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darrell, an emotional note talking about 2 people recently just killed it in the region where this turbulence is going on and asking how he explains to her how he would have explained to them what's been going on in terms of diplomacy. in terms of the international support that ukraine is receiving or in his eyes not receiving sufficiently. and i think maybe what i were to pull out of this speech by say, lensky is maybe he knows what his audience is here. and that his audience is not necessarily the russians, but that his audience is the countries which are ostensibly supporting ukraine and sort of throwing down the gauntlet to them to some extent on some of the key questions here. for instance, nater ukraine's desire to join nato. now, the western allies, the nato alliance have been insisting in their negotiations with vladimir putin, that the idea that nato has an open door that any country can apply to join nato,
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or that this is a core principle of nato. well, vladimir lensky saying, well, if this door is open, and please tell me if there are any countries who really don't want us because the door is notionally open to them, but they don't see any a progress there. so he actually pushing for a timeline for you trained to join nato around the same time that most a western leaders are suggesting that at the prospect of nato membership, if there is a prospect, a tool is a pretty distant one for ukraine. i think that one example of a lensky sort of suggesting that ukraine feels strong along to some extent or by western powers in the face of this aggression from russia. and you just mentioned also that he knew his audience, who knew he was talking to. did you get a feel, a sense of how his speech was received by the delegates and munich? he got roaring applause right at the beginning, and as soon as he mentioned sold,
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this is sort of died down abruptly. what was your impression yet? well, i think, i mean, that was very striking at the beginning, the standing ovation for him. of course, that should be no surprise him in the circumstances of him coming here. it has to be stress. really are quite extraordinary. ukraine under the threat, potentially imminent invasion. and the president coming here to munich, it to a call for support. but of course, a lot of these messages that he has for western powers for the americans and for others are quite slightly uncomfortable ones, particularly, for example, with respect to germany. now, we were just talking earlier before lensky took to the stage about germany's position on supplying arms to ukraine. defensive arms, the germans saying that they don't want to do that for historical reasons. also pointing to the fact that they are meant to be acting as mediators between the ukrainians and the russians. in the diplomatic process around this crisis. well,
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zelinski not calling out germany by name, but a couple of glancing mentions to germany won't have gone unnoticed by the german delegations here. referring to the 5000 helmets that we just mentioned earlier that the, the germans are supplying but not going beyond a protective helmet. this is seen a pretty cost directly by the ukrainians and also by, by some other western allies. so an uncomfortable message also at least between the lines of from zalinski to the german hosts in. right. and which are just for those who are joining us just now we do half a short snippet out of her name is cilenzo. he's a speech i believe it's are also the one where he reiterates again that what they really want to ukraine really ones is, is peace. let's just listen and agree, ma'am. poor jim. ukraine is longing foot piece, euro is long and cookies. the world is saying,
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he doesn't want any war while russia is claiming that she doesn't want to intervene . but if someone is here is lying, some other is lying as what i mentioned earlier, i think he's pointing air that straight into the direction of moscow, the kremlin. an interesting enough, everybody at the munich security conference was stressing how important diplomacy is yet russia is not attending our is diplomacy just wishful thinking by the west at this stage? well, the fact is that we don't really know yet monica. there are so many interpretations of what's actually going on here. what is vladimir putin doing with this massive military buildup? now, one significant theory and we, in recent weeks in recent months, has been the amassing of troops in the holding of all of these exercises around ukraine. has been not necessarily preparation to invade, but the presentation of
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a military threat to invade, to go it hand in hand with a push on the diplomatic front, to extract concessions from the west over russian security. particularly, for example, to say that nato will no longer expand i. e to rule out that ukraine would join nato. so, is this military build up simply something which is, is going hand in hand with a diplomatic hush. well, the closer we get to a possible invasion, the less likely that that i'm understanding appears of course, because if the russians really do appear poised to invade and, and the sense of, of the pushing for a pretext in easton ukraine that we've seen over the last 243648. how's, does point in that direction? then that might suggest that vladimir putin was never really serious about the diplomatic sort of om of what he's been doing here. but the honest fact is that people don't really know. and it's only joe biden, the u. s. president,
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who last night said that he believes that putin has now made that decision. that's a, that's a rare voice of, of certainty in this whole situation. most western leaders and, and people like, again, stolen by we were just referring to earlier this extra general of nato. they really look more at the sort of capabilities that you see in the region and think, well, the capability is there. so that may mean that the intention is there to exactly an interesting enough is not as russia missing this morning, security conference, or china to and we've certainly seen her in the recent past are also for the opening of the olympic games in beijing. are that moscow and beijing a seem to get on really well and there are closer ties being forged. i believe you had a chance to talk to the chinese foreign secretary, a foreign minister that did you have anything to say about this current crisis yet?
