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[000:00:00;00] the who's busy w live from japan announces a new corona virus emergency for tokyo, with weeks to go to the olympics, or in case numbers for the government to step up restrictions or games without any spectators in the stadium is now like also coming up south africa the former president is behind bob jacobs, who begins a 15 month prison sentence for contempt of court. and in
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a stand off and handling himself into authorities over and you find german tom akin so blocked in clean technology and says, big car companies conspire to avoid companies missions with how they kept being a car off the road. and england's beast, denmark, and extra time to make the girl of 2025. the jubilant fun take over the streets of london to celebrate that team reach an amazing tournament final for the 1st time in 55 years. ah, i'm going to have else has welcome to the program. japan has imposed a state of emergency on tokyo for the olympics. as corona virus case numbers increase. the organizers of the games are also expected to ban all spectators from
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the event. the game starts in just over 2 weeks a year late athletes and officials have already begun arriving, and the japanese capital organizes previous to stop overseas fans from attending now domestic spectators, to be told to stay at home to tokyo. corona virus case rate is the highest since mid may join me now from the japan as journalist, as only a blanket is only one. does this new state of emergency mean for these olympic games? will it be without spectators? that's very much what i'm expecting. yes. this has been in the discussion here in the public for a while now, and i think that will be very hard for them to kind of sail was in pics with spectators, especially to the domestic audience, so to speak. the super government recently suffered ford is defeated in local elections and i think they want to kind of show the people here in japan. ok,
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we're doing something for you. we're taking your concern seriously. because actually the majority of the japanese people would prefer the olympics without spectators. is it still it's? this is not about just international spectators. this is also about of japanese spectators. we're in the country. anyway, this would apply to both groups, wouldn't it? yes, i mean the, the, the foreign aspect it has been banned quite a while ago, and at the moment they were thinking up until now, okay, they would allow up to 10000 people or 50 percent of the capacity of the venues. but now it's more likely that it would be up to $5000.00 people. but i think we might be seeing that eventually there will be those. no local spec stays with this whole. like i said, most people would actually prefer this option. you. you mentioned these elections earlier holding these games in right in the middle of the pandemic has been
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extremely unpopular in japan. what damage might it now do? politically? well for the super government, this is really, depending on how the games go or they are kind of hoping if they go well, it would be good for the party and it would be good for us to the government and the upcoming election, which we are expecting autumn, but if it goes all the way, if there's a large rise in case which many people are fearing, then this could be very bad news for, for himself, but also for his party. and us been lots of discontent. recently. we've seen lots of cancellation talks related happening. listen, cancelled. there was only one last one today and people who were there with a few today. they were very kind of you know, on the one hand we're looking forward to the olympics. but on the other hand is very worried about the rise in cases. and yes, it's
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a very mixed situation. nobody's really looking forward to the olympics. so i'm like i said, expecting that they won't be allowing any spectators this all eventually john, the sunny laska in japan. thank you for joining us. to south africa, where the former president jacob zoom and has spent his 1st night in prison after ending a stand the stand off with police and giving himself up overnight. summa had threatened to evade capture, since he was sentenced last week for failing to appear before a corruption inquiry. he may be eligible for parole after serving around for months of his 15 months time. it's the 1st time forward president has been jailed in south africa, though zoom a previous the 1st time as a freedom fighter during the struggle against apartheid cutting it close to midnight deadline. this convoy of vehicles carried the former south african president,
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jacob xena on his way to hand himself over to authorities. the 79 year old is now in custody in his home province, beginning his 15 month sentence for contempt of court. on sunday is in a stress he wasn't afraid of jail time referencing his previous incarceration for his role in fighting south africa's races apartheid regime. remind them and i am not scared of doing boeing to jail for my beliefs. it will not be for the 1st time, i will be a prisoner of punches. the former president who was in office for 9 years has been at the center of corruption allegations surrounding his time in public life. the contempt of court charge came as a result of him refusing to appear at
