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the ah ah, this is the w. news lie from severe storms falls across parts of germany. at least 30 people have died. dozens are missing, and holmes has collapsed. heavy flooding lives, part of the country on the was also coming up to south africa. count the cost of a week of lawless people are returning to business trips and it's troy by looting the government versus spending thousands more soldiers onto the streets and tell lance grouped to stand out. pocket down. prime minister accuses women of provoking
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sexual assault against themselves. and women have had enough a victim shaming and say it's time to speak up catch up with a german way for either determined to make history or tokyo. 2020 by winning the 1st and then pick gold metal inside. ah, i'm got up as welcome to the program. severe storms across germany have unleashed the west flooding in 15 years. at least 30 people have died including 2 firefighters who drowned a further 70 people are missing. hundreds of thousands of homes without power and several buildings have collapsed. many rail services have also been suspended. germany's western states have been the worst effected
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homes and lives swept away some residents who stayed trapped on rooftop, while others left picking through the devastated homes. emergency workers, the searching for dozens of missing residents, but blocked roads and high water levels. a hampering asset and more rain is expected in some areas. the deluge took many people in western germany by surprise. me. okay, well there was no water around $130.00, but within half now it was like an extreme, completely flooded. i'm all at once the water started flowing in. it came from over there, it flowed in here and within no time it was up to my chest. the regions of north ryan westphalia, rhineland palatinate, and saw land have been west effected
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a damn near the city of upa. tall has overflowed and authorities say could break. the heavy downfall was caused by warm and cool and mixing. such extreme weather can occur in summer. but it only happens railey does not talk of the last time we saw this happened was in 2005 or before that in 1999. when some rivers properly flooded due to the sheer amount of rainfall that is indeed exceptional climate change is expected to make extreme weather events like this one more common and more severe report. ok, martha is in the vote part time, that's near bon and one of the hardest hit areas there and we can see the devastation there behind you. okay. what's the situation like where you? well, as you said, i'm involved part time it's usually and it's very beautiful. wine regional germany
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with vineyards everywhere for today. this absolute tragedy has hit the, the small village here hymi the. a clean up operation is ongoing, people are cleaning out of that house is really think mod, which has completely covered the town during the night of their rescue teams here there are police and just recently moving in have been goes to try and clear some of this destruction away and as you can see you behind me with these big piles of debris, there's also been cause that has been swept off as well. and that absolute, everyone is feeling really high at the whole situation. and the rescue operation is clean is coming on here tonight today. ok, you've, you have spoken to people on the ground that people like the man with seeing behind
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you there. what did you hear from the residence there? for it was actually quite difficult to get people to speak. everyone was understandably very exhausted from the situation is completely unexpected, such as mobility and usually very peaceful. as you can hear, perhaps the retro ration is people scraping. i spoke to one man. he was a young man in his mid twenties and he says that he had to spend the night on his roof and he would love to help more questions from me. but he was just too tired to i went to another woman and she was an absolute p. o. she managed to just save a few of her belongings from her house to wrap them up and i was carrying them in a bed sheet and she was waiting for her mom collect from from the advice if you're on the people that absolutely exhausted that all still in shock,
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they've seen that complete hormones and livelihoods just be completely covered up with much and in the face of just one night of heavy rainfall. okay, what can you tell us about the rescue efforts that we will for with our rescue efforts ongoing still have being the police here has been a rescue workers as well. that was also a helicopter here this morning. so they would go around trying to find if there are any people stuck on rooftop. so the rescue operation is ongoing and people are still quite frustrated. i think they want to be happening. but as i said, the rescue operation is ongoing at the moment, but people will have a lot to contend with here to w report. okay. monitor the for us reporting from my pulse on thank you very much. that's i have a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world germantown,
