gosh, scientists, political scientists that have consider going forward with it in terms of research, but the real implementation of it. i don't see the politics the need us picking it up to the extent that it needs to. but if you look at the go, the south where you know, we've not trajectories right now still applauds they've not been, we've not to do the position in terms of standard living in terms of well being in terms of growth. where we can look at the growth, but you still have tried in giving carbon neutral targets. but when, if it be 2060 despite the fact that it was only less than 2 decades ago, that we had a chance at, at reaching the growth. but i mean having said that, i'd also, i also think that it's not capitalism or climate. and i think it's sort of, you know, working hand in hand because to be able to address the climate issues, we need money. and we have the fossil industries which has the money, so we cannot be working toward solutions by putting them down and, you know, be like, we need the, we need the oil under the ground. and believe it or yes we need, but we can't isolate them in our fight, and i think it has to be sort of, you know,

a play together and how to best find a solution to be able to see harness. if it's, if it's renewable energy, if it's alternate or the pricing, if it's carbon pricing, we need the other players on board as well. so we're hearing things nice. the dirty things need to be growth. the good things need to grow and that's, that's the mental issue here. i completely agree. what is capitalism could kick in in a good way. it's financial markets. now more, more leading to change because you don't want to have standard assets. you don't want to put you into a coal mine these days because you don't know within 20 years, it will be able to, to, to, to be run. but we're going to bad the cost to standardize it, to the government right now in the developing nations have the, the, the, the willingness and the financial sense to be able to bad the cost of standard acids when they have other developing national priorities come into play so i think that the fact that there's still a lot of places, a lot of dogs that are given by the leaders in the south is, is enough to say there is an intention, but they has to be attacked on. so they have to be a financial support coming, coming at the same time, to able to make those policies reality well in the battle to keep

a global warming below 2 degrees. we've touched on this already. we must slash global emissions of carbon dioxide by about 45 percent before 2030, quite soon. so that is all with the aim of reaching 0. net emissions by 2050. the big question is, how 10 years ago, shortly after the reactor accident in fukushima, japan, the german government decided to take all german nuclear power plants off the grid and switch primarily to renewable energy sources. german nuclear power will be down in 2022. but the dismantling process is a difficult one. the fuel rods need to be called for years to come, and some radioactive substances will have to be stored safely for thousands of years. at this point in time, there are only interim storage facilities. other countries are pushing for a revival of a controversial technology. after numerous accidents and old american nuclear power plants, the bite and administration plans to build smaller modern plants, france,

russia, and china, in particular, also wants to use nuclear power to satisfy part of their enormous energy needs. the advantage, unlike combustible substances, like coal, natural gas or oil, nuclear power plants are largely c, o 2 neutral, and therefore more climate friendly, at least from this particular point of view. do we need nuclear power to stop global warming? angeles. sorry today, but i think it's the closest low carbon option next to renewables in terms of providing access to everyone. and yes, there are a lot of reservations that is acosta associated with it. that it's high risk. but i think that there is a very less understanding of the technology, economic effects over or over the public perceptions or the lobby perceptions of the potential that renewable can actually have a larger share as a low carbon system. disagree. i disagree strongly disagree because the potentials of new energy are really large,

especially also for india. when all solar energy has large potential wind energy, biomass as well. so we don't need nuclear nuclear service to risky, extremely costly. one generation uses nuclear power, but forty's, health and generations have to take care of the weights, and that's not what we should put to the future generation. where should we be looking for the right mix for the right for the new technologies? well, 100 percent renewable energy world and several studies are showing this already. also in the u. s. a. europe can do it. i know the r p. r campaigns in favor of the small, medium reactors which is coming from a start up. who wants to create these reactors? it's a power point technology knowing since the fifty's it's not working, it's not economically, it's creating more risk. and also the military issues here and point, but the, the answer is renewable energy is the answer and the potential is always neglected

