[000:00:00;00] ah ah, this is the w news live from berlin. russia prepared to conduct new missile drills of its nuclear forces. moscow says the upcoming ballistic tests are planned exercises and denies stoking tensions with ukraine. meanwhile, ukraine government and pro russia separatists accused each other of carrying out shelling attacks. and the crisis dominates, of course the agenda at the munich security conference. the major strategy event is taking place without

a russian delegation for the 1st time in decades. and fear storms hit, parts of europe, several people are killed as gale force winds, bring air reyland, very services to hold and more wild weather is on the way and at the winter olympics, russian figure skater, camilla valley over comes forth in the women's single after falling games are over though the scandal over the 15 year olds, positive drug test slides all ah, i'm glad else as well come to the program. russia has announced it will carry out new drills of its nuclear weaponry. starting on saturday. the tests will include firing, ballistic, and cruise missiles,

and are expected to be overseen by president vladimir putin himself moscow denies it is stoking tensions with ukraine. meanwhile, russia's defense ministry says it continues to withdraw its forces from areas close to ukraine. it's released videos, purportedly showing tanks and soldiers returning to that basis. nato has disputed the claims saying is yet to see satellite evidence of any troop withdrawal. despite the ongoing drills, ukraine's defense minister says the chance of a major escalation from russia is now low. this is government and pro russia separatists accused each other of firing shells in ukraine's east. in this government held village in eastern ukraine, a kindergarten hit by a shell. the ukrainian army says the shell that was fired from the other side. it was just until this came up there where you can see this hole in the wall

and it fell into place where the kids were going to have their gym class. luckily none of the kids was inside that room let alone and did not attend this nurse after 2 children were having breakfast at the time and we're planning to have lessons in that room at 9 a. m. according to their schedule, shes luckily the children were not heard. only the employees were shell shocked. you as president joe biden believes to russian invasion, it will take place any day now. oh, job moved walker number one, number 2. you have read the believe that they are gave a full flag operations average. this is william. every indication we have with attack at a un security council meeting you as a secretary of state antony blinking, warned russia was already manufacturing it for vacation to justify an attack you, when you somebody with this could be

a violent event that russia will blame on ukraine or an outrageous accusation that russia will level against the ukrainian government. moscow has already accused ukraine of committing genocide in the eastern don best region, and labeled the false claims as hysteria authorities over. nobody seeks any excuses for hostile elections. we sit, we do not have an intention to do this for days. russia said its troops, i withdrawing from areas near the border with ukraine, but the west balise moscow has a mass, some $150000.00 soldiers around its neighbor d, w, of course. but he has building a is in easton ukraine in the town of trauma tossed. as near the frontline in the conflict between government forces and the separatists supported by russia mathias . we saw your reporting from that kindergarten that was hit by shells. is all this assign the tensions on the in the region are actually growing.

yes, not only in that village or small town where i, where this kindergarden is, but also in other places along the contact line. shelling has intensified over the past 48 hours. and there were, there was another school hit, a school yard, the building was not damaged and nobody was injured there. but, and there were free frequent violations of the ceasefire. all along this line. it's so very hard to determine, of course, who it has done what the always sees, very careful in releasing only information that has been for awfully verified. so most of it is just a accusations reserve each other. the what we know is that some of the ukrainian villages have been shelled. we have seen more evidence here. john was heart access also to this school. but the other side also claims that there has been shelling the ukrainian army is denying this,

saying that it is not going to be provoked by the shelling from the other side. and it will not fire back unless the life of their soldiers are under danger. we will have to see how this evolves in the next few days. the fear is, of course, that this might lead to a much wider escalation. there's a, some uncertainty there, but whether russia really has pulled back some of its troops from the border with ukraine. what's your view on this where the ukrainian government and also western governments have said they do not see russia withdrawing after this announcement that russia would withdraw some of these troops. and there was some activity, but the services have determined that this activity is not really proof of withdrawing its just, it might be just some, some shuffling around. or moreover, the what russia has said it would withdraw the soldiers from its western military

district. some of these garrisons are not too far from you for a new border, so they could be quickly re deployed if all the machinery and the, and the heavy equipment stays at the front line. of course, nobody has a head count of the soldiers. all these are estimates based on satellite imagery based on, for example, tens that have been put up, et cetera, et cetera. so it's very hard to get a clear picture, but what is what, what is clear that the people here remain vigilant and the government remains vigilant. although they are saying they do not see any preparations for an imminent attack, dw corresponded mathias billing of their in eastern ukraine. thank you much. yes. of the ukraine crisis will also be dominating the munich security conference, which gets on the way this our security is tight at the munich hotel, where the meeting is taking place. thousands of police officers on duty as delegates arrived, including germany, foreign minister, and alina babel, and

u. s. vice president pamela harris. the annual discussion forum was launched at the height of the cold war. and this year, for the 1st time since 1991, russia is sending no official delegation, will have extensive coverage of the event coming up and on location at the munich security conference is of course our chief political emsella, to flemish, ala what's on the agenda munich. today but it will kick off with a conflict sation with the un secretary general antonio for terrorist to talk about how international corporation, meaning multilateralism can solve the current crises and problems. and that will range for sure. from the pandemic at to the issue about rasa potentially facing off ukraine in what could still become a hot wall. and that is certainly what is on everybody's lips here. but there's no

shortage of other crises to talk about the destabilization of the sa hell region. and also, and the south china sea, china's ambitions that and what would be a smart response from all those countries who are both allies trading partners, but also capacities. so a lot across the board with the overarching issue, of course, rasa. speaking of russia, a bit warningly, no russian delegation for the 1st time at the meeting security conference in 30 years. why's that? well, russia officially has scheduling issues and, but of course, that will not be that because of those conversations that are being had to also between the u. s. president of biden, who's due to talk to vladimir putin again next week. and that is also a clear sign to the west. i mean the past 2 titles and of the munich security

conference. we're west listeners beyond west listeners. and this time it's about the disorientation and international politics. the fact that russia is missing and will be talked about more than talked with, is more a symptom of the deep and ever deeper division that that is cartney with vladimir putin. clearly having his mind set on changing the power and security dynamics in europe. a you just, i had the chance to talk to the lithuanian foreign minister about the crisis in eastern europe. let's have a quick listen minister. another bag is rasa is not here prominent the at this munich security conference, what are the issues you would want to discuss? with russia and think that the main issue that will be discussed with or without russia is that european security on that is being challenged. currently, as we speak with more than 100000 russian troops built on in the

territory and with intent to, to attack and occupy independence in southern country. so it's not just about the attack, and it's about how secure can anybody on the board in a bit further down the border? can they feel as a both states when vladimir putin speaks about a new security balance that he wants to strike? how does that translate for you? what trust me that actually we're even without our intention, we are getting back to the cold woman's how would be basically where they knew align, drawn in the european continent and the agreement that were, that were made 2030 years ago about that security order. they are being, their values being checked, whether the way they have still same validated they had before when they were signed. so what's your space expectation towards your european, your nation right now? well, if russia really continues being a challenge in security order,

then we also have to make sure that the countries, especially in the baltic region, poland and others have to feel secure. and we might need more reinforcement and reassurance that the nato alliance would not be. and will not be checking for the dentist baggage, minutes of the 20th. thank you so much. so here after that, talk with 4 minister. i got the impression that the mood is pretty tense there in munich. it is absolutely, but there's also been one effect and by this new threat from rossa, also against nate in that criticism, is that nato is unusually united in this challenge with the outside present presser, that is really knocked heads together. so the question is whether that really is a desired outcome for vladimir foods in and, and many on this side will now discuss clearly he needs something not just to be on

the table. he needs some kind of outcome. and here i'm hearing there already debates taking place on various levels, what that could mean in the end. and that could mean another document, all everybody signs off on because after all, the documents that guarantee the status quo in europe and for nato is something that, that he put in didn't sign off on himself. and that's why for him that is history that needs fixing. where's the west feels it's history that should simply be left in the past to w's cheese, political? it's abigail acoustic there. thank you jayla. and of course, we'll have full coverage from munich as the conference kicks off in less than 30 minutes time right here on the w news. but 1st, let's have a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. hundreds of people were rescued from a ferry that caught fire while traveling between greece and italy around 290 passengers and crew are on board report. say 2 people are still trapped and the

ships car dick the rescue operation is still going on. lawmakers in ecuador have voted to allow abortions in cases of rape girls under 18 indigenous women and women from remote rural areas will be allowed to terminate pregnancies up to the 18th weeks. others will have up to 12. anti abortion activists have demonstrated outside the courts as the bows. 7 took place was health organization says it will help 6 african countries to set up facilities to produce m r, and a vaccines against cove. at 19 news was welcome to the summit between the african and european unions in brussels. the w h o program was created to help the poor countries produce them or, and i, vaccines, domestically during the grown of ours, pandemic of the rich countries bought up most available vaccines. south africa is currently the only country in the group producing m r n a jobs. the president of the african union marquee sell said that producing vaccines in africa is

a big step. but that other countries should buy vaccines made in africa to look for one real challenge is we need to be able to buy vaccines that are being produced in africa because there will be other parts of the world that will produce much cheaper vaccines. so it is important that over and beyond technology transfer, we also purchase the vaccines. obviously, intellectual property is an issue as well, but i think the urgency now is this technology transfer takes place. and for more the story, i'm a john, buddy ws a jack park in brussels. jack this announcement the at the meeting of you and african union leaders. will african leaders leave the summit? happy now? well, not entirely to be on a scout. what they were hoping for is to press the europeans to really release the intellectual property so that they could do it themselves, essentially,

to make these vaccines themselves on the african continent. but they have got some, some distance now they have moved on this, this technology hub that will be set up and will include egypt, canyon nigeria center go south africa, and she nicea will mean that geographically across africa, there are no vaccines being produced on the ground and that they can disperse them, are less than 10 percent of african people are vaccinated with 2 doses. and when you look at the numbers in europe, obviously most countries are hitting the sort of 6760 to 70 percent with booster shots. so i mean, this is progress. it was said by the african leaders who were i'm opposed to the south african president also as part of that press conference. it was welcomed, but they did highlight that really what they still want and what they're calling for is that release of the intellectual property from the european side. they simply say that it's not just about the intellectual property. it's also about the know how and that's why they're going to help them with those hubs. so the civically is president mackey sal who is also the african unions. current president

said that africa priority is to be electrified and industrialized, how can europe help their well, this is all related as well to this plan that the european commission put for just a few months ago, this global gateway, as it's called, it's a $300000000000.00 euro investment plan for the whole world, and around a $150000000000.00 is earmarked for africa for infrastructure projects. for instance, things like sending cables under the sea between the european and african continents with hyper fast internet connections. so that data can transfer quickly between the 2 continents. that's one of the suggestions as part of this project. and i think the african leaders would have spent a lot of time asking that the counterparts in europe and their teams would have been communicating on exactly what that investment package will look like. what it will mean. it's a competitive project to china's belton road initiative, which the european se comes with really heavy strings and stringent forces on the,

