the news this is d w. why from berlin? germany, chancellor, paid her farewell visit to the united states on the american, met us president joe biden at the white house for dinner and talked. and the pair agreed to disagree on one big issue for the life to our correspondent in washington afford the latest. also coming up on the show, at least 50 people in western germany are dead in some of the worst flooding germany has gained in decades. days of torrential rain. leave communities along the belgian border cut off and hundreds of home are washed away or in ruins.

ah hello em claire richardson a very warm welcome to the show. german chancellor, uncle and miracle is in washington. d. c. on a farewell visit to the united states, merkel and president joe biden has been holding a wide range and talks covering climate change. the pandemic and global security bite and hasn't said of germany and the u. s. stand for democratic principles. the chancellor expressed her sympathy for the victims of devastating flooding which has killed at least 50 people in western germany. numerical is nearing the end of a political career that has a span for american a presidencies. let's take a listen to what both leaders have to say. we are united by common values,

supervision by a will overcome the challenges facing us in today's day and age. and it's my firm conviction that it's not enough to just be connected to common values, but that we live in a decisive time. first woman, chancellor, in german history, the 1st chancellor from the former east, germany. and now the 2nd largest, longest serving and chancellor since he would call here is an exemplary life of groundbreaking service to germany. and i might add, i mean, from the bottom heart to the world on behalf of the united states. thank you for your career of a strong principal leadership and thank you for speaking out for what is right and for never failing to defend human dignity. plenty of niceties there. but let's get straight across to our washington bureau chief in as paul, who joined us from outside the white house where she has just attended at that joint press conference by biden and merkle after their talks. you know,

so good to see you there is, was, of course miracles 1st visit to the white house since a bite, and it took office. what stood out to you from their remarks. really a true historic moment. claire isn't it, it's the 1st visit with president biden, but also her last visit as the chancellor of germany. so the good news was in a way that the press conference started more than an hour late because they had so much to talk about. and that was really the wipe in the east wing of the white house in this beautiful room where the press conference to take took place. sorry. yeah. what was i was sending, i mean, you know, it's out sending in a way was how bate and i didn't put it. the 2 friends also can agree to disagree. they have many things in common. but there are also some things that they don't. and one of that is obviously trim to that's right. it hasn't all been a bed of roses there. i mean, bite has long said that the pipeline is

a bad deal for europe even though europe, even though germany wants gas from the pipeline. what can you tell us about the tensions their right to biden, as did the former president, donald trump, really do not want this pipeline to be finished. some say because they want to sell their own gas gas from america. but the awesome true concerns that russia could use that to ukraine, and therefore both leaders under the american end, joe biden committed put out a true commitment today that they will make sure that the sovereignty of ukraine is not like made by russia once this pipeline is finished, all right, well let us take a listen. it to both abide and, and miracles, comments on that pipeline. while i read in my row, i reiterated my concerns about north stream. to chance myrtle are absolutely united

in our conviction that russia must not be allowed to use energy as a weapon to coerce or threaten its neighbors. we talked about russia and ukraine and in this context also about not seem to leave coming to different assessments as to what this project entails. but let me say very clearly, the idea is and remains that ukraine remains a trends that countries for natural gas that ukraine just as any other country in the world has a right to territorial 70. which is why we've been come engaged and continue to be engaged in the main process. we will be actively acting, should russia not respect this right of ukraine, that it has as a transit country. so no to is an additional project and certainly not a project to replace any kind of transit who ukraine, anything else would obviously create a lot of tension. so clearly a lot of tension there. i mean bite and seeing as potentially undermining ukraine

to struggle against russian aggression. as we've said, i left her to some of the other issues that came up during their talks. one of them was of course, the climate and climate change. what can you tell us about what the 2 leaders discussed there? ride clay claire and this comes at a moment when the chancellor was expressing her deep, deep sympathy to all the family members who lost members of the families in the floods. she did that directly after her meeting with the harris this morning. it also comes at the moment when the best part of the united states it's, it's really hard there. it's so hard that some, some lakes are basically burning. that trims are getting coped in the water. so climate change most definitely is a crucial topic and both natural and bite and stress. the fact that they will work very closely together on that also asked the chancellor america will have left

