to make you understand or actually on your take when it comes to the climate. well, i understood the issue. i just didn't want to have a global treaty that didn't include china and india. otherwise is a waste of time. now i, she was, i remember when i came with schroeder was a chance to learn and they went to the boon in stock and sat down with all the leaders there. and the green party guy was, you know, this, giving me lecture on that. and i said, fine, why don't you support me on civilian nuclear power is clean and so renewable. i mean, it's the best thing you can do for the environment. after all, your neighbor in france just figure out a way to get rid of this waste and all of a sudden conversation were quiet. and you know, there is a lot of competing interest in a lot of different views. but no question. was very strong on the environment and i don't blame or the other thing she was strong on though at the same time the world seem to be focused on, on the environment when people are dying of age on the kinds of africa. and of

course, i was concerned about having a agreement that work on, on climate, but i was also deeply concerned about rich people standing by as people were needlessly dying. and as you may know, we put together a giant initiative during my administration and i was very supportive. and as a result, millions now live, i would have died and and anyway, it's shedding. priorities are important, but solving problems are very important to some people criticize her over her politics with china, saying that like the trade with, with this country is more important for her than human rights. i don't know, i am following that closely, but that's gonna be a dilemma for everybody. and in china's certainly a problem for the western world, because not only are they becoming an industrial competitor,

but they are pretty autocratic and you know, they gotta go, declared himself almost leader for life. and it's just a different set of pressures on the chinese leadership and you know, the, the world has to figure out how they're going to deal with human rights abuses. i hope when people study my presidency, they say george bush cared about human rights abuses. every time i go to china, i talk about religious freedom. and i did show in a way as not to embarrass a chinese leaders or anger them or create foment disorder. but i told them all the time i said look, it matter to my, my life and i think you'll find a society with religious people is going to be a society that's more compassionate. and they want her bank of america relationship with let me put it is somewhat special. sometimes it's really close. sometimes it's more confrontational. how do you see her relationship,

or how did you see it when you were in office? well, 1st of all, i fully understood the importance of russia to germany can become more important as germany relies upon russia, natural gas to power her big industrial economy, which i thought was a mistake. but you know, i didn't, i didn't view it as you know, it a demonstration of our relationship because she had to deal with a rep, glamour, boone. i mean after ivy it is very practical. i mean, food got big influence and he speaks german and and i want his wiley and it can be pretty tough and so can ongoing. so i wasn't worried about running overhang merkel. i and she, she in our own, and i'm sure she did. we're talking about food in talking about russia. we have to

talk about north room 2. are you disappointed that america kept promoting supporting this pipeline? yeah, i think it's a mistake and i told that to get her schroeder, i chose, you know, i think it's a mistake because, you know, the motivation of russia are, are, can be pretty confusing. and i think more that a nation that is not an open democracy, has an economic strangle hold on a democracy. it puts people in a very difficult strategic position. and so one of my, i just never understood why there's dismantling of the civilian maker power. my both chancellor schroeder and and algo, and it just didn't make any sense to me and, but that's the decision they made. and i guess the country's comfortable with it as a germany under michael who supported by the way. i'm sure all of us know that the

intervention in iraq and 2 or 3 did not support the bonding in libya or any further intervention in syria. what was that approach? a mistake in your eyes? now? i don't know. i, you know, i wasn't involved and i was very pleased when she was supportive of troops in afghanistan. i'm by the way, and one of the reasons why is because she saw the progress that could be made for young girls and women in afghanistan is unbelievable. that society changed from the brutality of the taliban and all of a sudden, sadly, i'm afraid i have gained women and girls are going to suffer. unspeakable harm. is a mistake? so withdrawn? i think it is. yeah, i think because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. and i'm sad and i spent a lot and i spent a lot of time with afghan women and, and they're scared. and i think about all the interpreters and people that help not

only us troops with nato troops, and they're just, it seems like there's, you can be left behind to be slaughtered by the very brutal people and it breaks my heart. and i'm sure uncle of him, doctor about it, but i suspect she feels the same way after all. she was a little girl who grew up in a pretty close society. and now i remember going to her hometown and talking to her about her childhood and it was a is just so amazing to me to be talking to a young, a woman who as a young girl was trapped in a closed society. and in here she becomes the chancellor of a democratic free country. people say, germany is approach to military invention is not really honest. it's like a little bit on the one hand. and on the other hand, let's get the americans do the dirty work and we drove and stay out of it. what's

