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how climate change and environmental conservation is taking shape around the world and how we can all make a difference. knowledge grows through sharing, download it now for me, how effective vaccine, against new forms of cobit 19. a preliminary study from israel appears to suggest the by on tech finds a job off is less protection against the delta variance than previous strains to 64 percent. that's a lot lower than other estimates of nearly 90 percent. so does this change how we fight the pandemic? the delta strain has changed the transmission dynamics everywhere. and in israel also, we know it is more sexual from person to person. we also know it has some better

capacity to evade the immune system as compared to the office train. the good news is that fully vaccinated people rarely surfaced the effects even with the delta variant. and despite rise in cases, israel hasn't seen a death in over 2 weeks on robots in berlin. welcome to this code, 19 special in israel, current of ours case numbers are creeping up again. the country has been roundly praised for it switched back summation program, but house officials, they're all proceeding with caution, with a local study suggesting the biotech 5, the job is not as effective against the invading dose of area as previously thought . younger israelis are being encouraged to get vaccinated. the adam good. he's taking his daughter's leah and i've been to get vaccinated. more and more young israelis age 12 to 15 and now getting their job like here at this small

clinic and class saba. not least because of the fast spreading, delta very and, and because many have plans for the summer i think it's really good. it gives us much more freedom and it's nice to find the, you know, corona's over soon, hopefully. and yeah, i think it's important. it's still not stat old because the countries have still not, not all the countries, but in the have gotten put unity to have the vaccines. but hopefully we'll be able to go sound down to very and has driven infections to levels not seen in israel since april, mainly among vaccinated people because we still have a nice amount of people dictated young people like to see here increasing affects nathan, them young people that can be vaccinated, and we still see a portion of the elderly people and not feel vaccinated for various reasons. some

vaccination people also have been infected for now the number needing hospital treatment remains low, although the figures are rising. so we do see people who actually acquired the delta after being gimme an ice and the intern submitted. yet their chances to be severely ill to be hospitalized or to die or slim. so we, we definitely see a very important role for the innovation use. railey government is pushing for 12 to 15 year olds to be a knock. elated now with the bio tech 5 vaccine. prime minister, enough tally bennett is appealing to young people directly. and you know, that come up with some of the guys that i know how much you want to enjoy the summer. and you can, i also have 4 kids your age and they to want to enjoy the summer. we don't want to impose any restrictions on anyone know bands on parties, trips, no bubbles,

nothing but you need to talk to your parents and get vaccinated. so that we have a wonderful summer with no closures. and no restrictions of israel has re imposed an indoor mosque mandate and titan controls that the main international airport for good is relieved that his teenage daughters and now protect it. it was somewhat of a difficult decision because there are a lot of unknowns, but there are a lot of unknowns in parenting. how long do you give them on the i pad. what time should they go to bed? what food should they? what i know is that the vaccine would, these are all, had the big problems with the pandemic. and since everyone's got vaccinated over the age of 16, the problems of all but disappeared further restrictions might be impose just to delta variant continues to spread. but for now, israel aims to get most youngsters over 12 fully vaccinated before some of its

doses expire later this month. we can now speak to professor a our lesson who is a director, israel largest hospice, all of the sheba medical center. thanks for joining us on the cave in 1900 special . can you tell us how concerned you are about the rising number of current of virus cases in israel? we are not very concerned because we have by now pretty good information about the effectiveness in preventing severe disease television and what we learned here and also from information that comes from the u. k. the maxine is more than 90 percent effective in prevent i think severe. the reason why we may see an increase in the number of respect that we will probably only see a very much increase in severe disease. now we have had this city from israel suggesting the voluntary 5 vaccine is less effective at stuffing the spread of the delta variance 60 percent rather than close to 90. like you were just saying. and