on the african continent that give china power on the continent. the europeans say this is more of a clear investment. a fairer investment is what the europeans want to bring to the table. jack, this summit had the rather ambitious objective of resetting the relationship between european and african leaders. has it? tough question, but i remember back in 2014, when there was the last summer of this nature in brussels, there's been another one since on the african continent. but back in 2014, they were talking about changing the relationship from donor to investor. and i think that has actually been some progress in that global gateway. thing that i was talking about is kind of that resetting the relationship. it's hard to tell, isn't it? when there's so many leaders, so many different issues between the 2 continents, but will have been, you know, discussed right these 2 days of this summit, i think what they're trying to show though, is that the 2 continents can get together and can talk to each other from the european perspective, i think they will be quite happy about that, but i think as well,

the success of vis summit will be measured on how happy the africans are when they leave, whether they've managed to get, you know, some of the things that they wanted in that bilateral meetings, and i think that issue around the vaccines really hasn't gone the full way that they wanted it to check back in brussels for us. thank you. jack in the united kingdom is so currently bracing for the impact of an atlantic storm that's expected to bring strong winds and coastal flooding. so latest, in a series of storms that have hit part of europe in recent days, at is 4 people were killed off the gale force. winds brought down trees and power lines across germany and neighboring countries. disrupting air rail. and as you will see, ferry trouble. a commute of ferry on the elbow river close to hamburg, people here. i used to stormy weather, but not to this luckily,

no one was seriously hurt. shipping for large vessels has been suspended in many coastal areas in northern germany, west storm, elana hit particularly hard rail traffic is also affected. many long distance trains in particular have been cancelled causing major problems for those traveling from hamburg, oberlin to munich. and for the small cancellations are precautionary measure because the safety of our passengers and employees is our top priority. we don't wanna trace being stuck on the open track in these weather conditions. i asked because making sure 30400 or 500 passengers on the train are safe is difficult, especially when the train is also cut off from the power supply. walnut grove, alarm. falling trees, post the highest risk, the motorists. several people were killed when their cars were hit in germany and neighboring countries like poland and the czech republic. emergency services are advising people to stay home if they can,

because the next storm is hot on the heels of millennia. and zane up as it's been called could be even more destructive at the winter olympics in beijing, china's freestyle skier, eileen, go, has won her 2nd gold medal at the games. the san francisco born skier was part of the u. s. seem when she was younger, but switched to china in 2019 and the half pipe final who sawed higher than any others here in the as she completed back to back ariel tricks a score of 95.25 on her 2nd run was the best of the day and ended her the gold medal. meanwhile, russian figure skater carmella valley of either heartbreaking performance during the women's free skate competition on thursday, body about stumbled and fell several times as she finished 4th and in tears. the 15 year old was a favorite to win golden women's figure skating,

but it was uncertain that she would have received a medal officer tested positive for a band substance to with international olympic committee. president thomas bar at some strong, was for body of us coaching. when i afterwards saw how she was received by her closest on to rush with such a what appeared to be a tremendous coldness. you you it was chilly, tu, tu, tu, tu, to these to see these? rather than her giving her comfort, thomas bob speaking then for more on this w sports, a jonathan crane joins us now from beijing. johnson heartbreak for the 15 year old . they're from russia. what do you make of thomas bass reaction where it was already skating reaction. it wasn't a, it's right to see thomas back. so emotive, clear,

really where the i see thinks the blame lies basically saying that if a 15 year out has drugs like that in a body, the people considered guilty of the ones that actually administered it to her. and it's an interesting position really because last week the i was saying they couldn't comment, given it with an ongoing legal case. it still is ongoing, yet they've made that position quite clear. and those comments that we had in the, in the clip you just place, you know, that was referring to her coach attorney to barrett who came off the ice fall from consoling how it was basically scolding her. say, why did you not fight after you fell for the 1st time? so really, really, really skating comments from thomas bought by that he kind of dodge to question when he was asked, how much responsibility does the i see having over this? he basically replied, look, we were not ignoring problems for just following the rule of law. so the saying that hands were tied because of that court ruling that did it effectively allow

come in nevada to compete and lifted the provisional suspension. but a lot of people are saying, look, if the i see a taken a stronger starts with russia in the 1st place, all those years ago when a state sponsored doping scandal emerged, maybe we wouldn't be in this position. we are right now on a completely different note, u. s. bonds kia, eileen, who has one another gold metal for china, but she's this, we may not be there to defend her title in 4 years time wise that well, i think you has one free meadows for china in these olympics to gold, the latest coming in the half pipe one silver, a dominant performance really from her as she was so dominant that on a final run because she'd already want it. she could do a victory lap. so she just cruised down the half pipe, but she did say afterwards, she is exhausted. this last 2 weeks she said, have been full of highs and lows. let's not forget that other. she represents china . she was born in the united states. so she's been trying to keep both sides happy and you know, she got a,

a very strong reception again from the chinese fans in the snowboard venue in the venue. but, you know, she said she's tired, she's balancing not just competing. she's also remote, or she's got sponsorship deals. so she's just basically saying, look, i have to juggle everything. let's see where we are in 4 years time. johnson crane that thank you. you s air force pilot gale halverson, who became famous for his role in the berlin airlift as died at the age of 1013 years after he and fellow servicemen dropped bombs on the german capital. in the final stages of woodville to allison was part of efforts to keep berlin from starving during a soviet blockade of the city and became known as the candy boma. he was a beloved figure in postwar berlin and kept coming back for special events. gil halverson won berliners hearts for giving them candy when they didn't have much

of anything at all. halverson was a u. s. air force pilot during the berlin airlift from 1948 to 1949. when the soviets blockaded west berlin, the u. s. air lifted vital supplies to a city that it had been at war with only 3 years before. there did glide for the halverson himself. later said he had mixed feelings about the mission for shoot drop. but his attitude changed and he even started giving his own candy rations to children. eventually dropping the sweets by parachute from the air, got a picture of it. and i'm the one the startled. yeah. when they didn't bag i gave me little gum. i had to speak to them and they got so excited. i promised to draw it enough for everybody to this. and so i started dropping chocolate. american confectioners sent me all a county we could draw. and the berlin airlift helped change germans attitudes

toward the united states. there war time enemy halverson became a lifelong ambassador for german american friendship. his name will lavonne in a berlin park dedicated in his honor, and he shall be missed. you won't st dw news. let's return to our top story, the crisis in ukraine. the issue will be the main topic of this is unit security conference, which is about to begin. let's have a look at some alive pictures at that major strategic event gets on the way it's taking place for the 1st time. in decades, without a representative from russia. we'll be covering it live here on the w to do that. here the studio with me is our chief political correspond melinda crane. veteran off that conference you've coveted. i don't know 20 times. how often have you been that nearly 20 years? amazing. that is amazing. today with us of this, it was in the studio. thankfully. german book on issue, he's been

a store what of german security policy, if you will for many, many years. you've met him. he will open the conference in a few minutes. what's the tone that he will strike that? undoubtedly a tone of concern because certainly in all the time i've been attending this conference, the tensions have never been so high. and at the last a live version of the munich security conference in 20. 20. just before the pandemic hit, it did have a virtual iteration after that, but at the last live conference, the tensions were already such that mister itching, or who was a former german ambassador to the u. s. as well as heading up this very prestigious security conference said that in fact the main protagonist, we're only talking past each other. and he called on them to engage in real exchange. but frankly, that will be less possible this year than ever because the russian delegation,

as you've said, is not present. and that is certainly the 1st time in these nearly 20 years that i've been attending, that we will see no bilateral meetings at all in the framework of the conference because that's the whole of the whole thing. is it? absolutely it is. the fact is, most of the really important to action takes place behind the scenes in bilateral meetings, in closed door meetings, for example, this year, the german foreign minister, angelina burbock, will be hosting her g 7 foreign minister colleagues. germany is the head of the g 7 this year, and so in that capacity she will be holding a closed door meeting with them. also, of course, all about this crisis, but those kinds of meetings have been very, very important to keep the west and russia talking to each other. and you know, that i think is something that will be sorely, sorely missed this year. they'll certainly be talking a lot about russia,

but this time around not with russia. china also conspicuously missing from the line up there to russia and china on north. this is the west or can to itself, is to some degree, or there is a lot for the west to be discussing amongst its various members. not only the reaction of this particular crisis at this moment, and certainly that reaction includes not only the, the response that's already been planned over over weeks now about what to do if russia actually were to invade ukraine, but also very critical right now. what do nato, the u. s. and europe do, if there's a lower level russian interference in ukraine, whether that's some form of hybrid warfare, cyber. the kinds of things we're hearing right now with this attack on the kindergarten yesterday, where rush is saying this amounts to genocide. all of that, it will certainly be

a subjective discussion. but beyond that is the crucial question. what is the west's vision for europe going forward because it's all reactive, and it's all about containment. containment of russia often also containment of china. can the west come up with a pro active vision that goes beyond that? it's sometimes referred to as a new security architecture for europe, but it's beyond that as well. it would be a positive vision of where europe is heading. and certainly we've seen that emerge in the past. but i think for a, for a long time now, the west has been reactive and the title of this year's munich security conference is learned helplessness. and it goes to exactly that point. how can the west get out of a certain passivity and really become forward looking once again. so that will be

a crucial crucial topic to talk about the unity that is required. really in answering all these threats that they're talking about. i'm out to him on the bottom on that is pretty ruthless of the west doesn't have this. this ruthlessness are sometimes a thing too much. somebody like blood maple to, you know, it was quite interesting. clearly, vladimir putin was counting on the tensions and divisions within the west as part of his whole strategy. these a v ukraine and in the beginning it looked like some of those divisions were in fact problematic. and we both of course think about the chancellor schultz, the fact that many of the western allies criticized him for appearing to be missing in action. in the discussions about ukraine, that is no longer the case. germany has stepped up to the plate both through very

strong words by its foreign minister, including as she departed, to go to munich for the conference and also by chancellor schultz. he may not say the name, north stream to that famous pipeline that is supposed to be part of the package of sanctions. but he, nonetheless, this made it clear. there is no daylight between him and the other western allies. and i think to sum up the answer to your question, it's very much what we heard last sunday from the new old german president, frank felt a shy meyer who was re elected to a 2nd term last sunday. he said, plotting me putting mister president, do not under estimate the strength of democracies. they may not be ruthless. this is my words now his, when that was a quote from him, but they may not be ruthless, but when they are united and they are looking pretty united right now, then they have an enormous soft power strikes. and i think that is certainly also a message we'll be hearing here at the conference. let's come back to what you

mentioned, the role of germany here and, and chancellor shawl. so, as you mentioned, has been accused of being missing an action over this crisis for a long time than he went to keith than he went to moscow. still is germany pulling its way to you in this crisis. there are 2 aspects to go to the western response. one is diplomacy and everybody agrees that diplomacy is absolutely crucial and that includes the u. s. the u. s. is made it clear. they're not sending boots on the ground. they're not going to be sending troops to ukraine if there is a russian invasion. we've heard the u. s. a secretary of state again and again say dialogue is absolutely crucial. so that's not only germany's message, but where there had been doubts about germany. steadfastness was rather in the area of deterrence, some criticism from other partners that germany hadn't, for example,

sent defensive weapons to ukraine. there's a long history of germany reluctance to send those weapons. it's certainly open to criticism because german has a major arms dealer at the same time. but beyond that, germany has now made clear deterrent commitments. i'm thinking, for example, of the fact that it is sending additional troops to lithuania, where germany leads the nato battle group. there is the strongest presence amongst the partners, and certainly the lead european presence that's deterrence because the baltic republics, this is not only about ukraine. this is about what happens if russia pursues its demands that nato's eastward expansion be not only stopped but reversed. the bolton baltic republics feel very, very vulnerable in germany, is present in the baltics as part of a deterrent mission. so the answer to those who say do the germans get deterrence?

