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[000:00:00;00] ah ah d w news line for land, russia and ukraine hold talks, but the war bridges on as the 2 sides meet in bella, bruce hopes are high, but expectations low. ukraine is demanding an immediate cease fire and withdrawal. meanwhile, rocket fire kills doesn't ukraine. second biggest city, also coming up with a minute silence at the united nations to remember victims of the conflict. the un chief born humanity is facing a moment of truth. president volota mirrors,
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lensky asked for ukraine to be allowed to join the european union without delay. he says his country needs equality and protection. meanwhile, hundreds of thousands, li, ukraine, poland, and other nations set up shelters while families open their doors. the european union says refugees will be welcomed with open arms and rushes currency. the rubel plunges to record blows as western economic sanctions begin to bite. russia banks are effectively cut off from the global financial system. ah m nichol furnish welcome to the show. ukraine and russia have begun their 1st talk since war broke out 5 days ago. ukraine is demanding
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a cease fire and the withdrawal of russian troops from its entire territory negotiations took place in belarus, close to the ukrainian border. ukraine has sent its defense and deputy foreign ministers. russia's former culture minister is leading its delegation, raising questions about how seriously moscow is taking the process. ukraine says it's major. cities are still holding out. russian rocket strikes have killed dozens of people in the 2nd biggest city har keith. hundreds more, were wound it. and just a warning, some of our yours may find the images in this next report. distressing the paternity of this conflict in plain sight, medics say the people here were injured as russian troops shelves, the port city of murray. awful. one of them, a 6 year old girl doesn't make it yet another pointless loss of life
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crush essays. it's not targeting civilians. but pictures such as these which ukraine says is the residential building in flames. in the northern town of china have seemed to disprove that claim as to these satellite images showing craters caused by russian artillery fire near residential areas in the city of khaki in the east ukrainians say they will do all it takes to defend their country. a civilians learn how to become soldiers. ukraine's foreign minister makes clear the extent of his resolve that they will never give up. he also had this appeal to people in russia who, with whom american fo, would like to address the citizens of the russian federation. look what vladimir putin turned your country. you'll be country into here, declared an invasive war against ukraine. he sent here your sons, husbands, to kill ukrainians. capture our lands,
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destroy our cities. ukrainians did not want this war, but they will fight for their land and their homes. no green senior living documentary awful residence or sheltering from the fighting in an underground. jim . many have been here for 5 days. despite what is happening outside to some are trying to be optimistic my new so let's hope for peace negotiations because everyone wants peace and some kind of result so that civilians are being killed where the majority here. your beloved for now though, there is no peace. this is the new reality for the millions of ukrainians who just last week were leading normal lives without bring and d w. as emily, sherwin she used to work in our d. w. a studio in moscow for a really long time after her journalistic accreditation was revoked. she now joins
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me in berlin. emily talks between the russian and ukrainian delegations have finished for the day. what do we know? we know that both delegations have said that they're going back to their respective capitals for consultations. and we heard statements from both sides, which were kind of cautiously optimistic, i would say, but without any real outcome. so the russian side said that the 2 sides talked for 5 hours and they found areas where they could potentially find common ground. the ukrainian side said that they discussed a ceasefire in ukraine, and they also discussed several topics that could lead to some kind of as a result, we don't know what that result could be when it comes to the cease fire from the russian side. we don't really know what they're saying. they have been presenting this operation, this war at home as a kind of liberating operation, protecting the russian speaking population of ukraine. so they almost don't see this as a real war. they see it as a special operation. that's how they're describing it. and the 2 sides went into
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talks, though with different positions, particularly on the issue of the crimean peninsula. the ukranian side is demanding that all that russian forces leave all of the ukrainian territory, including the crimean peninsula, which was annexed by russia back in 2014. and the russian president today said in talks with his french counterpart that he actually wants official recognition of crimea as part of russia. so there could be some sticking points. they're going forward and we'll wait and see what talks in the next few days kind of venue. yes. pronounce sounds like they couldn't be further apart. russia over the weekend has been hit with extremely harsh sanctions. did those play any role in these negotiations taking place to day while the position from the kremlin on the sanctions has been rather defiant to day as well? the kremlin spokesperson admit deepest scoff, said that they have a long term plan for these sanctions that they've been planning for har. sanctions like this for
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a long time. of the president vladimir putin was talking in talks today about the economy though. so it does seem like they're taking things rather seriously. i would say that when it comes to public pressure, you know, on the one hand, some people are afraid about their money. the rubel has been in free fall after all we've, he's seen these lines of people taking out money at bank, at 80 ems across the country. and on the other hand though, there are people who are watching state t, v, who are getting the sense that this is going to be a short and victorious war. and when it comes to public opinion, though, i think what could be a decisive factor in the p. r campaign that the the kremlin has at the moment is, is when the body bags of russian soldiers start arriving back in russia. how are people in russia keeping up with information because i can only speak, you know, from our experience, ever since the invasion started. we've been glued to our phones and to,
