the gay liberation front or all these groups are working together, babbling and out, but still doing important creative political work. but the tensions were very high for them because the level little the station was so high. everyone who was politicizing everyday life in such an intense way that it was very hard for men and women to work together. weiss and people of color to work together as

a result of that by december 969, the gay activists alliance had drawn away from us. and they had story the separate organization. they were tardies of the result and chaos. they came from all of these different people and they wanted to be one node organization. they wanted to fight only for game ration. the news. i was one of the earliest foreign mothers of the radical lesbian group. the group that also emerged out of g l. s. but it's sort of a break away in some ways analogous to the gay activists alliance. but i think also with the sense of intersectionality that we carried from

the we remember stonewall not because of the bar bar rates before stone. we'll do a bar is after stone wall. we remember stone will because of the commemoration, because we said we will march on the other 3 and we will not let people forget that's. and that's why people remember the stonewall. it doesn't hurt that the name was something like stonewall. it would be terrible. we marched every year for something called the pink pussy cat in that wouldn't be so much fun. the 1st march, i think, was really organized to symbolize the birth of this new wave of gay organizing after stonewall. it was to say something new has happened and storm

war began. that's the it was this wonderful kind of festival we put on about game of ration the the march committee had prepared these wonderful like little flyers saying this is a march to commemorate one year after stonewall. we are serious group. please do not waste your energy. heckling us do no good. i did join the 1st march with this plan. and in 1970, i marched up the avenue to send for par and at every precinct along the way, the police came out on their horses and made a barrier across the street. so we just linked arms and pushed forward and just

kept going. and then they would part again at the next precinct that began at the next precinct was very interesting. i was excited full of anticipation and thinking back now though i never would have admitted to myself at that moment. i was terrified. we had no idea what would happen, but we hit the streets and all whose fears absolutely disappeared. it was in fact, one of the most life affirming moments i ever had the really didn't matter whether people were there to support us or not. significant thing was we were there. and as we watched from the village toward central park,

it grew and grew i required incredible courage for people at the 1st marks actually proclaimed they were gay and proud. and yeah, you had 6 or 7000 people do it that 1st year in new york in a few 1000 more in 2 or 3 other cities. it was just i would say, if you guys were breathtaking, it was kind of breathtaking. there i was with, you know, all my brothers and sisters and we're out in the open and i was with kind of my own family the

there was this sense of something happening, but it never happened before. you think that you're happy now that you realize exactly where your feelings lot. indeed, i'm just sorry that it took so long. i'm sorry that i spent so many years in the closet. what people can do august carrying on and holding hands and kids in the park. why can't we do it? all right. they know that and i am not talking about kissing and holding his in the park. i mean, like fighting about liberalism, i'm talking about some, some guy dropping his hand. all right. i mean, they're asking people in the park with him in, all right, but that doesn't mean we have to do it again. we should have the right to do it. if they can do it, we should be able to do if we want we got up to the yards in the park and everybody was celebrating, everybody's having a good time. it really was

a party up in central park after that march. and this felt very much like we have liberated a space in the heart of the city. the hippies may have done at 1st, but we did it. there really was and it was a wonderful feeling was liberatory feeling. and i think the big turning point of stonewall was looking out at that crown and saying, wow, we have power. we don't have to be afraid anymore. and turned out we did have to be afraid for more cyclic way going forward. yeah, i read after stonewall we we experienced a short window of sexual liberation like we we had never experience before. and then suddenly we were dying

me. one of the cycles that i saw was a crisis person that came along. we were blamed for it were scapegoat it for it. i think in many cases it was an excuse to bring back the homophobia. oh, you see, this is who these people really are. it's dangerous to be gay. it's also had a profound impact on the gay movement because it led to a new wave of militancy where it truly was a matter of life and death. and a radical movement especially act up included many people, but their core members were people who knew they were going to die. if they didn't get drugs into their bodies, if they didn't change the medical system, if they didn't change the way the government and the community treated people. yeah. all of that got remedy pretty

much in the ninety's. and at the turn of the century, i think people started accepting us morgan. as i say, i was really jazz up during the obama administration because we were even able to marry, were able to serve and they on forces. everything seem to be turning up roses. we went from 10000 people in june of 9726000000 people in new york alone, 50 years later. i mean what razor more for, of our success in organizing the more it's, was it and there's celebrations in many countries around the world. this incredible change that i would not have believed would happen in my lifetime.

the the but is 70 countries around the world. homosexuality is illegal, still gay men and lesbians have being stone to them. we cannot think that the way of life in some western countries in europe and the united states, canada, that this is the way that it is in the world. the, i think we need to be more vigilant than ever. all the progress we've made is very fragile. it can be taken away, it can be taken away in a heartbeat. i also think that it's different now because we will

fight back the news. you have to fight for basic rights. once you've got that, you can't just pull it back as much as they might want to roll time back. they're not going to be able to. we're going to put a huge news news

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