your take on that? yeah, you know, it's interesting. i mean there was a universal outcry in germany. it seemed like to me, even amongst conservative legislators about some of my decisions after 911. and it was really a reaction that seemed to me to any military involvement because a previous war. and i came to understand that there's a, it was a psyche and every country and, and i understood the psyche in it because it didn't mean we couldn't be close friends. and so it didn't bother me that germany sent police trainers. we sent shooters, they sent police trainers, but it was a reflection of how the german people felt at the time. and that's how democracy works. should america have known better in that regard, that she comes from the place where she comes from so that sometimes military

action is needed? no, i don't know. you know, that's just everybody has to examine their unconscious. but again, people who are elected in democracy tend to reflect the, the culture or the attitudes, the history, their tradition of the country. and i just said that both she and her schroeder reflected that and so you see the key thing is the termination of alliance verses difference of opinion. and i always kept in mind the importance of us, german relations for our own country, for my own country's sake and. and therefore when there were disagreements, i refused to let that disagreement or personal slice, if there were any interrupt the, the, the larger goal. and the best thing for the united states is to be close to germany . and i think it's the best thing for germany to be close. the united states

certainly hope so. also, donald trump entered off is america was called the leader of the free world. what do you make of that? and is there such thing as a leader of the free world? i think i think there are influencers people have got influence to rally nations who share basic values. free press, free religion, the right to protest. and a country like the united states and germany has got a little extra ups and those relationships and those collectives of nations that share the same values because of the size of our economies and the size of our populations. did you navigate well? i think so. i mean, i think so to the point where, i mean there was a lot on her agenda and she got reelected

a lot which i think speaks volumes about her successes. and but you know what's interesting and how history works. both she and i need to worry about short term history because we're not going to know where we stand until long after we're dead. if you would read the history books, what would be your paragraph about america on merkel brought clash and dignity to a very important position and made very hard decisions and did so though with what's best for germany. and if so, based upon principal and the principal one but focused on her, the principal was larger principles that are important in life. and i think it was a compassionate leader, a woman who is not afraid to lead. there is one image, the world remembers of you and i'm going to america that's,

that's at the g a meeting in st. petersburg when you were massaging her shoulder and i walk by and gamer. yeah. i wouldn't call it an extended massage. i'd call it a. yeah, i mean, she was here, it's kind of a spontaneous reflection of friendship. and i'm sure people didn't know what to make of it. i didn't mind that was kind of i thought it was a wow. and it can, i don't know. yeah, i mean one of those things that just happened. it certainly was scripted. did you ever talk with her about it? no, no, but if i need to underline shari, i did that. but in the public spotlight, but on the other hand, is a reflection of my, my friendship with you. thank you so very much and is happy to do it. on

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petrol and medicine. supplies are feared to be running low, and the authorities are struggling to keep the upper hand. and the former us president to launch america has longest war says ending the war and the canister. and now is a mistake. i'm afraid that women and girls are going to suffer unspeakable talk. this is a mistake that was going, i think it is. yeah, i think because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. and an exclusive interview with d. w, the former president george w bush, nato's african allies, are being left behind to be offered. ah . hello and clare richardson, a very warm welcome to the show. the european union has laid out its most ambitious plan, yet to fight climate change in an effort to drive the economy toward

a carbon neutral future. the proposals call for cutting greenhouse gas emission, 55 percent by the end of the decade, phasing out the sale of petrol and diesel cars by 2035. and they also call for a tax targeting imported products with high carbon footprints that you hope the plan will be an example for the world's biggest economies to follow quite as good as the moon landing in 1969, a historic gain, and an event that europe's leaders have compared to another historic challenge, the fight against climate change. we do not have all the answers yet. today's the start of a journey. but this is your man on the moon moment. the you aims to make europe the 1st climate neutral continent by 2050. that means no more carbons should be admitted into the atmosphere than what's absorbed. for

