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millions of children all over the world and to go to school with we ask why? because education makes the world more just i make up your own mind. d. w. made for mines. ah, this is did on the news africa coming up on the program. what happens to africans stock in ukraine up to roches invasion? many africans are desperate to be evacuated. home to safety. we speak to in nigeria and students in ukraine who was woken up by explosions. also coming up, you take you to be therapy out to meet some of the women suffering the cruelty of all the un says all sides and the t gray conflicts have used rate as a weapon of war. and we take
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a closer look at land reforms in south africa and asked, how can equal land ownership be truly achieved? locals of the community in south africa have taken a church to court or by land ownership rights. they claim to be original owners of the land. and once it's back, ah, i am eddie micah genia. joe, welcome to the program. that war in ukraine has thousands of africans on edge that are currently around 30000 people of african descent in ukraine. and nigeria has the 2nd largest african community that many of them are students gone to study in europe. on the day of the i talked started, we managed to get hold of one of the nigerian students in ukraine or to him. we dia dennis has been in caucus, in east, in ukraine since december, and studies medicine, not a khaki institute of medicine and biomedical sciences. i asked him how he felt when
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the russian invasion begun definitely is not funny. movies or funny because out as 5 in you know, he's not so bright. so when you look at the atmosphere, you cannot try me from my window. you can actually see the gym door was a quad. yes try. you can see the lightning. i know that the sound of the bomb last actually woke me up this morning around 5 am. i can definitely yeah, yeah, the nissan from, from my window. basically you say are you scared of what's going on? oh, i'm not scared and i can't see. i'm scared. i'm just disturb ok mentally. yeah, yeah. are you alone there or are you in touch with fellow african students? we have a lot of africans. we have a lot, see lots, lots of africans,
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nigerians who lots of them and talking to them. what are they saying? the citizens, i will ukrainians, most of them these my comp on the left, the left the compound, but from what i go, the for i got most of them of we are going into poland more for, for he knows. i don't think most of it actually going dad was a have a mean. so from a b c, the private guy who i be a family or for a now a private car. so the can i try to move? we, we tease, lead me joe means of transportation is actually the transition on mitchell. we, she's what she's shot down right now. so there's only 4 in us. can i try leave? what do you expect from your government right now?
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needle sandy we have it was when the airports open, we dont know when the airports are built on our new vehicles on the open washer. we do right now. i mean couple of i have been trying to reach out to the embassies money. i have not been able to do that. the contact the gifts was one of the number you want is going to and nobody has picked up. so i don't know, we need to get in touch with somebody from the authority delcy frenzy reliable. so right now is not just the bombings about light nigerians. dia especially the new fema is the are so scared. i am for about soon i insurance premiums are the and lots brindley, my compound boards agency to me, nicoli me every time i call you them every time. so most of the mass, very, very, very, very good. so i think the goal may need to step up and step up immediately and see how, how we can be of with immediate alacrity. ok. oh
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to my dear dennis, thanks a lot for making time to talk to us are stay safe. and we will stay in touch and keep our fingers crossed, that things don't for the escalade to affect you. thank you very much. my dear dennis madison student from nigeria, ukraine. now to find out what the nigerian government is doing to help its citizens and ukraine. we caught up with you soon by yahoo, sherman, of the house of representatives, committee on foreign affairs in nigeria. and war is not within that any human being . so think about what we hope and pray that this issue will dissolved diplomatically. ultimately, i speak to you by the government is making every arrangement to see that. and i just don't want to be migrated will be if i q entered in due course to fail. i
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discussed implications of russia innovation of ukraine. did you tell me a lot? it will joins me now in this to be handled. tommy, nice to have you here. so tell us how our african governments responding to russia's invasion of ukraine. what was seen the 3 african countries that are present at the un security council that's gonna go back and can you give strong statements of concern recognizing ukraine sovereignty and saying this attack should this invasion should not have happened was in the african union as well as an organization give a similar statement calling for russia to respect ukraine sovereignty. now in particular, south africa's presidency, or i'm opposed to come out himself giving us a more robust statement condemning the way this has gone about and seeing that maybe you as president joe biden. and russian president vladimir putin should have spoken. i should have talked without preconditions. and maybe that would have prevented this war from going ahead. and he says,
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mediation is the only way out. nigeria for example, has been a bit more quiet. and as we've seen with the students that i think they're more focused on getting the citizens out because that's where the pressure will be for them. but if this issue were not to be sold in the un security council and actually went to the un general assembly, i think that's where african countries will play a bigger role, because then numbers. so what are the immediate implications of this conflict for the continent? we've seen, for example, the prices of oil and wheat go up, that's global. so african countries not only was affected by that, but of course, that affects african countries. maybe the countries that produce oil, for example, would be the ones to benefit, at least the short term from the rising price of oil. um, but if europe decides to cut its dependence on russian gas, for example, we could see european countries turning to other sources like in africa for gas.
