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lands on because this place for them is as good as any other poland, bearing the brunt their off, that a huge influx of refugees from ukraine. and paula being a country that has been reluctant in the past to take in refugees from the middle east. for example, how come there's such a shift in the mindset now? that's very hard question to answer on your right in the past of poland was among the countries in the u that would always blocker a common migration. and the child policy, for example, would refuse to take in people from the middle east. now the situation is very different. prime minister of his more, i guess he said in the statement a couple days ago that he was very happy and he was overwhelmed by how polish people were actually helping pitching in trying to receive equal here. um, so what, what caused this change sentiment not really clear on perhaps a candidate could be that polish government feels
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a more closely or fuels more for the people coming from from ukraine because of their geographic and perhaps cultural closeness. but also because since there is a war going on at their doorstep so well in the past, them not taking people in from, from the new list. most likely a result of phobia. there is a lot more attention. there's a lot more pressure on the situation now, and it would look very bad for the polish government to not do anything that being said, most people here on the ground must force people. i spoke to a very, very key on helping they're doing their utmost to help people on the ground. but there also have been some reports of people who are opposing what's going on here right now here in this town. essentially, yesterday, there has been attack on, on a german activist from an as your workers there. we've heard reports of protection, steamy nationals and on a journal as well. so there's also
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a lot of misinformation and rumor spread about people who are now ukrainian nationals coming here which tend to be non say so. but nevertheless of people some people believing did have you correspond mcsaunder that the polish ukrainian border . thank you very much. was of ukrainians living abroad are watching with horrors, war and gulps their country. many have been involved in organizing huge peace rallies in recent days. d w met one young ukrainian, the busy building support for their course. in the germany is capital berlin. i 18 year old bladder is a ukranian living in berlin. she's a student and an actress. oh, some of not. his family remained trapped in a big ukrainian city. she does not want us to name to protect their safety. i got
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to take them in my father and sister. my whole family is still in ukraine. we're very big family. so good to every one of my 4 hands, my mother and he attending my boyfriend. my point planner is part of a grassroots ukrainian initiative in berlin wisher they have mobilized thousands of people for their course on sunday. hundreds of thousands turned out on the streets of berlin, protesting the war flatter, and her friends organized one of the rallies. oh, i, after their protests, the group meets in this bar to organize space. medusa is a hot spot for eastern europeans in berlin. to a v marie. your next riley needs to be planned. but it's also
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a place where everybody from the group can release their stress. each good that's good to be with. oh, together they follow the news and comforts each other. sometimes i felt and maybe still feel guilty that i am not there. busy with them right now, sometimes i just want to crash everything in my home because if i can or do anything to save my save my parents, save my friends. i'm just like i'm, we're doing this demonstrations, but still i feel so powerless. and yeah, i can do anything it just one of the strong for them and i hope that would contribute and what they say and what it to is so strong enough for them to view it because all my strength comes from them. when i say that, i'm gonna come out and scream at the top of my lungs every day,
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and i'm going to stand until i know that the people i love are safe than i actually mean it. oh, okay. and so they sing for peace, for their friends, for their loved ones in ukraine. oh, and for their country. oh . as a closer look at the situation on the ground in ukraine now, in the week since the invasion started, the russian military has attacked cities across the country. russian forces claim to have taken control of class on ukraine's south close to crimea. further to the east, the port city of mario pool is under heavy attack. you can't 2nd city harkey is coming under renewed bombardment today. after days of sustained attacks and in the
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capital, keith, the main tv tower and the nearby holocaust memorial were hit by russian missiles. and for more background on a lot analysis, i'm no joined but all of this cool. his director for arms control at the institute for peace research and security policy at the university of hamburg. thanks for joining us on the w. news. mister. good. it's day 7 of the invasion. the russians seem to be stepping up their assault. do you think we're about to see a major escalation there? good morning. yeah, that is exactly what i fear for the next couple of days. i think we're going to see an increase in the intensity of fighting. we're going to see more heavy and indiscriminate shelling use of artillery by the russian side, less hesitancy to kill civilians overall. i think it's going to get more brutal and we will see many more horrifying images from the great. now,