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san glen macklin in washington, where she will meet with us president joe biden. the 2 leaders scene here and file for this. i expected to discuss the pandemic climate change and global security. it's likely to be one of the last foreign slips before she steps down. chance love is full. turkey is commemorating the 5th anniversary of the failed military coup. events are being held across the country, including in the capital ankara, some $250.00 people died at thousands were injured. when a military faction tried to out the president, sweeping political crackdown and mouth arrest for use top call. it has rule that employers can enforce a ban on religious symbols in the workplace, but they say this step must be justified and applied to all religions equally. because centered around to muslim women in germany who was suspended from their jobs for wearing had schools south africa,
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the government is deploying an extra 25000 soldiers to help curb on rest of the scene. days of looting. and several of the countries, provinces, reports indicate the violence and unrest has begun to subside it, allowing south africans to begin cleaning up more than 70 people have died in the violence supply chain for food and fuel will have been disruptive, leading to shortages and some of the country and i'm not joined by journalists for us the play and john is booked for us to have been reports of food and fuel shows just because of the unrest. but can you tell us? well absolutely, we found to see just the beginning of the food and fuel shortages as many have said, it is pretty much too much. it will be much worse in the coming weeks as we've actually gone out of fuel and food because of this unrest. food supply room, have you blocked from all major 467 with the unrest started and he's at work. right now we already get fuel to that all major petrol station. i've heard of it already
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run out of fuel that already is a concern. and of course the food is a huge concern. the report that farmers are starting to get a good to the market because of the logistic crisis. and that is going to cause a huge issue in the coming weeks. some people don't have food. as hearing $25000.00 more soldiers ought to be deployed to the unrest. will that work? is that enough? it might work would what would really work even better than that in my view is get into the justice. i mean, there's obviously multiple causes that the sheer desperation of people who are on the margins of society. they simpson, but anger. but they've clearly a coordinated aspect of this came from a group of people have the longest jacobs duma who have great understanding of our country and the report emerging alleging that people that were formally and intelligent people aligned to them. i want to import them more plan strategic
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attacks on key infrastructure. so i think deploying the army to deal with civilians . it's fine. it's just done. can't see it. no, it lives a loss where we have to get to the root of what is causing this. it's not just on paying your post the elements to it. so what are people then saying about presidents or poses handling off the unrest? a lot of people are quite unhappy with the point of handling. on one hand, it seems that not enough is being done enough fast enough. this was all brick and very publicly the said, we're going to make the country ungovernable and motion done and we haven't done immediately. stop that from happening and mobilizing, choose to, to long increasing the truth from 2 15250022 long. you think keep the stuff to damage. the patricia is so fast moving and so crazy that this new report coming in all the time. i mean a major refineries have said and i look a railway approach to shock. endure shot because of the situation. and it feels
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that too little is being done too late by sort of poses administration rationally, filler their job for us. thank you. to pakistan now where women who experience sexual assault are often accused of provoking the attackers. even the countries prime minister and run con has joined in the practice regarded as victim shaming. last month, he told an interviewer, if a woman is wearing very few clothes, it will have an impact on the man unless they are robots. and april on state television con urged women to wear a veil to avoid sexual assault, saying it is so that there is no temptation in society. activists say his comments reinforce common public perceptions that women invite their assaults and they say that attitudes needs to change. my i'm in raja,
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he's getting ready to go out. that usually means putting on some makeup and then only stress. no big deal. you might think. but wearing an outfit like that is still a pretty bold step in pakistan. but more and more women are following suit. i'll just say that there's nothing that makes me more happy than seeing women owning who they are. and kind of, you know, breaking student dates and putting a full stop there. because if one woman decides to do that, you know, that changes the food of indigestion, a generation of women who are still fighting for basic rights. just recently an interview with president iran con, unleashed fresh protests. he said that wearing a veil would stop men being drawn into temptation, implying women were at fault for sexual violence. his remarks caught up amongst rights activists here. i think he has discriminated, and he put all the blame a burden over woman dress,
