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inflamed ukraine for causing the war by mistreating russians, quarters, and break away regions, one of them well, horrible, gross. this definitely persuaded us that we could no longer ignore the suffering to people. in don bos, the leaders of breakaway regents turned to us for military support. monday's emergency session of the un general assembly lays the groundwork for resolution members will vote on later in the week. in part, it demands russia immediately stops its attack and withdraws all troops from ukraine. it's a national criminal court in the hague will launch an investigation of the situation in ukraine following russia's invasion to prosecutor current can says, there is a reasonable basis to believe, allege war crimes and crimes against humanity have been committed in the attack. neither of the 2 countries are members of the i, c. c, but ukraine has accepted its jurisdiction in the past. russia for its part, does not recognize the court's authority. it's all me,
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while amnesty international and human rights watch have accused russia of using cluster ammunition and vacuum bulbs on civilians, weapons a band under the geneva convention. but moscow is not part of that international treaty. for more on that, imo joint bible in the crated obvious chief political correspondent, permanent. welcome back to the, to the studio that you have covered. the bolcom was in the ninety's and the and suing of war crimes trials there. this think was going to be seeing indictments against flood me put in. i think we're quite likely will, and not only against him, but perhaps even 1st against those commanders who have used a prohibited weapons or treated combatants in ways that are prohibited under the laws of war. we have, in fact, seen the russian defense ministry saying that combatants have been eliminated, obviously, then not taken prisoner as the law would require,
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but simply executed in, for example, the airport outside of kia. and so certainly those cluster munitions that you just described. amnesty international says it has proof that a cluster bomb was dropped on the nursery and kindergarten in the sunni region. all of those could be war crimes, and i think the prosecutor is right to investigate them. and what happens then if there are real indications of such crimes is that they 1st look to establish a chain of command begins with those who give the orders on the ground. but it goes up to the commander in chief and that is vladimir putin. and that's exactly what we saw in yugoslavia. indeed, with cases that built the argument that eventually reached milosevic, who in fact led those very brutal campaigns in the 1990 s. that we talked about nato's role, both of the balkans and right now. right now notice as ukraine is not the major my
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bow and o'connor in interfere there. and yet they did in the, in the, in the balkans. what is a say indeed. so again, starting with the international law on the matter, there is an overall prohibition on the use of force by countries. there are 2 exceptions to that. one is self defense or collective defense. the collective defense exception would apply to nato. if ukraine were a member, but of course it is not and the other one is an action that is authorized by the security council. so for example, in the case of kuwait, if you remember, after iraq invaded kuwait invaded kuwait in early 1991. in fact, the secret curity council did issue a resolution entitling parties. countries to essentially go to kuwait's defense. that's not gonna happen here. russia has firmly blacked it blocked any action on
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the part of the security council. so could countries, none the less get together in a kind of coalition of the willing to help ukraine under the circumstances. there is some international law for so called right to protect. it's hazy, but the reality of this that was the legal side, the reality is a, the adversary is russia and it's armed with nuclear weapons and it has made it clear that it might be prepared to use them. so nobody is going to go down that path at the moment, at least. so monday ukrainian president signed a formal application for you. membership and zalinski is going to be addressing that you in roughly 2 hours time, which will be carrying live. of course here on the w's. but how is this application for you? membership are going to be received. well, it's so getting quite a bit of support, for example, from the president of the commission who said earlier this week that she absolutely
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would be in favor of this yesterday. the slovenia and foreign minister visited his colleague, molina burbock here in berlin, and said that he absolutely supports this. other voices have joined that course. and alina burbock was more cautious. she pointed out that in fact, there are a number of hurdles that ukraine would have to overcome. the you has conditions that are not all that different from nato's, for example, that comes to countries need to have a stable, transparent, non corrupt government ukraine's working on that. but it still has a ways to go. so this is not something that would happen overnight, but clearly it's another idea of how do we bring ukraine into the western fold. it's not going to be a member of nato any time soon. could being a member of the you help it somehow and one very concrete way that it's already helping the a you for the 1st time ever has promised military assistance to ukraine. 500000000
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euros. that's a lot of assistance. and therefore, that clearly is an endeavor on the part of the you and ukraine to establish some kind of bond that could provide some support. where you just have clearly mirrors well public opinion in germany here there's a new poll out on a 69 percent say the fear that russian aggression could lead to a 3rd world war. 78 percent support supply. ukraine with weapons, but only less than half support except to ukraine as and they told member because of concern about that. then article 5, the collective action article that would require germany and other nato members to defend ukraine as if its territory were their own. indeed, very difficult facing that adversary. russia and uh, of course, many actual nato members feeling very imperiled at the moment by russia's actions
