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w ah, ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin to night, a military escalation in the crisis over ukraine, the pentagon, sending 3000 troops to beef up the american presence in europe, russia denouncing that deployment as destructive, saying it will only increase tensions. also coming up would be goldberg taken off air over a holocaust comment. us superstar saying nazi persecution of the jews was not about race. now the memorial center wants her to come along and find out the truth.
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and the fanfare begins, the winner olympic torch relay completes its 1st day, but with human rights abuses. andy corona, byron's pandemic in the spotlight. we asked whether the actual sport risk becoming a side shift ah, i'm regards to our view as watching a p b s. in the united states into all of you around the world, it's good to have you with this this wednesday. it is a military escalation in the crisis over ukraine. today. you as president joe biden saying that he of sending 3000 troops to strengthen the american presence in eastern europe and to reassure nato allies of america's commitment to collective defense. the pentagon emphasizing it is not sending troops to ukraine, but adding today's announcement is meant to deter russian president vladimir putin from invading the country. the kremlin has already denounced the move calia
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destructive saying that it is likely only going to increase tensions another day. another increase intention over ukraine. the u. s. is sending 2000 soldiers to poland and germany, while another 1000 move from germany to romania. the current situation demands that we reinforce the deterrent and defensive posture on nato's eastern flank. president biden has been clear that the united states will respond to the growing threat to europe's security and stability. our commitment to nato article 5 and collective defense remains ironclad. the pentagon made it clear that no u. s. soldiers will fight in ukraine. he did ukrainian president volota mere zalinski said diplomacy comes 1st, but no options are off the table. me. we only think about piece from with we only think about the return of our occupied territories and only through diplomacy,
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lamentation of shuttle issue. bish, we will not give up with a single piece of our land to day yolanda. we will not give up our territories. we needed them no matter what the pricey. yeah. cops, enough. ah, jeez. but i would nimble on despite zalinski reassurances. others are preparing to do battle. if it comes to a fight. the click go boxing brothers one. now the mayor of give both signed up for the army other. calling we another week. and an aggressor have to understand you. they do it activity aggressive activity against your brain. you have to pay huge price for that. would it have to fight? leak documents confirmed by the pentagon, reveal the back room diplomatic efforts to avoid war. the u. s. offered russia access to inspect key military sites in return for a d escalation. russia says it has no intention to invade ukraine,
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but these pictures released by russia's defense ministry showing joint combat drills with bella. bruce sent a clear message. russia is not backing down. all right, we've got tim coverage of this development tonight. i want to bring in a very on oliver south. he's in washington and nick connelly is covering of it's for is in keep in ukraine to you both. it's good to see you. all right, let me start with you. why this deployment now? i mean, have the security situation changed or are we talking about purely symbolic moves here? as a bit of both brand, really the pentagon spokesperson a john kirby earlier said that it's a response to that russian troop built up that we're seeing. we saw satellite pictures earlier today showing that to russia continues to add forces to bela ross . and of course, to that a broader region between russia and the ukraine. and that's a concern, of course,
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for the united states for its nato allies as well. and that is met now with a troop of build up of the united states. but of course, i'm very much smaller scale, and therefore, yes, in part, it's also a symbolic move given that 60000 u. s. troops are already stationed in europe, and the 100000 russian soldiers on the other side of the border and 3000 u. s. troops is really not big of a number that we're seeing here. assent and deployed by the united states. and nick, the pentagon spokesman, today made it clear that the u. s. is not cindy, any additional troops to ukraine? so what does today's announcement mean then, for the situation on the ground there why i think it just shows to ukrainians once again, what's the value of nature? membership is and the numbers in ukraine for nature, membership were not particularly high before russia. annex crimea, back in 2018, started that separatist campaign in the east. and you, ukraine, basically has been convinced by blood in the future the last 8 years that this is
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in alliance with being in, in that it makes a difference being outside m, the block m, i think the ukraine's happy happy to see us deliveries of ammunition of weapon system, those the javelin, anti tank missiles in recent weeks from the u. s. also from the u. k. but beyond that, the ukrainians are now very clear that apart from weapons and cash, they're on their own and it, in the short term medium term, they'll have to stand up to russia on their own without boots on the ground from the u. s. or other western allies and you will, they can do at this point is hope that this passes for now, and at some point russia will be distracted. they will be able to join nato or some of the alliance that puts more comfortable position in oliver as it stands right now. we know that 8500 troops are on high alert in the us for a possible deployment. now we've got 3000 that we know are going to eastern europe . do we know exactly how long they're going to be stationed there?