what was your take on those results when it didn't pull them to differentiate the vaccine effectiveness in preventing infection, which is not very good against that, which mean even if you're vaccinated, you may still become infected. and this have to be differentiate from the box. you know, again, be the primary goal of the vaccine. the main objective is to make how, even if you get infected, you don't develop a severe disease and you don't get hospitalized for the mortality. and in this, the maxine is very, very effective. so does that mean that there's no action required, based upon this suggestion of the 5 vaccine is less effective at stopping the spread of the, at the variance? i would suggest the public health option. so it's the same that we'd be taking the response to the increasing k. it's going to be balanced against the re low. we

offer shopping ation. so in reality, what this means is we may be required to wear must, we may leave state the green batch system makes will only make people going to crowded spaces, but we don't need to close. course we don't need look downs and we don't need to close law space says, which is the main, the most important thing to maintain that one, no matter where the normal lifestyle vaccinations, israel half plateaued is around 60 percent of the population is not enough. when obviously it was enough back in a little bit when the main buy was placed was the fact that, you know, we've been more infected, it is not enough. so we will on one hand, try to increase their portion vaccinate vaccine college. but on the other hand,

more closely, what is the reason of the c increasing infection on the number of severe cases? so should that be more vaccination of teenagers, for example? is that the next step will on one hand, yes, more like selection will still included fall to get these more portion about 10 percent of people that are local 50 to get their food vaccine to don't as soon as possible from the medical center inside of a thanks for joining us on the 1900 special. thank you. now is the part of the program where we put one of your questions to ask science correspondent derek williams. oh, i had to be 19, how long should i wait to get vaccinated? and should i get one or 2 doses mirror several layers to this question?

and the 1st thing that i want to say that although the data that we have on immunity after infection indicates that protection is probably quite long. lasting health care authorities, like the w h o, and the cdc still recommends that people who've recovered from covered 19 get vaccinated. that's because the evidence also seems to show that a post infection vaccination kind of kicks the immune response up a couple of notches and might make you even less likely to be effective. again, at some point, if you're exposed recommendations for how long you should wait to get backs needed after recovery are, are fairly vague, but basically boil down to waiting at least a couple of weeks. there's not a lot of time pressure, as the vast majority of people who recovered appear well protected from possible

reinfection for months. but as of now, authorities definitely recommend you do get it done if you can. the question of whether you should get one dose or 2 is a little more complex. in a study published in april, for example, us researchers discovered that antibody response in people who recovered from the disease sword if they got just one shot of a messenger r n, a vaccine to the equivalent of what happened in someone who never been infected. after getting to shots, other research indicates there might not be many added benefits to getting a 2nd shot which has led. busy authorities, for instance, in some countries here in europe, to recommend most people who tested positive for code 1900 in the past, get just one shot, at least for now. the millions of doses that move saves can then be used to speed

up for protection. for those who have never had the disease, but really nailing down a firm across the board recommendation whether 2 shots is best or if just one really suffices. it looks like that's going to take a while, not least, because the booster effect will differ from person to person and from vaccine to vaccine me. now let's take a look at some of the other around a virus story is making headlines. pakistan has received 3500000 doses of the medina vaccines, and they said by the united states through the kofax initiative. so far, pakistan has partially vaccinated, around 13 and a half 1000000 people. a welcome news as another wave of the virus is currently spreading through south asia. as you in california has vaccinated its animals

against covert. 19 the oakland who says the jobs were donated by a veterinary pharmaceutical company and not taken from vaccine stops the humans. among the residents receiving the shops, disease big cats, and a black bear named can and that's all from this addition of the covered $900.00 special until next time. ah, me enter the conflict with sebastian. when it comes to foreign policy, it's getting harder to work out what the use stands for. my get this week is almost pipe vice chair. far in the past committee. can he explain why such a powerful block of nations seems to punch so far below its weight? on the world stage? d, w. in route and happiness is

