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oh, i see the me ah, this is the w news, and these are top stories. us president joe biden has promised federal help, offered condolences. the families of those killed were missing the after. last week's florida, high rise, collapse, search and rescue efforts were halted on thursday over fears that the rest of the building could fall. the death toll has risen to 18 with as many as 145 still unaccounted for. the job us attorney general merrick garland has halted all
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federal executions while the justice department continues its review of the death penalty. it comes after the historic use of executions at the federal level by the trump administration. 13 people were put to death in trumps last 6 months in office . the british prince as william and harry have unveiled a statue to their late mother diana, on what would have been her 60th birthday. the princess was killed in a paris car. crash 1997. the ceremony in london briefly reunited the 2 brothers will have been at odds over allegations of racism within the royal family. this is dw news from berlin. there is more on our website at d. w dot com the aah! an ancient chinese proverb says, if i say that a deer is a horse,
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and if you agree you deserve to be deceived. for the past 50 years, the us in europe invested in the growing chinese middle class, expecting a dividend of democracy. it never happened. instead, china is now the world's 2nd largest economy and it's acting more and more like a super power today and celebrated the 100th birthday of its communist party. and that democratic horse the west wanted to see it remains what it has always been a dear a communist dear. i'm bred golf and berlin. this is the day the chinese are people who are poor just this and we're not intimidated by august 24th . we have never bullied
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time oppressed or enslaved the people of any of the country. the chinese people will never allow any phone force to bully. the press instigators were long legged for great, glorious and to really chinese people. me also coming up search and rescue crews at that collapse condo high rise near miami, had to stop their work today, fearing the remaining parts could give way. it came as us president biden arrived, promising more aid to know for room you all because through as well. as can be a lot of pain and suffering and even need for
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a psychological health in a days and months to fall to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with china's warning to the world that we will not be bullied chinese president, she's paying mark to the chinese communist party is $100.00 birthday today with 2 messages, one for the chinese people. the other for the rest of the world, especially the u. s. in europe to his compatriots, president, she spoke in superlatives. the chinese communist party is the largest political party in the world. it started with 12 members in 1921 expanded by 20 percent every year to its present 92000000 members who control 1400000000 people. she's being delivered his address from tiana min square. the irony last on
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a generation that has been denied the truth about its own history. president, she said nothing about the 1989 to get them and square massacre of students who dared to demand democratic reform. and for the world president, she issued a warning that his country will not be bullied. and that any foreign powers attempting to do so we'll run into a wall of steel. we have this report tonight. the it was a spectacle designed to impress, showing off the parties dominance. gentlemen square was packed with 70000 hand pick spectators. putting on a show of patry arctic fervor, the cannons wrought $100.00 times. once the chinese communist parties, existence did on the streets of beijing. loyalists gathered to enjoy what they
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could see of the celebrations. it's been 100 years since the party was founded. it is under 30. china has developed and people's lives have got better. of course i'm happy. that was, it was echoing the message of president, she didn't ping, perhaps the party's most powerful vida, since it's time to manage. i don't standing above my portraits and dressed in a suit reminiscent of the chem and she praised the ccp for lifting the chinese people just poverty. he hailed what he called the countries irreversible right from humiliation to global dominance. and he delivered a message of defiance to foreign powers, stronger than me. people will never allow any foreign force to bully, subjugated. save me one who does try that will have the heads massive in front of the great wall of steel foods,
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with the flesh and blood of over 1400000000 chinese people hung up poll portia, they all he's in his language was perhaps chosen with a domestic audience in mind, but she backed up his warning with a pledge to beast, china's military mites and a promise to bring south governing, tie one under china's control. a vision of an assertive china impervious to western criticism, and uncompromising on it strategic goals. i'm joined now by sarah cook. she's the research director for china, taiwan in hong kong. it freedom house, that's a washington based in geo. it's going to have you on the program. ms. cook this massive spectacle on t animal square. knowing what happens there in 1989. what does this tell us about the power of the communist party to totally control the narrative?