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not fair. he should have addressed to men as well. so i think that was totally unfair with woman enough pakistan many women in pakistan have already experience sexual violence including ma am in raja when she was just 6 years old. her parents left her alone with a male friend of the family. she trusted him, but he abused that trust, one of the cuties and i strongly feel about those. then what made me feel unsafe, and i've mentioned it earlier as well. is that most of these experiences come at an age where that should a really just by those not even for is on who am in raja wants to convince the women to speak openly about sexual violence. she says it's the only way to bring about change. she believes that her generation can achieve a lot. she is calling for the same rights for everyone. when we are collect,
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a voice will make a difference. we don't need to be ashamed that did happen to us, didn't the burden of proof. the shame lives of the one to do that. so this is something i think us are making it different in august. but unfortunately, pakistan's women still have a long way to go. while let's take a bit deeper into this story with read all the heat in. she's a regional campaign for amnesty international south asia and joins us from la whore and pakistan. account comments might have caused a wave of protests, mainly from campaign as an activist within the long run. is that going to change the situation for women in general in san i thank you so much for having me, sir. a question. as far as pro just a concern, there are an important indicator, an important they demonstrate just how badly women are frustrated with comments. that's the ones that were made by the prime minister. but the fact is that until, you know, reformed it's nice. that also centralize is an approach that is,
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you know, that goes beyond just the criminal and understand the kind of gender qualities that persist, which lead to gender based on sexual violence until that happens. we're not going to see this kind of change that we need to not going to bring that kind of decrease in the numbers that are being reported on the daily. so every day we have 11 women are being raped in pakistan are enough of the perpetrators actually a being caught and sentenced the short answer to your question is no. and the number that you said, 11 women being raped every day. i think the real number let be much, much higher because the women that are coming forward and very often because the criminal justice system is essentially rigged against them. there's not enough gender sensitivity training, therefore, and if you have indicators like the prime minister statement, the message that they're receiving is that it's there. and if it's therefore,
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why would they be motivated to come forward, especially with convictions remain dismally low. so i think it just goes to say that the rock in about this entire that it failed every at every step to protect them. but even the prime minister says things like that. that seems to be a sentiment that that's widely held in pockets thought. what can be done to fight against the sentiment and to improve the situation for women in pakistan? so as you're absolutely right and pointing that out, but what is interesting is that in and not just restricted to pakistan globally, there seems to be a ration up of the kind of criminal punishment that needs to be used to address this problem. when the fact is, that's not where the solution lies. there is a significant gap in the kind of justice that is able, that is available to women and deny that is not assess accessible. it's not affordable, it's not even acceptable half the time. so until that is rectified,
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but we're not going to see that change, that group culture needs to be dismantled at the very root. and if from the top, the kind of messages that they're receiving is this reinforces that kind of starts them. that's not a very helpful starting point. thank you very much. room a heat and with amnesty international. thank you. the united nations have given a major war to a police chief in the jaffa work and keeping women's safe call me say, how son, how's it was daisy 0 era has been named the 2021 us population award laureate. the recognition on us individuals for improving people's lives through w caught up with sarah in the jet their most powerful female police officer in asia. she's in charge of called guns of police offices. kidding, the national police division to protect miners and women each morning. she
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views reports of violence against women and children from across the country. why does it say that again? she guys, hi deputies to she out the work fighting domestic violence under where we shouldn't be leaving legs is no woman, no child should accept the injustice and violence isn't just i've made domestic violence. my person will because it's not normal. normal, not all the women was men beat and terrorize them, feel safe enough to make a complaint to the police. but those who come to commission as well as do or find a sympathetic welcome from and the women of wife a mother and a sister. i mean the rights position to understand the situation of women. i'm in