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a corruption commission. he's called the process a political conspiracy but authorities have accused him of misappropriating funds and fraud. some of the charges date back 20 years. the on monday, the constitutional court is due to consider an application by xena for the cancellation of his prison sentence. he went to the w news still to come. that's journalist peter, the fries is fighting for his life in hospital after being shot. at date, the day time on amsterdam streets filled soft taco respondent, where the fax happens and virtually impossible that climate change scientists deliver, worrying findings or north america's records. the heat wave saying we may have crossed global warming tipping points to europe and union has handed an 875000000 euro find to german carmakers for colluding to prevent the roll out of
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clean emissions technology. the you anti trust body says dinah bmw w and the folks are group denied consumers the chance to buy less polluting cars a dime, lew escaping fine because it revealed the cartel to the european commission of him on this story, i'm not joined by the w. corresponded jack power in brussels. why was it so important to you to hold these german comic us to account? hi guy. well, this case is a by competition and their actions in competition. the european commissioner, who is this for competition, margaret vesta. so this is actually about the green deal about trying to make your, of the 1st climate neutral concept by continent, 520502050. that's the aim essentially. what these 5 come a kids are alleged to have done is to have sat down and had regular technical assess discussions to prevent special technology from reducing emissions in diesel
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cause. there is a thing called ad blue. it is a liquid that goes into a tank in a call and it is put into the emissions as the car is driving forward. and it reduces the nitrous oxide emissions into the atmosphere. what the car companies relates to have done is to have limited the, the size, and the usage of those tanks in such a way agreed to have done so that would meet the bare minimum you legal standard. so it meant from the european commission point of view that they were stifling innovation, but also what they were doing was preventing the greenest possible cause, getting in to the hands of consumers. so 875000000 euros. that's nearly a $1000000000.00. it sounds like a massive amount of money, but isn't it, is it, is it more than a parking ticket is for you and me for these companies? yeah, it sounds like a lot, a lot of money and it obviously is to a normal person. but for these car companies, it's not so much both i can group,
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which is one of the biggest risk is taking the lion's share of the fines is actually only paying just over half a 1000000000 euros. bearing in mind, their annual turnover is 223000000000 euros. so it is a little bit of money for them, but it's not significant. as i said, the reality is that the european commission reduced some of these fines dime go away for free because they blew the whistle on it. and both group actually go to 45 percent reduction on that because they cooperated. the commission today is saying that corporation is vital as we go forward because they want to make sure that companies that are accused or fine to have been doing these kind of caught how like practices that they will cooperate with the commission in the future. and that's something that was important. we could hear it from the commission during the press briefing today. exactly. but also apparently some aspects of this case that the, you decided not to investigate further. what can you tell us about that? that's right. this all started back in 2017. the commission ones runs the 5 call,
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make it to the manufacturing sites. did some inspections in 2018. they launched in in depth inspection, and it wasn't only to do with the diesel cause. at that point, it was also to do with petro cause and a particle emitter, a system called auto, withdrew withdraw pasco, emitting. in the end, the commission today said that there wasn't enough evidence to go down that road. it seems that they just focused on this diesel case and they launched this fine today. that will be some continuation investigations on this issue. get the pretty much it looks like the commission is feeling good. they had cooperation from the companies and they can try and move forward, especially with new announcements on exactly how to use. going to reach that 2050 climate neutral go expected in the coming weeks. w's correspondent jack park in brussels. thank you, jack. please in the netherlands, have arrested to suspect so his shooting of permanent investigative journalists, peter, the fries, the man i do in court on friday,
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the authorities are investigating links to the phrase reporting on a large criminal gun. european leaders say his shooting was also an attack on press freedom. peter de fries is known for exposing the dutch underworld, sometimes digging up evidence to help bring justice to victims and speaking out for survivors. now, the investigative journalist live in an amsterdam hospital fighting for his life by check. this surveillance footage shows de vries walking down a nearly empty street moments before he was attacked. a gunman shot him up to 5 times, including once in the head, people who had come to the scene of the crime, to lay flower, to think of his contribution to dutch society, and to pray for his recovery. to think of all the subjects in the past years and his opinion,
