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headed to bella roost. moscow says the west is doug king. tensions and germany's olaf shalt plans talks with vladimir. also coming up, have people had enough of facebook? the sites reported a drop and data uses for the 1st time ever. has parent company met c. c's? share? think a staggering 20 percent pos, a taste of life beyond the pandemic, the u. k and denmark lifting corona virus restrictions, in spite of my case numbers and with just a day to go before the winter olympics in beijing, we'll hear from our correspondent in the chinese capital about the start of the competition. and the bizarre life inside the beijing bubble. ah, i'm rebecca richards, welcome to the program. the us is deploying some 3000 troops to reassure its allies
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in eastern europe as tension to mount over ukraine. the soldiers will not be sent to ukraine itself, back to germany, poland and romania, an attempt to deter russia from launching an invasion. meanwhile, nato says russia has deployed more troops and equipment to bela roost than at any time in the last 30 years. and germany, chancellor olla shalt says his planning to hold talks with vladimir putin after criticism for not taking a tougher stance on russia or left shouts had been tight lipped on ukraine in recent weeks, at least in public. but on wednesday evening, the new german chancellor broke his silence in an interview with public broadcasters at the f, announcing a trip to moscow. nicholas, a rich ultimate because i've spoken to the russian president and we're diligently preparing everything that's necessary. it's yours offer and i'm about to travel to
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the u. s. i'll also go to moscow very soon to continue talking about the relevant questions and it's all about acting in a card and they took manner as far as the you and they too are concerned. so it's, we'll meet with you as president joe biden in washington on monday. no date has been set yet for the moscow trip. the german government says its goal is to avoid war in ukraine by driving forward different diplomatic formats that also bring russia to the negotiating table. germany's refusal to send weapons to ukraine has been criticized by ukraine and by germany's western partners. but the government's response, in the case of a russian invasion would be clear, said charles, the legacy host of to the situation is very serious. and that's why it's so important there. we're being very clear what we say and what we prepare. tell it to threatening the territorial sovereignty and integrity of ukraine and attacking it militarily would have a very high price guy from and that price would include
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a potential stop to the controversial gas pipeline not stream to 4 months. the german government called it a purely economic not a political project, but now all options are on the table says charles, and that implicitly includes not stream to the biggest opposition party and germany's parliament. meanwhile, consider assaults is trip to moscow. long overdue in an interview with d w. the cd. you welcome to the decision by american president joe biden to sent further troops to europe. since the escalation was not driven by nato deployment. nor we should ask russia why the deploy more than 100000 troops. and by the end of february, more than $150000.00 troops, about 60 percent of their ramp lent forces. this is as color, tory, and it's quite clear that we repeat ins are really nervous and we see those as an escalation without any need. the russian embassy and berlin,
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moscow's officially not made a decision yet, but the pressure on the german government to take on a more active role is growing. and it's big down to just have gretel ache, her senior policy fellow and the european council on foreign relations. mr. guy, so thanks very much for joining us. now. pressure is mounting on chancellor's help to take more action. he's now headed to moscow. what will that achieve? that's a good question because i mean the interview that you have cited before it could have come from a yes mr. show. he didn't really outline what was versus plans what he wanted to achieve and which by the lines he, he real press, creeping towards. i mean, we can roughly guess that it really be about sanctions that it really will be about the revival of the normandy format. but we actually do not know any details. gemini has consistently refused to send defensive weapons to ukraine, citing historical raisins and frustrating its allies on both sides of the atlantic
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. had germany's approach been the wrong move. yes. and it was also very badly justified. i mean, the problem is the problem for german policymakers is that there is no domestic consensus in this and as no parliamentary majority. and that is something people would understand. but if you sort of bring in history and say it's our historic responsibility, not to a country that has suffered more of the verse from not feel compassion and sort of the scope. and the as has done a tremendous told to the local population. this is even around that of cause has, has caused much more harm done to the basement of other countries who do not deliver weapons, but remains to be silent and history. your opinion watch germany be doing differently? well, again, starting from the rhetoric. also one of the mistakes is and here he's been pretty
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much repeating medical not to talk to the public on what's at stake and what to do you need, if you are a politician at certain point, mobilize your public to follow your macro has never discussed important decisions, the thing was she was in charge for so long that pretty much everybody could predict what's going to be the red line and whatnot. now for example, sholtes not communicating what actually in which site turns on various topics and issues is making people move is because they don't know him yet because they don't know what the new governance lines actually would be. and then of course, they open up the space for a mission interpretation, but also for this information that has been spread, trying to denounce the german government or discredit. it's another key issue that germany is all very involved with in this issue with of course the nord stream to another issue that's being, ruffling the feathers of allies. germany says the gas pipeline is on the table for