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i think it says a lot about aspirations of the part of the control, the narrative. and melissa control chinese people because i think a lot of the political feeder is also to demonstrate that, you know, whether you would want to salute the party or not the party can make you do that. and i think one of the things we see on social media, we're obviously on tenements. where is the level of censorship and control and full mentation, an amplification of nationalistic narrative, like what the party with like, but very fierce depression. of anybody trying to remember? well, the alternative and very bloody history of the chinese communist party in china. do you think people standing on that square to day people born after 989? do you think many of them are even aware of the massacre that happened there? i think a lot of them are not. i mean, i think the thing to keep in mind in terms of the people on the square is that they
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were hands. and i magine, a lot of them are members of the communist youth league or other what have been, you know, particularly protected from, you know, uncensored information. but i think generally you do see situations where a lot of young people in china are not aware. and even chinese students who come here, i know students and people arrived and learned about and to be honest, when they learned about it, it really changed how they think about china and the time miss hardy. and that's exactly what the tcp doesn't want. people doing, which is why it, it hides that, that, that one piece of knowledge, you've really all of the history of the party in china. so fiercely and guarded the years. we heard president, she's paying today, deliver a very strong warning to the rest of the world. don't bully us or you'll bash your head and get it bloody. i mean, should the world fear this? china that is acting more and more like a super power?
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well, i mean, i think the question of how china is asking if this is the, you know, the way to act as a superpower is a question. right? because i think a lot of people would have hope for me are responsible stakeholder. and i think that actually fall into a line, you know, ensured the agreement made for example about hong kong are actually followed. but i think here what is signaling is the level of aggressiveness. and i think the issue in china is that, you know, the look beneath all of the palm is actually one. 2 of the security and what the login really struck me as the parent of a young child was like, listen to the party, appreciate the party, follow the party. you know, that's not something you have to tell people if they're actually doing those things . and i think that's just one example along others where you see that, you know, even though she's consolidate power so much, there are people, even in the party that are not really satisfied with the direction taken china because of domestic progression because of aggressiveness, internationally. and so there isn't insecurity, but to be honest,
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we've seen this with other authoritarian regime. that insecurity can translate into really dangerous military aggression. and so i think when we see this kind of militaristic language according to the taiwan, which i think is also a key audience for, you know, in terms of that particular statement and warning. also, you know, it's not only coming through a position of strength. it's also, i think, coming from position of insecurity and needing to nationalism to short, legitimate chinese are you with? yeah, and they will be interesting to see if taiwan indeed becomes the newest and long lasting flash point between china and the us. we will see sarah cook from freedom house cook. we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. my pleasure. or soon to come on the day a u. k. royal birthday, forever bound to the tragedy of a young death and questions of what could have been today the late princess diana would have turned 60. there's never been any one like her before. and there's never
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been anyone like her since. and i think people are fascinated with the enigma of this woman. who was she? what made her take? what made her do the things she did? and also when someone leads unhappy life on the public stage, i think they that is an extraordinary thing as wo, the search and rescue crews, the top, the rubble of that collapsed condo building, your miami were forced to pause their work. today. engineers say that the ruins could collapse even more. today you as president, joe biden was in florida, and he met with those crews who have risked their own lives, trying to find survivors. he then held a closed door meeting with the families of the victims and those still missing. here's what the president had to say. i just got back from the base. they wonder whether we can do this and you do it. i mean,
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just simple. everybody doing whatever needs to be done, tell me what you need. and that goes for both the senators and anyone florida to pick up the forms real unlike joking. reassuring words there from the u. s. president. let's go to our correspondent now oliver's. how are you standing by for is in sort of side, florida getting to you oliver, president biden. he really had a delicate balancing act today. me that's right, brand, we can put it that way. the hours long meeting with the families that he just finished behind closed doors and where he on the one hand had to express his sympathies, but then also find some rather encouraging words. perhaps because many of those family members still have hope that some of the relative, some of their loved ones are buried alive under the rubble of course. and know that
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wish and hope was reinforced. today, when we heard reports of the fire department rescue workers said they heard the voice of a woman under the robber. they could not find her initial leave that was confirmed by the miami dade fire rescue chief. so everyone who's missing a female relative of course, now putting his or her hopes up desperately hoping for a miracle here in surfside. you know, we know that people don't want to give up hope, but it is looking increasingly unlikely that anyone will be found alive isn't well, the last survivor brand was found in the early hours after the building came down on thursday. so a week ago and of course, rescue workers have been reiterating that it is becoming more and more unlikely with each passing day. and adding to that the rescue operation had to be paused earlier today. there's fear of a further collapse of the still remaining structure of another child or they are that has been moving by several centimeters today. so there's