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the official take, as it is just a temporary, a deployment. of course, we don't know for how long because what the us eventually wants to reach an agreement following the diplomatic effort that we've been seen over the last weeks . but of course, that implies that putin d escalades, that he changes cause that he drops his maximum demands that we furred. and that our, of course, russia wants to ban the ukraine from joining nature, something that nato won't accept. so we are really very much in a stalemate here right now, and it doesn't look like things are getting clearer as we speak of we're looking at that russian troop build up. so it's rather likely that we're seeing of the tensions getting more severe before we see any kind of the escalation. oliver's al report tonight from watching tunic connelly with the latest from keith to both of you gentlemen. thank you. everyone. take the story now to poland. i'm joined now by wireless love fogel. he's been a member of the polish parliament for the governing law and justice party. he joins
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me to night from war, so it's good to have you on the program. let's just talk about numbers for a moment here. 1000 troops going to poland from the united states. is that just a drop in the bucket for you? good evening. hey, it's a pleasure to be with you. now, it's not the, it's not a drop. it's an extremely important from our point of view, from the point of view of our central european allies. it shows the unity and strength of nato. the strengthening of the eastern flank in this situation is extremely important. we have diplomatic talks on one side, but on the other side today, i believe that there is, i believe, for western alliance. extremely, extremely important. the u. s. says that these troops will not be going to fight in ukraine, but in your opinion,
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is just the right time to be sending troops to, to eastern europe. i mean, there is the possibility that these moves could escalate, instead of stabilizer deescalate, do you agree? i don't agree though, and i would say there is no better time than right now for or for strike, for new american presence on the, on the ground here in the, in the europe. because we cannot let us being taken hostage by the russians by the by proteins propaganda and putting aggressive polish. we have to show our rank, we have to show our decision ness and we cannot as west as the ally. and so we can on to be, and becky know all the time the nato police opened earth is
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something that oh, alliance members agree own. and we have to send a very clear message to the kremlin ukraine. try to determine that there mean a future too heavy territory complete. and then the pre from any aggression is, is the key to proper or the relationship, the relationship between russia and the wet. and we know mr. forget that russia does not see it. that way. we have the illegal annexation of crimea as one example to prove that. i know you are, your country shares a border with ukraine. how big is the concern, or the fear that if russia were to invade ukraine, that, that military conflict could then spill over into poet
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we sarah bird, they're not only for ukraine, but we've russia itself as well. but most importantly, we, for hundreds of years of history with russia, you need different form though we can, we can talk from our experience that the inter realistic politics will be followed by russian government. at teal scopes, helped by, by a very strong western, rethought we all hope for the escalation by the show of strength and the ability to respond. it's also extremely important when it comes to and to the me, it's the escalation and possibility. i still hope that this is just a power play from,
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from lobbying by the mere putting and that he wants he wants attack ukraine. but in this case, in this case, well, i don't, i don't think poland would be president directly to our current sarah. and the concerns of all the baltic states are real because it's may seem very different from power, east. berlin or washington perspective. broad right here on the, on this part in this part of europe and the russian friends is israel. yeah, and that's why it's very important that we hear views coming from countries such as poland, but a lot forget member of the polish parliament for the governing law and justice party. mr. forget, we appreciate your time and your insights tonight. thank you. thank you very much. wears a round of now with some of the other stories that are making headlines around the world. the european commission has given the green light for some nuclear energy
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and natural gas investments, to be labeled as green and sustainable. visual, se private investment can contribute to fighting climate change, but critics morn the legislation jeopardize is the target of achieving carbon neutrality. by the year 2050 austria says it's considering a legal challenge to the room. germany and the united states have rejected the word apartheid in connection with israel. amnesty international published a report this week accusing is real practicing segregation, dispossession and exclusion against palestinians. amnesty says its findings are based on the seizure of palestinian land and the forcible transfer of people. know, israel has rejected the fine and misty was a respect to the organization will be goldberg has been suspended from the us. talk show the view for her remarks about the holocaust. goldberg said the nazi persecution of the jews was not about race and that set off