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us defense official says the large russian military convoy that's heading towards the capital q for more than 24 hours now is to have stalled a. can you offer an explanation there? it's difficult to tell at the moment, but it seems like that the russian campaign is kind of dis organize. it seems that the invasion plan seemed to be sloppily drafted. and i would say that the overall morales, the russian forces seems very low. and at the same time, it looks to me like the russians have really underestimated the will of the ukrainians to fight. and also they are a military capabilities. so i think also playing out here as an additional bonus, that is the ukrainian forces. they know the terror, they know where to hide and they're in an ongoing wall with russia and the don boston's a 2014 so the ukrainians up and not talking that large column that's just sitting there. why do you think that is i honestly
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don't know at the moment. i know there have you avi's turkish drones available to attack that column? why they're not doing it at the moment. it seems like there are focusing on the russian supply lines because the russians also have a problem with a supply. there are reports that they don't have enough diesel and that they're running short of food. so perhaps that's the tactic of the ukrainians 1st attack the supply lines and then cut off this large problem. so several western countries and then did the european union decide announced in a recent days they'd be sending military equipment to ukraine further military equipment? can they still make a difference? i think it can make a difference. i think that's why it's morally justified at the moment to send in more weapons and we're seeing that particularly anti tank munitions surface to air
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missiles. lex thing on massage are really making a difference for the ukranian forces. so in that regard, i think that we're going to see the continuing that policy or the school there from the institutes, a piece research and security policy at hamburg university. thank you very much for joining us here on the w. news. was a pleasure. and let's have a quick recap of the situation on the ground in ukraine, russian forces, or intensifying their attacks on ukraine's main cities. russia claims and has taken control of care. sana city in the south close to crimea, the governor there says it's completely surrounded. you grant 2nd city harkey 1st coming under renewed bombardment to day of the days of sustained attacks and air raid sirens have again sounded in the capital keefe a day after as strikes hit the city a russian missile strikes a tv tower in cave in her cave
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a government building goes up in flames. both attacks killed people. russia is ramping up. it's assault on ukraine. as a 60 kilometer long, russian convoy of armored vehicles closes in on the capital. thousands of ukrainians still desperately trying to flee. though, staying behind a facing the horrors of war, washington, we had a fight at 5 am. is the color. the below we were retreating and near us a meter away from me. it was a mine both my friends, arms and legs, myrtle great. otherwise. i tried to save him, i pulled him away, but he didn't make it. yeah, your demo, the room knows absolutely follows. all right,
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you're all married. ukraine's president, valona me. zalinski has asked nato to set up a no fly zone and has also applied to join the european union. a fighting process is lose and just for our land. and for freedom, alicia diesel might deciding all large cities of our country now long. we are, i say no, soon to be equal members of europe. i believe san today, me with showing everybody. that's exactly what we are used to do, prove that you are with us. so we do prove that you will not let us go. it was an impassioned plea for help. as the political discussions
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continue, the ukrainian fighting spirit remain strong. and what are joined on the phone by andrea cartoon. our fee is the head of the russian international affairs council. as a moscow based think tank that was founded by the various russian institutions, including the foreign ministry. you are one of russia most respected foreign policy experts tell us who has advised the russian president to invade ukraine and why? well, i don't think i can answer the question. i can only argue that i don't think the diplomat, the foreign ministry or think tanks or do i seem to do that because to the best of my knowledge, all the experts are mom, the respectful, think tanks are considered or this operation to be inconceivable. or we did our cost benefit analysis, and i think all of us maybe, with very few exceptions,