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he's his work contributed to society. you can think him away. so i just hope that everything's going to be fine with him. i hope that he will survive this. so because he's a very important person in holland and journalism, the fries had been recently involved in the trial of the alleged leader of a criminal organization, prosecutors called and boiled killing machine. a 64 year old had long been considered a possible target of the criminals. he reported on 2 suspects are in custody and connection with killing machine. the 64 year old had long been considered a possible target of the criminals. he reported on 2 suspects are in custody and connection with his shooting. they are scheduled to be in court on friday. a 3rd man was detained, but later released, police have not revealed a possible motive. a journalist, politicians, and citizens believe the attack is aimed at silencing reporters. we also think that
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journalists who might be targeted by organized crime must be protected. it's very important, and it is very important. does this murder attempt does not have a chilling effect on journalists working on criminal affairs? netherlands really sees violent crimes, but some say their parent targeting of the fries has shaken their sense of security . that is my son, that is and to them. and following this story, for us, a max, give us an update on the phrase condition. what are you hearing that? right, so what we know is that if he's in the hospital with a strong security measures in place, also due to that fact, there's very little information coming coming out. what we do know is that he sustained a very harsh injuries of a bullet to the head from, from i've witnessed reports from, from what we know. and according to a journalist,
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colleague of police, the, the chief of the, the television station. where that if he's prior to the, should he attended a, they type a talk show. he said that if he is still fighting to for his life. so what do we know about this, this criminal gang who is supposedly behind this attack? right. it's quite early to determine whether or not the criminal gang was involved in this assassination. and what we do know is the 2 men were arrested by police. they were travelling in a car outside the city. 60 kilometers from from amsterdam 35 year old posted isn't a 21 year old dutch citizen, and the police took them to custody. they subsequently searched for apartments. they came up with hard drives and ammunition as to their motives. we don't know yet what exactly what could have could have been their motives. peter disease is the leading crime journalist in that benevolence. he has been shining
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a light on the criminal underworld, past 4 decades. so he has a lot of enemies and also some people suspect maybe his, his, his connection to a criminal case against a drug could play a role here he was, or he is actually acting as a counselor for the key witness in a case against them, against a drug who is incarcerated here in the netherlands at the moment, but as the justice minister said, when he, when he spoke to press spoke to us yesterday here at the scene. it's too early to determine what exactly might have caused this, this attack. we have to wait for police work to be done and for investigators to come up with results and actually seeing people eng flowers behind you there. what's the reaction there in the netherlands about this attack? right, as you, as you will know, the netherlands and amsterdam in particular as you go to is one of the most liberal societies in the world. and jerome was being being shot at being, being a, having an experiencing assassination attempts in any democracy worldwide would probably shaken nation to
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a score. and so it doesn't kind of surprised that many people came here, as you can see behind me, came to pay their respects to pay the fees laid out flowers, to light candles, to, to, to leave a really hard warming and appointed messages. and wishing, wishing him, wishing him a speedy recovery and to be able to go back to what he's, what he's really good at very soon exposing in injustice and fighting. try me on my son, the in amsterdam the for a thank you max. a controversial new law has now come into effect in hungary, me. despite condemnation from the european union, the law bands for trails of homosexuality or gender change in school educational materials or tv shows for the on the under 18. critics say it's discriminates against l g b, g, q people. european commission has urged hungry to repeal the law, says you efforts to overturn it will be in vain insisting the measure is that to
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protect children is wanted european commission president le funded line, had to say about the new law. the just because i stared homosexual law with homosexuality and gender reassignment on par with pornography just because it, it uses the protection of the children to which we are all committed as an excuse to merely discriminate against people because of their sexual orientation. yet this law is disgraceful. that is shantay. she was on the line that so how's this new law being viewed and hungry itself? w 1st on it's funny that sean sent us this assessment from budapest. a huge rainbow hard here behind me has been set up 10 meter high. it's a symbol right here in front of the parliament for these controversial l g. b t law was passed me june and came into a fact to day. now you would thing that people who are hungry collectively refused