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you member states supported. and some persuasion is required. the time. when the game of diplomatic poker, interesting power plays and alliances behind the scenes of the climate summit starts august 5th on d, w. the me russia continues. why a lation of international law and human rights when it couldn't really be much worse their behavior couldn't. there are steps always can be worse. why was the e u so it will prepare to one of the most complicated issues for european foreign policy. is there any point in pushing ahead with enlargement plan the perspective to get the membership is also very important. when it comes to foreign policy, it's getting harder to work out what the use stands for. too many disagreements

among members, too many grand intentions and find words to little to show for them. my guess this week is or must pipe nice, jared european parliament for the fast committee. and he joins me from strasburg. and he explained my, such a powerful block of nations seems to punch so far below its way on the world stage . the news for my pipe welcome to conflict zone. hello. let's start if we may, with russia, which presents a number of key foreign policy challenges to the e. u. since the seizure of crimea, the ear has imposed a huge variety of sanctions on moscow. can you think of any way in which those sanctions have to any degree changed moscow's behavior?

well, if you look at the history of sanctions globally, then it's of course, always an issue. how much and how fast sanctions will have its influence. and what concerns russia then? yes, so we have seen that so far that has been no immediate direct influence because russia continues. why a lation of international law and human rights be in the ukraine, be in russia, in some other 3rd places. but there is also always question what these are, what should be an alternative if one country is systematically and harshly violates international law and human rights. so that yeah, they meet at the impact. yeah. so for the time being the sanctions have been useless. and my question is really, what's the point of continuing to take measures that have no effect? is it to make people in the you feel better about it? well,

part of politics always is also that the public opinion should approve the steps. but there is also an issue that if you these days just stop sanctions without anything really has been changed in russian behavior, then it's also they show for your credibility. so the politically, it's also impossible, just skip sanctions without anything really has happened. yeah, so not only did you not change rushes bay, you haven't managed really to mitigate the effects of it either. have you, for example, there was talk of reaching out to supporting civil society and russia. that avenue has also been closed off by the russian since they've come down on a lot of civil society. so that's not working either. is it? well, here i can disagree. i think that the russian cb societies as part of it. these unfortunately abroad has got a lot of political moral, but also financial support from european countries lost. also there is they show

when we speak about sanctions, we don't know what could and would be a rush and behavior without the direction of a west though, for the europe of the united states. because unfortunately, always it don't so well can be worst. so that in this regard, i also don't see real alternative to the europe and invest in action and behavior via russian violation of human rights and thrown a law when it couldn't really be much worse. their behavior could is, i mean they've invaded a sovereign state. they kill that political opponents on european territory. they hack into your election systems. what could actually be worse? there? signaling if such a thing is possible that these sanctions don't matter a job to them. they're going ahead with the disruptive behavior. well, i will not elaborate here,

and i guess that you understand very well that well, there are steps which always can be worse because i remember before 2014 they were also majority, i guess western politicians who say that it will never happen, that the pressure will attack its neighbors. well, it happened 2014. so that to say today that it cannot be worse. well, unfortunately it can. you've been extremely critical of the use foreign policy chief barajo called his visit to moscow in february, a colossal failure of the commission by contrast, expressed full support for it. who are we supposed to believe? was it a success or failure? well, this concrete visit was failure. because the timing was very, very bad and it was already foreseen that nothing good can not come out from this visit. so that in distance, i clearly understand they support that. also during difficult times that dialogue

and conversation is important. but it's always that timing matters, and the timing for this particular visit, especially to moscow was, was very bad. and also the place for meetings was that was not the best one. i guess that if you start or you restart the contacts and dialogue, then your 1st your chose more, no trouble places for this kind of visits. and also well, you should chose appropriate timing in this regard. and of course, the messages their messages should be no much, much clearer and stronger in this regard. and of course, based on the well common approach from 2070 you'll member say, well mr. morale said he went to challenge rushes behavior with regard to human rights to see if they would engage on the issue. he came back saying they wouldn't . what more could he have done? he tried, he tried to failed. it wasn't worth trying. well,

