not these for sports heroes, actually it was a weapon, the face, but now we just have to fight their mobilizing superpowers. i'm fired up and ready down doing walk down the walking go to tokyo, started july 19 d w. i did use a show on today's program, the unending fight against miss ogilvie in south a sure beginning and talk to the bank where no less the prime minister implies women are responsible for the sexual crimes against them. we often use iran, con, massage, and in the muslim women are offered up for sale online. it's a new law in what's become the norm, the targeting of educated, articulate women. the

news i'm british benji. welcome to the news asia. glad you could join us. blamed for the crime, viewed with suspicion and told 200 up many women were expedient sexual assault in pocket on say, this is what they face. but amidst this victim shaming the country's leader, prime minister in ron khan has gone on television and appeared to do the same. last month he told an interview up a goat. if a woman is wearing very few clothes, it will have an impact on the man unless they are robots on court. and i'm a pro, during a life chat broadcast and state television con urged women to wear a veil to avoid sexual assault, saying it is so that there is no temptation in society activists there. his comments reinforced common public perceptions that women

invite to that assault, and they say that attitude needs to change sooner and then roger is getting ready to go out. but choosing what to where in pakistan is a fraud decision. women can be judged harshly for how they dressed in the conservative country. she'd like to just put on what she wants and be done with it . i always say that there's nothing that makes me more happy than seeing women on in who they are and kind of, you know, breaking studio dives and putting a full stop day. because if one woman decides to do that, you know that changes the food of and digest ration generation of women who are still fighting for basic rights. just recently an interview with prime minister in ron con unlist fresh protests. he said that wearing a veil would stop men from being drawn into temptation, implying women were at fault for sexual violence. his remarks caused uproar amongst

rights activists. i think he has discriminated, and he booked all the blame a burden over a woman dress that was not fair. he should have addressed 2 men as well. so i think that was totally unfair. vit wilmont north park is spot. many women in pakistan have already experienced sexual violence including ma. when she was 6, her parents left her alone with a male friend of the family. she trusted him, but he abused that trust. whom wants to convince other women to speak openly about sexual violence? she says it's the only way to change prevailing attitudes that blame victims for sexual assaults, rather than perpetrators. when we are elected wise will make a difference. we don't need to be ashamed that just happened to us, didn't the burden of proof,

the shame lives of the one to do that. so this is something i think are making you different in august. but fundamental change may be elusive until those in power get behind their cars. and i'm on this, i'm joined by be nice. java from d w asia vinnish women's groups are outraged over in ron cons. recent comments is a non communist domestic hybrid h m m. hi, destiny, can you do disappoint bucket plenty room and he has repeatedly given statements. i did them and i got been undermined the gravity of sexual crimes against them. and they said that a point by night approach to a very complex problem and blaming them in clothing for him. yes, brian like real mediation too, or those who have suffered they also said that publicly saying that men cannot control them. i'm yes, their records,

these kind of statements give validation and encouragement to men that they can go in and even when they want, as long as they think that she's not probably i'm wondering if this approach to women's issues offers him any political advantage. yes, absolutely. so during its election campaign and also as a prime minister on his views on religion, on his id on best. and then he was on to 5 right individuals and going to be different country. and if you speak to him, support us government minister there said that he has brought thing anything that's incorrect to deflect the mindset of funding society. so we've seen that his supporters subscribed to a very drunken and traditional view of august. and i don't understand or are insensitive to the changing gender. what i think they don't understand that

focusing society is slowly but struggling to become more liberal and dynamic. vinnish. you have a grown up and budget on spent a lot of time over there. i wonder how this binding to the conservative elements of august and the society impacts daily life for a woman in pakistan. so yeah, i have growing up in pakistan and i, i was brought up very differently from the way my women from the giant. i talked to behave a certain torque that they need to protection that they are submissive, they have to behave a certain way. what certain way. and i think slowly and gradually these beliefs and these concepts are changing. lumina biting to have more dominant edition and finding to have big white. ringback voices genic nice. that kind of change still

seems on the trip to be too conservative in the sky. the gum hind wanted with the support of those conservative denise java. thanks so much for speaking to us today . thank you. nobody in the massage any has taken an ugly, unsettling tongue. recently, a little over a muslim women discovered they had been put up for sale on a newly created up by unknown people. the app called solely deeds. also the women up as deals of the day using photographs from their social media profiles. this is a screen shot shared on twitter i. one of the women targeted certainly is a sla directed against most of them. women in india. the apple is hosted on get hub and open source hosting platform and was ultimately taken down of numerous complaints. the one of those who was targeted and later also find the police complaint is commercial pilot. honda mostly in con, joins me now. how not welcome and thanks so much for joining us today. i'd like to

begin by asking you how you are doing since you became aware you had been targeted in this way. thank you so much for having me and how i'm doing, i'm okie. i have this, i keep repeating everywhere that i have this rage that is constant, this angle which is constant. so i've come back mentally, i am doing my work and i am doing other things, but i also underline, he already just doesn't go away. so i didn't that i'm doing ok. now, why do you think you and other muslim women were targeted in this way? well, so interestingly, you know, i am not a political ago and i don't grade politics. you know, there's nothing the right fight against. i don't see bad things about the book