yes, to some degree they do. let's move on to the u. s. reaction to all this, do you think the by ministration, so far as done a good job in crisis management? here? i think it's been fascinating to watch, particularly the strategy in regard to information. they have collected vast amounts of evidence and they have made it very public. they've always been out one step ahead of the russians in terms of saying, this is what we think we're seeing. this is what we think is possible. this is what we need all need to be aware of or paying attention to if it were to happen, like those claims that genocide is being conducted in eastern ukraine claims made by the russians once again this week. so i think that strategy of information is fascinating. because it stands in direct contrast, if you think of anthony blinking yesterday in the un security council, and his very clear words saying, i'd loved to be proved wrong about the russian intentions and the possibility of an

invasion. this is not like 2003 where the us went to the security council with inadequate evidence and made very strong charges against iraq, which of course led to the iraq war. and by the way, one of the major confrontations in the run up to that war occurred at the munich security conference when the german foreign minister at the time jessica fisher said to the u. s. defense minister donald rumsfeld. mister secretary, i'm sorry, but i just don't buy it and that was precisely a charge that the u. s. hadn't prescript provided persuasive evidence that is entirely different in this case? and i think that is one of the reasons we've seen the west really come together with this real solidarity because the, the intelligence is indisputable. and i thank you very much so far. we're gonna talk a bit more that later on, but of course is singer is about to open them in

a security conference 2022 and less listening. dear friends of the music security conference, this is perhaps, i think the single most important conference during my 14 years. as chairman, we have seen our fair share of crises over the last decade or decade and a half from the economic crisis to the sudden eruption in the arab spring, the violent conflict in syria and libya, and then on to the illegal annexation of crimea. the conflict in don last and so on and so forth. we've seen turbulent times in the transit lending relationship and most recently, and currently we are witnessing a threatening,

military buildup in the western part of russia against ukraine. looking back, i sense that the crises we're dealing with have become and are continuing to become more intense and more numerous and all sorts of issues has become security issues. 20 years ago, it was a pretty straightforward decision that the security conference dealt with classic military political security issues. now we've had and i'm glad we did that. we've had to broaden our portfolio. we've started to discuss years ago global health, the impact of climate change becoming more important every year. the vulnerabilities that come with energy dependence and so many more

additional issues in the context of international security. the past year was not only shaped by the seemingly endless coat with 19 pandemic. we also witnessed severe floods, droughts, wildfires underlining the threat posed by an stop climate change. we watched a unfortunately rather chaotic withdrawal from if canister. and many new, many among us are worrying deeply about humanitarian emergencies, about $80000000.00 or so displaced persons refugees in many parts of the world. these crises of the past few years, feel like a rising tide of mutually reinforcing crises as data from our recently published munich, security report. just a few days ago,

we published it many feel helpless in the face of global events. and many don't believe that their political leaders can actually have a grip on the challenging challenges facing us. the danger which this report identifies is that this feeling of helplessness is becoming a kind of self fulfilling prophecy. this leads us to give up, even though we actually have all the tools and resources to address such dramatic challenges as the pandemic. as climate change, or as great power confrontations, we must not allow this to happen to us. these problems, as they say, are man made and if they are man made, they can be resolved by amendment. and that is why we call on everyone here to collectively,

quote unquote and learned helplessness. overcome helplessness. and this is all there also, the reason why i believe it is so important to have this in person unique security conference this year. we cannot just postpone world politics, security challenges, don't do social distancing. and therefore, more than happy to say that we finally managed to get all of you here again, many of you have come in for many years. even if, even if this setting is far from normal, i am extremely sorry, especially because this is my last year in the chair that we could only invite about one 3rd of the normal number of participants. we had to cut down on side events on extra meetings. there are no gala dinners or other social events. this is

a business event required by a pandemic regulations. some countries are not even represented this year for various reasons, but some of course, because of insufficient vaccination requirements, i offer a particularly more welcome to our cranium, guests, particularly to present zelinski himself as well as to our russian guess. i am very sorry to see that the russian government decided not to make use of the opportunity to explain the rational position in this hall today or tomorrow. but let me reiterate that. as far as the munich security conference is concerned,

our door of course remains open. we have always tried to make sure that all relevant points of view can be expressed and actually should be expressed at the meeting security conference. i brought to say that even under these extremely difficult, pandemic circumstances, we have once again a stellar lineup of speakers. and we of course have a lot on the plate. this year's conference is i repeat a business conference chance the chancellor. charlotte's when he was in moscow a few days ago, said it's our for dumpty felicia, it's our dan duty to work for the prevention of major board. well, let's get to work then. my young team, my wonderful team, has done everything in our collective power to provide you with the best possible

conference services under these difficult and dynamic circumstances. but the strict regulations we are complying with also mean that we could not rely on our rude usual routines. these strict regulations are there to protect you and you are against the virus. so please make yourself familiar with these unfamiliar rules. they apply to everyone, even to head of state or to foreign ministers. you need to register for events. if you want to go to one of the other side, events, or halls, one aspect i want to point out new particular is that we have a very limited number of places in each of the sessions. it is therefore, my request, my polite request to all of you, to register not to register for sessions which you do not intend to attend. because then you make

a seat available to somebody else. let's make the most of the limited places that we can offer. finally, i want to use this opportunity to thank my really wonderful team. lead for a decade or more now by benedict fund. it has grown from less than a handful of people in, in 2008 to a professional staff. now about 80, mostly still very young men and women. they now organize more than a dozen events. each year write reports and tried to offer contributions to a more informed, national and international debate on security policy. they even made new exciting formats possible such as town hall meetings and so called

conversations, which are some of you will experience going forward today, tomorrow and sunday i am proud of this team and i'm particularly proud of this team because as i just said, this is the last time i am chairing this event, my friend and colleague cust of hosting long time national security advisor to chancellor miracle. and more recently our perm rep to the united nations will take over starting this weekend. so you have a lot of work ahead for, for yourself christoph, please get up and say, hello, a both boys go home and my vice chair and best of boys will good will help will help me and help others moderate some of the sessions over the next 2 and

a half days. i would also like to thank all those who make this conference possible in terms of the logistics and the infrastructure. we are again, it is wonderful hall of the buyer shelf, which reminds me also to thank the federal government, the free state of bavaria, and the city of munich for they are perfect co operation in sitting all of these up . and i just want to briefly mention at least one or 2 of our logistical partners among them. ecolog for the testing. among them b, m, w for the driving people around and for our host broadcast of bio show info. who will make sure that people around the world can follow these proceedings? a very warm welcome to all of you. again. i hope that we're going to have a weekend of thought provoking discussions. and it would be

my best in for these 14 years. if i could think in a few months that out of munich, came some good ideas that would help to de escalate. would we regard currently as a really threatening international crisis. thank you very much. and now we're going to have our own opening session you know, i personally, i started my professional career as a very junior officer on the 38th floor of the u. n. building in new york. that was a long time ago. so i know a little bit what i'm talking about when i say that the u. n. is still the centerpiece and should continue to be the centerpiece of the international system.

and it is of enormous importance for us if we think about how best to promote global solutions and to meet global challenges i. it gives me enormous pleasure. and i have this wonderful privilege to welcome the secretary general of the united nations. antonio could terrace back to munich. dear mister secretary, general dear, i'm telling you i'm very pleased that you agreed to share your perspectives on how the international community can possibly turn the tide after your presentation. we will have, i hope, time for a few questions. for a brief discussion, the floor, the stage is yours,

mister secretary general. when and best of the engine before i start. let me express in these last for your conference that the express my enormous gratitude and appreciation for auth has been a remarkable contribution for international dialogue for peace and security and the okay stuff. i hope you'll invite me. exxon says, ladies and gentlemen, it is a pleasure to be back in munich for the 1st time in the city years. and then fortunately, the world has grown even more complex and dangerous during that time. i see 5 major reasons. first, geopolitical divides, have continued to grow and deepen. these divides often paralyze

a security council and create an environment of immunity in which states and non state tacked them believe they can do whatever they want. i am often asked whether we are in a new called wash. my answer is that the set of to global security now is more complex and probably higher than at that time. during much of the cold war, there were mechanisms that enabled the protagonists to calculate risks and use beck channels to put events crisis to they. many of those systems no longer exists, and most of the people trained to use them are no longer here with us. so miscommunication and miscalculation can make a minor incident between powers escalate out of control causing incalculable arm with a concentration of russian forces that on ukraine i am deeply concerned about heights

intentions and increase speculation about a military conflict in europe. i still sing, it will not happen, but if it did, it would be catastrophic. there is no alternatives to diplomacy. all issues, including the most inflexible must be addressed. so diplomatic frameworks and it is high time to seriously deescalate the united united methodist church. a 3rd, a fundamental bill of international law clearly says, and i quote, all members shall circle that international disputes by peaceful means. in such a matter that international peace and security and justice are not endangered. all members shall refrain in that international relations from the threats or to use of force against the 3rd. he thought heal, integrity,

or political independence of any states or in any other men at inconsistent with the purposes of the united nations. the charter is clear and they also urge all parties to be extremely careful with their rhetoric, public statements to them to lead, use them since not to inflate them. and the united nations and the united nation system that he made fully operational in ukraine, including already meditating work in the don ask, and the ones regions. and i like to express my gratitude to the corporation we have with the ukranian government in these regards. excellencies geopolitical divides that are in salt, but they can and must be managed and the new agenda for peace proposed in my recent, our common agenda report should advance efforts towards more effective collective