example, by forests. as a 1st step on this journey, you leaders have pledged to cut emissions by 55 percent by 2030. but critics say these cuts are nowhere near enough to meet the goals of the 2015 parents agreement. others hear less wealthy you countries and many of its poor citizens won't be able to afford the measures you though, has promised to help lower income households and fight climate change by introducing a package of new laws. and as we heard environmentalists, they, the cuts aren't nearly enough to meet the goals of the 2015 paris agreement. earlier we spoke to tim gore at the institute for european environmental policy in brussels to get his thoughts on the matter. the 1st thing to say is that of course we need always more action, but this is the e u. not only putting on the table and new strength and climate reduction. so i'll

get by 203055 percent reductions below $990.00 levels, but critically also setting out a comprehensive plan to actually achieve it. so that's a world. and what this package is really built on is the polluter pays principal. it's going to extend carbon pricing to around 2 thirds of emissions in the e u. and that's a good thing, as long as we make sure that the revenues it generates, and it's going to generate about a 100000000 years a year by the end of the decade. as long as we spend those revenues, well, we can both cut the emissions and reducing the quality in europe at the same time. now we know climate change makes extreme weather more common and intense. here in germany, heavy rains and parts of the country have unleashed some of the worst flooding in decades. so far the storms have been blamed for at least one death with more severe weather forecast for the coming days. it's a fight against the floods. the deluge took many residence in western germany by

surprise. while there was no water around $130.00, but within half an hour it was like a big stream. completely flooded up is all i'm all at once the water started flowing in, it came from over there and flowed in here. and then no time it was up to my chest . different parts of germany were hit by the bad weather in the western city of detailed off an entire housing estate. with 350 apartments had to be evacuated in the town of altenor, a firefighter was swept away by the water and drowned in huge that close to the check border. a 53 year old was caught in a flash flood. rescue workers are still searching for him. the heavy rainfall was caused by warm and cooler air mixing. such extreme weather can occur in summer, but it only happens rarely does happen to be the last time we saw this happen was

in 2005 or before that in 1999 when some rivers flooded due to the sheer amount of rainfall that is indeed exceptional for that is also good hug in western germany was particularly hard. it was impossible to drive along some streets even for the rescuers. but when the number through this prompted us to request help from the army to get the situation here and hardened under control. and luckily, it turned out very well for either of those they would get kept people all across germany or hoping for the rain to relent. soon and turn our attention now to some of the other stories making headlines at this our investigations continue into the killing last week of president jovan more years after the arrest of one of the alleged quarters. 5 suspects still remain at large. authorities are searching for a former haitian senator, a fired a government official,

and he convicted cocaine smuggler. united arab emirates has opened an embassy and israel located in television, new stock exchange building and marks the latest step toward the normalization of relations. following a u. s. broker reconciliation deal last year. palestinians were outraged by the u. 8. use decisions with stablish ties with israel before there is a lasting peace between israel and indian. on the 5th anniversary of a bastille day attack in a nice france, the country has paid for you to the victim. 86 people died when a truck flowed into a large crowd. speaking to survivors and families, the prime minister appealed for unity and said france would never surrender to have so awesome. brazil president invaluable scenario has been hospitalized and might need emergency surgery. the far right leader is suffering from persistent hit, a possible symptom of intestinal blockage. nora was stabbed in the stomach in 2018

and have to undergo several rounds of abdominal surgery. us pop star britney spears new lawyer has called on her father, so immediately resign as the conservator of her estates. this court in los angeles allows fears to hire her own lawyer in her bid to arrest back control of her private and business affairs. and fears over food and fuel shortages are growing in south africa after a week of looting and unrest. hospitals are now running out of oxygen medicine and food as rioting disrupt supply chains. more than 70 people have been killed in some of the worst violence scenes since the end of apartheid. a building is on fire, a baby is thrown down thankfully caused by a small crowd that gathered below. others managed to make their escape to the ground floor shops were looted and set ablaze.