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to every screen we can find to figure out what is happening. how are russians going about this, and how are they trying to find verified information to them? well, there's, you know, the state t, v narrative and then there's critical media. they're reporting something totally different. and they're increasingly under pressure, as is the internet and also social media. we seen facebook slowed down several other media as social media outlets as well. and i expect that that kind of pressure is going to increase in the coming days and week days and weeks as well. d w is emily. sure. when thank you so much for all the some sites will fighting between russian and ukrainian forces is intense and chaotic. let's now turn over to d, w. william glue, croft who has the latest on the military situation on the ground. that's right. military analysts are saying that russian forces have taken what they're calling aid operational pause. now that doesn't mean that fighting has stopped. what it does mean is that there's been no major attempts to push further into ukraine. so
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let's have a look at where the battle lines currently are. and just a reminder, these are estimates, they're changing rapidly. they're based on analysis from quite far away actually, but we can show you how russian force of pushing from 3 different sides. we've been seeing this from the north, from rushes ally in belarus, the east through the separatist control, douglas, and from the south, from crimea that was annexed in 2014 illegally by vladimir putin. but they don't see me making quite as much progress as may be. some russian leaders and military planners might have hope. by this point, there's been report of reports of supply issues and fiercer than expected resistance from the ukrainian side. in the east. russian troops haven't really made it that far out of don. this, which is an area they or their allies already control that some good news for ukraine. but you can see the danger coming from the south where they've been pushing up from russian held crimea. and the danger here is if you can connect this troops in the south with the troops in the east,
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they'll have sealed off basically, ukrainian forces in the eastern part of the country, making it much harder to defend other parts of ukraine. now if we look further into cave, just one city that's been taking a huge bombardment from russian forces. one of many cities getting hit, you have forces coming down from beller is not far, keith, not far from the border. they're coming down from the north and it appears that russian forces have at least control of some part of the northern part of the ukrainian capital with ukrainian forces, trying to hold defensive positions north of the city. we can see here were the presidential offices in the downtown area of that capital. now there may be a pause on the ground, but of course missile and air structure taking place here in key, even of course, all around the country. and this pause we're hearing about as likely to end, maybe as soon as tonight,
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which is when russian forces have been conducting their operations these last few days. now make no mistake. while exact figures are very hard to come up with, this is a bitter, brutal battle taking place in heavily populated civilian areas. you can see it right here. for example, people are dying and the worst may yet to come, especially russian forces move into even other cities with heavy armor and bigger weapons. it's gonna depend on just how far russian president vladimir putin wants to go in provoking his, in pushing his unprovoked invasion of ukraine. let's keep talking about the military side of this conflict. we can now talk to dr. jack, what lang? he's the research fellow for land warfare at the royal united services institute in london. dr. watley, welcome to d. w. president. putin has put his countries deterrence forces,
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including its nuclear weapons system, on high alert. how worrying is that? i don't think that's particularly worrying the russians message with requirements in 2014. they have made comments to sweden, the sweden would be, you know, have them pointed out that there's a joint nice overall moved in that direction. so this is a fairly standard way of the russians making a point that the west shouldn't get involved. and essentially trying to, to intimidate people into not schools and you cry. but that doesn't mean they intend to use them. all right, i'm sure a lot of people are happy to hear you say that you've written about the practical steps people should take to prepare for a potential siege of keys. what can civilians do at this point? i think before the city is fully cut off, it's very important that people still to stockpile non perishable foods. and if you have perishable foods,
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then while you still have access to power and starts to strengthen your, your home and your position by booting up windows using competency, you don't have a lot of materials like 10 putting furniture against in cycles, injury rules. so the lie down behind it and then also stop calling medical supplies, in particular making bandages 20 case and gathering things like clean film, which you can use to wrap around. and then having medical personnel teach civilians how to apply those things. we actually saw today in picture of mt shelves and ukrainian supermarket, so it looks like people are very much already preparing for a scenario like that. how long could people in key of survive the situation? historically people survives a long time to see it, but it becomes more and more difficult as time goes on. the really critical one is water. once for to kill ation,
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that's cause i main supply of water. then that becomes a very limiting factor. you can only really go with that whole test for up to 3 days after that food becomes a critical challenge. and then the one is, i mean, the route of the ukrainian started to conflict with around 10 days. with that, i mean mission in that tactical units and if they're not able to resupply units that obviously they won't be able to resist. let's talk about something that has surprised security and defense experts around the world for weeks. we have been hearing that russia army is, of course, far superior to that of ukraine, but they haven't progress as far as most had expected. how do you explain that? so the russians thought initially that they would try and rapidly get bombs to capture a key cities and they shock and all would kind of terrify ukrainians. it's not resisting that very clearly didn't work. but there's a 2nd challenge, which is that they haven't really briefed
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a lot of the units on when they were supposed to be going exactly how they were supposed to be operating. and so we've seen some real bad coordination between the russian fighting units. now that they realize that this is going to be a hard fight. they have this operational toll as they started to shake counts and sets up their artillery. and we're probably going to see them starting to fights in a more conventional manner, which uses a lot more find out. and that will be more effective. it's worth noting that the russians hadn't committed all of that troops and that 1st week. so they have many more units that they can push into, right. do you think ukraine's military can keep up the fight against reinforcement been brought in by but i think the ukrainians are going to fight for as long as they can. i don't see any chance of them surrendering the 1st challenge is whether they run out of ammunition. but the 2nd one is that as the russians at hans,

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