i don't think that he had to go with with any expense. once again, i think that the timing for this particular visit was very bad. so that i guess that different timing, maybe also some different the message is good and should be well fed. the role and keep maybe some better outcome, although yeah, we all know that the rush at the moment has no interest at all to improve the relations with weston democracy. so that then disregard the bills. i should understand that for real development, so they should be also some change of thinking in, in russia. and it is not happening at this very moment. and it says, no change in thinking. and as you say, there isn't so, so what do you left with? there's one kid on the block who wants to play nice and that's you and the other one doesn't your left looking pretty weak by contrast and, you know, i,

i don't think so. i also don't think the threat. she's the only player in the world . i think that that the stage you have to clearly strengthen her relations with united states, also with the united kingdom, with other them across the countries. and we want to get that. i mean, the western democracies have to keep much more adequate balance point globally. where on the one site at the moment, the western democracies and on the other site b go to retard. there seems like china, russia and some others. so that's, i guess at this stage you also have to concentrate much more on strengthening real functioning relationship with us and other democracies. well perhaps if you concentrate more on the strengthening relationships within the block itself. because the biggest drawback for the you is your chronic disunity, isn't that you've written about this yourself. this dream of

a common foreign policy is rapidly drawing to an end. isn't it time to admit that certain steps which i would like to see 1st, the different foreign policy? oh, my see foreign trade development corporation also defense policy. they should work much more together. and secondly, i think that we also don't have to need any more consensus in each and every foreign policy decision, for example, issues related to human rights and sanctions based on human rights. i don't think that we need here consensus so that this is also tie him to increase the efficiency of european for police. yes, but i mean, we've had a prime example of this unity just recently when france and germany proposed restarting summits with moscow, which had been suspended since 2014. and that led to howls of protest among other member states because no one else had been consulted. so not only do you have

consultation is use you have this unity issues, which are ensuring that the e u, the largest trading block in the well punches consistently below its weight on the international stage, doesn't it? well, that's why i say that we also have to well, little bit change the mechanism of decision making and also for insecurity police issues. but what concerns french and german proposal stand? well, like, i think that every and each country can make proposals, but then they are a p, i'm counsel, we're on $27.00, president easter place, but then they decide what the right to do and, and what's not that this very moment. so that's actually, i don't blame german than, than french governments for making this proposal because what we also have seen during this last years, when all the meetings between e o and, and russia have been suspended. we have seen that some member states have had and still having bilateral meetings and then they don't represent eels common positions

. so that in this regard to avoid the situation, i guess that don't so certain contacts and then also meetings between you and russia anyway are necessary. but here again, the timing is important that gender is important. and of course, also clear political well bases and political commitment from all member states and doing something that makes a difference, which we haven't seen so far doing something that actually changes russia's behavior. well, i guess this is anyway, very difficult, the difficult se target because if there is no political willingness in russia to change the right, it would be that we spend, which we well, the human values, rule of law and so on. then anyway, from abroad, it is also very difficult to influence, and we also should realize that well, be called to retire in the regimes like russia and china are making more and more

cooperation because the same issues of human rights and international law. they don't bother them, so that the hero, so we should not, in the sense, been a even play only ourselves, but here on so there, well, the real political will or absence of, of this will also matters. while i mean you read yourself, that's the strength of the you comes from unity that this unity was on show during the recent fighting in the middle east between the palestinians and israel. when you failed, even to issue unanimous statement on the conflict because it was blocked by hungry, not even a. you can't even unify over a statement, never mind doing anything that makes a difference to the situation on the ground. that's pretty shameful, isn't it? that's why i say that, but i guess we have to shift from a consensus from every and each issue to some majority voting to increase the level