security responses. respect for international law, trust, building and dialogue and betterments. second, crisis up only for 18. conflicts that increasingly internationalize with the involvement of regional and global powers in yemen and libya, regional rivalries are firmly embedded in the civil wars. and that the same time, kaiser more fragmented multiple actors operating moves and rapidly shifting coalitions. we leave for the genders, the widespread failure by states to deliver the central services and the respond to the expectations of that people is also giving rise to intentions and social and rest. coos used to happen once every couple of years. in 2022. it's once every couple of weeks. and these developments i've also symptom and the cause of the increased then predictability in for the agility of the global

landscape. serve the strength of global data looms over the world. im celia there, she's using children as human shields, al qaeda and its affiliates are regaining great power to cause arm the risks of terrorists spillover. although i've got a stand as well as the alarming spread of fairly as mean some african countries show. oh, and the terrorists are and exploiting follow vacuums and subverting fragile states . in the african context, we need the robust, african beast enforcement and counter terrorist operations. mandated by the well security policy. linda chapter 7 of the charter and which stable and predictable funding. the present situation is unsustainable. extremism and terrorism flores, she's well that is poverty, hunger, inequality, and injustice. and the sustainable development goals remain our greatest prevention

tools. excellencies force. these factors that exist abated by non, for the additional security threats, but i'm only increased then equality, the climate crisis, and the coffee, the 19 pandemic, discrimination exclusion. and they can, army, can, social, and cultural qualities are exacting a devastating tall and creating a tooth risk of violence and conflict. the coffee of 19 pandemic. as i lighted the inadequacy and moral bankruptcy of our global financial system, which has increased the systemic inequality between north and south. many countries in the global south f suffered devastating economic losses during the pandemic, and many of them still need vex yes. governments face that defaults and financial ruin while they are people face poverty and employment, hunger and the spanish. meanwhile,

the climate crisis is out of control causing increased devastation that will lead to record levels of force these placement. and these schools further the stabilize entire regions. i had all countries to step up support for global solutions to these non traditional security threats, including the full implementation of the fed is the agreement on climate change to keep $1.00 degrees alive and the risks to be dying very soon. the welto, organize all the forgotten zation global vaccination strategy and urgent reforms to the global financial system to enable developing countries to accessories sources needed to support their people. essence is chiefs and finally, digital technology is creating ever more dangerous ways for groups of people to harm each other from cyber attacks, to artificial intelligence, assisted weapons, many wars are here,

but it's fought both on the battlefields and online digital communications enabled propaganda and conspiracy theories. to spread like wildfire, us 8 speech and racism as fuel to the flames. the proposed the global digital compact that i presented aims to find collective solutions that enable the safer development of digital technology. and brain gets the benefits to all. and i've also called for a global code of conduct that promotes integrity in public information. large scale does information that undermine scientifically established facts is a massive security risk. we haven't, so you need the better global governance. and this is a key objective everywhere in summits of the future. next theater essence is all these threats with human rights and democracy. at serious risk, we need a search in the plumbers. he for bees,

a surge in political will for peace. and the search in investment for peace and i count on your leadership to make it happen. thank you. thank you. so this is on. thank you so much mr. secretary general. for this presentation, starting our 2 and a half days of discussing global challenges earn as i tried to say earlier. and as you repeated more forcefully, we are witnessing more conflicts, more human suffering, more refugees, more global challenges on what needs to happen. if i

can put it that way, what needs to happen from your point of view as the, the executive head of the united nations, and what needs to happen for the un to regain the power to handle these crises more efficiently? is it a matter of the great powers, or is it, is it a matter of lack of unity or discord in the security council? or where's the problem? i think they have many problems at the same time. and obviously, a key aggravates are in recent times as being the fact that to the main powers are totally at odds with each other. that makes clear that there are serious divisions, divisions in relation to political systems division, ration to human rights, delusions, divisions in relation to even a cultural approach to today's world. but what is lacking is the capacity to, of course, of the confrontations that are needed,

where they're the visions exists. but at the same time, established the seat is dialogue in relation to the questions in which corporation is essential. and that is what i think is possible, and that is what is lacking. i mean, if you look at the united states and china are, i mean it's clear that that is no chance to have an agreement on human rights is clear. there is no chance of an agreement on some geostrategic problems in the neighborhood of china. but there are common interests in climate and there is a need for the seat is negotiation in relation to trade and technology obviously does that cost nation. many things will be possible to reach an agreement and others, it will not be possible, but at least there must be a serious discussion on the problems if affect us all. and the fact that doesn't exist is quite for the magic because in climate change, we are not winning the race. we are losing the race. there was a naive optimism after glasgow. there are no reasons for his life optimism. the

risk is that the emissions will go on rising and till 2030 instead of decreasing. and the central question, which was the relation between developed countries and the lodge, the emerging economies, that central question was not soft and it needs to be solved. and it's possible to be solved with coalitions to allow those emerging economies to accelerate their transition. because if they don't look at china, look at india, look at these countries. if they don't, is no way developed. countries alone can bridge the gap. and then the question of defend amex, i mean the world was completely n remains completely these united english and weapon damage. we don't have any common system of prevention and we don't any common system and response. and i mean that, well that's organization has no authority met. it cannot not even get in tea that the informations that are needed to prevent and response out available. he has no

power to get them as we have seen. and he has no power to coordinate a number of actions by members. let's look at vaccines. we started by vaccine hoarding. then we moved into vaccine. national is now vaccine diplomacy. but the fact is that the saxons go are not being available for the african continent. and large group of other other countries. so we need to improve our governance mechanisms. and that is why i have just appointed as stephan lufkin and the alan johnson said leave to leave a group of that i level panel to look into what that the gaps of governance that exists in our worlds. and now can we address those gaps of governance in order to be able to address the global problems that we have and for which we are not at thought united and not at all in solidarity to address. and i think that climate change is becoming too serious. i think our incapacity to deal

with and their mix. if something comes much more little than the the, the coffins we are dooms. and i think that our capacity to manage security problems and terrorism on the world is severely in the mind by the lack of capacity to have a security counseling working and to, to make sure that the present state of impunity ends with the secretary general. one of the difficult challenges that have been debated in the german parliament bundis dark recently which are debated in our media is what if anything we can do we germans with the french or with others in the sy hale region. and my impression is that we are about to determine that ongoing

efforts, french effort, german efforts are coming to an end because people are realizing it's not leading to any visible outcome any time soon. so what would be your prescription? what should we, as europeans, what should the international community do in order to prevent and even greater breakdown of order a further increase of terrorism, which would only lead to it. and yet another cycle of, of poverty and, and radicalism in this very important part of the world to sell. it is clear that to address terrorism effectively, we needs a component of city, thy mansions. when demand genies, of course,

a military security could i mention. and let's be honest, if one looks at the sale, the present security mechanisms that we have available in the sale are unable to deal with the terrorist groups. and they are expanding and reaching out now to the countries of the coasts, which is an enormous danger for the region. and we the potentially the nomadic impacts in europe. so we need to have fighting terrorism robust forces able to deal with them. and we have seen what happened in mozambique when the mozambique an army practically fled. but when the ruined these came, the ruin this, with 1000 men were able to, or at least stop the offensive, which means we need the robust forces. but for that, and these cannot be done with peacekeeping. these need to be done with this and forcing and counterterrorism. and for that we need the, as we have the in the balkans partners in this case in ethnic african union. but with

a clear man that that no doesn't exist. chapter 7 of 67 and assessed contributions guarantee financing them 2nd dimension. in many of those areas, we need to address the gaps in development. we need to address the suffering of people. i mean the sale, the combination of the climate change of a traditional level of the market demography. i mean these needs to be addressed comprehensively. so different mechanisms of international cooperation and the when system is of course ready to support with world bank with the other international financial institutions and with member states to see how we can support these areas in a much more effective way. and then there is a problem governance, i mean, and in many of these countries we have violations of human rights. we have been governance, we have corruption. and we need to be also clear when dealing with these governments that they need to change her. because obviously with bab governors,

it's easy for terrorists to recruit and to be effective. mr. secretary general a, a brief final question because we're running out of time when you last visited beijing, china, you requested for a suv just issued into the w news conference room unit security conference live with just kicked off. you want to investigate the head of the rest of your to conference, you up to book an interview, antonio terrace. a just spoken with me here. the studio is our political correspondent, melinda crane. we both have listened to, especially the speech by, by good terms, which i have found very interesting. and i would like to ask you heat . that was a pretty bleak picture that you terrace painted. they started off with thing that

saying that geopolitical divines have increased the security council is now paralyzed. that is pretty bleak, isn't it? yes, and in fact, he went on to say, in his opinion, the risks and threats because of that situation, the intensifying geopolitical divisions essentially are more dangerous even than during the cold war. he said he's often asked whether that is the case and he said he thinks it is because during the cold war mechanisms back channels as they call it. so, you know, the famous red fo, and so on, were in place to ensure that the 2 sides still would talk to each other before a crisis escalated. and he said those mechanisms are not in place right now. he did say there are, there are things that we can do. the geopolitical divide cannot be solved. and when he says geopolitical divide, he of course means the tension between the west and russia,

but also the increasing tension between the west and china. they cannot necessarily be solved, but they can be managed, he said, and he talked about the need for trust building the need for respect for international law. the need for dialogue. but he was very, very forthright in his statements about the lack of respect for international law, for example, the fact that chapter 7 of the united nations charter, which prevents the use of force that that is really at risk. and he also said part of the bleak picture, that in his view, the paris climate treaty is close to dying because nations art art fulfilling their obligations under the treaty. so a very serious picture also presented by both conditioners, injure, who said, in 14 years of chairing this conference, he has never seen a level of tension like the one today. speaking of issues, he,

when he started to talk to get her after his speech issue and said that, that it would be time for the united nations to regain the power. did it ever have the part that it would need to resolve a crisis that we're seeing around ukraine right now? the united nations has often faced a, particularly in the security council. tensions that made it very difficult for the counsel to act. but there have been cases along the way since the creation of the united nations in which it did act in which it did pass resolutions that essentially were the basis for international action. and with that certainly does not seem to be the case today. as the secretary general said, this is this created a crisis of impunity where nations can essentially act out their power drives

without having to answer in the council is spent the last august. actually the conference is going on with my son. mister hoist, who said to retake pleasure over you under from my wife kung is sheena next year's head of the security conference? let us know invitation. of course, it has to do with you personally, but it has to do with the united nations because there is no more more important international organization, global organization than the united states with united nations. there is no. there is no way. there is no way we can come to the united states in a 2nd. there is no way that we can be able to resolve the most important global challenges without the united nations. you talked about climate change. there is no way that we can do this individually. we need the un when you talk about buyer diversity. we can only do this together when we talk,

