all on the p starts february, 4th calling d w one. mm hm. ah ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin tonight, bringing down the tension over ukraine, top diplomats from russia and the united states pledge to keep talking,

meeting in geneva, russian foreign minister, 2nd leverage told the us there are no plans to invade ukraine despite the $100000.00 plus russian troops at the ukrainian border. also coming up tonight is nuclear power work green energy. the european union is considering that very question, but germany calls the approach, green washing. ah. the us finger meet low, best known for his seventy's, hit the bat out of hell. has died at the age of $74.00. will take a look back at a legendary career. ah. i bring gov is good to have you with us on this friday. we are ending 2 weeks, have high stakes to po, see where they began in switzerland. today in geneva,

u. s. secretary of state antony blinking, and russian foreign minister says the latter of met for 90 minutes to discuss the threat of a russian invasion of ukraine. when the talks were over, both the u. s. and russia said there was no change in positions, but a willingness to keep trying diplomacy, no common ground, but no new battle grounds either. lev, robin sifting russia, has no plans for an invasion. despite the presence of tens of thousands of russian troops near the ukrainian border at least their talking. but with relations between the us and russia. at an extreme low point, the 2 countries, top diplomats had radically different goals. the u. s. to avoid russian military action in ukraine, we been clear if any russian military forces move across ukraine's border, that's a renewed invasion. it will be met with swift, severe,

and the united response from the united states, and our partners and allies. russia has said it wants security guarantees from the west, including denying nato membership to ukraine. russian foreign minister, sergey love. raw said he hoped for a di escalation. we should not go to the suit. i spoke frankly about this with tony blanco's usage and he agreed that we need to have a more reasonable dialogue. bullard was, i hope that emotions will decrease, although there are no guarantees will suit booths to guarantee because you. meanwhile, ukrainians are preparing for an invasion that could come any day. the satellite photos are said to show russian military equipment near the border. tens of thousands of russian troops have also been station nearby. in the east, where any invasion is expected to begin ukrainian soldiers took heart from blinking . the european trip took almost a half percent. okay, i think now when we faced this really tense situation is,

is very important for our country, for sure. it shows that we are not alone that we have support you on with a russian threat. we can count on our forces and our allies power re selena. so it says, however, the u. s. has ruled out a military response to any russian invasion. instead, it is outlined a range of possible sanctions. russia says it doesn't want to get bogged down in endless talks with the us. but both sides say they will indeed keep talking. it's more tonight, i'm joined by thomas graham. he's from the council on foreign relations. he was the senior director for russia on the national security council for former us president george w bush. he joins me tonight from new york. it's good to have you on the program, mr. graham. what would you say today in geneva represents? is it a victory for diplomacy? well certainly, i think it's a step forward. my, it's clear that the 2 countries want to remain on the diplomatic track,

at least for some time going forward and a good frank exchange of use today. the united states has promised written responses to russia's demands in the next week, the russians will reassess and then it will be at least another round of talk. so yes, i sent over to you today. you have suggested that this situation could actually pose a big opportunity to create a new european security order that includes russia. you say that this could help avoid crises like the one we're in, in the future. talk us through that. i mean, what would that look like? well, there are a number of elements to it. first, there is the 1st element is agreement to restrain military activity along the long russian frontier, stretching from the baltic sea to the black sea. this is military transparency, limited exercises. and so for the 2nd very important element is a,

an agreement on a moratorium of nato expansion used to work a moratorium of a specific time frame. that is long enough for the russians to feel that they put off any threat to their security sufficiently to the future to feel comfortable, but short enough so that the united states and nato allies can say credibly that they haven't slammed the door close forever on membership by recipients, thanks. and then the 3rd and i think extremely important element is an agreement on a way forward to resolve all of the ongoing and frozen conflicts in the balkans and in the former soviet states. so it's a new order one where both russia is minimal. security needs are met, but also the security needs of our nato allies are satisfy sufficiently well. what about the sovereignty of ukraine? you have suggested in this moratorium, a temporary block on ukraine joining nato. but isn't that giving in to