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a lot of pressure on the rescue workers on the families on the residence as well. they told us, when we were filming, therefore, our report how frustrated they are. especially in all the reports, emerged about the existing damages off the champlain tower. and that of course raises many questions, and here's our report from sort of size. it's hard to think about anything else for diana, a winner. every time she takes the dog out, she passes by the collapse chimplan tower. us and survived. but hopes of finding more people alive are fading. she believes the tragedy could have been avoided. i feel sad. i feel sad that people didn't really step up and say, it's time we need to, we need to pay attention to this and do what we need to do. it's too many lives and probably been lost. as a result of it, for days, hundreds of firefighters were picking through the rubble. the rescue operation is
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now halted as expanding cracks in other instabilities in the structure post danger till their lives digging was already slow because of the risk of further collapse for workers emotion or another obstacle. it's very sad the times that i've been going up on the title and use find strollers and baby bottles. it just brings a sense of reality to you know, it's very touching because i have, i have kids, myself, a 2018 inspection warranty, structural damages to the building. the focus is now on similar, high rises in the county, 40 years, and older inspectors are now checking 40 other high rise buildings for damages, a large effort that could still be enough if the owners don't have enough money to get the necessary work done in case of the chaplain towers and necessary repairs
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could have cost $100000.00 u. s. dollars per unit. darrow arnold, who lives opposite the champ, playing tower, is believe something has to change. he has his own theory on why the building was and repaired, despite the findings of structural damage. what happened in this case is the city official inspector said that there was nothing to worry about imminently. and people breath breathed probably a sigh of relief because they didn't want to find the money to deal with the problem. i assume that's going to change in light of this incident and you're going to have much more care and caution going forward. much healing is needed in surfside florida, but for now, the beach community is reeling from this historic tragedy. oliver had we learned any more about the possible cause of this building collapsing
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. read initially. it looked like this building came down with no warning, just like that in the middle of the night. over the last days. however, we're seeing as someone dramatic different picture, really, especially if we look at the 2018 inspection, those reports, they're saying the structural damage of the building was known. and then we also learned a few days ago that the president of the condominium association wrote to its owners in a letter of significance, a deterioration of the conditions there. he said that $15000000.00 us dollars are needed to repair the building. and now if you look at the situation, there's a lot of senior citizens living in those condominiums, they might not have this money as you heard in the report up to $100000.00 per unit . the city inspector had a different account also. he thought it was less urgent and that's probably what the owners went with. so it looks plausible, certainly, but we have to see what the final investigation will say,
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and that will take several months from now. and what about this concern that other buildings in the area may be at risk of collapsing? i mean, how widespread is that for you? certainly some conservative, you speak to people who are on the street. many live in similar buildings to tell you that they, they haven't, they don't have a good feeling right now. of course, there are many older buildings of that type along the east coast of the us and many of them are checked right now are inspected. 40 of them just in this county where we are. the problem is that we've learned, we've learned that lesson from, from sir side is knowing the damages of a building doesn't necessarily mean that they're being fixed in the hopes that many people have right now is that some legal action will follow. i spoke to a board member of another condominium building and she told me that they should force owners to sell their apartments if they can't afford the repairs, which would certainly be a very tough measure. but perhaps one to avoid
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a situation like we've seen here in source, drastic for sure. you w gulliver's analysis, surfside, florida. tonight oliver, thank you. the trump organization and its long time chief financial officer today pleaded not guilty to tax fraud charges. new york prosecutors are accusing truck organization, cfo alan wizell burg, personally, avoiding taxes on $1700000.00 of income drums company allegedly ran a quote, sweeping and all dangerous scheme to keep executive pay off. the books are, these are the 1st criminal charges filed against the trump organization. the former us president himself is not facing charges at this time. the me, the i
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britney spears. it was only 16 years old when she released that smash hit the baby . one more time, her the hardest amount of the pump news it. 20 years later, a court in the united states has denied the request by the finger to remove her father from a guardianship arrangement. that gives him control of her fair. here said supplied just last week that she has been abused under the arrangement. and another storm making news, thanks to the court us. comedian bill cosby was released yesterday from prison after pennsylvania supreme court overturned his conviction for sexual assault. the court ruled that a prior deal with the prosecutor barred cosby from being charged. the former comedian was convicted in jailed in 2018 for drugging and sexually assaulting a woman. at is a state or a k. j. matthews is an entertainment journalist following these stories for us. she
