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ah, ah, ah, ah, this is dw news live from berlin. rochelle launch is a full scale invasion of you crate. the russian military is using airstrikes and artillery to attack targets across the country, including major cities and the capital key of reports are coming in of multiple casualties. ukrainian president vladimir soleski says ukrainian army is fighting back and he urges people in russia to come out and protest against the war. ah,
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i'm see me. so misconduct is good to have you with us. russia has launched a full scale invasion of ukraine. the russian military are using airstrikes and artillery to attack targets across the country, including big cities and the capital. p of ukraine says its army is fighting back civilians are trying to flee in some places as reports of casualties are starting to come in to us. western nations are expressing outrage at the offensive. they say that moscow will pay a heavy price. now we have our correspondence on the ground covering this story forest. let's head to the capital keyboard. funny for char standing by for i funny . first of all, just bring us up to date on what's been happening, where you are militarily and also what's happening there in the capital. people are holding their breath really what's been going on here over the course of just a few hours is such a critical situation for the people who can keep people who didn't expect just for
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a few days ago. that an assault is going to take place on their capital city. now, we have seen around noon local time, around a fire or smoke rather rising over a building very close to a row. yeah, right now in the city center. it turns out that this is the headquarters of the intelligence service of the defense ministry. it could not be verified at this point whether there is any damage to the building or an adjacent part to it. what we can confirm only that this was another yet another explosion, and we have several of them ourselves as you are actually waking up to those explosions early this morning, shortly after 4 am local time. and shortly after bloody be a put in, in russia, made that announcement that he's going to, and he's going to declare a quote, military operation of ukraine. now this is not what it is at this point. in fact, it's a full scale invasion. and people are bracing for the worst people that are panicking
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actually at this point, those who are leaving or trying to leave keith. it's very difficult actually to leave right now towards the west. because this heavy, heavy traffic build up, people are staying a line at a gasoline stations and banking accounts are 80 our machines and they're trying to basically find their own answer was the right situation was the right reaction right now to stay here or to rather leave funny, can you tell us more about what you know about what exactly is being targeted at the moment? we know that the ukranian president said that it's military infrastructure that's being targeted and that would seem to line up with what you have witnessed so far. this is what we, what we know, but i or what the here also from the ukranian government here. but i have to really point out that we cannot verify any of this information from the place where we are
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right now. i can really just simply of repeat what we have seen and heard this morning hear from keith as smoke as the rising of our is the building. i hear a are the head board of the defense ministers, intelligence service, but also hearing reports apparently just 50 kilometers from here. the military airport, it was also attacked, which is indicating that yes, a majorly, it says strategical infrastructure of ukrainian military. that is a prioritized right now by a russian forces. tell us more about what we've heard from the ukranian president. she introduced martial law. what does that mean for ukraine right now? martial law basically means that if you really do not have a reason to be on the street, you shouldn't, you should take shelter. it also means this point. it's not the sort of civilian law, the government law that is deciding about things. but it is the military and now
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that also means the checkpoints will be set up if they haven't been already as, as i'm just pointing out, it's really difficult to enter the city of key right now. but also to exit. you have to also show your id why you are on the street and just very essential things like supermarkets are close at this point. really the city here, the capital city of ukraine is bracing unfortunately for more explosions, more violence, more shelling and a mid march law basically means that at this point, it is a state of emergency that keith is facing, but not only keith. so many various parts of ukraine and funny, one more question before we let you go for now, you know you've been reporting on the ground there for a few days now. and we've seen this flurry of diplomatic activity over several weeks now. what is the sense that you're getting from people on the ground there? are they truly shocked at seeing this full scale invasion? go ahead?