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so monica, we weren't as she speaking to the chinese foreign minister, and if there is no chinese delegation here in munich, but he did take part in the conference by via satellite linked. so he did take part in an event here he gave a speech and then took part in a conversation with the chairman of the, of the conference here. and this was very interesting to watch. and because as you say, we've seen increasing signs of a growing closeness between russia and china. and this raising alarm bells in the west said the if russia and china grow closer and closer together, this only increases the challenges that the west of facing. but when you message on what's going on at the moment, was quite up what, who seemed sort of seeming to struggle both at what do different sides of this situation. so on the one hand, he was very supportive of what the russians are calling for, in terms of it security guarantees from the west. so russia is demanding that the
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west se nato will no longer agree. expand wang, he very clearly undertow underscored that message said that he heidi's also believed in that. but when asked by volcanic michigan, the chair of this conference, whether china's official commitment to territorial integrity of all nation states, i all members of the united nations, a wang ye did explicitly say that yes, ukraine is no exception. so there will be some things that the russians would have been pleased to hear from the chinese there that they agree that nato should no longer expand. but the rest of the world would have been will have been pleased to hear those words from wang ye about the territorial integrity of ukraine. so quite a mixed message from china and very interesting to hear that. well, thank. thank you so much, sir. richard was a for clarifying of the context in which this conversation took place. thank you so
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much. richard walker there at d. w sir, chief international editor following the unique security conference for us. thank you. meanwhile, attentions and eastern ukraine are flaring our pers moscow back separatists running . the region have begun evacuating civilians to russia. if accused ukraine of artillery shelling and then are calling for large, a mobilization key if denies any attack saying it's village near the separatist controlled areas have been under bombardment. on friday, the separatist leader in one of ukraine's breakaway regions, was telling people to evacuate the area and had for russia, claiming ukraine was planning an attack within a day in what appears to be a further escalation. the self proclaimed head of that in that people's republic made a call to arms the way of the miracle. but my whole on fellow country men who are in reserve to come to the military commissary ats. to day i signed
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a decree on general mobilization home and you're ready to go. i appeal to all the men of the republic who are able to hold weapons in their hands to stand up for their families, that children wives and mothers their villa together. we will achieve the desired and necessary victory for all of us. we will protect on bass and all russian people . this and a large scale evacuation of the rebel controlled area, looked like the president for conflict and a new russian invasion of ukraine. women, children, and the elderly were among the 1st to be evacuated from denette sc, packed into buses, headed for russia's neighbouring roster of region. but keith has denied the separatists claims of aggression stressing instead, a diplomatic route to a resolution author of duty i via to rate that the military and political leadership of ukraine do not plan and are not conducting offensive operations in
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ukraine's east. the only option that is acceptable to us is the political and diplomatic one. and according to keep it, it's the separatists to have up the attacks shelling homes like this on the front line in new hunts. local say the separatists attacks have increased your new blood sugar him recently. it has been quiet. and then the last 2 days, every now and then they shoot. her rule has been incidence in damascus to a car. bomb exploded in the heart of the city on friday evening. the reported owner, the head of the separatists military was not inside at the time. this just days after the us and its allies warned about potential false flag pretexts for an invasion by russia. russia's president vladimir putin. meanwhile, his overseeing military drills in neighboring bella, luce,
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while world leaders meet munich, security conference to discuss the crisis as diplomacy and war. hang in the balance where where time now to take a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world. at least 13 people have died after a deadly storm swept across northern europe on friday. emergency services are battling to clean up the wreckage. after strong winds paralyzed transport across the continent, the united kingdom has been the hardest hit, with hundreds of thousands of homes still without power. canadian police say they arrested more than a 100 protesters who have been blocking traffic in the capital ottawa for 3 weeks demonstrate as angry about code 19 restrictions of paralyzed parts of the city. the crisis prompted by or prompted to prime minister just intrude owe to an act emergency powers dozens of migrants were turned away at the border between chile
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and bolivia. chile has tightened its controls and you migration law has come into force. among others, it allows the return of migrants without documents chilly, has experienced a growing influx of people from neighboring countries of the past year. at the winter olympics in beijing, the russian olympics committee team beach sweden in a dramatic men's ice hockey semi final, the reigning olympic champion, steam r o c. used their 1st real chance of the game to open the flooring, sweden full back and managed to equalize in the final 3rd. the match then went to a shoot out which the r o c one to set up a final with finance. in skiing nichole, porches one, the free style, half pipe to give new zealand. it's 2nd to gold metal of the games porteous muster to the blustery conditions. on a day when many skiers struggled to perform their tricks, the new zealanders scored 93 on his opening run and that was enough to give him the
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gold. curling grade to nicholas eden finally got his hands on an olympic gold medal as his swedish team b to britain, in an epic final aiden had a superb game playing shot after shot, a sweden when $31.00 a head britain fought back to tie the score at 44, but they failed to dislodge the sweet stone with their last effort. wow, that's where this meant it in who is a 5 time world champion, could finally celebrate olympic a gold after he missed out at the last 2 games. and he is a reminder that you've been watching our life coverage of the munich security conference. ukraine is longing for peace. ukraine's president vladimir soleski tells world leaders of the munich security conference that is dominated this year by the threat of russian military aggression against its neighbor ukraine. russia
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