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a storm of outrage. goldberg later apologize? she has now been suspended from the show for 2 weeks in her on air comments will be golder, claim that the holocaust was not motivated by racism because it involved, as she said, to groups of white people following the backlash cul de took to social media to apologize for her comments and correct the statement she made on air. she tweeted, on today's show, i said the holocaust is not about race, but about man's inhumanity to man. i should have said it is about both. the jewish people around the world have always had my support and that will never waiver. i am sorry for the hurt. i have caused the critics of goldbergs. com and said she was uninformed about the etiology behind the holocaust. and that her comments played down the dangers of anti semitism, the director of the yet version memorial in israel, invited her to visit in order to educate herself better with goldberg display,
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in her words, a fundamental lack of understanding, probably all self knowledge about what these anti semitism in general and the holocaust in particular nazi germany, hitler persecuted. i need to late that the dues because they saw us as an inferior then torso rice, whether we audibly sold mod, that's our own event base sauce as the race the that was races, persecution. other observers, such as the president of the center for civil and human rights in atlanta, georgia said they thought they understood the intentions behind the actor statement . but i think what she's trying to say is that the holocaust is about hatred. it's about in humanity. it's about what human beings will do to one another. that is in humane perhaps she was also thinking that jews aren't a race because they're not jews are a religion. a, b, c,
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the broadcast that airs the view said that suspending, goldberg was intended to give her time to reflect on her comments. goldberg has not yet spoken publicly about the suspension. didn't write the ard for more on this controversy. i'm janelle by katie holberg, she's a jewish american political commentator. she's host of the podcast, the katie hall per show. katie, it's good to have you with us tonight over what we've got a lot to talk about heger. what about this, this conflation of, of race and religion? it is, is this just in case of, of will be goldberg not being well educated and understanding that there's a difference between the 2? yes, this is, i think precisely that, i mean i think he is coming at this from a very american ameris centric perspective. the problem is that this is a discussion about the holocaust and am while i think what, what be colberg is also responding to the fact that she as a black woman at travels through the world in a different way than people who are,
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let's say jews travel through the world am and that's a valid point. you know, there's that question of how recognizable summons ethnicity or races, but i think she is really just what's strange to me with that in her life. let me just ask you, how is it valid though? because of it, since she said that this was not racism because she was talking about 2 groups of white people, i mean that you know, that suggest a lot of things that whites can't be victims of racism for example. or that because of her experiences in the u. s. her definition of racism, ram is only whites against blacks. well, i mean, yeah, i think it's a present test definition of racism and it's also a very, again i base united states. and i think what's dangerous is that there's this kind of 0 sum game and we can hold multiple ideas in our heads. at the same time. we can acknowledge that white jews have white privilege. and also that anti semitism is
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based on a racialized belief system which these jews as an inferior race. and i, you know, thank god for small favors will be in i would be in the same boat so to speak. under knots is m, she has a black woman, i as a jewish woman. um and i don't think we can afford to have this kind of 0 sum game or analysis of, of racism, anti semitism, and kind of hatred. and of course the interesting is that she says she'll know better though. i mean, she is on a torture that is seen by millions of millions of people every day and me when will be talks, people listen, i mean, should she just, shouldn't we expect even in america's, you know, cult of celebrity? shouldn't we expect people that would be goldberg to be smarter and better educated . while i was surprise again, her apology in her tweet was much more, i think was much better than what she said on the co bear report, which was her kind of apology, which was a non apology. she basically said,
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i learned my lesson to not say stuff like this anymore, which is not a, it's kind of a passive aggressive apology. she wasn't changing her mind. she wasn't seeing it in a different way. sure thing i learned not to put my foot in my mouth by thing this stuff. so that was actually, i think, really frustrating. and she ironically kind of contradicted the written tweets that she had put out, which acknowledged. and i mean, i have to say, i didn't think this is up for debate that banassi thought used as a different rate grand, i think again, she's just seeing it as, while it's not the racial difference between jews and non jews isn't as big as the one between black people, i'm white people and i think what ironic is she doesn't even realize that she's actually buying into the idea of race because race is supposed to be a social construct. but, you know, kind of accepting the fact that there are a differences between white people and black people and there are not any differences between jews and non jews. right. but that's, that's my point though. i mean, they shouldn't we expect those people who have such a big platform to know better?