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to accept this law, but actually that this is not the case. the society is actually quite split over the floor. and it's not as easy to say that everyone supports the government supports the law. and people who oppose the government for the opposed to law. no. in fact, regardless of party affiliation, you will find people in the street saying that they actually agree with this law because they themselves do not understand what's transgender alive or homosexual life is about. so why should their children under 18, learn about this? well, people who actually support that the slow as being scratched and taken off the agenda, he altogether say it is very important to educate children before they turn 18. that life is very diverse and it's not just about being heterosexual, but there are different ways of experiencing and living sexuality. this action right behind me, this symbol, this heart is very unlikely to be the last symbol to prove past this law as hungary
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is gearing up for elections next year. w funny for that from budapest, climate research. as say, the world may have passed a critical global warming threshold, the heat waves sets records across north america, parts of canada reached nearly 50 degrees celsius and high temperatures have led to hundreds of death. europe 2 is experiencing one of its hottest summers on record living near an outdoor swimming pool during a heat wave is a fortunate thing. the temperature stored so high in alberta, canada that can't be melted. it's random event, it's very seldom un servatius. you don't see this over the last 100 or maybe 150 years since there's no kelly or climate. the evidence from from tree rings from other archives that will support the next few in the past. such, he may be
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a freak event, but what role does human activities on earth play in climate change? so the human activities with release of greenhouse gas, the feel to me thing, and so one are leading to increase of these greenhouse gas? yes sir. and they also prevent the heat from, from the earth is leaving the atmosphere so if collecting the heat and it leads to where to warm him. this warming was modeled by scientists in the us, canada, and europe for a world whether attribution report, researchers say, hitting nearly 50 degrees in western north america is virtually impossible without climate change caused by people. they estimate this global warming made the heat wave a $150.00 times. more likely. this is not a british columbia problem. it's not a candidate problem. it is a global challenge, and we all need to have citizens of the world coming together as we have quite
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frankly, to address a global pandemic. there is a lot of uncertainty in the data covering the frequency of heat waves as the phenomenon was so extreme. but something the scientific community does agree on is that climate change played a big role. sports is now england through to the final of european championship off the defeating denmark of wembley stadium in london. after game finished $11.00 in regulation, captain harry came school at the winner for england an extra time on sunday. they faced italy and the 1st major final since winning the world cup in 1900. 66. it's not for england funds at london to fougere square, it was a native tension and release the end of extra time, harold did their 1st final and 55 years. typically we can see only
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one destination where the creepy the. 6 board was pulling up why it's coming. all right. how do you canes, extra time winner was decisive and sparked a special moment for his proud coach. i think we deserved it. and yeah, for our country. i mean, i've not heard this new wembley like that ever. and to be able to share that with everybody and share it with everybody at home is very special. and copenhagen, the air finally went out of the danish funds balloon. after a hugely emotional campaign, their team had opened the scoring, but their mission to win the tournament for stricken teammate christian ericsson ultimately run out of steam, macklin, linda felt the whole nation has supported us. it's been emotional for the entire
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team. and it's amazing to be danish and to be part of this school. but right now we're all disappointed. we wanted to make that final become well. so this is a great, great disappointment though the nor so. so food need to order in store school, but the night belong to england, whose funds parties like it was 1966, to make sure you know 2020 come home rather than going to room england have to overcome in italy, team unbeaten in its last 33 matches, but you can be sure their funds are confident that they will do just the evening. fans their mark meadows is with me from d w. sports also an englishman. so as a disclaimer after back and it was a controversial winning goal though, right. what do you make of that? well, we'll come to what do we, what do we talk through the game? and then i'll say my point of view, but yeah, it was a bit soft. we can have