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sanctions. if russia does indeed attack, do you think germany is serious about that? well, they have been saying that consistently now, and i think that is a consensus, reached a, with washington on the shows america promised to the americans that a pretty much can't move themselves out of their own commitments. the little cover you have to have on that is that the children still think that an all, all the tax on the ukraine is unlikely that the main target of the russian war rhetoric is actually the way to press shouts, concessions from the to and from, from washington on, on other demands in the ukraine. and here sort of the germans put no string to on the table, but they are pretty sure in their believe they won't have to pull it. the interesting question of course, will start if there is no war. or there is no further war than we witness now, which is the correct term. but no student who is not get certified. done
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a lot of regulatory issues the new minister of economy will and has both to take the concerns issued by the european commission and but other european member states on the legal issues of an offering to much more seriously. and that will lead to a further interesting debate inside germany, because in the past, this concerns helping autoline ignored. and the question on what to do with the pipeline such hands will remain a very hot political potato even beyond the current crisis in just a special thank you very much for your time. because to wrestle for the european council on foreign relations and turkish president rhetoric time early on is the latest world later to travel to kiev with an offer to mediate between russia and ukraine. when it is now meeting with his ukranian council pop a lot of the landscape, he's been attempting a type balancing act by showing diplomatic support to ukraine while avoiding damaging relations with russia. the 2 ladies are expected to sign an agreement to
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manufacture, turkish drones and ukraine. a date of the correspondent economy is joining me now from kiev. nick, how serious is the turkish offer to mediate between ukraine and russia being taken? what we've heard voices from moscow, basically saying that this is basically no starter in recent weeks. maybe that will change with time, i think for the cranes. now this is all about the optics of having this basically never ending round of diplomatic visits here in care of showing that ukraine and its future is a priority for western nations and for big players in the region like turkey. um, i've spent a lot of time here and kevin, i never remembered this kind of intensity of departed visit. so for now, i think the main take away will be those tv pictures. and that sense that ukraine is on its own, especially given later membership or membership in the you is not on the cards anytime soon. so ukraine trade show that at least has this kind of diplomatic
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capital. and that it's being taken seriously and things going on here being watched, as we've mentioned, turkey has been supplying drones to ukraine, which russia regards is highly provocative. and can they be a fair broker under those circumstances? well, i think the that the important thing to remember here is that while turkey has blood these drones took his also and nato member, it is also anita member that has uniquely bought russian missile defense systems. something that the united states were very unhappy about. so turkey has shown in the past that it is willing to go against the line put down by the administration in washington dc that is willing to stray for most major buttons in that sense. it has very intense trade links, both with ukraine and russia. but as you said, those drones have really spooked russia, especially when ukraine use them back in last autumn. and after an attack, as the ukrainian se from the pro versus a purchase. that really has the power to change the balance of force that ukraine has with those separatists, if not with the russian army. for nick,
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thank you. date of it is nick conley speaking to us from care. she is in facebook own, a met her plunge by around 20 percent in after hours trading on wednesday, knocking a massive $200000000000.00 off the company's value chief executive monk soccer burg had warned investors in an earlier coal that meta expected 1st quarter revenues to decline due to a competition from rivals such as tick tock. if the stock doesn't rebound before trading resume on thursday, it will rank as the worst day in the company's 10 years. stock market tenure and one of the biggest one day fulls of any company on record. well, let's discuss this further with rob was from d w. business. rob, thanks for coming. it looks like i'm not the only one turning away from facebook. what are they doing wrong? well, they're losing young people with demographics. i'm sure you consider yourself a very awesome. yeah, over mark, it's like
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a book says is that younger facebook uses are leaving the platform and they are going to the likes of tick tock and youtube tick tock in particular, which is growing in all the markets where facebook is really been struggling. europe, north america, i mean, you don't need to cry too much facebook. they're still getting 1900000000 uses each day. that's around a quarter of the planets population still logging in each day, but for the very 1st time. and it's 18 year history. the number of uses is going down, that's a big problem for them because the big way that they make their money is by advertising to those uses. now matter has various challenges when it comes to advertising. for example, companies are just advertising less at the moment. you know that there's supply chain problems that mean that companies already can't meet the demand from their customers. so they're not looking for more customers necessarily. but also facebook, instagram, both owned by matter, have struggled as a result of new privacy policies from the likes of apple, which meant that they're not as able to target the advertising. and that's