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a good position to understand issues facing children because of my experiences. she visits women at the safe house for domestic abuse survivors in the may. she paid a part in getting men of these women away from the men who were abusing their model without this commission, as well as team, sometimes hard to intervene, right? of discard of someone's life. sometimes they end up bringing children into dis, orphanage problems. i visited past all kids and they find themselves in traumatizing situation that can i think they're all life. so it's important that i make time for them. play with them. i think full commission as we keep the survivors she meets in mind. when looking at the big picture,
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she's often involved in training next generation of or you sophie says when she's out of uniform, the children commissioners will take care of all. she's the generation of tommy, to the police officer, even with her keys and education. there will still be what to do if one of her children decides before and how footsteps and also the latest on the corona virus pandemic around the world. haiti has received its very 1st doses. of course $900.00 vaccines donated by the us government. 500000 doses arrived and part of the house on wednesday. 80 was the only country in the americas without a single shot. washington provided the vaccination through the world health organization program for equal vaccine access. the u. n. says more than 20000000 children missed essential vaccinations in 2020 due to the pandemic. that's the highest
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number more than a decade. it could lead to outbreaks of measles, polio, and other preventable diseases. the u. n. s. won't the situation could develop into a quote, perfect storm. thousands of rallied in france to protest the country's new corona virus measures. belief in paris, fire tear gas to disperse crowds who oppose the decision to make vaccination for health care workers. mandatory proof of vaccination or a negative cova test will also be required for many indoor public spaces. argentina is expected to register. it's 100000 corona virus. related death today, the country has been one of the hardest hit in the region. and although infection rates are falling, health experts are worried that a slow vaccine rollout could invite another outbreak. just 11 percent of the population there is fully vaccinated as compared to germany. for example,
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with 44 percent fully vaccinated. officials say many people haven't even registered for vaccination now, the government is sending mobile teams to take the pro vaccine message to the people when the iris has a problem, one in 5 adults has still not registered to be vaccinated. so daniel quinn, tutti and his team are going door to door to find out why, what is going on? what are the reasons for not registering? one of the reasons could be the lack of accessibility of the technology. then we register the person ourselves with all over at the moment though. what's another important reason we found in the last rounds is the fear of the vaccine on our corner. daniel is keen to come back miss information and put the record straight about the vaccine side effects. and he is using some other methods to help convince people. on the 24 group,
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i have friends who have been vaccinated and have been sick for a week. i can't afford to risk being sick for a week. firstly, i'm alone. and then if i don't work, i don't eat no more. so if you don't get enough to eat, because you don't have a job, we can take care of it. a bag of food are you interested or this man is happy to take help and daniel asked for his details. it's a good result. the direct contact has paid off because despite the patients concerns, daniel is able to register him for the sean one small victory in argentina's fight against corona on the scene of the we we have some breaking news coming in. duff's crime report, peter de fries has died after being short last week. the celebrity journalist was gone down the street after appearing on live tv. and i'm saddam will bring you more
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details as they come in some sports news now. the olympic start next weekend searching as a molar handful of sports, making a w t o q 2020 games sally and glad that we'll be representing germany. and the 24 year old is hoping to capture the 1st ever olympic gold metal. in this event, a sport born in hawaii more than 100 years ago, is ready for its olympic view. the father of modern surfing and 5 time limping swimming medalist duke cannon mchugh dreamed it would become an lympics port one day in tokyo. that dream will come true. and another hawaiian bull and is preparing to show the world the germans consent to hi my name is leon. glad. i'm 24 years old. i'm a surfer and i'm going to tokyo glass that grew up in costa rica,
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assessing paradise. the pandemic gave him plenty of time to get ready for the big event. and i thought it was all over for me in 2020. there were no competitions at all. no lippy games, nothing was but it was not bad at all. i had lots of time to train, lots of time to think about myself, about my goals. and i had a lot of time with my coach, with my coaches. glass is happy that i think it's finally recognized as an olympic sports rather than just the lifestyle. and the german team now has the support it needs to compete. internationally. boy or surfing was like a lifestyle. i was always alone in all the competitions all over the world. but now we have a lot of support from the german olympic committee and support groups. we have a large tea team, the setting it so here 2020 will take place on the japanese east coast. where the