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joins me from los angeles. good evening to you. k j. it's been a busy week, the world sees bill cosby go free and many say if he had not been a celebrity, there would have been no deal and he would still be in prison. you know, that's a fair statement. that's a very thorough statement, and a lot of people here in the u. s. have been saying the same thing or are saying it quietly, so to speak. you know, bill cosby is rich bill cosby is famous. bill cosby has the money as a multi millionaire to hire a big team of attorneys. they can fit through this appeal process. you know, from the moment that he was found guilty about 2 or 3 years ago, he's had a team of attorneys that have been filing various paper work to try to get him out of prison on appeal. so he's have the right team with the right lawyers doing all that. however, many people have said if he was another person of color, possibly black implore the u. s. he would really be under the thumb of
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a public defender where their funds come from taxpayer. so he wouldn't have the best legal defense. so yes, there probably are many people in this country who has had deals thrown at them from various district attorneys, and maybe what to, to present or with the jail. and just simply didn't have the resources to fight it . so that is a fair assessment. let me ask you about the judge's decision not to revoke the conservative ship of brittany spears. do we know why the court said no? you know, it was very weird. li word it, but to the best of my knowledge, it sounds like what the judge was saying is that he feel is concerned about britney spears being st. acceptable could fraud and being taken advantage of financially. and because of that, at this point, he would like pick or the she, the judge would like to keep brittany spears father attached to this financial conservative ship to make sure that he's not taken advantage. set people are over
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spending most of her money and the things are still going steadily the way they have been for the last decade. for now. now the judge still hasn't made his final decision as to whether or not this conservatorship will end in the near future. that will only come after brittany spears attorney officially file a resolution to in this conservative ship, which she has not done yet. and then of course, the judge would have to make a ruling on that. so that will come a couple months down the line. you know, we talked about this last week wondering if we really know all sides of the story. and apparently there is much more that is not public much more maybe that brittany spears is not disclosed. yes, yes. i mean apparently what we're hearing that she actually has been trying to in the servitor ship for years. i think people thought last week when they heard or was her 1st time coming forward saying i want out of this, but she's actually been fighting back and been wanting to get out this conservatorship for years. and that there was
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a number of reasons she gave us 25 minutes last week of why she was very angry and why she was unhappy and why she wanted to conservatorship to in. but that's not everything. we still don't know a lot about her mental health. we know that at one point she was forced to get on, lithium and lithium is usually to use to treat a lot of disorders like bipolar disorders, depression mania. but we still don't know exactly what she's been diagnosed with and what she's currently on and why whatever she is on or taking in addition to therapy, would not be enough to send her on the road to recovery and possibly in the conservatorship at some point. so there's so many questions that are still to be answered, that we don't know everything just yet. you know, that's true. that's very true. matthews in los angeles is always k j. it's good to talk with you. we appreciate the insights. thank you. thank you. the
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prince william, prince harry having build a statue of their late mother, diana, was killed in a car crash in paris in 1997. the ceremony held in the gardens at kensington palace, briefly were united the 2 brothers who were at odds over allegations of racism within the royal family. today would have been diana's 60th birthday. we can say with certainty tonight that she would not have been happy over her son's being a strange from each other. her love for them was undeniable. one can only wonder what her sons would be like today what the royals would be like today. what would the princess die be like today? had she lived? one can only wonder. well, the day is almost done, the can conversation. it continues online. you could find us on twitter either at
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police, my we are here is actually on fire. for mines in the how much freedom to members of the l g b t q. community enjoy? well, in recent weeks, gay pride marches and countries around the world have underlined the solidarity in the community discrimination violence and even the death penalty are still part of the global agenda of hate has been angry criticism of hungary, new anti l g b t q law and of european suckers blocking as the use of the movements rainbow colors. that's a big european champ chip match in mute. and so on the point on to the points we
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ask, hate against l g b, c, q house of tackle exclusion use . thanks so much indeed for joining us here on the show. and my guests in the studio are jo hutchinson, who is a us lawyer and journalist who believes that symbolic gestures are a good start. but what really helps the queer community meaningful reforms. pascal to go for radio, france and us, you know, is also with us. he argues that western europe is tolerant, but not quite as tolerant as it might think. a very warm welcome to suburban 3, got the w correspondent in brussels. he says, not only hungary, many eastern european countries have problems with sexual minorities. thank you for being with me today. all 3 of you and i'd like to go 1st of all to joe and
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suggest that there is something in the end we've reached a certain juncture. were there an awful lot of people who want to talk about gender inclusion, exclusion, all these aspects of, of life? yeah. suddenly it's the top of the agenda. why? why i think my personal belief is that there's so many other priorities that governments should be focused on. but this is a convenient little way to distract people so hungry. this is the 2nd line, i think last year they made it possible. they made it impossible for trans people to change their genders from the one they were signed at birth. this is absolutely a campaign they're following. what russia has done before them, sexual minorities are a great scape goat for a lot of social ills. and then even in, i say, germany or in the united states, we always see these kind of stoking the culture wars. you know, there's, it's always a great thing to pick groups or society against each other to distract us, frankly,
