yet the person should use too little thought. i feel mostly tired and anxious. nathan, dealer, it's so strange. none of the fields really? yeah. i don't even know how to relate to it. oh my god. because i work with you from above them. soldiers on the streets of central, keith and reports of gunfire near the government district and on the edge of the capitol, an enemy aircraft, the ukrainian army claims they shot down. meanwhile, ukraine's president sent a message to russia. or he has sold more the data around which if he is in russia, we'll have to talk to a sooner or later. just talk about how to end the fighting and stop this invasion for the sooner the conversation begins. us more well with the fewer losses there will be for russia itself. there are there some way i see. but in moscow repeated

unfounded claims from the kremlin suggest there's no end to russia's invasion in sight. so the aim of the operation was openly declared demilitarization and de nuts of vacation. but on worcester, we want the ukrainian people, or as president putin said, all the people living in modern ukraine to have the opportunity to freely determined their future destiny was about boardman. but for most ukrainians, the only future they are contemplating now is whether to remain in their homeland or to flee. or any finance ministers have been meeting today in paris to discuss further sanctions against russia. germany is under increasing pressure to drop its opposition to cutting off rushes, access to the swift money transfer system. now robin wagner is a member of a german parliament for the green party and sits on the parliament's committee, so not foreign unto european affairs. its way for

him to bear his welcome to d, w y in germany. so opposed to cutting russia off from the global financial system. i think it's only talking about the word swift and the feelings that you know with talking about clipped. but we definitely need to have strong things again, trust us. we are facing an aggressive, again, international piece or the and again how it so we need to have packets of sanctions that really work and really push heart against the rest of capabilities to find on the wall. and we need to have a good population between what we do and what would be the retaliation that comes from russia. and i think we need to take all of this into account and it's not only talking about the work switch, but to have a good package that directly addresses those responsible and directly addresses everything that is necessary to cut off fine. and you say that we need to have

a set of sanctions that will allow us to push hard against rushes ability to finance. it's was, wouldn't cussing it off from swift. achieve that that could be one part of such a package, but we also have other measures that we're thinking right now that also really go strong and go to that goal without having the negative side effect, but cutting off from switch. so what are the negative side effects that, that you fear? what is the russian retaliation that you fear? well, we wouldn't be cut off everything that could happen between russia and the rest of the world. and that would be a strong problem. also a society with cut them off tiny bit from, from, from total financial systems and we have other measures that have strong effects as well. ok, i, what i would like you may do is actually give them our use is to give people

watching d w. now this is your opportunity to tell them. this is why it is bad to cut russia off from swift. if. if we cut russia off from swift, these will be the negative consequences. the stage is yours. no, it's not only talking about we have no home please, please please, please address not to the point. we please. all right, your address the that's fine, but this is the big one on the table. so swift is the one that germany opposes. explain to the audience why it would be a bad thing to cut russia off from its ability to finance. it was by cutting it off from swift. explain to us what the negative consequences would be. no, we would not cut off russia with this one measure from finance. that was a package of measures that we need at the moment. and we need a strong unified position all these measures and it's not a good idea to focus solely on swift. we have other measures in this package that

will work on the way a to cutting off russia from financing the war. and we totally focus in the debate on swift, which is not a very good idea. it's not only just one aspect. this one aspect is what makes us all feel good that we have done everything we could. but there are other measures in the text that are quite strong. for example, today, there weren't even the sanctions against putting a law, which was not something that has been done in ways of sanctions before you've told me that we've talked about a strong european response. this is the 3rd set of sanctions that europe has imposed on russia. there was a fat after it brought down at h $111.00. there was a set that you agreed before this war happened. and this is the 1st set. where is the evidence that any of this has had the slightest impression on russia?

i think we're not talking about the last set of things. we're talking about this set of sanctions and we we have a strong set of sanctions at the moment. attractive. i'm ok. is it necessary? but at the moment we have something on the table. one of the criticisms that germany has faced is that it puts its own commercial interests with russia ahead of wider considerations. and, and, and it is taken you, that the german chancellor so long to even use the words nor string to i'm gonna presume that you, that you are going to say that, that criticism of germany is unfair. as a green party in germany, we have a long history of strong, strongly opposing not to the fact that we have had quite a lot of times before. and it's not bring to the fuel politically or wrong project . and it's very good that it's off the table and the foreign minister made it very

clear that germany willing to pay it price for strong functions and for really acting again, this aggression again, international law and peace in europe. thank you so much for joining us, robbing the fact that number of the german parliament for the greens give is a recap of the latest developments. russian forces are pressing close to ukraine's capital k of on day 2 of a full scale invasion. the mayor says the city has entered a defensive phase and ukrainian military vehicles are entering the capital to protect it from approaching troops. oh oh, this is prompting people to take shelter in metro stations that have been reports of clashes and, and around the city. after rush of bombarded it with missiles overnight, ukraine's government says that at least $137.00 of its soldiers and civilians to