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challenge will change is each wave comes, but that suits lay on glass. just fine. you will in the other, in the olympics, be long in the ocean. proper wave riding and surfing. this here is rapid surf which i don't do that often. only a couple of days a year. but the railway is in the ocean of the 1st and only german to represent his country and the events will be competing is one of the 20 best surface for the sports 1st ever olympic gold metal you're watching t w. c. as a reminder of the top story, we're following for you. for this storms across germany, at least some of the worst flooding in decades, at least 30 people have died, and many more are missing. several homes have been destroyed. braille subs. this has been cancelled across several states. and that's it for me on the new scene. don't go away. the next, the conflict don't. tim, sebastian, interviews,
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nato's deputy secretary general. i'll have more news for you at the top of the, including more details on the death of dutch journalist peter, difference, l as in berlin for me, the entire team here. thanks for watching. the news . the news. news. the news
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the news. the news into the conflict with sebastian after 20 years fighting taliban insurgents and failing to defeat the forces. i'm pulling out of afghanistan. my guess this week is mid july and deputy secretary general of nato, who joins me this week from the alliances headquarters in belgium, odyssey justified the abandonment of the afghan people at the time of maxim in conflict. on d, w. o.
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the news many world right now to climate change. the story. this is much less the way from just one week. how much was going to really get we still have time to go. i'm doing all this flex. subscribe for movies like the amount of class is increasing every year for many and gonna working on landfill. only work very holiday destination drowning in ways we, we every year 0, the exports over one way or another
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way. after all, the environment isn't recyclable. the make up your own mind. d, w, made for mines the we knew that our decisions with role would entail writ. you know, what kinds of raising the band, imposing on the areas, make control public meetings and execution. india. and it's up to the people to really decide what the future is, not to loss after 20 years fighting taliban insurgents and failing to defeat them. nato forces i'm pulling out is down. it's on. last week i reported there's more than half the country at poland to the taliban. advance. my guess this week is mistress joe. i'm a deputy secretary general of nato,
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who joins me this week from the alliance's headquarters in belgium. odyssey justify the abandonment of the afghan people at the time of maximum need the message on the welcome to conflict zone. thank you for having me. the war in afghanistan may be over for nato, but it most certainly isn't for the people of that country. what does it say about your alliance? when the mission fails, you cut and run and abandoned your friends to a very dangerous future. listen, we've been in, i've gone on for almost 20 years now. we all, they remember 911. the 1st time that article 5 was invoked and all allies and global partners have basically stayed for 20 years and i've gone to them. so i
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remember president biden, i think the other day just mentioned the fact that it was an attempt to put an end to our presence in. i've got his son in 2011. so the 10th if you want and he bursary of our presence. so we're not running away, we're just closing a long chapter. we know that putting an end to our mission is also entailing risks. we are, we are lucid about this things. but the decision to put an end of the certain point of a long protracted mission was something which was taken by our all our lives by american friends and allies. and now we're opening a new chapter. we're not about and it goes on the sun. we want you to help. i'm going to stand mr. joanna. the fact is, you're setting a very dangerous precedent for nato, which is leaving your friends and allies at the time when they desperately need you . and i wonder if that's really
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a label that you want to wear around the world. we have been training over 300000. i've gone me terrific duty forces for all these years. we've invested millions of dollars or euro's so whatever currency partners have for the national budgets. we've been investing in this country massively, not only in security and defense, but i'm looking at the numbers. since our presence in our nissan, the number of children enrolled in schools in education, increased by 8000000. many of those young girls, how long you have been mister joyce, how long do you think you're going to last? the figures that i would like you to think of that more than 100? 6400 districts have been seized by the taliban in the last 2 months. key provincial cities, north and south, under siege. hundreds of people are dying every week and important people in
