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and illegal needs to apprehend the fugitives abroad. and it's been happening for more than 6 years. we ask what needs to be done to stop it and apply to funk on john mace as they flee abroad to escape beings crackdown on press freedoms in their city. ah. i british energy, welcome to dw news, asia. glad you could join us. and enjo claims china is using kidnapping and coercion as tools to bring wanted fugitives abroad back to the country oldest in violation of international law. today the n g o c. if god defend does released its latest report, involuntary to tons, china, let's go about operation to force fugitives back home. now the communist party

calls these repair creations voluntary returns, but they've got defenders argues they are anything but such as the case of china's one time most wanted corruption suspect young. she would do this is her in 2016 being escorted off a plane upon her court. returned to beijing, a former communist party official accused of embezzlement. she arrived from the united states where she had been in hiding. they've got defenders claims her family members had been threatened in china, forcing young to return with other requirements. the injury claims there are 3 main methods that china uses to us over these targets to, to ton. first of all, as an young's case pressure on the target family in china. that ranges from threats to harassment and public shaming to actual detention of family members. if that doesn't work, china with dispatch agents to whatever country the target happens to be in,

to use more direct methods of 1st asian that can include intensive surveillance and stalking. and if those means are exhausted, the report documents, case studies of covert teams, actually kidnapping and smuggling people back to china. it's all part of china, so called fox hunt and sky net programs that seek to bring back fugitives from abroad and got that access to finances. but as the report from safe got defenders phase, china's actions violate international law. the in deals campaign director laura hall explained how that was the case. as you pointed out, china, i mean the ccp is breaking international law, national sovereignty of at least $120.00 countries as their official statements point out on a regular basis. what we've documented in this report is that the campaigns started in 2014, reinforced in 2015 and again in 2018 fox hunt and then crime that the so called

anti corruption campaign, where i'm like are options to be taken very broadly. basically hunting, chasing dissidence activists, a growing number of people trying to flee china as official numbers indicate everywhere in the world. now instead of using official legal mechanisms, which obviously we document that they're increasingly trying to do using the triple system trying extradited or default that however, the majority of, of people and we're talking over $10000.00 people that have been recent since operation. fuck 10 starts in 2014, according to official data by the chinese government. the majority of these people are returned to so called a regular means. now that irregular means, again, i'd talk about that in official statements by the chinese government, by official party and state organs. and these,

we call them involuntary recurrence where they operate on foreign soil by the harass people on foreign foil people that are protected and co them or even kidnapped them, and trapped them to make sure they were going to china to be prosecuted to be disappeared. and you talked about the legal means, i mean china, something like 60 extradition agreements, almost 60 x richard disagreements with different countries. why is this not a viable legal route for china? so one thing is they state that they use this a regular means is illegal, means for 4 countries where you know, extradition may be difficult where there may be no willingness to sign extradition . treaty to sign traditional corporation trade is. now 1st of all, this is a lie because, you know, over 30 percent of the cases that we've documented and these are only the tip of the iceberg, have taken place in countries where such agreements are in place. but obviously, because of the solar system within china that they're facing increasing

difficulties to have people extradited because you know, there's been mass accounts and also by you and bodies, clearly stating of the torture going on arbitrary the tension and force disappearances. the certainty of an unfair trial, if extradited to china increasing you are facing, is difficult, you service, it's much easier to actually harass, threaten or even outright take people and bring them back to china through a regular means. you talked about about 120 countries versus illegal operations are taking place. my question is, our country's not aware of these extra judicial means that china is implying, i mean, for instance, our chinese agents able to operate under the over, you know, like there's on foreign, sorry. so one of the things that we clearly as governments to do is to actually investigate and expose these practices because in a lot of cases we do think countries are not necessarily aware of these aberrations

taking place. obviously, one of the cycles of this kind of operations is also to quest people into silence to make sure that they do not report these kind of instances. this is all done also to instill a sense of fear in the community that they are not safe anywhere that they're not free to speak up any way that their family back in china may be targeted that they may be visited by stocks by police officers abroad that they might be kidnapped. so that's one effect which makes it obviously difficult to monitor these practices and to provide adequate protection for these people. but in other countries, we've seen that they have become aware and maybe not necessarily investigating enough. other countries still, especially authoritarian states and countries to china may have been cooperating wilfully with chinese long foresman to actually conduct this kind of illegal operations. irregular operations. you know, with this silent complicity. so there's a big,