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a look at how the game actually pan down. now. it was tight goals in the final day mark to lead the 1st goal in the conceded in the, in the torment from dom god, great for the 1st free kick of the entitlement as well. bizarre then an equalizer for england, that was an own. go go. he's a top score in the tournament. we've 11 goals, it's been more ongoing this tournament the all the of the european championships put together at the penalty. there we go. terribly taken by hurricane said you put in the rebound, was it a sport cake? this is the big question mark. every denmark time will tell, you know what the referee gave it. the video assistant referees that, yes, it's penalty. as an englishman, i say it was very, very soft and for a semi final major tone, maybe too soft. but england fans will say the we lost 3 semi finals since $966.00. we deserve this bit of luck. and i think most neutral fans would say pay. okay. then. yeah, and if given that after putting an end to this,
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the semi final jinx england now face easily on the final home, advantages at wembley is going to be great atmosphere, of course kenning, the goal, the way. well, the fans that we've seen dancing on the self of bosses and stuff of the say they will do. and i know a lot of people outside of them don't like them and saying footballs coming home. they think he's arrogant. yes. okay. the, the game was codified in england originally, but i have to say it's not always said in an aggregate way. it's often meant sarcastically and humorously and ironically. but if you're in a final why don't bring it home. but yes, italy are tough test over the 33 games and they are probably ma'am, from a better team than england. but with $60000.00 fans behind you, it's probably well going to be so tight. this one might go to say no, she's, i think that's not united german, i keep my fingers crossed for this particular case, not made
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a d w sports there for us. thank you. you're watching the w news. he has a reminder of our top story. the japanese government has imposed a corona virus state of emergency on tokyo, just over 2 weeks before the olympics, that organize of games are now meeting and are still expected to announce that ban of all spectators attending the event. that's it from me and a new team. don't go away. focus in europe next and also find a lot more on our website. i've got respectful watch the news
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seems so far below its weight on the world stage. the b w. o. the against the corona virus pandemic. now is the rate of infection in developing what measures are being taken? what does the latest research say? information and context. ah, i recently dated special monday to friday on d. w. the in many countries, education is still
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a privilege. hardy is one of the main causes some young children working. my child, instead of going to class, can attend classes after they finish working millions of children all over the world can't go to school. the we ask why? because education makes the world more judge the make up your own mind. w. made for mines the russia continues while ation of international law and human rights when it couldn't really be much worse, their behavior couldn't draw a suspect. savage always can be worse. why was the e u so it will prepare to see one of the most complicated issues for european foreign policy. is there any point in pushing ahead with enlargement plan,
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the perspectives to get membership is also very important. when it comes to foreign policy, it's getting harder to work out what the use stands for. too many disagreements among members, too many grand intentions and find words to little to show for them. my guess this week is or must pipe nice, jared, the parliament foreign affairs committee and he joins me from stuff book. can he explain why such a powerful block of nation seems to punch so far below its weight? on the world stage? the news must pipe welcome to conflict zone. hello. let's start if we may, with russia, which presents a number of key foreign policy challenges to the
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e. u. since the seizure of crimea, the ear has imposed a huge variety of sanctions on moscow. can you think of any way in which those sanctions have to any degree changed moscow's behavior? well, if you look at the history of sanctions globally, then it's of course, always an issue. how much and how fast sanctions will have its influence. and what concerns russia then? yes, so we have seen that so far that has been no immediate direct influence because russia continues while ation of international law and human rights be in the ukraine. be in russia, in some other 3rd places. but there is also always question what these are, what should be an alternative, if one countries systematically and harshly violates international law and human rights. so that yeah, they, yeah. me that the impact. yeah. so for the time being the sanctions have been useless. and my question is really,
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what's the point of continuing to take measures that have no effect? is it to make people in the you feel better about it? well, part of politics always is also that the public opinion should approve the steps. but there is also an issue that if you, these days just stop sanctions without anything really has been changed in russian behavior, then it's also they show for your credibility. so that politically, it's also impossible, just skip sanctions without anything really has happened. yes, so not only did you not change rational behavior, you haven't managed really to mitigate the effects of it either. have you, for example, there was talk of reaching out to supporting civil society in russia. that avenue has also been closed off by the russians since they've come down on a lot of civil society. so that's not working either. is it well,