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afghanistan, professional people, women in public life are being targeted, shot out on the streets, and that cause blow not by bombs. those are the figures that the people in afghanistan have to deal with. now. now that you've left them, general scott miller, the commander stood down. he doesn't deny that they're leaving friends in need. he said, i don't like leaving friends in need. we should be concerned the loss of terrain and the repeated fee of that loss has to be concerning. you look at the security situation, it's not good. you're pushing these people into the arms of a very cruel and very brutal and to some people, a very primitive movement that has no regard for human rights or justice whatsoever . so we are fully aware of the situation which is not looking great. we also fully aware that there might be risks for reversal of some of the positive reforms that we have been encouraging over the years. we also aware the fact that the gun
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forces that we've been training with enormous investments. so now aside, they also have to start performing some of the, some of the losses of territory that you have mentioned. also due to the fact that there is an impact on the morale of the gun forces. including because of the departure of nato and the u. s allies, some of those are strategical because they decided as far as we know for them to concentrate the resources that they have considerable resources that they have in order to protect the most strategic irrelevant places. but in the end is not up to us to decide you know, the future of going on and we hope and we encourage interrupt gone p stocks because at the same moment the room for diplomacy will arrive. and i hope you are very soon. well, there is enormous criticism of your withdrawal from experts from military
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personnel generals who are involved in commanding forces in nature intelligence chief saying that basically this is a sorry moment for western grand strategy. we've lost the plot here. that's no, david richard's a former british commander of nato forces in afghanistan. he said a country that we promised a huge amount to faces almost certain civil war with the likelihood that the taliban will be back to where they were in 2000. and one you think he doesn't know what he's talking about, the direct experience of afghanistan, direct experience of dealing with the taliban. and i mentioned that we mentioned very clear that we knew that our decision with role would entail risks. it's a bit more than we also because it's a bit more than risks. it's reality much as we have done in this country for many, many long years. but let me also say, you know, also also something else that there is at a certain moment,
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a decision that is not easy. because if we would be in this logic, we'll continue to say on and on and on one more year, one more year. it's already 20 years on 9113022 is 20 years. so that's a very tough choice that the american president asked the need to have time to be doing. what we need now to do is to not to give up on a gun nissan. and also not even to have this kind of sometimes legitimate, but sometimes exaggerated points of concern. we believe that civil war is, is not unavoidable enough. nissan. we believe there is a chance for peace talks to resume in the hallway elsewhere. we are also seeing regional powers, also concerned, you know, you're in your club on doing this because you're on your clutching at straws here. you're summit communicate, last month speaks. as you said, of opening a new chapter in nature's relationship with afghanistan. you said we affirm our
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commitment to continue to stand with the country. it's people and it's institutions in promoting security and not holding the hard one gains of the last 20 years. do you know what kind of regime the taliban has been imposing on the areas they control? public beatings and executions. women denied basic rights education jobs. no freedom of speech, a justice system based on torture. you know what you've handed them over to the people of afghanistan. as i mentioned, we are fully aware of the risks that are ahead of us at the same time. let me also say something that the original purpose of our present 20 years ago in going on is to make sure that i've got the sun is not becoming again a safe haven terrorist in 20. is this not been not a single there? is that that from oregon hassan on natal soil. this is in itself, one of the primary goals of our presence there. again,
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this is something that we are fully supportive of a future of gun nissan. that they will decide together. we believe that some of the reforms that we have contributed to would also be defended, not only needed to terms, but also if anybody gun people themselves. so i do not believe that there is today a chance for some form of valuable rule that will be taking control over the whole country. i believe there is enough capacity in that country to, to defend this hardly gained progress in social and human human rights. but in the end, it's up to the gun people to really decide what the future was. yeah. for 280 to the side on behalf of the gun people are when we don't believe and i'm i strongly believe. i strongly believe that there will be some form of political settlement