office. well that's right. this is, as we've said, her farewell visit to the u. s. and in many ways, the u. s. german relationship is at a turning point because of that because there will be a new chancellor after september's election here in germany. what is the view from washington on how this relationship will evolve? right, that is really a big question for those who are a little bit deeper into politics. because claire and the united states, we only have 2 parties. the system is different and people have to understand that in germany, politicians are forced into coalitions. but those who want to understand a little bit more about the germans system know that the role of the green policy will play in the future. coalition has a lot to do with how important, how seriously the fight against the climate catastrophe will be treated. so in that regard, the elections in september are really crucial, also for the united states. and we will, of course,

be covering them in depth here on the w news or washington europe. she's in a poll. thank you so much for your reporting. let's turn our attention now to some of the other stories making headlines act as our top and dutch crime reporter pay to have read has died of gunshot wounds after being shot in a busy street in amsterdam more than a week ago. he would be confidant of a key witness in a drug trial, to suspect have been arrested. there have been protests in the lebanese capital bay route. after acting prime minister, had abandoned his bed to form a government. mary was asked by parliament to form a cabinet in october 2020 is failure. comes as the country is mired in its worst economic crisis. in decades, the european union top for it has ruled that employers can enforce a ban on religious symbols in the workplace. but the staff must be justified and apply it to all religion. equally. the case centers around 2 muslim women in

germany who were suspended for wearing headscarf. and as we've heard here in germany, severe storms have triggered some of the worst flooding in decades. at least 50 people have died including 2 firefighters. as many more are missing, hundreds of thousands of homes are without power and helicopter crews have lifted stranded villagers to safety. the sweeping away anything in their path. these flood waters have claimed homes and lives across west in germany, emergency crews a trying to locate dozens of missing residents, some with traps on rooftops as the water dated their home. but rescue assets a hindered by words that had been ripped apart, raging flood waters and debris. the german army has been deployed clear and passed

through the mud. you can see and there is not everywhere in the houses the bridge there is water over it. further down, even houses have floated away from the lease is guaranteed to take 10 years to recover the people here. oh, broke the businesses too. so it's just horrible. now the regions of north ryan was a failure. rhineland pa last night and czar land has been west effected the flood gates on a damn near the sushi of booker towel, had to be opened as it threatened to burst. the unusually intense rainfall was caused by warm and cool and mixing. germany's chancellor uncle american express her sympathies from washington where she is on her last visit before stepping down as the german leader. if it should thought when i am shocked by the reports that are reaching me from the places that are now completely

under water in which people have rescued themselves in a situation of great need under the roofs of their houses and hopefully will also be rescued. i mourn for those who have lost their lives in this catastrophe. we don't know the number yet, but there will be many, some in the basement of their houses, some of firefighters trying to bring others to safety. my deepest sympathy goes out to their families and doing good, minor teeth, and tell as the weather clears in most of the hot heat areas, some residents have joined the clean, up essence salvaging whatever they can from the devastated homes and r d. w correspondent kate marker is in the town of vall, part time in western germany, and she has more on the flooding there. i'm here and what time which one of the villages has been hit hard by the flood photo does debris all around me,

as you can see. and the rescue efforts which has been going on throughout the entire day today as the police, as being rescue workers. and those people driving heavy machinery trying to clear some of the debris off the road. obviously you that has been lots with the village . the villages as well, sat around all day waiting for information to find out what happened to that herman's and also their loved ones that have been unfortunately at least 2 people who have been found dead in this village. they found one pass and yet in the day and they have just reported that they have college and the look has and, and i spoke to people earlier today and they was telling me about that story. so they knew that this was going to happen, but they knew that it would be some flooding, and they had some warning from the origin. they says they just had no idea that it could possibly be 5 d, w correspondent, k to mark their, their earlier. we also spoke with heidi no ok,