a key russian demand? well, it's not, it's not an infringement on ukraine sovereignty. it's something that gradient themselves would have to agree to. but i feel confident that if, if united states and russia could come to some sort of agreement, that would lower the temperature that would give you crane that use political space . it needs, in order to focus on a very real, domestic, political and socioeconomic problems. and this is actually a plus for ukraine over the long run. what would that mean? bringing the u. s. ukraine and russia all 3 together to the table for talks. because obviously we, we can't talk about ukraine without ukraine being there to talk to, you know, pursue its own interest. right? well, it doesn't mean that you frame used to be physically in the room every time united states and russia talks about your crime. i think united states has to give up that

pretence the united states is going to consult very closely with ukraine is going to consult very closely with our nato allies. in fact, we saw that this week, secretary of state and lincoln began, is european tour with a meeting and you praying with president lensky, his counterparts. foreign minister then went to prison to meet with ki nato allies before proceeding to geneva, or talk with a lot that i think is the appropriate way to conduct the set of negotiations. the united states is taking the lead on behalf of both nato and you and our ukrainian partners, thomas graham with the council on foreign relations. mr. graham, we appreciate your insights tonight. thank you. thank you. well, i want to take the story now to andre court, and he's director of the russian international affairs council. it's good to see you again, mr. corded off. let me ask you,

what do you see when you see what happened in geneva today? is this a victory for diplomacy? well, it might be victory, but definitely it's not as flesh and success are they exchanged to use and that's good that they still talk to each other the level of the heads of diplomatic services. but we have not observed and it's significant progress. and at the meeting, also indicated that the priorities of the 2 sites are divergent, not can urgent. secretary blinking is focused on the situation that on ukraine, while means to love offer insists on security guarantees for russia. both sides a have an opportunity to avoid a discussion of moscow can argue that whatever it does within its borders, it's a, it's is own domestic business. so it doesn't have to discuss it with anyone else, including united states. while the united states can argue that to, to discuss the,

the security guarantees from the nater alliance without other nay to member states sitting at the table is inappropriate. and a washington is not ready to do that. when you say that russia can do what it wants to it with its troops in its own territory, but that's not what the kremlin wants from ukraine. the kremlin wants written guarantees that ukraine will not join nato. i mean that's eating into the sovereignty of kiya vision. well, i think that the position in moscow and it's up to you to judge whether it is a they're right or their own position, is that the sort of ukraine is limited. ukraine survives on the life support system provided by the with. it doesn't have a tony mom economic issues and therefore it's better to talk not to keep but other to those forces of keith who have the final root. with that,

when you say the sovereignty of ukraine is limited, are you in agreement with what we've heard from vladimir putin in the past, where he has told us presidents that ukraine is not a real country? well, you know, you are often about my positions or positions of present button. what do you agree with president putin? no, i think that we should take you cane as a sovereign country. but as a country in of, in a difficult position, it has to make concessions. it has that to look for compromises. and definitely in certain ways it is limited in what it can do. you know, present of you came, for example, is in a position to implement the means agreements in fool these, at the limit ation of the ukrainian sovereignty in the way it is. but we should understand the circumstances in of each of the ukrainian leadership has to operate . or one more question, mr. of course, i don't you think the, the,

the limitations in what ukraine can do is a direct result of having a 100000 russian troops right. at its back doorstep. well, that's probably right, but there are some position is that it wants to do tour. a military action of ukraine in the east ukraine might be tempted to to use miller to power in order to resolve the don boss problem. and this is exactly what to rush is trying to prevent . ok. andre court, not the director of the russian international affairs council misquote, and we appreciate your time and your insights to night. thank you. are, let's take a look now. some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world, russia, iran in china, holding joint military drills in the indian ocean. it's the 3rd year. the 3 nations have met to strength and ties through combined a strategic exercises a spokesperson for the drills says the goal is to expand multilateral corporation and to support world peace. so called is like state has launched one of its biggest

attacks in syria since it was defeated there in 2019 the ability group targeted the gray run prison in kurdish controlled northeastern syria where thousands of i as fighters are hell reports, a dozens of i as fighters have escaped to gun and now where the government says it's launched an investigation into a massive explosion that killed over a dozen people and destroyed scores of homes on thursday. police say the blast occurred when a truck carrying explosives to a gold mine collided with a motorcycle near the southwestern town of begonia, a deafening blast. mm. a village reduced to rubble and a desperate scramble to salvage survivors. the people of a p a t watching in horror as dead bodies and debris covered the ground. police

fear the death toll cook climate emergency teams come through the wreckage. on friday, vice president momma dubai wu, mia visited the scene, immediate disaster. he fell as yesterday and not only be full. busy day lamita's, hearing at pity, befell that will while the government is scrambling to provide aid vows to cover the costs of hospital bills, the opposition is calling for an impartial investigation into the incident. with police say the explosion happened when a motorcycle crashed into a truck. karen explosive to the nearby ci ron a gold mine the motorcyclist died the truck driver was able to flee before the truck exploded. meanwhile witnesses said the driver prevented an even greater tragedy by alerting. and you're by school, just in time for teachers to, with the students to safety with their homes and ruins.