online because it's the work that i made and i was still targeted. so that is, you don't think it's completely transparent why that happened. it's because it was a muslim woman who had a wife all the women who are dog data or educated women, the women who, you know, have a presence on social media when they talk people listen. so that is the reason that we were targeted in the 1st place because we were muslim women who are talking with who had a conversation going, who people listen to. we didn't fit into the narrative of this muslim woman that fit the narrative that they want. everyone to do, i do believe that we, i'm listening manero pressed and somehow, you know, don't have rights which is absolutely incorrect. you know, you're, you're trying to view and saying that this is incorrect, which is why i think all of us were targeted. do you know this something that's particularly far was for muslim women,

given the fact that women in general in india educate women particularly targets on social media? absolutely. it's like fighting it in on every front, you know, or women, as you said, there's this speech society that's, that's surrounded me. you have to fight so much and work so hard to do what we are doing to get where we are. you know, if i mindset spite people who are saying that we cannot do what we want to do, people telling us how to walk, what we're, how to eat, etc, etc. and you still make it. so you are already fighting with so many elements. and then along comes you have, you know, gangs, and be auctioning us online. so just is district. it feels as if, you know, you're just fighting so many different, you know, upfront. and that i think is absolutely unfair for any human being in the world.

and especially women in india, we are already fighting so many things in this. you add this to us also. so you, so we, we are strong, we are strong enough to retaliate, but do we need to be like this? do we need to be this way? do you think the targeting of more than women in particular has become more pronounced in recent years? and if so, why? see? absolutely, i think nick, you know, i like to talk about how in ancient times women were or until women are supposed to be the soft dog community. so community that has already been targeted on different levels. lynching is being become government days. all of that already. you know, so normally it's become normalized. now you come to that, you know, so the thing that we are the soft doug, and you've also filed a police complaint in this matter. how hopeful are you that the police will

actually act? so i have been treated very nicely by the police. i have, you know, i am not so like i did not get any negative lights. i was trying to gray nicely. they go out there calling me again. you know, all the time. they're asking me for an update. i'm asking them for updates, so they've been very decent. you know so far and i and daily police actually made and i fire without me. anyone else doing in a fire and yet, and the women's commission has we had spoken about it without, you know, it was an f i r. enjoy that happening and you know, so, so i am pretty hopeful that they might come, you know, or they might get to the bottom of this. i am pretty awful. how soon can we leave it there for the time being the thank you so much for joining us today. thank you so much. thank you. the f i r there refers to

a report that's made to police in there. that's it for today. of course, more on our website, dot com, forward slash fisher. and you can follow us for time facebook as well. we're back tomorrow at the same time. then, the the fight against the corona virus pandemic has the rate of infection in developing . what does the latest research information and contact the corona virus off the co, the 19th next on dw, can you hear me now? yes. yes, we can hear you. and how is germans house and i will bring you on going to a mac or you've never had before the prize?

just so what, what is who is medical really want me to talk to people who follows along the way, admirers and critics alike. and how is the world's most powerful woman shaking headache is showing us macro glass. ah ah, the german study has found more than 40 percent of people in think it was covered. don't even know the races even higher among elderly people and uncovered symptoms of the chronic form of the virus may also go identified that could include organ damage. testing could be more important than ever. welcome to the show one, been physical and so stop. let's talk to the author of that report to discuss the

consequences of not knowing you've got covered philip. this was the principal investigator in the back covered 900 study. how do you determine that over 40 percent of germans don't realize they have covered yes. good afternoon, actually, we have thrown a population based sample from the local registry offices, and we asked study participants whether they had a former proven infection at 2 time on 4 months apart from each other, we asked the participant, we to provide a p, c, r, test which we needed them, and importantly we measured the antibodies and these antibodies are able to indicate what you had a former infection independently, whether you were vaccinated or not. and you looked at over $10000.00 participants over half a year. is that something that you could mirror elsewhere in the world? well, i would take a note of caution there. the frequency of unknown infections depends very much on

the rate of testing. and in germany, we have across germany quite comparable regulations. so they are, i think we can translate these to other regions. however, with translating that to other countries, we have to account for the frequency of testing which has an impact on the number of unexpected infections. no matter the number though. what, what are the consequences of not knowing that you felt covert? well, actually showed that we learned that interestingly, in the li, especially, there are more unknown infections about 2 thirds of people, $6075.00, and plus. whereas in, there's 25 to 30, for example. it's only a 3rd what means in relative values a little bit. the incidence is, although of cause all the to be your cases and the person may not should not be

forgotten. and it will help us to recalculate the risk for persons and in certain conditions. not only the risk for people who actually have it, but what about the people around them as well? well, exactly. so what the problem is, the spreading m m can be very well assessed if you do the testing. and what we learn is that what we currently do is still not enough to recognize all infections . and if you want to have an early warning system and recognize new virus very and for example, then we need a good testing strategy to detect and unreasonable although these, these unknown infections. so philip is a time to get self tests out there to make sure that everyone is not only working out whether or not they're infectious, but whether or not they've had the coven buyers?