who lives in one of the areas badly affected by the floods? she described what she experienced when the flood waters swept through her st on wednesday night. last evening. it was shortly before dark. the police say the police and the firemen came and they were yelling to the people. we had already heard sirens, but they were yelling for the people, leave your home, leave your house. and even i live on the 2nd floor and they were saying we were supposed to leave as well. and nobody had time to react. and within 2 minutes, the street was covered. had we left, we would have been swept away. and so we watched the whole night, the level water levels rose and rose to probably at least one and a half meters, which 2 americans would be probably about 4 and a half feet high. feet and cars, trees, gas tanks,

little propane tank, floating down the street. and today is clean up. that was hiding noah, and they're describing the floods. what's your attention? it to some sports who's now and the bahrain victorious team competing at the top of france are subjects of a doping investigation, kicked off by french police writers. hotel rooms were searched by officers before stage 18 of the race. the prosecutor in charge of the case said the investigation was opened for acquisition, transport, possession, and importance of a substance or method prohibited for use by an athlete without medical justification. team will continue competing in the final 3 days of the risk and german tennis star angelica cowboy is the latest big name to pull out of the tokyo olympics. the 3 time grand slam winter won the silver metal in the women's singles at the 2016 rio game. but after

a busy season in which he reached the semi finals at wimbledon, the 33 year old is often full rank before the american hard court matches get form that needs update. our don't forget there's always more on our website, d, w dot com or graham and twitter. news. i richardson in berlin from the team here. thanks for joining us. ah, chris, why behind the discover new ventures in 360 degree and explore fascinating world heritage site w world heritage 360 now women in asia in speaking for them all the money and lunch and on the voices. the only way i can the ups office to

create my own. i see their house standing stories in women in asia as weekend on d. w. the. the merkel makes bite and in washington for the 1st time since he became president. there's plenty on the agenda, including the controversial nor stream to pipeline because pat make any progress of that just 2 months until the chancellor found also coming up a global push to close coal power plants, forcing some african countries to act fast on finding new energy sources we report from zimbabwe. this is due to me business on watson berlin. welcome to the program . jim and chancellor grammatical is holding

a one to one meeting with us president joe biden for the 1st time since he took office. she may only have about 2 months left in her job, but this won't be a mere farewell dinner in washington. there's plenty of unfinished business between the 2 countries. on the la merkel back at the white house one last time miss chancellor. from the oval office president joe biden praised the outgoing german leader and the strong relationship between the 2 countries. and one of the things that i want to talk about is the in dorian friendship. the chance has been so responsible for nail down and making sure it continues. today is a good opportunity to discuss the german american relationship naturally in the context of europe and its neighbors, as well as the geo political challenges. one of those challenges is nordstrom to president biden, still feeds the german russian gas pipeline as a bad deal,

and also a danger for european energy security. germany disagrees for weeks. berlin and washington have been trying without success to find a solution acceptable to both sides. i appreciate his visit a few weeks ago. u. s. foreign minister antony blinked and warned again about the pipelines potential to threaten ukraine. aside from the past surrounding the baltic sea north stream to there's also still no final agreement on punitive steel tariffs or to differing approaches to china. after for difficult years with biden's predecessor donald trump, merkle washing and trap is being touted as a review to german american friendship. let's discuss this further with president of the info institute for economic research clemons 1st. thanks for joining us on b w. business. let's talk about china, which we only briefly touched on that because there are differences of opinion between the 2 leaders on this on back suddenly r for the us,

china is primarily a geopolitical competitor, arising power in the asian region and also globally for germany. a china is mostly a trait partner, very important export destination, and the trade partner for imports. it's also important investment destination. at the same time, there are common interest for instance, in human rights. but still the perspectives are very different. yes, one is more about competing with from the us than the other is working with. i suppose another of the issues that there are differences on. is you terrorist on still on utah tires on ease tail, excuse me, which prison button hasn't got rid of. they're brought in by president trump. do you think of chance america can persuade him to get rid of them? probably not. i mean, at the recent e u, the u. s. summit it was decided that they would be talks trying to resolve this