and ignore it is simply by the so p r campaign and india has so large potential. so what i would say is just a quick enough to build all these power plant anytime and we need to find a change for us. so you can put a saw so that everywhere in the remote areas in africa, sola can be as a solution, wouldn't energy the way the technology is quite easy so you can put them wherever, wherever we need them. and with the, with, with nuclear it's, it's the other way around. if it's not quick, it's expensive and you know, country has get managed to deal with the, with the, with the leftovers. just one question. i mean we, we need the perspective of the younger generation and i and i, and i was thinking about, i read about your son who complained you, he got annoyed with you because he said that you've, you come from a generation that has trouble the world. and enjoy doing so, and we now have completely different expectations about what i presume is his

generation. i think that this is where the question of, of justice kicks and it kicks in the generations in between the north and the global south. and there is a huge issue that we haven't yet, it's not the south that has to go forward. it's the nurse. and it's only ration the young generation because we need to do to let something over when we think that they need to have the possibility to inherit something from this word. and i think it's absolutely right. you know, optimistic. the guardian newspaper only recently had a big headline, sort of, we've had 6 decades of these war makes, but we have, we have hated to have felt the issue. now we feel it, we feel it in germany. we feed it and canada. we feel that everyone and i would say mankind able to, to quickly when, when the problem is that one strong argument, what i just said also in the beginning we add a tipping point because of the civil society. and as he has a different goals on the picture, i want to see right now the civil society has changed,

and this is what we see in the rulings of the federal courts also in germany and the netherlands, and the u. s. everywhere the civil society can and is pushing for change peoples because we all fear that there is the last future and we should change right now and i think that is a tipping point. now, i agree that i mean there is the, the gens agent, x and y, that is, that is sort of questioning why is that we have to push back our ones and desires to travel to, to consume a little more. but i think that at the same time, that is a lot of awareness in the generation on what, what we're going to be heading towards and is the select that we want for ourselves in the next 4050 years. i think a lot of information and understanding has sort of trickle down to schools into syllabus is into putting into the the, the matter that they need at school. so there is going to be a bit of pushback because you're essentially limiting the battery of how much can you really want and go out. but i think the 10 ration is a lot more aware before they take their choices. options you have

a lot of the younger generation or maybe the twenties and thirties, we who have accepted to make the change in terms of the transport that the you with in terms of the diet they have in terms of how much that they can do. and what kind of housing, where are they going to live? how much did the job in, in the year? and i mean, a lot of it has to do might speed. and so 5 been european experience to me. and in india there isn't enough to sort of complain because it's not like it's, it's beyond control that you know, every month someone's outside. so it's, i wouldn't say that there is so much of a pushback from the generation. i think there's a lot of acceptance. it's going to try to change that is a bit of sort of a sort of an annoyance that, you know, this comes to a 5 year 60, nothing's happened, but i'll be waiting for it to reach in a situation to act. but something is going to happen in this country in the next couple of months where we have to a general election, a very, a watershed election. i would suggest that the end of september, half a minute from each of you. what advice would you give to the incoming german

government, on the climate issue? to go forwards quickly because there's lots of markets for the german industry if we now switch into integrated economy. if we are able to provide green products and debate, we need to, we really need an honest debate about the chances, but also about the transformation. not only determined goals, that's good, but all confirm. but we need measures to go there and to there's some kind of dishonesty in the whole debate they can do better on the carbon pricing issue. i mean, guess it's still an unmet return. so me what exactly mean? i don't know. we go further when you said they can do better. i mean, i think the rated for unit that's being set right now is not the limit to which we actually need to be able to reach me after 1030 or to be able to meet the 2 to 3 mark. but 2015 by mid century elevators at the very point very well, i'm just saying whether caroline prizes increasing whatever 5 st also. and the

debate is over. so the price is really good measure. but in reality, the politicians cannot make it really happen. and that's the main problem, was it, i think we need is a whole mix of matters that absolutely agree. but the moment most important thing is that they start to put into place measures. and it's not just about paris and atlanta goes any longer. it's not time to think that the engineer is absolutely right and we have the things we have the measures, the technology, we can go forward and shoot shot. so we really need to talk electron complaint about the chance as we have maybe been maybe put up for today's galore. we have learned we've been talking about the, the climate catastrophe, how to avoid and all the catastrophe that has already arrived. in a good mood were hopeful for the future. and we'd like you to join us again to

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