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among the, the various constituencies ethnic groups and also, oh, philosophies and ideologies. inside argon is the purpose of the inter are going talks. well, let me just point out some of the comments, but i disagree with that enormously. in particular, from before my head of britain secret intelligence service, alex young goes to down last year. and he said he was frustrated by the way, we, we, the international community have failed. we have failed to match our ambitions with a proper political plan. that's his view. and his view is also that there is a perfectly cordial relationship between the taliban and al qaeda. and he's predicting that afghan, this time will likely descend into civil war. you point out that i haven't been any terrorist attacks from afghanistan, the time that nato's been there. he says neither islamic state nor outsider have
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gone away. and now they have a good chance to come back. you happy about that? this is another expert. you don't think he knows what he's talking about as well. when i mention that we are ending a chapter in our relationship with the gun, he's done, i speak on behalf of nato this time. and opening a new one doesn't mean that we are leaving a gun. he's done with elementary presence and not continue to support gun. he's done including the security immunity forces, the nato trust funds for gunny sounds. armed forces is fully replenished up to 2024 billions of dollars that we have at our disposal to continue to train. of course, not in in country. they're also allies, america, 1st and foremost, that are now looking and preparing over the horizon as we call them military and capabilities to be able to intervene in, in case of need. so i did that think of need. now they're not intervening now,
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but there's a lightning advance going on by the taliban. whereas with that, which i would politely disagree because there's also public reports that there is we continue to give support to the oregon on forces. we can here to help them run the air force which is quite performing by the way, we continue to train the special forces which are quite performing. by the way, of course, we know that in some portions of gun nissan we, we also have the same information and even more intel, that there are some forums with the morale of the troops. some of them are taking refuge in neighboring countries in tajikistan, in other places, we are not in the situation to ignore the reality, which is a hard reality. but the me and the moment of our ending of all mission and i'm going to sun would have come eat at the perfect moment for that. no, it isn't. it is a great solution. no, it isn't. it is one of the options that we have on our hand to continue to help.
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i'm going to stop. yes, it is. and i'm, i'm encouraged of the fact that also other international players, not only nato, don't me, the us, nothing of the. okay, not in germany, really well turkey, the dentist on professional dialogue on that. it's not a great tribute when the best thing that joe biden can say about your mission is that it hasn't failed yet. you think, withdrawing all the troops and leaving the country to be overrun by the taliban enhances your partnership with i've got to start. i'm not sure how you work that out. we need to continue to support the ongoing afghan lead piece process. you said what process is that you know perfectly well that i haven't been any sustain talks between the government and the taliban. for months sometimes the taliban turn up to talk. sometimes they don't. why construct these fairytale scenarios that have absolutely nothing to do with reality? the peace process will resume and the process is not always resuming,
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goes away. they hoped also because there is like always in negotiation, at least 2 parties, the gun legitimate government. and sometimes the government has not shown up to these negotiations. sometimes it's only been playing, they were excluded from the deal that the americans did one day, the government and i've done this, that was excluded completely on the deal. so this was always going to the deal contain no assurances whatsoever about democracy or a constitution or elections. or anything else that might help people. so hope as you put it, hope that the gains of the last 20 years could be somehow retained nothing before put it differently than because i, i hear you. and this is things that we also concerned about. but here, there are 2 options, there's no way in which ali bon can take over control over the whole country because the other constituencies and other forces that will not allow that. so there is no way for the tale bond to take over by force, the whole of our gunny son. we also are aware,
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the fact that having off connie some going back to the period when the affections and some form of, of, of long term you know, in fighting inside the country is also another solution. not for the taliban, nor for the other forces. so there will be a political compromise to be met. is this the right time? we hope it is easy only the role of the us and nato to encourage both parties to, to join again, negotiations in doha oils where no reason why we see interesting, you know, encouragement for parties to resume talks also by russia also by china also by other neighboring.

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