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we've seen countries like nigeria like mozambique, for example, that can pro, produce this as to whether they can actually produce and meet the demand that is there at the moment in the short term that's, that's hard to say. but maybe the longer term they might provide other options for, for the rest of the world. so we see it happening already as, as the west tries to counter the threat from russia. could there be a focus on moscow's dealings in africa? you know, we have to look at what must have dealings are in africa. and those are predominantly military. we've seen, you know, just the supply of arms, for example. a lot of african countries find that it's much harder, a lot more strings attached when you want to buy a military equipment from the west. but with countries like china with, with russia, for example. it's not that hard. and so there's, there's been quite a lot of that. we've also seen russian private military contractors in particular. the wagner company operating in africa. we've seen them in central africa republic,
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briefly in mozambique as well as now in miley, i think there will be pressure on those particular countries or what to do with, with this particular relationship going forward to me either. or thanks a lot for the insights ah, to, with european out there to guide crisis in the north has left the 10s of thousands bed and millions displeased as governments troops and to ground forces battle over territory. a u. n. investigation has found at all sides, and the conflicts have committed by allusions, including using rapes as a weapon of war. did of your report on mario mueller has been to the omaha region to meet women, trying to recover from their trauma. just a warning, this report contains descriptions of sexual violence jeannette had no chance to run when 4 men came to her garden. we are not identifying her in this report and didn't, but she got a good monday, one put
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a gun to my ear. the other one, put a gun to my ribs, couldn't that, don't design it. the girl looked over there took me into my house, let them go for they picked me up and threw me down and the answered offered. one of them put his feet on my shoulder and burned me. why? one of them burnt me with a cigarette? cut out another was forcing me to have sex with him. the 4 men raped her for several hours. they left her with h. i v and other infections and a deep fear citizens good can win if they come back and take control of the town again. i have to die. i am very scared in this town hike during that raid last november. the men were fighters loyal to the t grey people's liberation front or t p left. but men on both sides are using sexual violence as
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a weapon of war. when janet asked the to grounds why they were raping her, they told her government forces had done the same in their towns to their mothers and sisters. she's doing her best now to build a future and has started a distance learning course. she wants to set up a small business. nissan ultima. let him think, i want to go to school because i didn't attend to school as a child. now education is good for my work to get more knowledge and live a better life than just a few streets away. a 14 year old girl. she also wishes to remain anonymous that the grand fighters came to her home to cassandra. so good luck, good luck, tremendous one of them said i will take one of you and al kill one that will be let go to bed. my sister, faint at ill and feigned at hila morris to my aunt, begged him. but he said, no,
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i will kill you and take one of you or to my sister. so i told him to leave them and do whatever he wants to me, only other clinging out there. i was scared at be killed or raped. another thing adorned to flinging, but if so i didn't expect to come back. i am, i feared at die what hand home, so he didn't kill her. he raped her for much of the night. since then, she often misses school for medical appointments, but also to avoid gossip and bullying, or gotten with that also good by her to silly. but i prefer not to go to school until mila to sort the people i used to play with there. but now when i agreed them in a book, they don't want to play with me as helen militant selected. but let jeannette salaam has plans. she intends to become a police officer or soldier herself and get her own form of justice. but i said to be more distilling, or i say i wish i could find him and kill him. i want him to die by my hand carving
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we've listened to several other women with similar stories across them. her region . they can tell the world what happened. women over the board n t gray have suffered similar attacks. but the de facto ban on journalists means their voices can not yet be heard. really horrifying accounts of violence and abuse their w correspondence. my young villa filed the report and not the heritage from high region. and if you yeah, we asked what help the women get and to deal with a trauma. the women you saw in that report only received limited medical and psychological support by local authorities, even though a spokesperson told us they offer help and hospitals, for example. but those are often hard to reach for affected women. many hospitals in the region have been looted and transport them. nearby city is expensive already
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last year, right group, amnesty international found that women and girls and t grey was subjected to rape gang rape, sexual slavery, sexual mutilation, and other forms of torture by members of the yoke in defense forces it retreat in defense force and harm militia groups and joined investigation by the united nations and state appointed. if you'll pin human rights commission. also accused all sides fighting in the war of committing atrocities, of which some may even amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. but since then, not much has been done to protect women from these kinds of attacks. i must not take a closer look at the issue of land in south africa of athens. the end of our pop, i'd land ownership has been one of the most sensitive topics in south africa. does fight political promises reform as are moving at the snails pace, as things spend the white minority things that africa still owns the majority of the land at about 3 quarters of it, although they make up under
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a 10th of the population. meanwhile, blacks that africans just own 4 percent of land, even do the account for more than 3 quarters of the population. so it's no surprise that black that africans are seeking more land. they believe rightfully belongs to them. he has a story of a small town. yeah, cape town that's taking the claim of ownership to court because of the village of elim in south africa, the western cape. many of the 500 households here earn a living farming, including yard glitter, but he doesn't own the land. he farms it belongs to the church, criticize that's a problem because he and other farmers in the community can apply for loans and government funds that would improve their lives. if you're not giving that man or woman that freedom to, to, to farm property or to own land property, what do you have? you do not own land. and the people just want to have that, that ownership back to play that only the economy be part of the economy. so life