of efficiency of the u. s. foreign policy. and well, we also should realize that the l e o is not a single country. it is $27.00 countries. and we all can imagine that it is not the easiest duty or aim to get always the same language from 2710 sensitive issues like middle east, missed them. if the pied you have plenty of people sitting around talking about policy, the conflict in the middle east isn't new. surely somebody should have been prepared to force the particular kinds of actions when the next bout of fighting broke out. but they didn't do that. my question is, why was the e u so ill prepared to do something in this instance in the middle east as it has been on previous instances, you don't seem to learn from any lessons well already. i guess the unfortunate fact that the conflict in middle east is not new already shows that it is very

complex and complicated issue. and i would say that the actually the see one of the most, the complicated issues for europe and foreign policy, but also for foreign policy, many other countries in the world. and you can imagine that if there are 27 and you have split in opinions, not only between the governments but the same site, the member states, then it is very difficult really to reach consensus so that all their complexity and all the sensitivity is what concerns middle east conflict. well, yes, all reflected also in your foreign policy making so that i admit, this is one of the most difficult issues. and actually i also don't foresee that the foreseeable future that will be overwhelming and large consensus about these issues. but is it enough for people in the you like you and senior officials to just say, oh, it's a difficult issue and ring your hands and wait for the next is off the strike in

which you won't be able to play any kind of role. you'll just be left by the side of the road, watching the former jordanian foreign minister. my one washer says that use become passive, accepting a status quo that it doesn't even want. that's true, isn't it? you don't want the current situation because you haven't got any ideas for fixing it. well, i guess that in some issues, so globally, also in immediate neighborhood of europe use foreign policy has been quite successful when we speak, for example, ups about supporting democratic movement. speed ga, be ukraine beat, some other countries where on safe if you look at the changes in the, in the western ball consent and so on and so on. and then yes, you also can of course find examples where it's really difficult to make a difference. and even to reach consensus in d, u, the same middle east issue. so these as long as you is not one country,

but the combination of 27 at the state. sure. well, it also remained like this that not in all foreign policy issues you easily can reach very brilliant consensus or, or you can push forward very brilliant ideas where they're united position of each member states. this is really strong so that if you look at the middle east, then yes it last, it already dictates and dick gates, but it's not only the europe piano and in also no other country came out with the solution which, which really can be helpful. so that, that's why disease really sensitive and complex and problematic issue. you talk about progress in the west mulkins with, with all the disruptions spreading inside the you. is there any point in pushing ahead with enlargement plans there? don't you have enough problems without importing feuds and organized crime and the

drug and people trafficking and smuggling from the west. mulkins, they don't seem to be making a lot of progress in cracking down on organized crime that do they for all of the progress that you talk about. well, i think, i think the patience in distance is needed because if we compare where we are the majority, for example, of eastern european countries in early 900 ninety's and where there are these days was not a show of one or 2. yes, it was they show of couple of the case and in the sense in the future, i also see the same kind of development with the remaining western balkan countries which are not in the yet that the perspective to get membership is also very important to really implement all these changes so that when we speak about serbia or boston a has to be in our or any other country after 20 or 30 years, then we really will see that the u. e. o. perspective membership perspective has

really made difference. well, i mean you talk about that you take take bulgarian romania for instance. they had to be put under special monitoring for more than 10 years because of problems with the rule of law issues, problems with massive corruption which persists to this day. that hasn't been any picnic for the rest of europe having bulgarian romania and the amount of crime that it generates and the amount of corruption that both countries generate on your doorstep. that hasn't been a great gift present. again, i think that that without this european union perspective and without european union member membership, i think also there risks for the rest of europe have been much, much larger. and where you mentioned romania pool area, which are one of the pressure steel member states. well, but with all mother stay, look at my own country, estonia. if i look back 30 or 25 years,

and if i think about the stone today, i still think that it has been a great achievement of europe that well, they took estonia and, and we managed to showing. and if you look at all the changes, but of course it takes time because all what happened with these particular countries in eastern europe, they didn't happen within a couple of years. they happened to within half a century, 50 years of how to say wrong history. and now to imagine that they were to think can be fixed with a couple of years. well, it's illusion, but it will happen, but it will take time. mr. pied how worried you about the news this week. the parties of the far right of formed an alliance against brussels, saying they'll fight for what they call national sovereignty and tried to prevent a european state visa, 16 parties from 15 countries in the european union, in a direct challenge to the rules that they signed up to when they exceeded to the