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concluded if you, even if you put all the ethical considerations aside, we all concluded that russia has a lot to lose, but not much to gain even you for the military operation is successful. okay, then ask you another killer question. what does putin want? you should probably put in, but i think that he's the least of demand by and 1st of all he does want you paying to join nature and he does want to create to cooperate with nita in the military technical field. second, i think he, once you came to the go, what he claims to be met, dean is if you cation or berlin, which means that the nationalist courses should be somehow much in love. you not area home the political scene. apparently he would like ukraine to recognize the
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independence of the republic. so guns can carry publics. and i think that the ideal decision solution for the term then would be to reset the ukranian state culture completely. so let's talk about the, the russian state apparatus is how controversial is this war? can you give us a feeling about whether there's large support inside the state inside the government for to teens for well, let me say so that they say that in my view, of course, people who are dealing with economic and financial issues within the government should assess the implication of this military ration they should have a clear understanding of sanctions and what sanctions might mean for the russian
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economy for the russian financial system. but as we hear from a put in the leaders in the russian government, they argued that sanctions are on their way to go. that it really doesn't matter what the russia can do or what it will not do. sanctions will be the year because the, the west is hostile to russia once they lead to disappear from the map of the world. so there's a lot of talk about the only docs and how the sanctions are targeted also to those very, very rich russians who may or may not be connected to lead me to teen. tell us about their influence and whether the sanctions on then will actually have an effect. well, i think the effect is controversial. of course, some people closer to their actually the ship will be targeted to and will south
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for actually they already a south term because the changes in the exchange rate, the losing a lot of money already. but on the other hand, i think what happens with oligarchs is that the sanction help, there are some leadership to re nationalize the economically of the country because that many of these people would try to position themselves as citizens of the world . and kind of, you know, independent economic actors about right now seems to the prosecutor in the rest the day we'll have to get back to the cabin for support and protection. so way you know, what goes on right now might help the russian leadership to counsel day to the economic elite over the counter on the coming is anyone around to teen is in
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a circle who could be brave enough to contradict the president? i don't think so. i think that we saw the meeting or the security council. i think the unanimous in support and the present and besides, you know, for the time being, if you look at the opinion polls, you'll find out that the majority of fashion, so also support actions of the come in in the ukraine. because the belief is that it's not a war against ukraine. it's an operation to liberate the opinion people from the evil rest and influence. so, but how, how long will ordinary russians by this theory and except to be sanctioned and punished for a war that as i understand many of them didn't want in the 1st place? well, we don't know. we do not know how strong the support is and what is needed to bring
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this down. i can suspect that it's about the length of the operation. it's about the collateral damage inflicted by the ration. it's about the price that has to pay for that in blood pressure. you know, it's more or less sorry to say that standard situation when there is a war, people tend to rally around the flag, the war own girl. or maybe they have 2nd thoughts about the goals that are set for the military operations. and they can have 2nd ideas about what they should do and how they should have acted. that's talk about the way out of this a crisis. what needs to happen from your perspective to find a solution for this? well, 1st of all is clear that there should be ations between our options and ukrainians
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. i can understand that it will be very difficult to find common grounds right now . the positions diametrically opposed that constitutes a problem. maybe they will need some kind of mediation in an institution or a person who expect it on both sides who have access for knows the problem. you know, someone like from a chancellor angela america might to be the right person to see the 2 sides to find some, at least interim compromise, to stop the logic. now, that was the 1st talk between russia and ukraine on monday. they're supposed to continue, but as it stands now, russia goes into these negotiations, basically, demand a ukraine's cancellation is going to change. whoa, we don't know. i think that they will partially depend on law. how the corporations,