we saw this on the health issue. there is no way individual countries can resolve that. so we have to work together and they do some gentlemen, this is the 1st panel that i moderate. and for me it is kind of symbolic to have it a panel with the foreign ministers of germany and the foreign minister, secular state of the united states. when we go back to the foundation of the munich security conference, when we go back to the 1st chairman of the unit security conference, it was evolved from placed a vote from place and created this. and the 1st meetings, the 1st years were exclusively german american trans. atlantic meetings, and for me it's kind of symbolic to go back to the roots and welcome to day on this stage, the foreign minister of germany and the secretary state of the united states. please extend

a warm welcome to the 2 persona. we will proceed the following. way 1st and the german foreign minister will give her speech. she will give her speech in german, so please get ready to take your headphones. and then afterwards, we'll have a pendant debate in english on the stage while you are getting your headphones ready, it is my pleasure to introduce foreign minister and in a fair book it is after we had in germany it 1st female chancellor. it is now very special and i'm very happy to introduce to you the 1st german female

foreign minister, and i'll be about you have the floor and thank you for being with that i have jumped on my skin and batted her eyes again. mister issue, no. secretary general and tony lincoln, ladies and gentlemen, i mean, i'm very happy a well, i'm very happy to be able to talk to you to kick off the panel on an motto, on learning helplessness meeting level challenges just a few days ago. i was right there. labor didn't skirt at the line of contact in the

eastern part of the ukraine. i was standing there right next to me. there was a school yard and a destroyed house in my back. and every single moment i was thinking of my children who actually would go to school right now in the morning, you know, very hectic lee. and i was watching the children who were not able to do that. here they were not able to go to their school just like that. quite on the contrary, they had to face a huge concern because violence is omnipresent there. and how real, this kind of concern is, becomes very clear. when we hear that yesterday, they have been hundreds of infringement of the seas fire. and so in such a situation, it's such a place, you wouldn't even think of a piece for everyday life for your children. and this shows what really is at stake when we're talking about means it's not only a negotiation format. minsk is not

a technical notion either. we're talking about human security. we're talking about safety, about whether or not people, families, children, can live their lives safely and grew up safely in the middle of europe. today, we have to be very clear about that. there's a new war impending right in the middle of europe, russia, issues, and absolutely any to board threat with their troops beyond the these of either ukraine, but also of ease of use, all of us now a peace architecture in europe. and therefore, this crisis line is therefore no ukraine crisis. we have to be very careful about our framing. it's a rougher crisis and i have was land and we therefore, urgently appeal to russia to draw down their true immediately the indian. i mean, the, we've seen the 1st signals that time and again, and we've seen this happening in the past. you 1st signor's were

a glimmer of hope. but now we need to see some ad friendly because the russian threat continues to be a real one in mind. but our joint response is just as real can, if there were a russian attack on ukraine, then this would have massive consequences for russia who had financially, politically and economically. and like, we have weird is another message to moscow that is just as clear. we don't want to have it. we don't want to have to draw this consequence is we want to have a serious dialogue on security and piece together in europe. that is in the interest of all of us. and yes, i mean, we also want to minimize the risk of escalation in europe. i mean, what else would we want to? yes, we also want to create reliability. and that is why exactly we have worked on substantial proposals in the last few weeks asked me to states they are on the table in moscow

. and every single time we can every mit single minute. we want to talk about these now. but what we do not want to see and what we cannot do is to challenge our architecture security that we filled up together. i think yesterday's response letter from the russian side. unfortunately, however, very much sounds like that. eventually, precedent, protein sac leverage higher in your response letter. you underline that non alignment also includes the principle that security must not be at the expense of others. yes, that is what we have agreed to together. and we together have agreed to this being a joint security that must not be at the expense of others. and this us, this is what we expressly are committed to it. but that is the very reason why we

have to talk about the troops build up at the border in the eastern part of ukraine, which of course, is at the expense of security in ukraine when on the 30000 troops at the border. i mean, you mind what else could this be if not a threat. i love those who want to live any security and safety together do not fred each other. if you want to live in security and safety, then you go to the negotiation table and talk to each other law and sean holt. and you have to be very honest here. tony blinking and i and many other foreign ministers, also ministers of defense deployments. here in this room. we are asked time and again, i mean it's been going on for like one week. how long is this going to take? it might be taking weeks, months, negotiations usually are a marathon. there are setbacks, misunderstandings, there might even some power play in there. but if you are afraid of starting this raise in this run,

then he would or you don't start working and you floss out from the very beginning . helsinki or charter? this is how timothy got a government timothy, gotten asha historian as described, our choice. that is the choice we have. europeans are faced with the choice between a system of joint responsibility for security. anything peas that is based on the helsinki founding. and then will perry's charter that we all are assigned or a system of power rivalry, and says of influenza event for which the yalta conference of 1945 was standing on it. and for me, and i believe for every single one in this room, this is the key question, because what is an issue for us? europeans and the international community is that is not just a question how we are going to resolve the current crisis. it is the question of how we're going to stand up for our rural space order in the future. i think an ordered and is based on

a quarter of the united nations on the principles of self determination, the respect, the freedom and, and human rights and the principle of international cooperation. i think that that was especially described by the a you and so generally. so vividly does this principle still work, and this is the question that will be dealt with in this conference, or are we living in an age of collective helplessness? the resignation and hopelessness as a target is the motto of this panel. tony blinking the 2 of us, so having numerous talk these days. but what makes me optimistic in these difficult times is that the knowledge of the strength of our transatlantic union and the solidity of our lions, and the strength of our liberal democracy is. and that is why my,

on my response is very clear. when i'm being asked where we are right now, whether we're helpless or not, we are not helpless collectively. quite on the contrary, we draw our strings from our action mine from our acting together. we are the ones to decide whether or not we're helpless, elemental, then we can chide, as far as i'm concerned to 3 elements are key point, determination, solidarity and reliability. this applies to the rush crisis, but also beyond and lots of indiana. we are determined with a view to the actions and measures that we are preparing in the event of russia, acting against the ukraine, these sanctions, and would be unprecedented and have been coordinated with all our partners and have been prepared with them. we did in germany already to pay

a high price for their dinner economic terms. that is why all options are on the table or to north stream to really data. cynthia idea, we show solidarity because we have the support and are committed to the territorial integrity and sovereignty of ukraine. and i'm being very clear, especially in situations of pressure, like the solidarity means to send out a clear message because the route that a country would like to embark on as can only be determined by the country itself and by the people living there. we are not going to negotiate over the head of ukraine. solidarity means that we take the concerns of our neighbors in central and eastern europeans. seriously. that is why we're strengthening our native commitment together. solidarity also means however, that's are important to me because foreign policy is not just some kind of policy between politicians not just traveling forwards and backwards between the capital

of countries. foreign policy is about the people our people, and that is why solidarity means in the current situation, not just showing solidarity with keith, but also with the people in your crane. and especially with the people that live close to the line of contact. and here i see is decisive because there is our eyes and is there, we have to ensure together that they can effectively do their job, especially now with violence along the line of context has dramatically increase over the past 48 hours yet. i know this is one of the most dangerous moments where when provocation and disinformation might turn into escalation, i'm being very clear here. this is a game that we're not going to play quite on the contrary. with all our efforts, we work on finding constructive solutions from the cross. the crisis in the normandy format, in the unit,

and in nato. every step in the direction of peace is laborious. we're fighting for every single millimeter, but every millimeter is better than no movement at all. and this brings me to my 3rd point, reliability in foreign policy that is based on clear value. so, you know, it is what is at stake, hold the people in your crane is their right of freedom, their right to determine their own future. and for all of us, what is at stake is nothing less than piece in europe. and the question whether or not we're going to defend our rules based order, even if it comes to the crunch. we live in a world in way in which this rules based order is not just coming under pressure in eastern europe. we're faced with growing till political tensions with a competition between authoritarian forces and liberal democracies. we see and

realized that if we withdraw from this competition as liberal democracies than others are going to feel these gaps, we can see that with private, the groups of mercenaries all with a view of the larger infrastructure project in africa. but we've also been seeing that in europe, in the u, when we left a gap in terms of solitaire solidarity when it was about investing in power grids, motor ways, or digital infrastructure. and we even saw that even more strongly at the beginning of this pandemic when it was about the distribution of vaccines. if others interfere than this will not happen for altruistic motives. but this will be based on who g, a strategic calculation. that is why as far as i'm concerned, we as liberal democracy is, have to be a part of this competition between the liberal forces and authoritarian

forces. we have to clearly walk the talk and show for to lease then for the joint recovery after condemning what has been summarized by the you as president vine, and also the united nations under this wonderful label of build back better. what has been defined there old. so spelled out a huge over for all of us for the international, for international corporation to really do it right when exiting from this crisis, if they had to invest in a solution for the ukraine crisis to invest together in infrastructure, but also to invest together in finding a way out of this pandemic, and that is why the german g 70 presidency that we're holding this year old. so we'll focus on this tomato. we're going to show what our values are. we show that international corporation is stronger than national solo efforts. and we show that an order on the basis of international law, of

a fair co existence and togetherness of democracy and human rights will bring more than shutting me. i'm sleep orders down and then bringing in the borders internationally. and this also includes women's rights and me being the 1st female foreign minister after 150 years. this also means that the women's rights have to be brought in here because women's rights are the yardstick for the condition of democracy. we're seeing that worldwide. that's why i'm saying that as a german, as a european woman, we're not just seeing that in other countries. we've also seen that in our country during the pandemic. i mean conjuring up the image of the strong man very often is not the most successful route. and we're seeing worldwide in that country up the

strong man actually goes hand in hand with the increase of for re, terry and forces and a reduction of democratic rights. and this is something one inside that i brought back home when i was on the line of contact because the mother said only if women are safe, every one. this little buying house for that is our task. and that is why i am convinced that our global challenge is like the climate crisis fighting the pandemic will not be manageable for a single country alone. we can also only resolve this crisis together with a clear competitive values. we have to be aware of that. yeah, we are right in the middle of a difficult crisis, especially in europe being trans atlantic parties. after this crisis, the world will be a different one and it's now up to us. it's in our hands. this is to our, to see dand up for

a piece and writes here in europe. thank you very much on for views and just joined us right now. you're watching t w's live, a coverage of the munich security conference, which just saw a speech by german foreign minister. on a lena bear book, i, which he mainly, of course, addressed the current crisis between ukraine and a russia. and i believe now we are hearing from the u. s. secretary of state, actually lincoln as well as mr. border for introducing b panel. we're to to foreign ministers. let's have a listening talk about the role with number of women on our panels ever. we are at 45 percent and then i pledge to you that next year we arrive at 50 percent. is

the secretary thank you so much for being here. i know you are extremely busy. let me allow me to start with a compliment. i've been following us administrations for many, many years. i have not seen an example like this one where the u. s. administration has reached out has reached out in coordinating its position with its european allies in the u, with nato, with allies beyond this. and them, and i found this very, very impressive. and in talking about ukraine, i was, and they before yesterday in a conference with the former prime minister of ukraine. our seni yasenya, who said, what we are witnessing here is the best, the most successful peacekeeping operation. and that is to be together. now my question to you is in 1st do you think? and the minister talked about all the global challenges that we have, that this scheme, which of course is

a lot of work. the present is involved. you involved the defense in as coordinating, could that be an example for the future that we cope with all the challenges that the minister also mentioned in the same way in this way of as president bush junior, said it, and partnership in leadership, number one and number 2, and where do you think we stand with ukraine? i think this is what and what people everybody want to know. minister talked about what we hear at the contact land. there were days where there was no incident at all. all of a sudden we see this increase. what do you see? i recall 2014, and that was the end of the olympics. and a few days or weeks later, we saw these little green men entering into, into invading ukraine. where is the 2nd to do you think we stand right now?