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from the pressing needs of, you know, he cannot make crisis in climate change. what he says stoking the culture was, well, i think i agree. i think it's, i mean it's nothing new that folk of elements, it's very, it's a very easy politic to use or to me use to be arise, some minorities for a new roma, people, sexual minorities, etc, may be to, to develop a debate to come to focus on the, on the topic, which maybe is not the, the number one priority in the country, but so at the same time it avoids maybe to talk about order. we may well, would you maybe let me surrounding developments in hungary, for example, that has been a very real political debate of course. yeah. and i mean the, the politic which mr. albany has implemented in the last years now is also can also concern sexual minority. and the n g
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t i q can minority but in the past we also had several at legal attacks. so to say against cb rides. so it's also a new development in something which has been developed in the last chosen. it's also, it's also we will hear it maybe it's also interesting, interesting that european union has these time was this time much more faster to react, done in the past, in, in which what hungary did. ok, we will go to boundary, get in, in brussels, in just a moment. the tensions that it can be, no doubt about it are running high between the hungarian government of victor or the prime minister and the european union leaders over the controversial new law in hungary. widely described as an anti l g. b. c q law. here are some impressions of what has been going on. it was an unusual display of followed dirty before the
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international magic and hungry. many driven fans waved the rainbow flag representing their support for the l. g. b t q community entire stadiums were also supposed to shine colorfully infallibility at the european championship. but it was prohibited by the u. s. a. by contrast, hungary fans for almost aggressive and their support for their team, which was eliminated from the european championship. the next day at the summit in brussels, victor, or by most threatened with another expulsion. this time from the you may have, it's not for me. there's nothing for hungary in the european union, but unfortunately in the system we currently have. i can't do anything on my own about. i can only force them out with the support of the other members. stay on the cards for the outrage. the hungarian parliament plans on banning materials in school meant to educate students on homosexuality. nearly all you members bar in
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poland is lavinia considered a lot to be a clear violation of the values such as freedom from discrimination. consequently, it got a little bit lonely, around 6 or oregon at the you summit. and yet he still sees himself as being unjustly targeted. so i am defending the rights of the sexual guys, but the slope is not about that. it's about the rights of the kids and the parents . how homophobic is hungry, new law, really? very good. how homophobic is the lower and do you feel more comfortable that the victor oberon is now seeing himself as a champion of homosexuals for this new law is just the tip of the iceberg. in hungary, there's a tendency to discriminate more and more against gays, lesbians, transgender people. this law is, shall prevent the young people get any information about the sexual minorities. it's meant to safe. the family value is, is
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a long process. and mr. and maybe he says he's not against gays, industrials, but he sees that with this kind of policies. he caters to his audience, he's in an election campaign coming up, and he sees that to society and hungry actually responds to this. he maybe has the feeling that as a society, once that in this is a problem in hungry and, and in many other mostly eastern european countries, for example, in poland in bulgaria and romania. so there's still periods is against the energy d, b, q, community. and he's using that, but he got very harsh criticism for the 1st time. the commission president said this is a disgrace and he was threatened by the dutch prime minister as you heard. and also the luxembourg is prime minister savvy. better was himself as a person and said that and understood nothing about the gay invest in community.
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but it didn't impress him. i guess the law is still in place and hungary and now the commission has to su, hungry in luxembourg at the or p and cord. so there's a long way to go and it's all political messier and brussels. it's interesting that you mentioned this battle of the prime minister of luxembourg. his comments were very, very much he's own. they were very much, they were not just policy statements. they were emotions. can you tell us what he said? he was very personally. he told the 26 of the state governments in brussels about his own coming out about his the fights with his mother. she didn't understand that he's gay and stuff like that. and he said it's, it's hungry. and if all bond is pursuing these kind of policy, he personally fields and touched and threatened and there was a very loud discussion. and only the polish ends is levine in prime is about on the side of hungary and all others and said,
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better is right of cause that you cannot do this in europe in the 21st century that that has to stop. and the part should be in the other direction, not going back, rolling back the rights of gays and lesbians. the other way around. pascal, what do you make these comments from the dutch prime minister mark router saying that there is no place for hungary in the e u. we will see if it's only a sentence or if it, if we will have some consensus that we all know that it's almost impossible to get rid of a country and to exclude these country from the european union. it's very difficult also to agree on sanctions. again, the country, so i prefer to wait if there will be consequences, but it's sure that these values and some other ones are the ground principles of should be the wrong principles of our modern european civilization.