yes. so certainly i think currently it is a good idea to test better, especially in the time where we are driving back preventive measures. we are having major public events again like the the soccer championship right now. in these cases, we need to have these early warning system. and still also back to me, a people should get a tasking because they still can transmit an infection to not back to native individuals. and the other thing is regarding whether you had code with there, we learned that we still have to see what are the right anti bodies to measure. because the majority of people do not have all antibodies positive but a certain one. and we have to learn in which persons they have to measure which anti body before we can go for screening for long cobit and how many of these unknown cases could actually be long code of it. yeah, that's

a matter of debate. we're currently still investigating this in our study, and that takes a little bit time because the definition of long cobra means 6 months after the acute infection. and what we currently know is only for the known cases that at about 10 percent off thought to develop long covert and again, 10 percent of these 10, which is one of all known infections developers to be along with syndrome. and what we have to investigate and learn now, how many people off the a, some medic and infections can get the secret. and could there be a concern for younger people that they could have covered? they may not know, and they organs may be damaged, which, which may come out years later. indeed, that's what we fear. and that's what we learned about is there a molecule signature, something you can measure in the plot, which indicates that you are on the way of developing a long covert sooner and not having symptoms,

but that in the future you could develop a symptomatic disease which limits your life quality or also in the length of your life. but this is still a matter of research. everything we're doing there is still speculators. and we have to gather more data to be sure about how to tackle these, how to identify that. but what we have to fear is yes, that it is possible even in a symptomatic infections or mild infections, that few people are at risk of developing a long code. it could be covered 19 studies. philip, very happy on the said today. thank you. a long covert suffer as a cooling on health care providers, employers and politicians to take their predicament seriously. for many work is out of the question, day to day activities are also a major challenge. johan as either his main,

her oxygen device, evan, written with a i the 25 year old suffers from long covered, and was born with a heart the fact months after initial come at 19 infection. she needs oxygen therapy. even when only doing small shows like vacuum cleaning, without the device, she often has difficulties breathing. the bone with some of the most boring moment was one time when i was taking a shower to see me maybe even thinner. i started crying because i couldn't breathe anymore. i'm more or less fell out of the shower. i was trying to breeze it, but nothing was coming in. according to initial studies about 10 percent of covet, 19 patients have similar symptoms. johan, i used facebook to get in contact with some of them. they often suffer from constant extortion and lack of concentration. months after then initial infection.

in your hands case, the symptoms are so severe that the 25 year old expects never to be able to work as a tax assistant. again, some sort of mental, i suspect that will come down to a disability pension. but a full partial, i don't know yet. i would still like to watch right now and not able to and happy if i manage to get out of bed for 4 to 6 hours, depending on the day. but mostly i lie in bed and that a teacher position better and so they can tell her mission for you. and as i also suffers mentally from her own this, she took to psychologist every week. he has over the help several long covet patients. i've been with cooper when we now have a new group of chronically ill people in our society that will have an impact on all kinds of levels. it will be noticeable on the labor market. it's crucial that these people are not left behind in terms of their participation,

and also financially leave them under your hand as i hoped that her application for disability pension will soon be approved. and that she will be met with more understanding when it comes to long covet close to my biggest wishes by people start taking it seriously that they don't dismiss it and say she's just being silly . she just has to get out of bed and get a grip. and my 2nd wish is that politicians and re sanchez also take seriously. and that further research as supportive and corporate for you in a few weeks. and she should know whether she will receive a disability pension that would resolve one of many uncertainties that long covered has brought to her life. now you'll turn to ask the questions. here's our science guy, derek williams. ball do viruses a piece syndrome like over the last year and a half,

we've learned a lot about the chronic condition that affects up to 30 percent of people. in fact, it would cover 19 for weeks or months after they supposedly recovered. but there's a whole lot more that we still don't know about what's causing the wide range of long cove. it symptoms which often include crippling fatigue and what sufferers call a brain fog. although some common symptoms of long covert are pretty specific to an infection with stars covey to, for example, a loss of the sense of smell. researchers and doctors say there's also quite a bit of overlap with many chronic symptoms that can sometimes be triggered by other pathogens. among them. viruses that cause the flu, monona, nuclear osis, and herpes. many of the long term symptoms reported by long covert sufferers are

also common in people diagnosed with what's known as my allergic and several of my a light s or, or chronic fatigue syndrome. when its origins can be traced back to a viral infection. the condition is often called a post viral fatigue syndrome because its symptoms are so wide ranging and physiological reasons for those symptoms. so difficult to pin down. many people who suffer from post viral fatigue, say they've often been told by doctors that it's basically all in their heads, with millions of people worldwide now reporting long copious symptoms. the good news is that governments are beginning to throw quite a few resources at basic research in the field of post viral fatigue. and that basic research will very likely have positive knock on benefits for people who

suffer from similar conditions that have been linked to other pathogens. me, thanks for watching. stay safe and see you again say the the news, the news news

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