many families have been put up in makes, if shelters, authorities are calling on nearby towns to open up their doors to the survivors. there's mounting criticism here in europe over a plan to classify nuclear and gas energy as sustainable investments. i'm today is the deadline to give feedback on the proposal, spain, austria, denmark, and luxembourg have written a letter. they are criticizing this plan, but the european commission is determined to see it through climate activist say, doing so would be a huge step backwards. i know that i who, cushy mouth of a nuclear disaster that shook the world in 2011 and changed the way many people, few nuclear energy. until shack says fukushima mobilized him. the french anti nuclear activist, travel to japan, after the catastrophe for worth it in

a hope for me. this looked like the end of the world. after from this moment on, i really asked myself about the risk that the population is exposed to, especially women and children when living next to a nuclear reactor or other nuclear facilities. being exposed to possible nuclear accidents because she was actually door a nuclear. while some new countries decided to face out nuclear energy after fukushima, france stuck to its nuclear tradition. more than 15 nuclear reactors are spreads over the territory right now. clearly a wrong choice. andrea shacks is the 72 year old lives on a peninsula normandy, northern france. that is well known for its natural beauty and for its high number of nuclear facilities, france derives about 70 percent of its electricity from nuclear plants like this one here in flam, or will it f electricity of france. a largely state own company operates these nuclear plants and says they're safe and strictly monitored. predicts like andrea

shock, think differently, brutal for the older nuclear power plants get, the higher the risk of accidents, you really cannot say they are infallible food. finally, nuclear power plants produce nuclear waste, 100 holder's vehicle receiver, easy here in la. ugh, close to the activists. tom town. a plant process as nuclear waste. the factory is the regions biggest employer at this local debate on further investments in nuclear power. residents also bring up the huge risks, but the company's spokesman says, nuclear is better than garza and carbon facility we're facing a climate emergency and global warming. and even if nuclear power is not designed for this purpose, it now represents a huge advantage that it doesn't to mit, lots of greenhouse gases will coo de guess if it's there in it's, it's to become carbon. neutral by 2050 france has already announced it will start

building new nuclear power plants. despite criticism from some e o countries like germany energy expert, nicola massett, she supports the french government smooth and he did not know. the idea now is to develop reactors that can be produced on an industrial level in factories as automated as possible to make it cheaper and guarantee quality yardly liquidity alpha for entre sag new technical solutions are not the answer. he wants nuclear power to belong to the past, but france has already decided it will be part of its future. oh, i'm joined now by lena zane, so she's a member of the german buddha's talk with the social democrats. she's also part of the parliamentary committee for the environment, nature conservation, and nuclear safety. miss isolate is good to have you on the program. why has it germany been able to convince more countries, more members of the european union to be against this proposal?

a good evening and thank you for having me here. i'm. so germany has a very ambitious plan to increase a share for new renewables with the end of this year, and there will be no nuclear energy anymore. it be produced in germany and we want to withdraw from co will as soon as possible and, and the coalition, like when we talk of 2030, to be clear. this is a very bad business plan and there is, of course, no well tentative for it. but with this plan, germany is a pioneer in europe and wealth white and many other countries have different plans how to go on with their transition to renewables. and we advocate for our way to go internationally and translate, we have shows just today it announced again his initiative for global climate cup in the g. 7 am circle. but i think we need to admit that other

countries take other ways, but i want to and say that's and nuclear energy is not sustainable. and that we need to do anything to get away from it. you know, i'm sure you're aware of this letter that was signed by spain, austria luxemburg, and denmark, the or against this proposal. they warn that the european commissions move is a big step backwards. is it i mean, do you consider it to be a step backwards? i'm sorry, i didn't get your last sentence or do you consider the plan by the european commission to list nuclear power and gas powers of sustainable? do you consider that plan to be a step backwards? yes, i think it is a step backwards to collect, declare, and these and type of energy. the sustainable evaluates the taxonomy as an instrument for investors to find out about the sustainable sustainability of their