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and it, but it's of course, it's for people like all but auto, auto ones in porn and elsewhere. it's of course, wonderful topic too because it's linked to identity. and so you can, with such a topic, increase the fear of the map of a lot of people in the into pollution. of a lot of heterosexual people, especially if they are more conservative, will have the impression, their own identity will be question. we had the same debate with huge demonstration, 9 years ago in france, when the heterosexual marriage was open. it a lot of people, a lot of friends in germany, told me how is it possible in france at the beginning of the 21st century? because these people think a new low for minority, we'll take them some right. they always have but it's not about that. it's about
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getting some right to people who didn't have them. that's a different stroke. yes, i think what we see time and time again is and i don't want to just, i know things are difficult and easier, but i don't want to look to pretend as if the problem is only in eastern europe. and so when i see people like, and i know he's, he's probably well intention or we need to look at what can we change from that a societal level. because depending on where you go, it's not that we always have for i always experienced the same rights and privileges of the matter where i go, you know, living in berlin. i do not walk around the streets holding my partner's hand because i don't feel safe here. to do that, you don't do that full so absolutely not, no, i will not do that because i have to constantly be scrutinizing are we going to be personally attacked verbally or physically that's happening? and so why understand, we should apply pressure and countries like hungry?
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i think there are other ways to do it. i think at a super national level. so you know, the european leaders talking to themselves. i think business leaders could threaten, you know, to pull their factories out of hungry if they don't get in line with what your p values are. i think that's the proper way to do it, but not to assume that it's only a hungry work for people are under attack. will tell us, would tell us, tell us about where else you're aware of, you know, similar levels of threat around europe who anywhere else. well, so it definitely so you know, speaking for my personal opinion, there's certain places where i feel more comfortable and for various reasons. so again, it's not, it's generally for me, not a country, it's, you know, i might feel safer in an urban center than i would in the countryside somewhere because of various aspects of how i'm going to be perceived and how hostile potentially people are going to be to me, so i think when we're talking about the rights of sexual minorities, thank you for awesome and you know, like racial minorities, ethnic minorities,
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there's a whole tapestry of, you know, we have, you know, europe's heritage is that it's all very varied and different. but i think we're also seeing now that there isn't one uniform european experience. it really depends on a day to day basis. you know, where are you in how you moving through society spent in this discussion between, between brussels and hungary. what is likely to happen next? where is that discussion likely to go by the commission? the open up an infringement procedure. in summary, this is to form the step and then take hungry to the cords. but the commission, i was trying to convince hungary with a threat, and that's about money because the disbursement of funds from the next you budget is linked to a state of law mechanism. it's called and this could be used for the 1st time in this case. but there's a still a way to go because every mellow member states have to agree and polish silvia on
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the side of hungary. so it's still complicated. but i also wanted to say that even in countries like belgium here in brussels, you are not always as safe as a game. and you can of course, hold the hand of you know, if your partner in the european quarter. but if you go downtown, the muslim communities, the migrant committees live there, it's very advised not to do that. so they also problem in western europe. and it's a societal problem. it's not only politics because the rights in belgium, in the books are perfect for gays. bedroom is ranking on the 2nd place in the list that the rainbow and lobby groups do every year more to the 1st place in europe and better the 2nd. and so, but they're still problems. tell me about what we know about the situation of young members of the l g, b t q, community, these days. somebody let's say in their early twenties,
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looking to sort of design the, the life they have ahead of you know, they want to have out of them. is that now easier than, than it used to be, let's say 20 years ago, or do the same kinds of problems that have always been there remain? i would say, generally speaking, the situation has improved positively. we have more legal rights, nice ations which are active. you have more places which can offer certain protection or give you advices, especially in bigger cities. but on the other hand, it depends where you live. it will be of course, much more difficult if you leave in a little check village on a little hungary and village where you have a very conservative population. it depends also what's your background of course issue.

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