a big problem going on. and as you said, then might be using, you know, police officers might be using tourist visas. in 2020 we exposed such an agreement with switzerland were actually police officers were granted some times to reset by just with the authorities. and they might have conducted this kind of operations other countries like italy from where i'm speaking of has this kind of agreements with chinese police enforcement agencies for cycles, you know, tourist purposes way then more common patrol and help control the chinese population. so there's various degrees of cooperation, complicity, and awareness, but this needs to stop now because you know, it's a threat to national sovereignty to human rights, to freedoms. everywhere. a briefly, laura, what countries be doing to stop these illegal activities for the 1st thing is exactly to investigate and to expose these practices for too long. and still we see

many countries adopting a kind of hush hush approach to the continuous violations of international law in this aspect, but are open other aspect by the ccp by p r c authorities. so the 1st one is to really look into this. again, this is linked to all for their obligation of each country of these $120.00 countries target the under international treaties to protect and defend human rights on their fall. so they need to install adequate monitoring mechanisms reporting mechanisms for these communities and make sure they are protected, investigate expose also, you know, put a price on these kinds of violations. as i said, i mean, many of these operations are being turned out in countries that have traditional cooperation agreements or extradition treaty, which china, these need to be suspended. these need to be looked at. what is happening? why is this happening then needs to be a price on this kind of violations of national sovereignty and human rights

everywhere. obviously we hope especially members of parliament may take this up as a matter of urgency with the governments and make sure these practices are exposed . talks about laura house once you've got defend, as that beijing suppressive tactics extend, not just a transnational justice, but also press freedoms. and nowhere has been more visible than in hong kong in recent months. well known media outlets such as apple, daily stand, news, and citizen news. i've had no choice, but to shop shop. it's prompted several journalists to abandon hong kong for safety abroad. the w joyce lee meets some in democratic taiwan. just 2 months ago allan still had hope for his future as a journalist, he brought his prescott with him when he moved from hong kong to ty pay. but they are now worth us after the hong kong use out less. he walked for shut down and mid pressure from beijing. i've been

a reporter for 6 years over news outlet, so i've worked for a gone one after the other. it feels like my identity is fading away to. this is the 3rd time allen, which is not his real name lost his job in just 6 months. he was an investigative reporter for apple daily, but the police detained several editors and a paper closed. i used to work closely with the people arrested. it's terrifying and the threat feel so imminent. at 1st i thought things would get better after a while, but then you heard a former colleagues being brought to the police station and going missing. it's like the clearing, frontline journalists pro democracy, publications like apple daily stand, news and citizen news went dog after enormous government prussia authorities have insisted, debt press freedom remains protected. i recent survey by the hong kong foreign correspondents club found otherwise more than 70 percent of the journalists that

they were worried about being arrested to all prosecutor to for the work under the national security lol. nearly half the respondents were considering leaving the city song. she whole flight to taiwan 6 months ago, shortly after he was sagged by the public broadcaster all he h k. he host at a popular satari kotia, which is why the authorities ta get a tin lay. odds is here. that sees i for i left, i was counting down my days laila. when is it my turn to? we charged all huddled with lucy gala, but no one has the on settlement. i thought yourself not your editor in chief and not the police on seagate on it. stressful to live with such uncertainty. alley, lily montalvan though your group secret. oh my god, i have been gold town. she whoa now has his own youtube channel. he post clips and comments on hong kong, current affairs, toyota. but the what the, why now have the freedom that people in hong kong don't have for jojo, like i feel obliged to speak out for them. they go gulker though i still

collaborate with people in hong kong at all. and i must consider their safety under the security rule that they are unfortunate fate yell hawes, you know, so, so who the lawyer, they don't, dunker allan says his 1st priority as his mental house after all the trauma. but he plans to keep reporting to stories of overseas, hong kong and us being a journalist is more than just a job title. it's also a way of life to seek the truth, to think critically and to care for the underprivileged. we can see things through these lenses and continue reporting even without a job titles. but a will be a struggle for allen to build a readership without resources is a fate shared by many of his fellow journalists back in hong kong. only day haven't gotten out yet. that's it for today, we'll see you back here tomorrow i every

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