durban is one of the cities in south africa, being rocked by unrest and businesses are paying a high price in some places, south africans are now forced to queue for essentials. well, i think we just a bit concerned about fuel and water at this stage. but no, otherwise we can, we get to go. hopefully the future was stopped running in from next week. some suspected looters have been arrested. but in this small, in a town outside johannesburg, it looks like a free for all the what, thank you to see what you've pulled up. what's going on. and you know, it's all to the other people out there that was happening in baby turn outside for toria. police fire on looters and the military

has been sent in to so wet to try to restore law and order. the protest began last week after former president, jacob duma began serving a 15 month jail term for contempt of court. but frustration over inequality and rising unemployment are also fueling the chaos. i guess, i guess the real reason is because we have nothing and when you see other people stealing at some point, you realize that shops will close and you'll be left with nothing. so you ask yourself, after all of this, how will i survive with the way things are? for now, there is no sign of the unrest letting up. and the taliban are pressing ahead with their surgeon. afghanistan, as troops complete their withdrawal from the united states longest war. 20 years ago us president george

w bush launched the us invasion of afghanistan following the september 11th attacks . now he has given an exclusive interview to d. w. news saying he believes president biden decision to leave afghanistan now is a mistake. the former president also spoke of his relationship with the german chancellor, uncle and merkle, praising her for her support of the military mission in afghanistan. i was very pleased. she was supportive of troops in afghanistan and by the way, and one of the reasons why is because she saw the progress that could be made for young girls and women in afghan. the stand is unbelievable. that society changed from the brutality of the taliban. and all of a sudden, sadly, i'm afraid i have gained women and girls are going to suffer. unspeakable harm is a mistake. so withdrawal, i think it is. yeah, i think because i think the consequences are going to be unbelievably bad. and i'm sad and i spent a lot and i spent a lot of time with afghan women and,

and they're scared. and i think about all the interpreters and people that help not only us troops or nato troops. and they're just, it seems like there's, you can be left behind to be slaughtered by the very brutal people and it breaks my heart. now, finding an exit strategy for afghanistan has been an intractable problem at that subsequent administrations were unable to solve. the costs of human and financial have been staggering. the lives of some 40000 atkins civilians and a 2500 us soldiers for us taxpayers. the bill comes to about a trillion dollars to find out more about the legacy of the nato mission in afghanistan. we spoke with a journalist alley le tv in couple to get his reaction to those comments by president bush, i think is very interesting that he's suddenly, you know, concerned about women and children because you know, his war made

a lot of widows and made a lot of children orphaned, you know, there was a lot of, you know, there were, there was, it was from dish and there was going on him all there was imprisonment, there is night, raise their stroke strike. there's airstrike. there's all kinds of things that if he's concerned about civilians, he should have thought about during his own administration. as for the legacy, i mean, the fact that we're having these questions is the legacy, right? the fact that the taller bond is still able to pose a threat to, to, to the government, enter the security forces. the fact that we're still having these battles and the fact that we're still asking what might happen to women, to children, to interpreters, you know, 20 years down the line. that is the, is a legacy. it's, you know, what really was achieved for. so asking these questions 20 years later, you can watch the full interview with george w bush as t w dot com and on our youtube channel. let's turn to sports news now and italy's euro 2020 hero john luigi donna roma is on the move from ac milan to p. s g on

a free transfer. the goalkeeper signed the deal in paris just days after being named player of the tournament at the european championships where his crucial save help italy beat to england in the penalties shoot out a decided the tournament. the 22 year old leaves milan 6 years after making his debut at the tender age of 16 and barcelona, i have agreed terms of a new deal that we'll see. leona messy stay with the cadillac club. finished newspapers are reporting the origin time has signed a new a 5 year contract that would cut his wages in half. its previous deal was worth 10000000 euros a week. the new deal will take him to the age of 39, but relies on the clubs selling another player to remain under the good news salary cap system. and before we go, here's a reminder of the top story. at this, our european commission has unveiled legislation aimed at reducing carbon emissions

55 percent by 2030. if the legislation is passed, it will give a major boost to renewable energy production for critic say of places a heavy financial burden of citizens, especially in for you need update at this our states you for our documentary series and doc films coming up next enforce. there's always more on our website, w dot com, and instagram and twitter, w. richardson in berlin, in the teams. thanks for watching. the the fight against the corona virus pandemic. how has the rate of infection in developing? what does the latest research information and contact the corona virus, not because the 19 special next on d w and then many put out in the world right now the

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