until the end of the year. now this is of cause a responsibility of the e. u, not of germany, so it will be difficult for mega to do anything about that. and then also the, the, the u. s. has made some concessions, for instance, they removed sanctions related to not for him to, i think the that they will hardly make more concessions at this stage, but the talk we're continue. so is there any space on any of these issues for meaningful progress during this meeting, or is it more or less a farewell visits, chancellor maxim, i think it's mostly a farewell visit. there will be talks and it's always useful to exchange positions . maybe also be informed about shift in positions and better understand also the domestic political situation for both sides. that's useful. but in a way, this is primarily farewell visit. marco will not make decisions that will bind

the next german government. and i think both sides are aware of that that china has reported growth just under 8 percent for the 2nd quarter compared to last year. and it's less than half the rate it grew in the 1st quarter. i'm below economist forecast. manufacturing is flowing and consumer demands not picking up as quickly as expected, is more from china on the list listed there been warning signs in recent months about the chinese economy. record commodity prices for raw materials like iron, or have driven factory inflation to their highest levels in more than a decade. china is a key player in the global supply chain. supply chain disruptions caused by shipping backlogs under the energy shortage. i've been a dragon factory production. also, the services sector has slowed recently as efforts to contain a coven, 1900, a break in glasgow, and province in the south, curb consumer and business activity. so the rebound from the pandemic may be losing steam, but the overall picture remains positive,

and china is still on track to exceed its annual growth target this year of more than 6 percent. now a quick look at some of the other business stories making headlines. john, you're on thursday for us back against a new bill passed by the us senate to ban imports from the ocean. jang region washington has accused beijing of genocide against the regions. muslim, we got population ratings that the bill is quite inconsistent with the fact and threatened global trade. timeless at the end, 5200000000 euros in the 2nd quarter, sharply beating wall street expectations that mercedes benz maker is focusing on making more profitable vehicle. is it a global semiconductor shortage that is constrained production and african leaders have been me to, i've been arriving in our b. john for a world bank summit on financial supports for the continents and the panoramic. improving african access to corona virus. vaccines will also talk to the agenda,

only one percent of the population has been fully vaccinated against the drone of ours. now the global efforts to hold climate change is forcing the hands of countries you currently rely on coal. as international funding for fossil fuel projects dries up, they have no choice but to accelerate the switch to renewables. and for countries that are running an energy deficit, like in bob way, the need to find new source of electricity is extra urgent. zimbabwe is energy requirements, are still relying on coal power plant. i bowed for the more pos stations supply the country with above 500 megawatts against a national demand of more than 2000 megawatts. the country has been on a drive to expand its generation capacity to both industrial production. the major hydro power plant was severely affected by years of drought leaving the

country depending on coal power plant and electricity imports. economists see the cutting of funding to projects that could increase climate change. what impacts on economic growth is in bob, we move to renewable energy. are you competitive? does or product to get is directly also is that out of our duties in a just for definitely our growth projections for the coming upcoming years will be seriously em weekend air by this. continuing to electricity. energy decreases his wanted the country's businesses revolving 18 hour parker force industries to operate a few hours. often late in the night. the transition to renewable energy has started some local entropy. yours here, picking up the opportunities to invest in solar fansite,

central green solar farm outside the capital hurry generates a 2 mega was, but plans to expand to 25. the founder victor is positive about the future. renewables is the way to go. our government, you saying we need to deploy 2000 megawatts of renewables. you saw the wind hydro small hydro by 2030. and we really think that with the focus should be when driving financing towards renewable projects. good for the climate good for the global economy. well, or easy to get the here in it to give that invest. as i hoping government will continue to put attractive incentives to grow. the renewable in a sector zimmer is already offering 5 year tax breaks in due to free importation of equipment for national projects. verify was from correspondence

privilege. michelle neary, he joins is on the line now and other enough incentives full as in bob way. and so we've completely away from coal energy secondly, incentives are there. investors that i've spoken to reporting that government is quite kin in terms of having investment in renewable energy is going up a saw. some of the things that the putting on the table is that investors are being offered to 5 year corporate tax breaks. they are also allowed to import equipment judy free into the country and they are also allowed. it is local investors. they can partner with international investors to put up solar farms in the country in the efforts to boost the renewable energy solutions.