well 1st let me just start by saying what an absolute pleasure it is to be here to be with all of you, especially to be with my friend and colleague and alina and also christoph wolfgang, this must be the equivalent of an olympic relay team to go from wolfgang to christoph doesn't get any better than that. so it's wonderful to be with you. i to start with the 1st part, i really start where elena left off because we have exactly the same perspective. and it's the perspective that president biden brings to everything we're doing that we've tried to do in our, in our 1st year. it's a very simple conviction. it's the conviction that there is not a single challenge of consequences actually affecting the lives of our people. that we can effectively deal with, along, even for the united states with the power that we have, the resources that we have, we have to be doing it in,

in partnership. and it's an obvious proposition 2 to many, but it's no less important for being obvious. when it comes to climate, even if we did everything right in the united states, we're 15 percent of global emissions. so by definition, we have to find a way to deal with the other 85 percent that requires collaboration, working with others playing our part on cove. it. we all know the truism that no one is safe until everyone's safe. i'm a cron has reminded us of that if we need to reminding and so we have to find ways to do this together. we were just a few days ago together on a video conference with some of our colleagues, because i think we both feel at this point, that we have to do more to mobilize, coordinated, collective action to really finally get ahead of cove it and to get where we need to be at the end of the year, which is 70 percent of the world vaccinated on emerging technologies that are shaping everyone's life. again, even if we did everything just right somehow in the united states, by definition, these technologies surpass quarters, we have to find ways to set rules,

norms and standards together. so that is our fundamental proposition, and it's exactly why percent we have invested so much of our own effort in the 1st year that we've been in office in reinvigorated, revitalizing our alliances, our partnerships are investing the time the effort. because without that we won't succeed. and i've been so grateful because when it comes to the partnership here, germany is our partner, 1st resort on everything we have. there's not an issue where we have not been working closely together and it, it's, and it's, it's beyond words, it's truly invaluable on ukraine. ah, i had a chance to speak to this little bit yesterday at the united nations of the security council before coming here. and i,

even as we are doing everything we possibly can, to make clear that there's a diplomatic path that this has to be resolved, the differences have to be resolved through dialogue through diplomacy. we are deeply concerned that that is not the path that rushes embarked on, and that everything that we're seeing, including what you've described in the last 20 for 48 hours, is part of a scenario that is already in place of creating false provocations. then having to respond to those provocations and then ultimately committing new aggression against ukraine. i think is very important for us to shine a light on what we see perhaps that will move russia to a different path. we remain fully prepared. both of us with our colleagues to engage on the diplomacy, but we have to be, i think,

informed by history you reference 20141 could reference 2008 as well and georgia. and we have to be informed by the facts. and the facts are that despite what russia is said in recent days, about pulling back courses from the border that has not happened. on the contrary, we see additional force is going to the border, including leading edge forces that would be part of any aggression. so we have to be informed by that we have to be extremely vigilant and i'll finish with this. the single greatest source of strength that we have in dealing with this issue in dealing with this challenge is the solidarity that i don't like to talk about. i think president putin's been a little bit surprised at that solidarity at the way that nato has come together. the european union is come together. we come together, individually, as partners, we come together institutionally. as long as we maintain that solidarity, we will either way, whichever path president putin chooses,

will be ready to respond. thank you. thank you very much. this is a polio and we have so many people around here and one to contribute ask a question. so i invite you to do that. you can either raise your hand or, or, and go also bye bye digital a. notice before i go to the, to see a question there, can i minister a and your, what can i ask you a question? which is it in the public these let a days and this is the question of delivery of weapons to, to ukraine. you mentioned the when you mentioned the human dimension and from what you say,

no present tire for lengthy. go went to tier 2 up in jar. we're in the name of germany. 80 years ago within 2 days 33000 jewish ukrainians for massacred by germany. and of course, we say we never want to put arms against russia for use of our history, et cetera. but when you see that russia is attacking ukraine, country that has really severely been hit over history again is fighting for existence. we sent an el milan messiah to the kurtz, and in an air bill in the area. why can't we also sent defensive weapons to, to ukraine? because i think you always have to have in mind when you take a suit decision that either way, if you say yes or no,

it has consequences. and if you balance the consequences, we believe that at this moment it is not the moment to change our cause. by 180 percent degrees because we are not all the same, even though we are standing side by side. we have different roles and we have different history. and when i was in ukraine, i said, we have for historic responsibility, which i didn't mean only with regard to russia. definitely you were mentioning it also to your train. but because out of our history, we have a different responsibility for securing international peace than others. if we are looking at poland, if we are looking at france, there have been attacked by us like for the soviet union countries. and therefore our responsibility after the 2nd world war was that never again from germany,

there will be war and never again. there will be genocide, you know, the famous formula from one of my former colleagues as a foreign minister. and that's why i'm making this curve here to show that we're thinking a lot about this. but that's why we have a very restrictive arms control legislation because of our history. we have this legislation that we are saying we are not selling weapons to everybody in the world, but only to our partners nature partners and european union partners. and that we have also clause where the weapons go afterwards. and if we would change this now also if we are talking about this famous how beats and i had to learn actually, or what 30 year old, how beats, and actually can do or what they can not do anymore. but anyhow, if he changed his course, we have to argue it. and i think at this moment where i'm say that we are doing everything for dialogue. where i,

as the german foreign minister together was my chance lies doing everything that we are getting on the table of the normal deformity. it's france is to germany. it's ukraine and it's russia. this is the moment where i do everything for dialogue. but others with the others role they are having and this is our strengths that we are standing like all together, but using our different roles of support with regard to have different histories. so the u. s. is having a different lesson with regard to arms export. but i'm, for example, giving most financial aid we had the biggest donor in ukraine to stabilize the economy. and if we're putting all this together, this is our strengths at the moment. and that's why i truly believe that this course is right, united in diversity. it's all a great motto of the european union, and this is what we are showing at the moment. also in solidarity was ukraine. thank you. thank. can i can,

i just got one thing to this because i know it is exactly right. we have been not only acting in a, in a coordinated way, we've been acting in a complementary way, bringing different things out to the table that all add up to the solidarity that has been very effective. and i want to add one other element from germany, and alina have been speaking with tremendous moral clarity when it comes to ukraine, that is vitally important to invite. you can't really place a value on that. it's essential to what we're doing. thank you. thank you very much . one who can see this trends? land unity, this is what we need this state. yes, please. if you not, everybody knows who if you would be so kind to introduce yourself and then we go you're going to hold. okay, thank you. a member upon it from united kingdom and chairs, the defense committee. thank you very much. indeed. i just returned from ukraine

and there's certainly a concern about the immediate threat. i could, i ask whether it is we are hiding behind this rule that simply because a member or friend is not a member of nato, that there's a limit as to what we should do in ukraine. they would see granite securities, europe insecurity. and i think i would agree with that, i could add as a, not a big picture that we now need to wake up to. that the reason why we're seeing rushes adventures is because of a new alliance, a dangerous alliance is forming between russia and china. and that's actually lady to russia's increase adventuresome. bowles, indeed, even welcoming sanctions, knowing that putin can persuade his own people. maybe the future of russia is not pointing to the west as it has been traditionally, but to move to the east with china, which would, i think, be the admin a turning point. joe, politically, of a very dangerous era. thank you. well,

i totally agree on what you have been saying, sir, that it is dangerous if we can see the alliance there between those 2 countries. but what and tony was saying beforehand, i mean, there's also not only an alliance, but there's a strength between you members. and as you know from the past, it's not always easy in the european union tube agree on different topics like altogether by unity. but at this moment, we are doing this by 27 states, and this is also the difference then to 2014. if we remember 2014. when crimea was invaded when this separatist took over in eastern ukraine. i mean, there wasn't this solidarity and this is new at the moment. so i think we should not always look that others are bonding, but also how big are things that we are bonding old. so it was regarded to nature.

we are on the same page or we have written the same letter all together. and this is also why we get the grease crest. well, we want individual, let us know. this is our common trans atlantic anchor. and with regard to the economic sanctions, yes, i mean we all know the figures we also know are also with regard to financial flows . however, i mean, if you have this scenario being totally cut off by economic exchange between russia and germany and russia and the you, i mean, this is not nothing. and i would also underline, because we're always talking about russia, but it's the russian government, 70 to 70 percent of the russian people. and this is also different than in 2014. their biggest fear is war war with ukraine, and this is also why we are saying he has our hand to all the citizens of russia. he has all a hand to all the political prisoners in russia. he has our hand to memorial and

all the others in russia because we want to live together in peace. and this is what we have to on the line with a clear message on sanction, but also was a clear message on dialog. hi, i can only add that i'm in violent agreement with my friend colleague, book up russia and china together are right now less than 20 percent of rural gdp. the united states europe together, 45 percent of gdp when we bring in some of our democratic partners from asia, japan, korea, australia, others were well over 50 percent of rural g d p. that is a very powerful wait. one is acting in unison, and increasingly we are the convergence around a determination not to, in the case of china, hold it back, not to be opposed to russia for the sake of opposing russia, but to uphold something that brings us all together,

which is this liberal international order that increasingly is bringing us together . and when we're acting in unison, i'll take our side any time. did i see why it's blue? please take their poa and then i'd be delighted to be for it fits. timothy. got him at oxford university. and i didn't use your pin to foreign minister barbara, and precisely if we want to consistently to pursue helsinki against yamaha in change circumstances, do we need a new german of european aust quality? and if yes, what would it's 2 or 3 key features?