investments. and the production of nuclear energy is anything but sustainable. how can you declare technology to be sustainable that shifts immense risks and costs to future generations? and also, with regard to, to am gas. this is not a sustainable source of energy, and i think it is a step back voice message. let me just ask you, you know, you're, you're with the german government. the german government has so much power within the european commission. are you planning to take action against the commission? if it goes ahead with this plan? as a parliamentarian, i cannot talk for the german government. what would you like to see how it? sorry, what would you like to see the german government? do? i think the german, i'm ensure that a german government right now preparing a response that takes into cutter consideration, the problems that come with

a special nuclear energy, but also with gas. however, one has to say that our, we know from experts that we probably in germany will need gas and, and asked and next is in a limited period of time as a transition. as a transition. and angie am so source of energy, but ensure that the government tonight prepares or is currently preparing a good response to, to the commission's proposal. we will be watching to see what the government here in berlin does. lena's arts or with the german buddhist target member of the social democrats. besides, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. thank you. good bye. for one of the biggest voices in rock music has fallen silent. marvin lea, a day, better known as meatloaf, has died at the age of 74. he sold more than a 1000000 a 100000000 records in a career that spanned 6 decades. here's

a look back at his life in his legacy. m. o u. s. sing a meatloaf died on thursday at the age of 74. but i'm oh i the thing whose real name was marvin lee a day initially pursued a career in musicals and 1st affected why the attention as eddie, in the rocky horror show it to be a music. oh yes, no. now album, back out of hell came in 1977. it's so 43000000 copies. ah, the hit followed, but his career suffered at times due to truck related problems and disputes with the right to of his hit songs. jim steinman,

he was happiest on stage performing for his loyal and devoted fans. that's easy. the fact that they have bought tickets come to shows. and the majority of my loved one, i'm done. that's been the best present than you could ever get. ah, now the big man of the rock bennet has gone, but the music lives on. ah, are this pulling our coach corresponding scott rock spur on this friday? hi, scott. meat loaf. the name itself has a huge presence in the room. he was a huge presence in the entertainment industry, wasn't oh yeah,

i mean large of the life and every aspect, literally, and figuratively in, in, in all the music he did. and in the acting a performance is good. even in this or celebrity personality, he was, he was, he was always over the top i'm, as you mentioned, he was a room, a major, a success in pop music song over 100000000 albums. if you look at his sort of his, his influence on, on pop me. so i think out to see how he worked together with a jim steinman, his the songwriter on the 3 bad out of hell albums. and what they did was sort of mash up genre, sort of broadway show tunes mixed with rock power cords with a bit of disco thrown in and, and pop a bubble gum music or lyrics added to that. and, and they made the sort of epic 8th, 10 minute a songs which were sort of like little pop operas and it, no one had heard anything like it before. and critics with some i'm sneer at them, but the fans loved it and i think, yeah, millions of them around the world tonight will be sort of screaming bad karaoke

versions of those songs in tribute of the great i me, bubble gum and meat loaf that is not what your mother wants to have for dinner. that's for sure. what would set meat loaf apart as a senior and as a performer? well, i mean, as a singer this voice, i mean, or an incredible range in his voice, he could sound like janis joplin and he could sound like freddy mercury often in the same line. it was, it was quite phenomenal. m. as a performer, i mean, he was incredibly theatrical, i think that came from his background because he started with stage musicals. i mean, he did the version of version of the rock, your picture show on stage before he reprise his role as eddie for the cult film, a version of that. and that sort of theat trap theater ality that sort of playing to the cheap seats in the theater approach. that's what he carried over to his live shows and to his music. and i think that's what really appealed to the fans. there was a say critic sometimes weren't weren't so kind of he said himself that he was all the officers circus clown in the pop world. but that's definitely not. i mean,

you could see that he was definitely an actor and that came through even in his music, and i'm sure he'll be missed by a lot of people. it's got roger wrote helping us remember the life in the legacy of a man named meatloaf. got thank you. you're watching the w news eco africa is up. next. i'll be back at the top of the hour with more will news followed by the day, joins ah, [000:00:00;00]

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