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depends really who you talk to and what they had experienced in their lives. for example, people who've been here at my dan at independence square, he and keith and who've been taking to the streets 8 years ago when people were trying to, to show and signal towards russia that we belong to europe, that ukrainians belong to europe and to you those people are almost used to an awfully of conflict when it comes to russia and what they see as a russian occupation ever since. at in 2014 a pro russian separate his forces have again a control over doing don't yet. and no hands a to regents. in the dorm bus region that, that have been declared independent by president vladimir putin. a couple of days ago, sidney up there are people who are basically just walking around the, the street in a, by almost as if nothing happens. and again, others who are just trying to leave the city, trying to look for shelter and are hoping that they can return to the capital city,
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keith, and it's still ukrainian or correspond funny for char there and he has thank you. fanny will come back to you in a little bit. as i said, we have our correspondence on the ground. we're going to pick up the line now to nick connelly, he is in cramming truck in central ukraine for us and he's joined us on the phone. nick, tell us what's happening, where you are. lots of people on the move, especially the c, b q outside, but you will patient people tried to fill up before they make them live. i mean, they are very conscious. the fact that ukraine is heavily dependent for its oil supplied for its vessel, diesel on dollars, and now allowing russian for surgery. and i do expect that there will be issues with well, by the coming days that that could be serious. and that it might not be possible to fill up just a few days. so people trying to pick up supplies, gates, bank started to get cash going to be getting food but so far know open people not
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really not trying to push ahead and use the tools of the kind of humans. we have some people in recent weeks and because these are the play downs, the warnings we heard from washington and other western capital, he worked some level ready. look at that. can you tell us what you witness in terms of the military action that we're seeing coming from russia? of course there's so many images flooding and right now it is hard to verify what is coming from where and what is a true a video or image that we can trust. so what have you been seeing? so this morning i was in the region in which is basically you can also reach where you get the done. yes. all blast region. i was going to come back when you just don't take broke off and it was kind of extraordinary. don't just breaking and you had the problem, the st. louis that phone took a go because this could actually be happening not really want to, this was not just don't those happening on your northern frontiers in the house
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from premier saying that. and then we did about our new change and you saw people in uniforms fire brigade, people to service is getting ready with vice drive towards come back. i don't know she's been trying to get the preparations that we heard. so we have lots to refund the different the distance. it was kind of a real kind of that shockwave because he had to go to the field and moving. there was also reports from local explosions in, in the morning. they thought that with the russian attack on a nearby metro aerodrome, people telling you about hearing from their friends and family in coast don't boss and also had more in the way of 55. so that was a sense very, very close. but we were driving today, we saw smoke in the distance and live near me coming from today. but there was smoking the very wind times and they're just given look, which is coming from basically all of your lots to look like things that people can
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easily get away from. absolutely. we're talking about strike points across the country make. and one more question to you as you're out there in the field for us . i mean, can you give us an idea of how well prepared ukraine is? militarily, we know that brushes military is superior to ukraine, but how ukraine has been building up to embracing for this moment. what intrigue me to see in terms of military hardware and claims, especially in russia, superior. what it has to offer military to then was creating a starting able to provide the soldiers that have been paid by ukraine. government to bring in reserve is to hand out what people who are willing to to and what the people who are willing to fight on war. so i kind of real now that she's going to be forth on the streets. you'll be bringing. ready that by dimensions cool on your soldiers to basically go home to meet their weapons that something needed. and ukraine beginning for the long all right. are corresponding to currently in
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criminal can central ukraine, their neck is always please stay safe. we'll be talking to you in a little bit now we understand that this russian invasion is also being accompanied by a barrage of cyber attacks. those are the reports that we've seen coming in to us today earlier today. ukrainian official saying that such attacks were coming non stop. and so we brought in our chief technology, a correspondent in the studio with a seriana galka to tell us more about is he on us? what can you tell us about what the cyber attacks have done and, and the breath and scale of them. with tex, come in dozens of different shapes and forms. but right now in ukraine we actually see particularly 2 types of attacks. a, there are these so called denial of service attacks where websites are essentially bombarded with masses of requests so that they collapse. and that's how um, several websites of ukrainian ministries for brought down. um,