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something that advertise is really want to be able to do. and of course, and what's been the biggest impact then on facebook matter, i should say, well, you were just talking about this drop in share price 22 percent in after hours trading. that was $200000000000.00 off the market capitalization of matter that is bigger than the economy of greece all wiped out in just a few hours. yeah, it's, it's massive, but we're talking about a company that just a few months ago was worth more than a trillion dollars. it's also spoke to people who are invested in other social media networks, you know, like twitter, another very big name, but text based also snap and pinterest. also shaft places drop after this gloomy news from facebook because we are seeing a change in the landscape when it comes to social media. yeah, absolutely. i mean we really seeing it changing very fast. do matter. have a plan to keep up with progress with the way that things are going well. they clearly don't see facebook is the way that they are going to move forward and stay
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with the times. and we know that because they changed their name at the end of last year, they changed it away from facebook. to matter. fact, new name gives you a hint about what they do see as the future marks look about wants to be right at the forefront of creating the matter of us this. you know, 1st will reality world where we can meet with people. we can work, we can play, but also we can spend, spend, spend, but to make that come about matter. mugs look a berg, i've got to spend, spend, spend as well, and it's going to cost billions of dollars and that's money that they're not going to get any sort of return from for many years. however, that is where matters sees the future. while i may be too young for facebook, but i'm too old for the sounds of that. that sounds terrifying. but thank you very much for coming in to break it down. and it's got a round up now of some of the other stories making world news today. benny gant's has become the 1st israel defense minister to visit bahrain. it's the latest high
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profile diplomatic trip since the countries normalized ties. israel's reconciliation with several arab nations breaks with decades of arab league consensus against recognizing israel until it signs a peace agreement establishing a palestinian state is ill and will begin to reopen its borders in phases starting at the end of february, fully vaccinated citizens and visa holders from australia will be allowed in 1st, under the new rules vaccinated citizens entering the country will be allowed to quarantine at home instead of at a managed isolation facility or the united kingdom and denmark are among the 1st european countries to lift most of their corona virus restrictions, despite relatively high case numbers, there governments have decided the virus now poses less of a risk to citizens and to public health systems. but while many a hoping this could be a step towards life beyond the pandemic, some businesses are choosing to keep taking precautions and, and experts,
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a warning. the virus is still unpredictable. packed pubs in london as people meet for a drink after work, just like they did before. the pandemic. a chair is tradition revived. even as the corona virus is still wafting through the air. we're being ease into that now and it's, and it's working. i think it's, i think it's okay, and i think it's happy, it's lovely coming out with well, i've had my coffee. i haven't really nice. i've been almost all restrictions in the u. k. have been lifted. the vaccination rate is high, especially among older people. new infections are decreasing and hospitals are admitting fewer patients, but some still urge caution. it has always demonstrated its ability to surprise us . now, there are some that have this idea that in some way,
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viruses tend to evolve to become less dangerous. that's actually not based on any good historical evidence, and it's perfectly possible that another one will come along. that is more severe. businesses are now free to write their own rules at the hair salon. employees are supposed to still wear a mask away doing so to make you feel more comfortable if you are not. that's absolutely fine as a client sit down where i'm off again, whatever makes you happy, the government is already planning its final faith from mid march. those with cove at 19 will no longer have to self isolate. meanwhile in denmark restored freedoms are being welcome to designers serve in the schmidt and his team are making final preparations before fashion week starts in copenhagen math, free and test free. i am so happy that we can come together again and celebrate
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fashion with families. a fire mall. many danes are relaxed about restrictions having been lifted a 2nd time. more than 80 percent of the population is double vaccinated. more than 60 percent has had a booster. there are far fewer patients in hospital, i see youth. but the number of new infections remains high. a problem for schools in daycare centers, which are struggling to stay open due to severe staff shortages the government is warning people not to underestimate the virus in spite of the freedom. that's why here to many businesses are voluntarily maintaining some precautions of a more i'm joined now by paul hunter in norwich. he's a professor in medicine and infectious diseases at the university of east anglia. professor hunter, welcome. thanks for joining us. as we just heard the knock and the u. k. have very
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high vaccination rights and that's why they're able to lift restrictions. but we've also been hearing all along that vaccination alone isn't enough. so how do those opposing viewpoints come together? yeah, i mean, i think one of the problems is that we're conflating both infection with actual severe disease. and to large extent, the role of vaccines is not that good at preventing infection, although it does prevent a substantial proportion of infections. but what vaccines are very good at and remain good, even with new variants, is preventing severe disease, preventing hospitalizations and preventing debts. and so at some point, we have to accept that this virus isn't going away. it's going to be with us for decades to come. but hopefully, we won't see the same, and i think it unlikely that we'll see anywhere near the same severity of disease, the number of deaths and the number of hospitalizations that we have. and so we