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the theme i think, are both sides believe for that. no, i'm. uh huh. making their case stronger or ukraine apparently believes that that would be in a position to mobilize the international support or in the garage or leadership. they believe that they can accomplish the mission that they put for themselves. so bob, you should have touched on positions. it's very difficult to reach a compromise. andre cross talk or thomas, are there the head of the russian international affairs council? thank you very much for joining us. welcome back. now, russia's invasion of ukraine and the western sanctions that we've just discussed against moscow are disrupting supply chains, which are yet to recover from the corona virus. pandemic aviation, and shipping phase major logistical problems in germany. carmakers b m w and folks fargo have halted production due to problems sourcing key
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components from ukraine. the closure of russian aerospace because of the invasion is set to cause massive restrictions on international air, cargo and traffic. cargo flights and passenger aircraft to asia have to take a different route. lufthansa, cargo says that flights from central europe to japan, korea and china may take up to several hours longer and could carry up to 20 percent less freight. this will make flights and freight more expensive. shipping is also feeling the consequences of the war and the sanctions against russia. the world's largest shipping container company, maersk, suspended all container deliveries to and from russia. free traffic with russia is at a standstill. factories in europe as big as economy germany are worried about bottlenecks, especially when it comes to raw materials and intermediate products. and also possible price increases german carmakers have around $50.00
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suppliers and manufacturing sites and russia and ukraine as well. it is still too early to predict what impact the war will have. russia and ukraine are among the largest exporters of wheat, accounting for about one 3rd of global exports. but these exports are now at risk. and this is hitting poor countries in africa and latin american particular as the regions are dependent upon cheap imports of wheat. ton of a quick recap of the latest from ukraine. russian forces are continuing their attacks on ukraine's main cities. russia claims it has taken control of the city of carson in ukraine, south. the governor there says the city is completely surrounded. elsewhere a government building was on fire, the 2nd city of cock, if after renewed bombing authorities say more than 20 people have been killed and a 100 injured in our cave off the days of continuing ass strikes and the mayor of
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the port city maria poll says it is under constant bombardment. thou russia's war on ukraine is also shaken up the world of classical music. top conductor valeri gag if has been fired from his post as chief conductor of the munich philharmonic. full failing to criticize his longtime allied vladimir putin, across europe and the u. s. russian artists with ties to the kremlin, have been put on notice. speak out against putin or face being cancelled. ah, one of the world's most visionary conductors, and a long time ally of russian president vladimir putin. for years concert houses in the west looked past conductor. valerie gear gibbs close ties to rushes, authoritarian leader. but after putin ordered the invasion of ukraine, many are finding that impossible, and are demanding the conductor distance himself from putin. new york's carnegie
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hall cancelled garr gives appearance. so has lascola opera house in milan. in germany, munich, mayor gave garry give an ultimatum, denounced putin's war against ukraine and against munich sister city, kiev, or lose his job as chief conductor of the munich philharmonic. dare give didn't respond. on tuesday, the mayor fired him one of the world's top opera singers on an a trip co has also been a long time putin supporter. in 2014, she made headlines, posing with a russian separatist leader and flag in eastern ukraine. last year, the russian soprano celebrated her 50th birthday with a gala at the kremlin this past weekend under enormous pressure netroadshow posted on social media. i am opposed to this war. i want this war to end and for people to be able to live in peace. but she stopped short of criticizing, pu tim,
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saying artists shouldn't be forced to take political stances. that stance was not enough to save her high profile concerts in the us. and europe after increased pressure for her to sever ties with putin trap got cancelled all performances in the west saying it was not the right time for her to perform it. what she did have been used before the break. he has a quick recap of what's happening in ukraine. russian forces are continuing their attacks of ukraine's main cities, the regional government building and how cliff was on fire following days of as strikes and russia claims. it has taken control of the city of paris on an ukraine south after the 5th fight german console of shorts. is it israel? and his 1st official visit that he said, both germany and israel would attempt to bring russia and ukraine together for negotiations on ending moscow's invasion. israel has been supported,
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ukrainian jews while keeping positive relations with the credit of coverage of the russian invasion of your friend continues. in the next hours you have his website is also a great place for updates. any time for the day. i'm gonna have office in berlin from the news team here. many thanks for watching. i'll be back in a few minutes. with
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