b and to secretary blink. hm. how do we preserve that and west and unity and solidarity? if to t in doesn't do the invasion, doesn't do even to coin a phrase harshly put it a small and curse. not a single russian soldier, crosses the frontiers. bah, massive hybrid military technical means replied cyber attacks, recognition of you've done it is can lebrans states it? how do we preserve west and unity in that event? i think that what we've done over the last year is build a very solid foundation and strong foundation when it comes to, to western unity across a whole range of challenges that we're facing. and we've rediscovered habits of co operation of coordination. and as i'm seeing it,

at least there is increasing convergence on most of the central issues of our time. and i am convinced that irrespective of what russia does with regard to ukraine in the weeks ahead, whether it is a full on invasion, whether it's something shorter or that we will retain that solidarity. but it doesn't happen by itself. it's the product of constant day in day up roll up your sleeves engagement that we have been engaged in that we'll continue irrespective of what happens over the next week. so it takes work, it takes effort. but i really think the last months, in particular, have concentrated minds in a way they have perhaps not been concentrated in recent years. i don't think we're going to lose that concentration in the weeks or months ahead. thank you for the quote. and my answer is yes, and no, not because it's

a political answer. yes. and no. that because it has 2 parts, depending on what you're looking at. i would say no with regard to the treaties because we have the treaties living together in peace and security in europe and everybody has signed it. but i say yes was regard to if we referring that, we just take the answers from 970 and putting them in the year 2022 because in all these years things have changed and the world have changed. and when we talked about us poly teak those days, i mean we meant was aust east also poland, romania and all the other eastern countries which are now joined. thanks god, in the european union. and that's why our answer from today 1970 cannot be the same

answer in 2022. and this is why we have also made clear. and i think this is also important for fall foreign policy. always reflecting what you are doing. and i think this is also the strength of the answers from nature, and also from asked as europeans that we ought to reflecting what have we done in the past. was there something where we should be critical by ourselves saying, did we do enough on transparency? did we do enough on arms control? did we do enough when we were talking about placing a miss i us in the region and it reflecting those things, i think is actually what we should do when we are talking together in the nature russian council. and this is our invitation to russia on the treaties, and there's no change from the past decades on the treaties of the security in you . but europe speaking, how we can ensure a peaceful world in the year. 2022 for all our citizens.

thank you. thank you very much. no. before i get the names wrong again, can you introduce yourself a foreign minister by law. we are so please when by them administration join the class and we are paying for 2 seconds to blinking now also in the special envoy, john carroll. for making it possible to follow by the admission to join the climate discourse. we are very pleased because we have hoping that we can save this planet. and with us in our side, you know, we were really delighted. now i feel is this cut in to keep creed? no problem. will it take away? would lead to the, the process up climate change?

we didn't delay. i'm mtv. the funding that we have expecting from that development will data you fill you in a while and send in a wall, and that will start a new way. well, you know, different se expenditure, which will take away money away from the planet tissue paper mode in security for the cover covenant. what does that take on? i think we see the challenge of climate change as the existential challenge of our time. and if you see it that way, you're going to make sure that you're doing your part and doing everything necessary to meet the challenge irrespective of what else is going on and what your other commitments are. ah, beyond rejoining paris with the leadership of john kerry

and president by that we have made this an ongoing commitment in multiple ways because parents because of course cop 26 was an important moment. but we see that as a launching pad, not a finishing point for what has to happen. the bottom line reality is this. if we're going to make good on the need to keep warming to 1.5 degrees celsius. whatever targets we set forth 204520502055. won't matter unless we act now and especially over the next decade. and that requires a number of things. it requires countries to actually rec, continue to raise their own ambitions. it requires making good on implementing the policies necessary to, to meet those ambitions. and for those of us in the long developed world, it requires making good on our commitments to help finance adaptation and

resilience in countries that need assistance. in doing that, the united states has a special obligation in that regard. historically, we're the largest emitter up right now we represent, as i said, about 15 percent of global emissions. so we're committed to doing our part and you don't have to take my word for it. it's reflected in the budget that we have submitted to congress. i was just up last week with the pacific island nations who are literally on the front lines of climate change right now as we speak. this is very literally existential for them. and it was a way of also making clear our, our ongoing commitment to make sure that the resources are there for adaptation for resilience. we are committed to it, it will be reflected in the budgets we continue to put forward. we have a parent that actually we have a remarkable bipartisan delegation from our congress here in munich, this weekend house,

senate republican or democrat. and i think of whatever policy differences there may be on some of these issues. there is also a foundational agreement that we need to address this problem and we're committed to doing it together. i would say thank you for your question because this is actually also my biggest fear with regard to climate change, but also with regard to other crisis. because this is all to one part of the strategy you my point of view from the russian government as are absorbing so much extension attention time. and from all of us from the european union that we do not have time for other crisis. i mean, we didn't speak about a hell, for example, at the moment, say here we didn't speak about the middle east. and i think this is also important that we give every minute what i was saying before to solve for this crisis. and now with regard to the safety of ukraine, but on the other hand,

do not forget about the rest of the world. and the biggest fear for human kind is the climate crisis. and that's why i also, when i started, so my cham as a new foreign minister. i always spoke about a climate issues and hydrogen. and some newspapers were asking, well, by the way, are you doing now? it was climate. if you have to solve a crisis, because i truly believe that this is all to one of the answers to the crisis. i mean, why is it so difficult for us to formulate strong sanctions? because we are highly depending, especially my country, on fossil imports from russia, and after 2014, we all said to ourselves in europe, we have to diversify. and we had already this chance 8 years ago to combine climate issues and security issues. if we would have invested more in green energy, it's spelled merck now, but now we can do it. we can go now towards renewable energy was all the efforts we are having and buys this making. this was

a bit more secure and not only was in europe, but definitely also in your regions. i mean, you, you are facing the climate crisis right now. you're the countries and regions which have to resettle your capitals because of the climate crisis. and that's why we have to work altogether to fight this. but again, here it's such a big potential. i mean, if we are doing energy relation corporations around the world, especially was countries where's way more space than in germany. we can have solar energy from different regions in the world. we can have green hydrogen and then a new connectivity. and this is what we are working on when we were in liverpool as g 7. we said now we have to look that we invest the money strategic wise, but also always under the umbrella of the $1.00 degree. and that's why also the g 7

presidency has a strong next us was a g 20 say present, then c, m to bringing together the climate crisis. the chances of renewable energy and making the world are more secure place. thank you. thank you very much. because our time is up, but we have the mirror here here, and i would ask you to please have one more minute of patient for him to ask a short question and then short answers. and then we have to wrap up critical urine. good afternoon, her supervisor, mr. dear friends are merrill steve. murph gets over grim 1st for want to say thank you so much for all friends who support agreements this very typical sedation, when the stamp results were used for to weekends, hawaii. it's very important right now. we understand that germany, united states,

all france, super what we need right now, defensive weapon, sango for germany, germany in this, in the last couple of years billings, to rebuild the infrastructure to make reforming the brain. but right now on this critical sedation, we say we stay frond to that one, the strong arming the wall and airy aggressor who just seem to attack you. grain have to understand they have to pay painful. bryce, we ready to fight. where is it to defend our families? our states, our cities, our citizens, we need support. thank you for 5000 pounds,

but then lumped them out. we can defend oh country. what just was that? and also were important oil from back to 1996. the agreement green in lent him then to seek, swore dot com, turns walk with largest nuclear weapons we up. oh, and nuclear weapons was a guarantee united states, french, great britain and russia. make a guarantee. oh, and dependency in their doe integrity. you smoke so much time in the bus or the right. know what the ball they pulled up ish agreement. everybody forget about it. thank you. thank you very much.

you have, if you have already responded to the question of the debris or weapons, so maybe when you would like to save a few words there. mr. mayor, 1st of all is good to see you, and i appreciate that not only the substance of yours, but also the, the emotion behind that. and here's what i can tell you, just speaking on behalf of the united states. when it comes to security assistance, as you know, in the last year alone, we provided about $650000000.00 in defense of lethal assistance. more in the last year than in any previous here. we continue to provide that, that assistance. i personally authorized some of our partner countries who had american made the equipment to transfer that to ukraine multi countries. and we are continuing to do everything that we can with,

with other partners to help you provide for your defense. at the same time, i'm convinced that the work that we're doing together bring countries not just in europe, but beyond europe. together and making very clear to russia that if it commits renewed aggression against ukraine, there will be, as we've said, and i quote, massive consequences. this is what the g 7 country said. together, the european union, nato, are the power of that deterrent and are solidarity. i remain hopeful will have an impact. but the other thing that i think is so important and it's why more and more countries beyond europe and beyond the united states are focused on this now. and i heard this at the security council yesterday is i think there's a growing recognition that what is happening in ukraine matters 1st and

foremost to ukrainians. but should matter to everyone in the world. because what's at stake 1st? yes, or the lives and well being of ukrainians. but what's at stake are larger principles . there are the foundation of the entire international order and order established after 2 world wars and a cold war with some basic principles that are necessary to maintain peace and security. and those principles are being challenged right now by russia and ukraine . principles like you can't change the borders of another country by force. principles like, you can't dictate to another country, it's choices, it's, decisions is policies, including with whom it will associate. principals like you cannot exert a sphere of influence to subjugate neighbors, to your will in different ways. complementary ways, but i believe powerful ways. countries are standing up for ukraine and for the

principals that are at stake. so we will continue to do everything we can for you with you and with our partners. also from my side to thank you for not only the question a but showing again how d of a situation is because if you're thinking about every citizen in your country is something different. being a mayor in kia than be air, foreign minister in germany, in this kind of situation. we've been in contact her very closely personally, but also on a with ya government. and i, as i've said before, i'm for us, it's not an easy decision. and but if we are looking, if we endangering by taking these steps that normandy would not work anymore. this would be my point of view. also bigger, thicker t threat for every citizen in ukraine because especially the situation around the

contact line in the separate areas. for every citizen they are, you know, it better than i do is very crucial that we are coming back at the table to talk about a minute. but we are looking at every request because we are standing side by side with you and your citizens. that's why when you're asked for helmets, we were looking my colleague here, we were looking how many helmets we could deliver. i'm sorry, it was only 5 for a 1000. we have now a new list. we look at the new list. what we have, what we can do, and i think it's really good that we and frank and open exchange about these kinds of things altogether. but again, i mean, this is also what rightly your government is saying. in those days, we have to ensure that the destabilization doesn't come from inside from air investments which are not coming any more from a currency which is going down. and that's why i truly believe that the financial

support is as important as the the, the port it support with regard to security. thank you. thank you very much. m. we could have gone on and to we have seen with the question of the ambassador men of her and their from asia. how other questions are also have to be discussed? am i to have 3 takeaways? number one, german american relations are at their best, and it's wonderful to see this, this good relationship. number 2, number 2, the 2 of you, i think we're also instrumental to forge is strong unity. that goes beyond you and nato that goes together with all those countries that respect the rules based interest. and for the viewers a just joining us here on dw news for, for coverage of the munich security conference i,