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here i can't disagree. i think that the russian cb and society, part of it, unfortunately abroad, has got a lot of political moral, but also financial support from european countries. plus also there is they show when we speak about sanctions, we don't know what could and would be a russian behavior without the direction of a west though for europe of the united states. because unfortunately, i will race it don't so well can be worse. so that in this regard, i also don't see real alternative to the european invest in action and behavior via russian violation of human rights and law when it couldn't really be much worse their behavior could is, i mean, they've invaded a sovereign state. they kill that political opponents on european territory. they hack into your election systems. what could actually be worse,
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but they're signaling if such a thing is possible that the sanctions don't matter a job to them. they're going ahead with the disruptive behavior. well, i will not elaborate here, and i guess that you understand very well that well, there are steps which always can be worse because i remember before 2014 they were also majority, i guess western politician who said that it will never happen that the russia will attack its neighbors. well, it happened 2014. so that to say today that it cannot be worse. well, unfortunately it can. you've been extremely critical of the use foreign policy chief years that barajo called his visit to moscow in february, a colossal failure. and the commission by contrast, expressed full support for it. who are we supposed to believe? was it a success or failure? well, this concrete visit was failure because the timing was very,
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very bad. and it was already foreseen that nothing good can not come out from this visit. so that in distance, i clearly understand they support that. also during difficult times that dialogue and conversation is important. but it's always that timing matters, and the timing for this particular visit, especially to moscow was, was very bad. and also the place for meetings was it was not the best one. i guess that if you start or you restart the contacts and dialogue, then your 1st, your choose more neutral places for this kind of visits and also well, you should choose appropriate timing in this regard. and of course, the messages that message should be no, mike, much clearer and stronger in this regard. and of course, based on the common approach from 2070, you'll member say, well, mr. morales said he went to challenge russia's behavior with regard to human rights
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. to see if they would engage on the issue. he came back saying they wouldn't. what more could he have done? he tried, he tried, he failed. it wasn't worth trying. well, i don't think that he had to go with with any expense. once again, i think that the timing for this particular visit was very bad. so that i guess that different timing, maybe also some different the message is good and should be well fed the role and keep maybe some better outcome although yeah, we all know that the rush at the moment has no interest at all to improve the relations with the western democracy, so that then disregard the bills to should understand that for real developments they should be on. so some change of thinking in, in russia and it is not happening at this very moment and it says,
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no change in thinking. and as you say, there isn't so, so what do you left with? there's one kid on the block who wants to play nice and that's you and the other one doesn't your left looking pretty weak by contrast and, you know, i, i don't think so. i also don't think that she's the only player in the world. i think that that the stage you have to clearly strengthen relations with united states, also with the united kingdom, with other democratic countries. and we want to get that. i mean, the western democracies have to keep much more adequate balance point globally, where on the one site at the moment, the western democracies and on the other site being able to retire. and that seems like china, russia, and some others. so that i guess that at this stage you also have to concentrate much more on strengthening real functioning relationship with us and other democracies. well,
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perhaps if you concentrate more on the strengthening relationships within the block itself. because the biggest drawback for the you is your chronic, this unity isn't that you've written about this yourself. this dream of a common foreign policy is rapidly drawing to an end. isn't it time to admit that certain steps which i would like to see 1st, the different foreign policy. i see foreign trade development corporation also defense policy. they should work much, much together. and secondly, i think that we also don't have to need any more consensus in each and every foreign policy decision, for example, issues related to human rights and sanctions based on human rights. i don't think that we need here consensus so that this is also tie him to increase the efficiency of european for him please. yes, but i mean, we've had a prime example of this unity just recently when france and germany proposed