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ultimately have to come to some sort of balance echo librium with this virus because we will, the other corona viruses typically cause infections every 4 years on average. so that is still a very high number of daily infections that we're likely to see for decades to come . but we won't necessarily see the severed hospitalizations and desk, which is great news. and obviously, due to the vaccines are germany and austria, for example, have far lower rates of vaccination. then most of western europe, really, australia has just introduced a mandatory vaccination system and many in germany want the same here. do you think the mandatory vaccinations are a good way out of the pandemic? i personally, i think it, i think everybody should have the vaccine, i think are particularly health care workers. i think it's, it's a moral obligation on, on. if you're health care work that have the vaccine,
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but at the same time, personally, i'm uncomfortable with forcing people to have any form of medical intervention. and we've seen him in the u. k. the the likely backpedaling of the government's decision to enforce vaccination in health care workers because to do that would actually ultimately cause more pressure through a loss of substantial numbers of staff. so yeah, everybody should go out and get vaccines. but that doesn't mean just if they are not yet vaccinated, but that doesn't mean to say i, i personally support compulsory vaccination or i professor pull hunter. thank you very much. paul hunter, professor in medicine infectious diseases and epidemics at the university of east anglia. emergency cruise in ecuador, continuing their search for people still missing after deadly flooding and mud
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slides in the capital, quito the country is observing an official period of morning after at least 24 people were killed and what's being described as the heaviest rainfall in 2 decades . it's a major operation to clear the debris from destroy buildings and blocked roads in kito. and if possible, find any people trapped in homes and streets. it comes after intense rain which began on monday and pounded the capital for more than 24 hours. it weakened a hillside and sent waves of mud flowing through the city. this man from venezuela was in a small room. he shared with other migrants when disaster struck. but a more suddenly the water hit us, the building broken too, and we ended up at the back. we fell down to florida and then we were swept away. you know,
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a death announcement as residents faced the reality of this sudden disaster. and the threat might not yet be over. officials and not ruling out further, landslides, chism as governor, but this will video anything could still happen at the top part of the mountain documents. normally there could be more landslides going, will continue monitoring the area with drones. you know, some of this is all for our safety on to bring comes when a little not blinking but with the rain having subsided for now, rescue teams at grabbing the opportunity to search for survivors. and allison breaking news just coming in us. president joe biden says the later of the so called islamic state has been killed during a target, had rate in syria by us forces report, se abba abraham al, has she, me, al caroll. she blew himself up as the us operation got underway in the north west of the country. bottom plans to make
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a statement about the ride in the coming hours. and we will of course, bringing more on that story as and when it comes in. now to sport where belgium skeleton reisa came, male, men's has been taken to the olympic village in beijing after an io se intervention . after she made an emotional appeal on instagram. after a positive test on her arrival in the chinese capital, my almonds was initially taken directly into isolation, where she then returned 3 consecutive negative pace yards. in the video, she described what happened when she was picked up from the isolation unit. we thought this meant i was allowed to return to the olympic village and we will be treatments maximum as close contact. i am on the way to the village. we did not turn to the village, but the ambulance went to another facility where i am now now after that video was published,
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the international olympic committee into vain to bring moments into the olympic village. where she nonetheless remains isolated from her fellow competitors. date of the sports correspondent jonathan crane is currently in beijing to report on the went to games. and earlier today he sent us this message on the bizarre life inside the olympic bubble. it's been a very serious experience, like nothing i've experienced before from the moment. we landed in beijing on tuesday, we were greeted at the apple playground stuff and has not saved monster through every step of the apple for p. c. o. 2 customs and immigration. and then we had to wait in our hotel room for that all important, negative test result. thankfully i got it, which means i can answer the bubble properly, but the bubble is effectively a 50 when the 50 we can already be in the hotel games. venues special transport takes us in between. and as you can see behind me, the olympic stadium is that this is as far as we can go within this media compound
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with, we're watching people on the other side, they're watching us. it's a really bizarre situation. david, it's jonathan and crime, speaking to us from beijing, you're watching, dw is coming up next in d, w, and use asia mall on the mood in beijing. as we head toward that opening ceremony on the 2022 winter games and the pain of training as taiwan bolsters, it's military to account for the growing threat from china. those stories coming up with my colleague garage vantage after a short break. and now the news update at the top of the hour, and there's always a lot more world news as want to sport and business on our website, www. dot com. i'm rebecca written for me and the entire team here in building thanks very much with ah, with
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