kill with russian president vladimir putin. a claim he's willing to go after you. crimes and ms. lewinsky raised the possibility of neutral status on ukraine, but the conditions for such talks have not been made clear. did you get more from the w, corresponded family show in who's here in berlin with me from moscow after russia withdrew her journalistic accreditation? good to see you here, emily. let's start with the, the calls for talks from both sides who is saying was, well, it's been a bit of a back and forth to day. and it almost seems at the moment that this is a bit of play acting from the kremlin, that we have to wait and see, of course, to lensky today said that he would be willing to talk about making ukraine a neutral country. surprisingly, to me, at least the kremlin spokesman and said that, that idea would fit in with putin's idea of you know, what they're calling demilitarization and di notification and big quote marks and putting that big quote box. and then the beller versus a leader said,

a look at anchor said ok, well you can meet in minsk than ukraine said back. i came back and said they would actually rather me in warsaw. and then the kremlin spokesperson came back and said, well, now you've taken a bit too long to respond. so now relations between our 2 countries are paused. so you do get the sense in a way that and you've been getting that i think for several weeks now that kremlin doesn't really recognize the government knows lensky government as legitimate at all. and in a way that fits in also what putins with what food has been saying about ukraine. he's been saying that he doesn't really even think it's real country. so we'll have to wait and see whether there are talks. but it could be that this is all kind of smoke and mirrors just part part of the game every. what around the world is not sitting there, a child peer into vladimir putin head and asking themselves the question, well, what has him, bolden him to do this? now, the problem is, of course, phil that i can't peer into his head either. we don't know,

we know that of letting me put in has been thinking about ukraine for some time now . he wrote an, a big long article about ukraine back in july, and of last year about how, you know, he doesn't think that the ukrainian people are a separate people from russians essentially. so essentially the same thing that we've been hearing from him this week as well about kind of not recognizing a kiss in the ukraine, statehood. then we've also been hearing about nato expansion and how that against russia, security interests now for several months. and there's this real sense from vladimir putin that he's been wronged, that russia's been wronged for many, many years by the west and not taken seriously. that he's kind of here to wrong. some, i mean, to write some historical wrong to do historical justice to restore that almost on a masonic mission. and i do think also that the, there was a vote, you know,

on constitutional changes back in 2020, which allow vladimir putin to stay in power and beyond his current term, which ends in 2024. and it seems almost as if he's doing something kind of outrageous now to release cement his power and perhaps we're going to seek some changes within the kremlin elite in the coming weeks as well. so the biggest response of the west is marketing at the moment is sanctions discussions of sanctions implementation of san is russia, of course has been under sanction for years. you've lived in moscow for years. have you seen in that time at any sign of sanctions having an effect on the people? of course, the ex pat community has been complaining for years that there's no french cheese and european cheese, but that, you know, jokes the side, the, the, the russians have been saying for years that the narrative there is with the previous sanctions that, that will, that those only make rushes economy stronger, and particularly the agriculture sector and so on. now the narrative is that those

sanctions, you know, we're used to the sanctions. we've been fate, we've been, you know, under sanctions for years. and those sanctions will actually just make us stronger . and they will actually be implemented no matter what we do, that's kind of the new line that no matter what happens, the west is just trying to keep russia down because we're too great a country for them to face when it comes to the actual economic situation. you know, real wages for people in russia has been falling for several years. and actually this week, you know, yesterday with this announcement of the war, essentially the invasion of ukraine, people that i know we're running to atm to take out dollars because the rouble was in free fall. so people are really concerned about about their livelihoods and, and the consequences not only of sanctions, but actually of this war as well. emily, a stay with us. so we're going to take a look at as an anti will some annual process that are broken out in russia. and then we'll come back to you because people have been gathering outside russian

embassies not to protest against russia's actions and to express their support for ukraine. but in russia itself, taking part in public demonstrations can result in immediate detention. despite this onto all processes in cities across the country, half taken to the st, risking arrest, even prison time to show the world that russia is not united behind president who them thousands him out across the country. chanting no to war. they were flaunting a ban on demonstrations. police arrested over 1700 people, half of them in the capital. moscow authorities warned they could be charged with a crime with i don't want russia to attack the crane like this. yeah, i have grandparents the boss gradient. so when you find the boy,

that was what happened is a shame, like many of us have relatives and friends from ukraine, and this is a betrayal of them. e, with every like, is go back russian stage, perhaps the most daring display of opposition. but not the only one. demonstrations of solidarity sprung up in cities around the world times square and new york saw a massive ukrainian flag, unfurled me. the brandenburg gate and berlin was also visited by a crowd of ukraine's yellow and blue national colors. as this past year, it was many of us thought it was impossible, but it happened. i woke up this morning and it brought me to tears. i never to more in touch, actually since rakish. i think it's appalling because it's an illegal war of aggression and it has to stop. it's important that there is peace in europe, and this is a worst case scenario with the full assistance of us. it's a posse on quantum, a condemnation of prudence, war, and

a message of solidarity with those and basements and bomb shelters across ukraine. so i did have the corresponding to emily sherman is still with me at emily. how significant is they opposition to this war with you? crime in russia. of course we don't, we don't know over all when it comes to numbers. i think it's probably fair to say that any surveys published now, you know, we should kind of cast a very critical eye on those. i would say that the fact that people came out to protest yesterday at all is significant because it's really difficult and dangerous to protest at the moment in this current atmosphere, which has been quite tense, i think for the last few weeks. but even for a long time, you know, at the beginning of 2021, there were these big protests after the rest of opposition politicians, alexey navine, and there was a huge crack down with, you know, a huge number of arrests after that. you know, create

a critical media outlets being closed and so on. so it really became.