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yeah, i mean, i don't know who spoke to her, she needs to speak to someone who breaks it down on a better level. i actually had that amazing woman, brianna, joy gray with all my show the other night on the k to help her so. and she actually said that she would love to ask, what be goldberg, do you think that jews she kind of assumes that would be, thinks it's all about religion. now to be clear, my family who died in the holocaust, they were atheist, so it doesn't matter. but marianna enjoyed grace said, do you think she would have said to what b goldberg, do you think if the jews said ok, i'm going to give up my religion. i'm not going to be religious anymore, that hitler would have stopped and been like, ok, you're in your, in your face. and if not, what does that say about how they thought juice? clearly they didn't see them as racialize other. i know on your podcast you say that gober was stupid for sandwich, she said. but i think you said you shouldn't have been suspended. why is that? i mean, i think that suspending people, i just think it looks, it gives, it's kind of a bad luck on overall all around i'm i,
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i honestly think that it shows a double standard. you're allowed to say really offensive things and outright hateful things about people. but if you say something that's kind of ah clumsy or ill informed or shows that you haven't really delved into this enough that ah, and it's about jewish issues and you're not allowed to fumble. so i don't, i don't love that because i think it also creates, honestly, this idea that you know that there are certain issues that you can travel for talking about. and i don't think that's a good thing to have in the ecosystem. e there is sharon osborne used to be on the same talk show with will be in and as she was fired last year of i think it was last year when she chrome supported a comment that was made by peers, morgan about megan, marco a be we we've been hearing a lot of people saying that there are double standards here that sharon osborne, she was fired for saying something that was good suited to be support of a racist remark, but will be go berg has only been suspended for 2 weeks. do you see
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a double standard there? well, i don't think she, she didn't say what she said was ignorant more than i don't think it was anti semitic. i don't even think what the irony is that the biggest anti semites, the iron is the biggest anti semite understand that you were seen as another race because they actually believe that. so i don't think she, the most you, i think you can accuse her of as being insensitive and down playing the kind of historical specificity of her perspective and how she's basing it on the united states. her own experience and what we live today. but you know, she did. the other thing is that she was making the point that book like mouth which are now they're trying to ban it with graphic novel or graphic biography, about art spiegel men and his parents who were holocaust survivors. or her point was that this should be taught so you know, she's coming from a good play. she's not a holocaust deniers. she's not denying that had happened. he's not the 9, the heart of the holocaust. she's just being a little dense. i would say when it comes to understanding how not these seed saw
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the jews and how anti semite, see jews today. she's got 2 weeks off. should she took the invitation from yon bush, him in trouble there and educate herself? yes, i think that that would be a good idea. yeah, i hope our prayers while she's there. i'm and again trouble now for this, but she should also look into israel treatment that the palestinians. yep. because if you care about persecution, then we have to make sure that we are, and i said, you always try to do this, call out israel for it's a crimes against humanity which it should not be engaging in katy, albert, jewish american political commentator, host of the podcast the k, the helper show. katie, thanks for talking with. if you don't show up on youtube. ok on youtube as well. you come back and talk with the skin. thank you. great, thanks so much. all right. or even before friday's official opening the beijing winter olympics are already
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mired in controversy. concerns about human rights abuses in the high number of corona virus cases threatened to overshadow the game. the olympic torch relay has completed its 1st circuit with more than 500 bears carrying the flame through the chinese capital. almost $3000.00 athlete will be competing for glory, but some are worried. the competitions themselves are at risk of becoming them aside. sure. and that should goal actual or shallow billions have been invested into making sure beijing 2022 is successful. sports fans can enjoy over a 100 events across a range of disciplines. but the build up to these games has been about so much more than sport. politics, for instance, some nations have declared a diplomatic boycotts over human rights issues, including the u. s. and great britain. they will send competitors, but no ministers or officials. environmental concerns have also been raised with organizes reportedly spraying more than a 1000000 cubic meters of artificial snow on to competition sites. china has been
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criticized over the impact of this process. meanwhile, organizes have threatened athletes with punishments for any behavior or expression that they deem to be in breach of chinese law and will expect the i of see to rigorously enforce its own rules. limiting protests, seizure us out, even mister downey, daniel in the olympic charts hunting. there are very strict rules as on. so for the middle ceremonies ahead of time and during the competitions, they cannot express their opinions. down at ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ship ratio. someone again, butts at other occasions like press conferences or during ins have use the athletes offrey to express their opinions, a technique it, but they need to be responsible for what they say the to the south africa. she as i and when they go down the highway. yeah, they are they, they see jennifer alfred due to cove it athletes journalists, will be kept in secure bubbles, while no spectator tickets will be sold to the public. organizes say health and
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safety up paramount. bela of the course cove, it counts and measures are still on top of our agenda. we actually, you know, we have been taking effective measures and everything is under control without a safe games. they would be no game. so we will make sure that the health and safety of all participants is our top priority. fun definitely. more than 30 new covey cases were reported to olympic authorities on wednesday alone. and as many feared, athletes seeing their preparation disrupted by types, quarantining rules off the coming into contact with someone who tested positive last week. belgium skeleton, raisa kim mailman has shared the distress. this has caused her on social media. some of you have read the good news that i was sent out of the ash lation facility . we thought this meant i was to return to the olympic village and will be treated
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maximum as a close contact on the way to the village. we did not turn to do a search, but the ambulance went to another facility i am now c i o c has since promised to return, mail amends to the olympic village. but such distressing episodes could have consequences on performances. as expected, the pandemic is proving to be one of many headaches for organizes of beijing. ah, with
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