china is actually the last fund of co projects in zimbabwe that is under pressure to stop funding. those will, will it stop? certainly yes, because we have seen the pressure that is mounting, particularly with the withdrawal of its $3000000000.00 funding by the chinese international industrial and commercial bank towards one of the call post issue that was supposed to start to be constructed in zimbabwe. about which is about which was going to add about $2800.00 megawatts. so the chinese bank has been pressure to, to withdraw its funding to us that project because of issues of claim or funding projects that are contributing to climate change. ok privilege, missionary and her already for us. thank you. and that's all from me in the

business team here in berlin. if you'd like a bit more from us, you can head to our website to be dot com slash business. you can also find us on the d that is youtube channel, and we're on facebook as the ww dot business until next time. take care. thanks a lot for the use. ah. into the conflict with jim sebastian after 20 years fighting about insurgents and failing to defeat them. plato forces i'm pulling out of afghanistan. my guess this week is miss trends in july, my deputy secretary general of nato, who joins me this week from the alliances headquarters in belgium, odyssey justify the abandonment of the afghan people at the time of macs in conflict. on d. w. eco africa.

willis from the national park in congo. ah, he and his family would love nothing more than to live in peace. but poachers and farmers hunting them and threatening the species ah, what's being done to protect the co africa? 60 minutes on w. o. o news was right in front of the roll for this one moment. then suddenly we agreed to postpone the or lengthy game, said tokyo with $22021.00. thrown off course. during the qualifying round

these for sports heroes. actually it was a flap in the face, but now we just have to fight their mobilizing superpowers. i'm fired up and ready count down during walk down the walking go to tokyo, georgia july 19th on d, w. we knew that our decision to wait role would entail risk. you know, what kinds of regime the taliban, imposing on the areas may control public speaking and execution. india, and it's up to the people to really decide what the future is, not up to us after 20 years fighting taliban insurgents and failing to defeat them . nato forces i'm pulling out, says i've got a son last week. correspondence reported. there's more than half the country at fallen to the taliban advance. my guess this week is miss trying to go on a deputy secretary general of nato,

who joins me this week from the alliances headquarters in belgium. how does he justify the abandonment of the afghan people at the time of maximum need the new schedule on the welcome to conflict zone. thank you for having me. the war in afghanistan may be over for nato, but it most certainly isn't for the people of that country. what does it say about your alliance? when the mission fails, you cut and run and abandon your friends to a very dangerous future. listen, we've been in, i've gone on for almost 20 years now. we all very remember 911. the 1st time that article 5 was invoked and all allies and global partners have basically stayed for 20 years and i've gone to them. so i remember imprisoned by

then i think the other day just mentioned the fact there was an attempt to put an end to our presence. you know gun is done in 2011. so the 10th if you want any bursary of our presence. so we are not running away, we are just closing a long chapter. we know that putting an end to our mission is also entailing risks. we are, we are lucid about this things. but the decision to put an end that a certain point of a long protracted mission was something which was taken by our all our lives by american friends and allies. and now we're opening a new chapter. we're not about and it goes on. we want to help, i'm going to stop mister john of the fact as you're setting a very dangerous precedent for nature, which is leaving your friends and allies at the time when they desperately need you . and i wonder if that's really

a label that you want to wear around the world. we have been training over 300000, oregon, meet the rest of the forces for all these years. we've invested millions of dollars or euro's so whatever currency partners have for the national budgets. we've been investing in this country massively, not only in security and defense, but i'm looking at the numbers. since our presence in afghanistan, the number of children enrolled in schools in education, increased by 8000000, many of those young girls, how long do you have been asked mister 0? how long do you think you're going to lock the figures that i would like you to think of that more than 100? 6400 districts have been seized by the taliban in the last 2 months. key provincial cities, north and south, under siege. hundreds of people are dying every week and important people in