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those details attacks are actually pretty crude, technically, but they can be effective. and then there's a 2nd type of attack that we're seeing right now, which is much more sophisticated are where attackers really spend weeks month trying to get into the computer systems of their opponents. and once they're in there, they implement malware, and then they just wait for the right moment. and once it's there, this strike and they encrypt data, they delete data. and that's actually the kind of attack we're also seeing in ukraine right now. am, according to the cyber security company, m e cert mom. and we've seen these attacks on several ukrainian institutions and institutions with tastes. we ukraine abroad as well. so we're talking about really a well coordinated series of cyber attacks. yes. okay, so, so what exactly can russia achieve if russia is proven to be behind the cyber attacks or something we should say, that is not a certain. that's true. and you know, it's also important to serve like state for the record that in the past. russia was
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denied involvement in these kind of cyber attacks, but um, you know, generally speaking, there are 3 main reasons why countries use cyber operations in military conflict. first of all, espionage, you know, it's about sort of obtaining knowledge about your n b, about your opponent. they're not that you're not supposed to have and be it's about on disrupting communication. and, you know, during times of conflict, access to information often is key and then see. and i think that's actually really important. there's sort of a psychological element, if you will. i mean, you know, these attacks are about sewing confusing, so in cares. it's about thickening the fog of war, if you will. and it's really about sort of like sending up the message we managed to take over control over your computers and in that sense they are often very effective actually. that's a really important point, especially as you say, fog of war we're seeing so many images flood in that it's hard to understand exactly what's happening on the ground. yeah, not last question. and what can ukraine do about the cyber attacks to restore,
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for example, some of the services, and also to prevent this type of confusion that you're discuss you were discussing . i mean, you know, there's only so much you can do about cyber attacks. you can fight back, there are ways to fight back and countries like ukraine, essentially, all countries in the world now have these kind of 1st response units that they send out. and that being said, you know, once intruders are inside your computer system, it's always an uphill battle. and it's very difficult. and actually a lot of experts say, you know, you should try to keep them out of your system in the 1st place. but that is something that takes time you need to hire, need to find the right expertise for them. build up protection measures. that's nothing that you can do overnight. married our chief technology corresponding enter stalker with the story. thanks for bringing us this reporting. well, let's go now to some of the reactions that we've been seeing a pouring in across the globe over russia, invasion of ukraine. let's look 1st at what the u. s. presidential biden is tweeted or short time ago. he said, russia alone is responsible for the death and destruction this attack will bring,
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and the united states and its allies and partners will respond to united and decisive way the world will hold russia accountable. we've also heard from the european union's commission president wasn't a funder line saying we strongly condemn russia's unjustified attack on ukraine. in these dark hours. our thoughts are with ukraine and the innocent women, men and children as they faced this unprovoked attack and fear for the lives we will hold the kremlin accountable. echoing what we heard from the u. s. president there, and this is the british prime minister. boars, johnson, he said, i am appalled by the horrific events in ukraine and i have spoken to present zalinski to discuss next steps. president putin has chosen a path of bloodshed and destruction by launching this unprovoked attack on ukraine . the u. k. and our allies will respond decisively. so those, some of the voices that we've heard coming in and the german chance or olaf shoulds have joined world leaders of course, in condemning russia invasion of ukraine. he promised solidarity with ukraine and
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tough sanctions for russia. as head of the g 7 this afternoon, i will be convening a meeting of the g 7 as a video conference looking for a clear coordinated response to this situation. will be coordinating closely with our international partners in nato and in the european union today. in order to place further severe sanctions against russia now, and it is good that we have prepared for this event you ality carefully. the aim of our sanctions is to make it clear to the russian leadership that they will pay a better price for this aggression. the german chancellor speaking a short while ago and nato secretary general un salzburg was also speaking. this is what he had to say. this is a deliberate, cold blooded and long planned invasion. the
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spite, it's litany of lies denials on this information. the criminal intentions are cleared for the world to see russia. leaders bear full responsibility for their reckless actions on the lives lost ne dollars from them rushes invasion of ukraine in the strongest possible terms. it is a blatant violation of international law, an act of aggression against the sovereign, independent and peaceful country. and the see the streets to you to atlanta executed a correspondent, terry short of that nato headquarters for sure. she was at that press conference that a short while ago for us, terry. we heard those very strong words there from the nato secretary general. what was your impression from the message that he delivered a little while ago?