european union, that's hardly progress. is it? well i, i'm not worried because we have seen this kind of slogan, send attempt so, so during previous years, i know there is no one election senior than slogans i mean, they managed to bring you to south to a standstill inside. marian no, i disagree so far its own this logan, since we have seen the slogan sunset during previous years, because you, if you look at these concrete political parties, then they are very different. some parties are very progression. some are very much against russia. some part these wants to very strong involvement of the state in economy. some other part this they don't want. so that in subs from substance actually they are very, very different. and it also has been the reason why so far they didn't manage to unite their forces. so that's one of the things that i'd like them. one of the

things that does unite them is the issue of migrants, which has been particularly devices for the you. and i think that's actually the majority of citizens in europe. they are very worried about the migration issues starting from this that why people don't have to leave data, their homeland in the sunsets, it's very human and in lots of cases human tragedy. so that i guess the majority of people in europe in distance don't want to see that people will have to leave their homes and start the life of g. i'm not only about total saying yes, miss denied. perhaps the most disappointing aspect which human rights groups are underlined last month is how the e u has failed to safeguard people. again, serious human rights violations at its external borders. the spotlight has fallen on the border agency front, tx, which is accused by human rights watch of failing repeatedly to take action of allegations of human rights violations. that's a serious issue, isn't it?

it's exposed deep pulled lines in the values that all men to countries was supposed to sign up to have been a major disappointment for you. why the, for me, the big disappointment actually is that we still have the situation that there are lots of people who have to leave that homes and they have chosen the weight to it to be in refugee. so that once again, i think that europe, but also other strong countries in the world. they have to do everything that people simply don't have to leave their homes. but the for ready, there are if which east and of course you have to handle this. you have to handle the people who have well the right for protection. they should get it. and people who don't have this, right, they well should be returned. yes. more so way or it's the way they are being treated at the european union's borders by the board agency, front tech. this is what has attracted

a lot of attention from the human rights and a lot of human rights groups and a lot of criticism as well. that from tx, the border agency is accused of failing repeatedly to take action over allegations of human rights violations. why is that, and why is it allowed? well of course all. busy this kind of why a lation, so for existing laws and rules, they should not happen. so that in distance, i also hope that the be front tech sort of be any other organisation has to have its lessons learned so that this kind of thing should not happen again. but we also should understand that well, for many people, for many organizations, including crumpets, last years, they have been very fast and rapid development. there have been lots of changes in their organization and lots of changes in situation just to concrete. that doesn't justify ministry. absolutely not. absolutely not, absolutely not but,

but i think that our perspective also should be to the future so that all dismiss treatment cent violations they should be investigated so that they will not happen again because yeah, i agree that all this kind of stuff that people have been treated badly or, or against the law that they should never happen again. is it any wonder then the, when these things happening, that so many in europe feel that the european project is in serious trouble? last month there was new polling and research by the council on foreign relations, which showed that majorities in france, germany, italy, spain and austria, now judged the e u to be broken in france. the figure was just over 60 percent onto worried by these high levels of dissatisfaction with the functioning of the you. well, i haven't seen this figure. my last figures we're bit more optimistic. but anyway,

of course, this is every day. so work to explain why still it is important that europe on countries ought to get there and make operation because what is and i'll turn up if every and each, while european country will be on its own. in today's world, nobody really can balance be china, be try show also either big players so that if you look from economic point to fuel field, so look from security point to fuel personal freedoms, point a fuel than i did. and i personally didn't discover any real turn on if the present situation, but of course it needs explanation. it needs also work with public opinion, or must pied spin good to have you on comes exam. thank you very much indeed. thank you. the news

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