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wondering if they could be next, despite the simply reflects the fact that for many germans, this is a wrenching moment. they have believed for decades that their country through dialogues, through diplomacy, through good commercial relations with other countries, including russia, could somehow insure moderation and stability. and they have woken up as their chancellor said in his address to parliament on sunday in a different world. and they're, they're needing time to adjust and there's a lot of a fear, of course, in many places as it was in the you just said that the adversary is russia full for many years. and he and he taught, but german police, european politicians, they would talk about our friends and partners in russia is russia now. and that was area for good, not a partner anymore. it's so hard to say vladimir putin, russia looks a lot like that, but as well, you know,
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we both watched the berlin wall fall. we watched the iron curtain go down. we watched an incipient friendship between russia and the west under both gorbachev and yet seen. so again, things could change, but at the moment, vladimir putin is clearly intent upon war and that makes him for now and his country an adversary the crime. thank you very much for this analysis. i'm united nation says more than 600. 60000 people have fled ukraine since the invasion began. the majority have so far headed to poland. un fears that number could rise to 4000000 in the coming weeks. shelters have been set up along the border with ukraine. this report comes from project michelle went. ordinary polish people are giving some of the refugees a warm welcome. another train arrives at pre jama. shall station in poland
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on board. refugees who were fleeing from the neighboring walls zone in ukraine. most arriving here are women, children and the elderly. at the moment, ukrainian man 8 between 18 and 60 who are fit for military service and not allowed to leave ukraine. will point them. it is heartily very hard, especially for little children. but somehow we did it, and we're here now. i am glad for the children, but i am very worried about the family members who decided to stay in ukraine with us. we are so grateful to the polish people who are helping ukraine putting is a sick man. something is wrong with him. if he were smart, he wouldn't have begun the war in the 1st place. we're living the 21st century gospel, a teaching volunteers give the refugees food and every day items they might
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find useful in the main whole cocks have been lay down so ukrainians can rest outside the station. volunteers often than you come as a free ride to the next city. they take them to cut to reach a crack out, or even berlin on people i can give 3 people a ride. for example, a woman and 2 children. i am willing and able to help my mother the most. poland is well prepared for this stream of people. for weeks they've been following government orders to set up 8 centers like this one called ukranian house to offer help, including temporary accommodation. but these are chaotic times and not every one fling ukraine has found poland, quite so welcoming, including foreign students,
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the ukrainians world war let in good for under foreigners, noah. so going to get their dorms like some have also complained of pulled treatment at the hands of ukrainian border gods hold. the black people are the people, especially big while i sold, made them little. what they are gone to to them have minds. there was no way like just people want to do. they stop us like got see our they didn't lead optimal land and people, dad who like aggressive poll says it's admitted around 3 150000 people for more than a 120 countries. with more raging just a few kilometers away, sympathy for the refugees is mixed with a fear of what might come next. well the majority of ukrainian refugees on our neighboring countries not only poland, but also hungary, bulgaria, moldova, and romania. several european rail companies have promised free travel to refugees
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further into the continent, volunteers are offering their support at railway station. for example, here in balloon. the train is from war saw, but some of its passengers have escaped hell. the 1st refugees and what is the largest war in europe this century among them, vito, who until just days ago, enjoyed a peaceful life in shitoria northwest ukraine. thus for a fear in frances, it was february 24th of thus while it was very sudden, so on sex, who are my mother called me at 6 a. m and told me you were at war vida. the greek by owns shun. thus were zacks were every one started panicking and aloida o 6 o'clock in the morning or you were still sleeping? why the light did not get laughing? a welcome committee has set up here at berlin central station to help the new
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arrivals find their way. organizers use the messaging up telegram to coordinate offers of shelter, clothes, food, and language skills. there's like large telegram groups where we can just shoot a message and ever ask if there's like an accommodation for 2 or 3 people and then somebody would say, yeah, here i can pick somebody up. it's all private right now. i have a lot of fruits. i have mostly bars robertson, oh, nuts, just simple things that i could pass as people move to their next location. a man, the daughter of a somali and refugee was summoned to help by family history. an issue that's pretty close to my heart, my dad and his family arrived in the us as refugees from somalia. i am half german . and so i really felt as there was a crisis and people were coming that i was going to show up because someone did it
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for my own family. rita is now trying to reunite with her son in western germany. but the trauma we shouldn't days is impossible to forget. yeah, haben urban acton emma in, we'd been sleeping in the basin in ghana. her there had been emma, we were constantly alert him, or boom boom there, while we see bomb zonker tangs driving down the street. i'll just throw so it was frightening. now yet, and terrible. and people were panicking. it was really our fiber let to surprise then that european governments are expecting many more desperate people to follow in vito's footsteps in search of peace to many of those of course children we are now joined by irina so goin she's the eastern europe director for safe that children international and joining us from the medium capital,
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the urban rena. what's the situation like for children in ukraine right now? yeah, thank you very much with, with, with number with mom. i was afraid that we have a very, very bad all your line to you. they're near yvonne, let's try and we establish that. and maybe we can come back to you a little later in the program. marina sarielle, they're from say the children might be apologized to views for this poor audio quality. and we're coming to our next story.

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