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this is the kind of address we don't hear very often at nato headquarters to me, a very emotional response from the nato secretary general filled with adjectives, making clear that the allies are absolutely horrified by this invasion of ukraine. and i was told that one of the allies said in their meeting this morning that this is a level on the scale of 911 in terms of a threat to the alliance. and so that is what they're going to be focusing on. now what they can do to ensure that nato territory is not affected by this invasion of ukraine, right next door. yeah, that nato territory is not affected. terry, we were heard you at the press conference asking for specifically what that meet might mean rather on the ground, especially in eastern europe, among nato member state. so how will nato be responding? that's right. what happened today in this meeting this morning that was called under what's called article for consultations. meaning that an ally feels
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a threat to its own security from what's happening in the area. and so what nato has done is given its supreme allied commander, its top military official, more powers to act without having to come back here to nato headquarters and go through the process of getting 30 allies to agree. so for example, now if he felt it was necessary, the supreme allied commander told what walters could immediately activated the rapid response force if he felt like that needed to be sent within a short number of days to a place on nato territory. he could do that as of today, so they've made some changes in order to act more quickly. now that it's known that the russian president, i will stop at no borders and terry there is an extraordinary meeting planned for friday. what do you think we're likely to see there? that's right now that will follow on the european union council tonight, the summit of, of you leaders. so you will probably hear a lot of the same kind of statements. but of course, what's important at nato is that you bring in the americans. so this virtual summit will, of course, have the american president joe biden as well. i believe i would,
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i would imagine. and this is really important. i mean, sometimes these meetings are little more than showing that all of these countries, the most powerful countries in the world are on the same page and standing in the face of this aggression. i think everyone is, is, is quite stunned, very saddened, and they will make the case once again to the russian president, no longer saying you can change change course you can, you can choose to get to resolve this diplomatically, but making clear to him that the price he's going to pay for what he's done is very, very high terry shoals at nato headquarters for thanks, terry. we'll talk to you a little bit later. ok, let's get some more reactions from here in germany to the story we have tomasetti behind with us. he is a member of the german parliament for the opposition. c su party. he is the parliamentary group spokesperson for trans atlantic relations. and mrs. evelyn, thanks for joining us. good to have you with us here on d. w. first of all, tell us how you feel about what you've been seeing going on today. but we see now
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he's nearly the worst case of full scale attack of russia in the entire ukraine. obviously, button intends to create as much as possible. and now we can only argue to stand together in the best and to do more for support in the ukraine. when asked about what doing more means because we have the latvian defense minister earlier on the program today. and he said, germany should reconsider its position on sending defensive weapons to ukraine. he said the situation is now totally different and indeed, a leading foreign policy voice for the christian democrats know about what can set today. he feels the same that the situation has changed. so is it time to send defensive weapons to ukraine? this is the point we have to reconsider this government's position me personally. i
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always get to support the crane, but intensive rep and it's always just to support a country which is under attack. this is the minimum we should deliver as breast some liberal democracies. ok, but are you worried about the consequences of delivering weapons, especially that we've seen now that we've seen the russian president vladimir putin warned that there will be consequences for any country that as he has said, quote, interferes in this conflict. both put in is to attack the 2nd lashes country in use. and the question is, where would he stop that? you might not be stopped by economic sanctions alone since the fact or those sanctions my 1000000 you seen in mid term perspective. and the only way you green can respond is to defend themselves,
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and it's always legitimate and simply necessary to support a country under attack by defending themselves. okay, you're saying the resolve is there. i want to ask you about something that we saw, the former defense minister and a good concussion bow. a say she's from your conservative sister party, the cd you. as i said, the former defense minister, she put out a tweet to day, and i think we can pull it up. i'm going to read it out. she said, she says, i'm so angry at ourselves for our historical failure after george or crimea, and don bass, we have not prepared anything that would have really deterred at putin so we were seeing the switches now on our screens. those are pretty strong words, a strong admission as well. is this a result of the west's failure? missus evelyn, to prepare for exactly this moment. indeed, louise's fe, you. we didn't stay looking serious enough. would be added
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to renting right now is a consequence approach of june. then you started with torture and without date and you continue with the annexation of the crimea in 2014. and yes, we have to do more for the children's our waste on foreign policy and in particular our german foreign policy has. ringback been focused on dialogue, which is not wrong, but which is not sufficient. we need dialogue and the parents. and yes, we have to do much, much more in germany and in europe to establish a reliable and an effective e, terrence thomas here behind a member of the german parliament for the conservative block. thanks for joining us here on w. now russian president vladimir prudence announcement came just as