afghanistan, professional people, women in public life are being targeted, shot at on the street. and that cause blow not by bombs. those are the figures that the people in afghanistan have to deal with. now. now that you've left them, general scott miller, the commander stood down. he doesn't deny that they're leaving friends in need. he said, i don't like leaving friends in need. we should be concerned the loss of terrain and the repeated fee of that loss has to be concerning. you look at the security situation, it's not good. you're pushing these people into the arms of a very cruel and they brutal and to some people. a very primitive movement that has no regard for human rights or justice whatsoever. so we are fully aware of the situation which is not looking great. we also fully aware that there might be risks or reversal of some of the positive reforms that we have been encouraging over the years. we also aware the fact that the gun forces that we've been training

with enormous investments on our side. they also have to start performing some of the, some of the losses of territory that you have mentioned. also due to the fact that there is an impact on the morale of the gun forces. including because of the departure of nato and the u. s. allies. some of those are strategical because they decided as far as we know for them to concentrate the resources that they have considerable resources that they have in order to protect their more strategically irrelevant places. but in the end is not up to us to decide you know, the future of going on and we hope and we encourage interrupt gone p stocks because at the same moment the room for diplomacy will arrive. and i hope you are very soon. well, there is enormous criticism of your withdrawal from experts from military

personnel generals who are involved in commanding forces in nature intelligence chief saying that basically this is a sorry moment for western grand strategy. we've lost the plot here. that's load. david richard's a former british commander of nato forces in afghanistan. he said a country that we promised a huge amount to faces almost certain civil war, with the likelihood that the taliban will be back to where they were in 2000. and one you think he doesn't know what he's talking about. the direct experience of afghanistan's direct experience of dealing with the taliban lesson. i mentioned then we mentioned very clear that we knew that our decision to withdraw would entail risks. it's a bit more that we also because it's a bit more than risks. it's reality, as we have done in this country for many, many long years. but let me also say, you know, also also something else that there is

a certain moment. a decision that is not easy because if we would be in this logic, we'll continue to stay on and on and on one more year, one more year. it's already 20 years on 9112022 is 20 years. so that's a very tough choice. that the american president, the assay need to have type to be doing. what we need now to do is to not to give up on gun nissan. and also not even to have this kind of sometimes legitimate, but sometimes exaggerated points of concern. we believe the civil war is, is not unavoidable enough. nissan. we believe there is a chance for peace talks to resume in the hallway elsewhere. we are also seeing the regional powers also concerned. you know, your is your club coming into your clutching at straws here. your summit communicate last month speaks, as you said, of opening a new chapter in nature's relationship with afghanistan. you said we affirm our

commitment to continue to stand with the country. it's people and it's institutions in promoting security and not holding the hard one gains of the last 20 years. do you know what kind of regime the taliban have been imposing on the areas they control? public beatings and executions. women denied basic rights education jobs. no freedom of speech, a justice system based on torture. you know what you've handed them over to the people of africa. as i mentioned, we are fully aware of the risks that are ahead of us at the same time. let me also say something that the original purpose of our present 20 years ago in going on is to make sure that i've got the sun is not becoming again a safe haven terrace in 20. is this not been not a single there? is that that from oregon east on, on natal soil, this is in itself,

one of the primary goals of our presence there. again, this is something that we are fully supportive of a future of gun nissan. that they will decide together. we believe that some of the reforms that we have contributed to will also be defended, not only military terms, but also the if anybody got people themselves. so i do not believe that there is today a chance for some form of taliban rule that will be taking control over the whole country. i believe there is enough capacity in that country to, to defend. there's hardly gained progress in social and human human rights. but in the end, it's up to the gun people to really decide what the future i don't know if it was. yeah for 280 to the side on behalf of the gun people are when we don't believe. and i'm, i strongly believe. i strongly believe that there will be some form of political