we've just listened to speeches are by germany from arizona burbock by the u. s. foreign minister, secretary of state antony blinkin, are very interesting, very much a to talk about here with our chief political correspondent and a crate in the studio and on the ground in munich. of course, our international editor, richard walker, who is standing by there. yes, there is. so lots a, lots a lots to talk about it. i would like to start with human and with antony blinkin a he or i'm had a very, very interesting as speech. and for me, what stood out was, was one particular sound by where he said that there's the forces are not withdrawn. and where he basically said that russia is not telling the truth that it's pulling forces back from you grain. and that is scenarios at play low. now let's listening to what antony blake,

glad to. so even as we are doing everything we possibly can, to make clear that there's a diplomatic path that this has to be resolved, different have to be resolved to dialogue through diplomacy. oh, we are deeply concerned that that is not the path of rushes marked on. and that everything that we're seeing, including what you've described in the last 20 for 48 hours, is part of a scenario that is already in place of creating a false provocations of then having to respond to those provocations and then ultimately committing new aggression against ukraine. so millionaire scenario is play, what does it mean? well, he essentially went on to say as that additional troops actually have been sent to the border so that although russia has been claiming that it's drawing down, it's massive truitt numbers. they are. in fact, additional trips have been sent and he says, and these are lead forces,

the kind of forces that would be taking the lead in any invasion that might happen yesterday. and the security council, anthony blank, and basically warned about various claims that russia might make that would then appear to justify russian action. possibly also, russian action short of an outright intervention. and those kind of claimed, he said it might be a claim that genocide had been committed, which in fact russia has made in connection with the shelling of a kindergarten yesterday. he said it also might be other a pretexts that russia would then use. and i, and certainly we are now hearing that one of the separatists self proclaimed break away republics in the eastern part of ukraine is calling on russian citizens. they are in there, many new russian citizens. they were issued passports by russia to leave and go to russia, a massive migration of up to a 100000 people. apparently that could be such a pretext,

hard to say what it might be, but one of the chief questions in advance of the medic security conference has been how united and the west remains. if russia begins to enact some scenario, which would involve hybrid warfare, which would involve may be cyber attacks. what would the west do then? and he says, we are absolutely aligned. we have talked about a whole range of scenarios. and in fact, we are ready for whatever rushes to do. that's a question i wanna put to richard walker there in munich. richard melinda just mentioned that hybrid warfare. of course, being a big issue here. he lincoln was asked by one of the audience member there. how he could guarantee unity in such a chase of hybrid. what warfare are the, the things that melinda just described? what, what did you have to say to them yet? well, well,

it was intern get hard because that point directly referred back to something that a joe biden himself, you, as president had said in a press conference this a few weeks ago, seeming to suggest it this unity would be hard to find if a, the russians didn't necessarily go ahead with a sort of full scale invasion, but what he described as a minor incursion. there was lots of discussion about what that sort of thing could be. so this is certainly an important part of, of the western messaging to try to insist that they are not just united down to make stuff what they would do if there were some massive invasion. but also on the smaller scale things. but of course, it's in the nature of these hybrid incidents, what they call a gray zone, that you are moving around in shades of gray. it's hard to identify who is responsible for what, whether as something has happened and who might have done it. in the case of cyber attacks, recently we've seen a number of cyber attacks targeting ukraine in recent weeks, want just a couple of days ago. and it can take

a long time really reliably to attribute who did the cyber attack. so that just points the difficulties that they will have, but of course the messaging coming from blinking he said, oh, we will remain absolutely united. but in the conduct to you here in the studio, what else stood out for you in the blink? and just to pick up on that point, it was interesting that blank and also mentioned shining a light on brush and activities. in fact, we've seen this, we talked about it a little earlier, very proactive informational strategy on the part of the us to really describe exactly what they're seeing. and they're seeing this with extremely advanced and intense aerial recognizance, for example. which is one reason that us planes were intercepted recently by russian planes in an incident that involved some very near near contact between the 2. but in that way, the u. s. is hoping to identify exactly what's going on in that gray zone that richard just described beyond that. one thing that i found very,

very interesting was the interaction that we've just heard between the mayor of care of the former boxer of cliff co and the german foreign minister. when he said, look, we really need defensive weapons. and she explained once again that in fact, germany has laws and a long history of restraint when it comes to the export of weapons to, to conflict sounds. but she did say that could potentially change if the normandy format, if the talks that germany is currently co hosting with france that involve russia and ukraine were to break down and a different situation would arise. and mr. clutch co also mentioned something that hasn't gotten a lot of discussion. ukraine was assured when it gave up its nuclear weapons in the mid 1990 s that various partner countries would give it security

guarantees of its territorial integrity. russia was among those countries and mr. clint go, just reminded us of that and of the obligations also western to ukraine, and that's not about nato membership. that's about a whole different agreement that has been signed, sealed, and delivered. interestingly, that you mentioned a deli glitch go there. the mayor of kiff, of course, who addressed, or in a bubble quite, quite directly. how did that go down there in munich? which it well, i think there was a lot of appreciation in the audience for what vitale, glitch goes, said. and he said a quite pointedly, he actually said he referred back to the fact that the germans recently approved sending 5000 protective helmets to ukrainian forces. and click go said, well thank you very much for the helmets, but they're not enough. so that was a pretty pointed remark coming from

a glitch. go there. i'm but bab bought really dig to stick to her line. she didn't, she didn't, wasn't actually asked by the chairman to respond directly to that. the chairman actually sent that question straight to tony, blinking because babcock had addressed it earlier. but babel returned to a point that she said a before. something that i think is a slightly nuanced point, but it's one that she, she's been repeating now few times is that germany has long had this very restrictive approach to dealing with weapons export. and now is not the time in the midst of the, in the heat of a crisis like this to do a kind of $180.00 degree flip on that policy and st. no, we're going to change everything. what she's pointing to that is simply that we're political do ability of something within germany. that if you tried to do something politically like that, then you open up a huge political debate within germany. there will be a lot of controversy and that, that distract from the main problem, which is russia's behavior towards ukraine. so that's the point which is

a bit nuanced that she's trying to get across about that. but i think that the thing that really struck me about alanine and alina bab bug in her appearance today was the fact that her address that came before this is kind of double headed conversation with tony blinking was so much it was a 100 percent on the same page as the americans really on so many points. have framing of the crisis saying that this is not a ukraine crisis. this is a russia crisis. this got a lot of appreciation in the audience. she said that germany, if it does come to some military action by the russians, are prepared to pay a high price in the form of economic sanctions. and that, that includes targeting nordstrom to she said that explicitly before she said it again here in this setting. as we've not reported on d w news quite a few times recently, all i've shocked her boss, the chancellor doesn't like saying that explicitly. he has never said that explicitly. she said that explicitly, that will have been music to tony blinking. he has

a real show of unity from babylon in the direction of lincoln here. thank you, richard. and talking about on a linna babbled speech. there are believe we have a clip from birth speech, whereas she makes this pointed. richard just mentioned a, let's have a list. there's a new warren pending right in the middle of europe, russia, issues, and absolutely any to bold threat with their troops build up these of either clean ukraine, but also these a v, all of us and our piece architecture in europe. and therefore, this crisis is lana, is therefore no ukraine crisis. we have to be very careful about our framing. it's a rougher crisis, and i have was land i. and we, therefore, urgently appeal to russia to draw down their trend immediately. the indian, i mean, we've seen the 1st signals that time and again,

and we've seen this happening in the posse eggs. first signals were a glimmer of hope, but now we need to see some actually no allen up air box and the furnace a speaking there before we go on to a different topic. what was the stand out moment for you that will see that the unit security consistently? well, i certainly think if we just stay with the speech that we heard from an elaina bare buck, very forthright. very clear, full of energy. and interestingly enough, and she projected a certain degree of optimism in the midst of this, as you pointed out, very dyer neural prices. yeah. when she talked about, you know, the title of the current conference, learned helplessness and how we get out of that. she said, actually, we are not helpless. we have the strength of collective action. there had been some doubt in the recent weeks about whether germany was fully aligned with it's you and native partners. i think her speech really should lay those doubts to rest. it was

as, as richard said, absolutely, on the same wave length with her american colleague and a very impressive maiden appearance here by the german foreign minister. her 1st such appearance at the munich security conference. and she really hit the ball right out of the park. ludicrous there. thank you very much for that says man. same thanks to richard walker, our chief international aid to that in munich. and that wraps up our coverage of the municipality conference. but of course, we stay on the subject of ukraine claim and counter clay by rocking up tensions in the crisis. over that country, russia insists its forces are pulling back from the border region. but ukrainian authorities say they've seen no evidence of that. russia's military, as announced, extensive drills of its strategic nuclear forces. and a similar in conflict has flared up in east and ukraine,

rushing back separatist se they'll evacuate residence to russia because of artillery. shelly. for months, these tanks signals the threat of a russian invasion to ukraine. now some of them are retreating from ukraine's bordo, rochelle, defense, ministry, seeds, military drills. and these places are ovo. and that's all it ever was. ukraine doesn't believe it. when it was on was liter not conformed the russian claim of troop withdrawals. this is not happening. that is only a movement of forces and equipment. we are watching the russian troops divisions which number 129001. and if we add naval an actual this, this figure reaches $149001.00. i'm going to give his full dad wisco school. sort of david. these tensions are storing more rapidly in east on ukraine for yours. the don bus region has been a fighting ground between government forces and russia backed rebels. they blame

each other for the damage of the conflict. caught in between many ukrainians have migrated to say 4 places. this village, for instance, has only 5 residents left. and this kinda garden was the target of a recent shelling. the show on your born you'll. i was knocked backwards. i immediately understood, there was smoke and windows breaking everywhere, but some yells upon your lot, bustled them through. all of this russia has announced for though military drools are starting saturday, they will be testing their ballistics and crews messiah with president putin overseeing the operation. russia again says these are just regular drills and not a threat to ukraine. as far as to dubuque, responded mathias billing i is in east and ukraine and joins us from the is the town of severity. the next dance near the front line in the conflict between

government forces and russia back to the separate mathias, the u. s. government warns russia could use the clashes in easton ukraine as a pretext to launch an invasion. is this also something ukrainian government is concerned about? right? well there is always this fear of a false flag operation and then the more shelling is happening. it the more probable it is that this can be somehow be used and that both sides can present victims and also the side, the separates side my to a claim that they are defending themselves. the ukrainian side is very aware of this. yesterday, the general who is in charge of this part of ukraine of the eastern front has said that they are expecting this and they are expecting that the that they are not responding to the shelling. that's what they claim in order not to create such

a pretext. thank you very much. mattie has boating out there in easton ukraine reporting for us. and that's it from me and the news team here in berlin. we have a news update for you at the top of the us that's with, [000:00:00;00] with with,

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