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restarting summits with moscow, which had been suspended since 2014. and that led to howls of protest among other member states because no one else had been consulted. so not only do you have consultation if you have this unity issues, which are ensuring that the e u, the largest trading block in the well punches consistently below its weight on the international stage, doesn't it? well, that's why i say that we also have to, well, little be change the mechanism of decision making and also for insecurity issues. but what concerns french and german proposal stand? well, like, i think that every and each country can make proposals, but then they are a p. m counsel on 27, president easter place, but then they decide what the right to do and what's not that this very moment so that actually i don't blame german than, than french governments for making this proposal. because what we also have seen
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during this last years, when all the meetings between e o and, and russia have been suspended, we have seen that some member states have had and still having bilateral meetings. and then they don't represent eels common positions. so that in this regard to avoid the situation, i guess that don't so certain contacts and then also meetings between you and then brush any way are necessary. but here again, the timing is important. that agenda is important, and of course, also clear political well bases and political commitment from all member states and doing something that makes a difference. which we haven't seen so far doing something that actually changes russia's behavior. well, i guess this is anyway, very difficult. the difficult se target because if there is no
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political willingness in russia to change directly to the west than when we well, the human values, rule of law and so on. then anyway from abroad. it is also very difficult to influence. and we also should realize that will be called the retire in the regimes like russia and china making more and more cooperation because the same issues of human rights and international law. they don't bother them so that the hero. so we should not, in the sense, been a even play only ourselves, but here also there. well, the real political will or absence of, of this will also matters. while, i mean you read yourself, that's the strength of the you comes from unity. that this unity was on show during the recent fighting in the middle east between the palestinians and israel. when you failed even to issue a unanimous statement on the conflict because it was blocked by hungry, not even a. you can't even unify over a statement, never mind doing anything that makes
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a difference to the situation on the ground. that's pretty shameful, isn't it? that's why i say that i guess we have to shift from a consensus from every and d g. sure to some majority voting, to increase the level of fish efficiency over the us foreign policy. and well, we also should realize that the value is not a single country. it is $27.00 countries. and we all can imagine that it is not the easiest duty or, or aim to get always the same language from 27, nathan sensitive issues like middle east. yeah, mis. mister pied, you have plenty of people sitting around talking about policy. the conflict in the middle east isn't new. surely somebody should have been prepared to force the particular kinds of actions when the next bout of fighting broke out, but they didn't do that. my question is, why was the e u so ill prepared to do something in this instance in the middle east as it has
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been on previous instances, you don't seem to learn from any lessons well already. i guess the unfortunate fact that the conflict in middle east is not new already shows that it is very complex and complicated issue. and i would say that the actually the see one of the most complicated issues for european foreign policy, but also for foreign policy. many other countries in the world, and you can imagine that if there are 27 and you have split in opinions, not only between the governments but the same site, the member states, then it is very difficult really to reach consensus so that those that complexity and and all the sensitivity is what concerns middle east conflict? well, yes, all reflected also in your foreign policy making. so that i admit, this is one of the most difficult issues. and actually,
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i also don't foresee that the foreseeable future that will be overwhelming and large consensus about these issues. but it isn't enough for people in the you like you and senior officials to just say, oh, it's a difficult issue and ring your hands and wait for the next disaster strike in which you won't be able to play any kind of role. you'll just be left by the side of the road, watching the former jordanian foreign minister. my one washer says that you've become passive, accepting a status quo that it doesn't even want. that's true, isn't it? you don't want the current situation, but you haven't got any ideas fixing it. well, i guess that in some issues, so globally, also in immediate, the neighborhood of europe use foreign policy has been quite successful when we speak, for example, ups about supporting them across the movement. speed ga, be ukraine, be some other countries where i also if, if you look at the changes in the,
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