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will improve and the local on economy will improve. the problem goes back to 100 years, when jim and missionaries set up a station here, they bought a vacant land to provide a home for free slaves and indigenous clay people. now their descendants wants to own at themselves. the moravian church says it is willing to hand over a residential land, but at once to hold onto the lucrative farmland. some residents say the profits are being clouds back into the church rather than benefiting the local community. the church denies that the leadership things personal interests are behind the drive for private lead. i have a feeling that this movement to get into stickley and not get it wrong. i'm not saying these at all. but in relation to our 4 big where whether to make the place, if it is the day,
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and make sure that it will always be a place of refuge that is not on the forefront in the more the issue has split the community and ended up at the high court in cape town, the case started off as a claim by the church for unpaid rent, but local made a counterclaim arguing they have historical rights to the lead. unfortunately, we've got to make use of the court. cj is in order to ensure that crosses all of which, if we place the language to store back to, to each, so i call own, isn't it? well, that takes time, but we have hoped it for, for once in a lifetime, ah, just as will, will prevail and end and lane is going to be restored back to its original owners, yukon. be a slave within yo don. although ellem is not a typical example, a ruling in this case could have wider repercussions get glitter hopes it could center presidents and reignite south africa, stalls land reform debate. to talk some
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more about this. i li, i spoke to for to me into benny, political commentator and writer, he wrote a book on the frontier history of land at dispossession in the late 18th and 19th century. i 1st asked him about the land disputes we just reported on if the church should handle by the land to the local community. no, isn't it? it follows why did believe it should give it back to the look out because that i didn't like the titian, the collision function, as i say, says that, but when there is a greater need and that for common good, then the rights of property, the individual rights of property should be given up and sought no tent and somewhat naked into that needed that is required by the community. so if they they, they, they, they, they follow what they believe they should give, that lent up. okay. miss, i'm and have any. please stay with us before we continue discussions. let's look at house out africa. got to where it is to day. a situation where 3 quarters of land
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is owned by a small minority. oh. when nelson mandela became president in 1994, he promised change a complete break with the past until that point apartheid had ruled with the white minority in charge. the majority, black south africans were forced to live in townships the land having been forcibly taking since 1913 as resentment amongst the majority increased. so did the protests . and so to did the governments of brutal response post apartheid montela said almost a 3rd of land would be returned to black south africans within 5 years. but that still hasn't happened. there are around $37000000.00 hectares of privately owned
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land across the country. almost 3 quarters are owned by white south africans, even though they make up under a 10th of the population. just 4 percent is owned by black south africans, while they account for more than 3 quarters of the population. humbling discussions have been held over whether to push for land to be expropriated, without compensation ah, to his malim as economic freedom fighters party has been campaigning for this. for years. the land is come in to our people. why barbara abala to the land is coming. and south africa's president also put land reform at the heart of his 2019 electoral campaign. we outline elements offer planned to accelerate land reform making use of a range of complimentary measures including when appropriate expropriation
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of land without compensation. yet despite that public backing, last december, the policy failed to get the 2 thirds majority needed in parliament for its implementation. the ball will not be the 2nd thing. the luck of the resolution on the issue only in trenches the feeling among black south africans that decades after the end of apartheid injustice still reigns over to means of any thanks for staying with are so clearly the inequality of land ownership in south africa is a huge problem. so why is it taking too long to address it? i would say currently the problem is with our current government, it has introduced a confusing, sometimes even contradictory law to follow the mandate of the constitution,
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which i said that monday is to give more than to the people. and if you, if you'll see, especially the laws that it follows, they are based from the columbia law and the update law. and then they have not been updated. and hence the, those laws are unable to carry out them effectively, the monday that is given by that, by the constitution. because our constitution is new and was founded in 1992. so i think the conclusion is that currently in our parliament, there is a debate if that if, if, whether it's legally to expropriate, learned without compensation, which is a silly debate because the concentration does allow that when there is public good, that is in consideration. so there is that confusion and that's why i'm saying, but the funds are trying to live with our current government. but you talk about confusion. that's because it is quite a complicated situation, isn't it?
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what could be a pro power distribution of land strategy that will appease all sites involved? look, or where, where there is a need for people that need land. and there is a land that is lying, undeveloped, or it's, it's, it's follow, then the government should, should, should, and should take that land and which is to be did to their, to their people. and the thing about it where they feel that comes in our land phone, is the fact that the laws under forms are there. and sometimes it happens that the government buys the land from the people who owns the land and let's not delete valley here. at that length, this was in our country, is the people that work for the and so the people who own that, that the great my area of the land are the white people who have acquired it from the tons of cornell to the but what is happening now,
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when the government sometimes buy the land from the pro, from, from the owners of the land, they low to the price is because there is this thing that is called willing sell, willing buy went by and willing seller must be the one who puts the price of the land, which is where the problem comes and then they're willing to sell the price. and the government buy a lot of places. and i think most of the time the government distribute the lead to not to the communities that needed. but among the political leads the current political and it's, and that is where the major problem lies about how we wrap up the show from all of our stories, you can go to d, w dot com slash africa. you can also visit us on facebook and twitter, talking about social media platforms. why not? you can also follow me on instagram and on twitter at, at the mike. now we leave you with pictures from the 6th edition of international
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