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the un secretary general antonio, who cherish was speaking at an emergency session of the united nations security council, urging him to give peace a chance. the late night televised the dresser put and came shortly after his self proclaimed separatist leaders in eastern ukraine. asked him for military support. it is the latest combination, a series of escalations that began on monday when put in recognized the independence of 2 regions in eastern ukraine, including territory controlled by chief doors on american city. queen i'm addressing the ukrainian army. please lay down your arms, your grandad's and your great grandfathers did not fight the nazis and defend our common fatherland. we saw that neo nazis would seize power in ukraine. jamarcus, you made an oath to serve the ukrainian people that will you please, they are a fascist hunter who have seized power in i don't know who to go with laundering ukraine and exploiting its people and don't fulfill their criminal orders. if you lay down your weapons and go home, he's away was mimi. and in las larry
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w. e d the morning. well, we're going to get some voices now from moscow, mixed reactions from people on the streets of the capitol. let's take a look. we had, there was boy, me, i wouldn't want a full scale war in europe or in the world. i hope that the problem will be sold soon and there will be peace again with sonya. i'm sniffing atmosphere. no one knows what's going to happen with the currency with our economy, and it's not clear if we're able to survive the crisis like in 2014 or our situation will only get worse. posing other good with us to normalize on say that this situation makes me happy, rather, extremely concerned must, i know, otherwise ukrainian and russian actions seem logical from focused perspective. so it doesn't allow you to choose who's right or wrong or what the problem for me. it's a brotherly country at the brother the people roskus on average cannot ord. yesterday it was shipped. it wouldn't thinks it's necessary then it should be done this way in terms of protection of civilians. i know some people in donates. can lew hans
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and i know how they used to leave these people work to help them get early katara said to keep on. let's get the view now from moscow we can speak to journalist natal are small in favor who is are standing by their hi, natalia, a. we heard there really a mixed number of voices from people on the streets of moscow. how surprised our people there that this invasion has gone ahead? well, i think all of us here walk up to this news of war invasion or me, little operation as it's cold here in the russian media and mosul never shocked to, to find out this use. and live here goes as normal and f, as you've heard from the people in moscow. and there's a lot of different to use in different concerns. some people rushed to get out of currency because the russian rabble hit and rob button and it is style developed. so they tried to save their savings, other sr, calling their relatives in ukraine,
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but many people are just not aware of what is happening because what sat on the russian td's, that's where she's not attacking the queen. it's just for protecting its citizens in danbury areas. so i think a lot of people just are not realizing what's happening right now. that's really interesting. you say you're saying the russian media essentially. i mean, how are they reporting on what's happening in ukraine at the moment? am today in the morning at 6 o'clock at a was an hour long televised speech by vladimir putin and every hour. it's repeated a part of it. this speech is repeated so to narrative that's been, am portrayed in the national media. but interestingly, am they a russian media regulator at rosco, not or has already asked another media, independent media, only stick to official facts, and those are facts from the russian side. so a lot of independent media. oh no fear that they'll be just bad from the coverage
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of what's happening there. and there will be even less sources for information about what is really happening there on the ground. how much support do you think that vladimir putin has for this move there in russia? well, it's hard now to estimate that. but what we know is that the independent living center has already asked whether people that support his or rushes, recognition or full hands and don't ask that people republic and the results are very mixed. so 45 percent said that they do support this move. well for to percent say that don't so it's clearly and there was a group clear division in russian population about what to think about it and how to accept this. and today we're expecting to see some more people coming out of the street to process this. there's been, some brought us already and around 30 people have been detained in the streets of moscow and other cities. and we expect more and more people to come out today. but
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we have to understand that it's really dangerous right now to get out on the street and rush and to protest because it's clearly can end up in detention and natalia after president putin's address in the night hours. what have we heard from him and russian officials today? well, russian officials are constantly saying that and this is not a word. this is similar to operation that actually wants to install peace in ukraine and it wants to protect the people. and this is the official narrative that has been em, have been ongoing for the past days. and i think this intensive problem preparation, propaganda preparation for what's happening on the route now has been going on. and this is, this is that july. and the visual course and we're now haven't seen any new any, any new warnings from, from the government journalism of hell. they are small and save us.

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