settlement among the, the various constituencies ethnic groups and also philosophies and ideologies inside afghanistan. the purpose of the inter are going talks. well, let me just point out some of the comments that disagree with that enormously. in particular, from before my head of britain secret intelligence service, alex young goes to down last year. and he said he was frustrated by the way, we, we, the international community have failed. we have failed to match our ambitions with a proper political plan. that's his view. and his view is also that there is a perfectly cordial relationship between the taliban and al qaeda. and he's predicting that afghan, this time will likely descend into civil war. you point out that i haven't been any terrorist attacks from afghanistan, the time that nato has been there. he says, neither islamic state nor alti either have gone away, and now they have

a good chance to come back. you happy about that. this is another expert. you don't think he knows what he's talking about as well. when i mention that we are ending a chapter in our relationship with our gun, he's done, i speak on behalf of nato this time. and opening a new one doesn't mean that we are leaving a gun. he's done with elementary presence and not continue to support. i've got his son, including his security. immunity forces. the nato trust funds for gun. his dance on forces is fully replenished up to 2024 billions of dollars that we haven't already suppose of to continue to train. of course, not in in country. they're also allies, america, 1st and foremost, that are now looking and preparing over the horizon as we call them military and capabilities to be able to intervene in,

in case of need. so i think i did that way. i think of need now they're not intervening. now, but there's a lightning advance going on by the taliban. whereas with that, which i would politely disagree because there's also public reports that there is we continue to give support to the oregon on forces. we continue to help them run their air force, which is quite performing by the way, we continue to train the especially forces which are quite performing. by the way, of course, we know that in some portions of gun nissan we, we also have the same information and even more intel, that there are some forums with the morale of the troops. some of them are taking refuge in neighboring countries in tajikistan, in other places, we are not in the situation to ignore the reality, which is a hard reality. but in the end, the moment of our ending of our mission and i've got the sun would have come eat at the perfect moment for that. no, we didn't. it is a great solution. no, it isn't. it is one of the options that we have on our hand to continue to help out

going on. yes, it is. that's, and i'm, i'm encouraged of the fact that also are the international players, not only nato, about the only the us, nothing really. okay. not in germany or easily or turkey, the gun is on professional dialogue on that. it's not a great tribute when the best thing that joe biden can say about your mission is that it hasn't failed yet. you think, withdrawing all the troops and leaving the country to be overrun by the taliban enhances your partnership with afghanistan. i'm not sure how you work that out. we need to continue to support the ongoing ass down lead piece process. you said what process is that? you know perfectly well that i haven't been any sustain talks between the government and the taliban. for months sometimes the taliban turn up to talk. sometimes they don't. why construct these fairytale scenarios that have absolutely nothing to do with reality? the peace process will resume and that the process is not always resuming,

as we have hoped. also because there is, like always in negotiation, at least 2 parties, the gun legitimate government. and sometimes the government has not shown up to these negotiations. sometimes it's only been playing, they were excluded that the americans did one day the government and i understand was excluded completely on the deal. so this was always going to leave the deal, contain no assurances whatsoever about democracy or constitution or elections or anything else that might help people. so hope as you put it, hope that the gains of the last 20 years could be somehow retained nothing would put it differently then because i, i hear you. and this is things that we also concerned about. but here, there are 2 options. there is no way in which all the bunk and take over control over the whole country because the other constituencies and other forces that will not allow that. so there's no way for the tale bond to take over by force the whole

of gunny son. we also are aware of the fact that heading off county, so i'm going back to the period when the affections and some form of, of, of long term you know, in fighting inside the country is also another solution. north of the tale bond. no for the other forces. so there would be a political compromise to be met. is this the right time? we hope it is easy only the role of the us and nato to encourage both parties to, to join again, negotiations in doha oils where no, this is why we see interesting, you know, encouragement for parties to resume talks also by russia also by china also by other neighboring players. so i think nobody but nobody from dimensions community is interested in having a gun is done going that.