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attack a target twice, there's a lot of work that's been done to show that that shows intent. now, intent is often the hardest thing to prove when going after war crimes, and that will probably be the largest challenge, especially in this case. but the early indication show that this particular example could be a war crime, right? and war crimes investigators are particularly interested in the weapons use. just talk us through what they can tell us will cluster bombs are good example. and there are indications that russian forces are using cluster bombs and urban areas. now in this footage, you can see a cluster like explosions happening within a residential building. now we spoke to a military experts to identify what kind of attack was happening here. and they told us that this is most likely a cluster bomb. now the only other weapon it could have been would have shown larger explosions, closer to the surface of the building. now the problem with cluster bonds is that
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the indiscriminately harm civilians and enact devastation, especially in urban settings such as this one. and so when, when war crimes investigators, when they start seeing the use of cluster bombs in a conflict, it usually signals a sign that, you know, there's quite possibly war crimes being committed here. and in this case in ukraine, there's also been a lot of talk about russia alleged use of foam, or barrick bombs. just explain what they are please. so the past couple of days there's been a lot of videos and images being shared on social media showing the purported use of thermal barrick bombs and launchers being taken by russian armed forces to battlefield across ukraine. now we're still in the process of verifying this content and but early indication show that there could be credence behind the material. now the problem with thermal barrick weapons is that the off they take
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place in 2 stages. the 1st stage releases the chemical into the air, while the 2nd one releases an incendiary explosion, which effectively uses oxygen to maximum effect. now, why is this problematic? because these contact under the geneva conventions, these types of bombs are prohibited because they do not. they, they do not discriminate between combatants and civilians. and so what we've been seen across over the past week is that there's a growing, a use of prohibited weapons and the growing targeting of civilian areas. and this is worrying sign now. now, if this pattern continues to emerge in the coming days and weeks, this could be the impetus for war crimes. prosecutors to move forward with an indictment of the perpetrators. thank you for that to let us learn. sanders from d w's investigative unit of un refugee agency. says the number of people slain you, crime has now passed
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a 1000000 may hit the fastest exodus on refugees of this century. most are having toward poland, but neighboring countries like romania and moldova are also taking people in. but some are having to wait longer than others to cross to safety. as the w correspondent, funny for shaw saw when she visited pub rodney on the romanian border. finally here, thousands are pouring towards the ukrainian border with romania as word spreads of the tail back of refugees of the polish crossing with harrowing image is still in our minds and few items in their hands. they arrive at the last checkpoint to safety oksana and her kids needed 4 days to get here from keith on her mind. what's ahead. they're going to look for worse, she car because i need to provide for my children. and my husband stayed to defend his country. you know, men are fighting age between 18 and 60,
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have to stay there also many non ukrainians who want to leave students migrant workers. about half a 1000000 according to you and estimates. hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives, heading west for the border. not all these people from across ukraine are running from the same thing. but are they all getting the same treatment? i've met flat from heavily bon pad, keith, a student from egypt. he says his growing frustrated about being made to wait in freezing temperatures while ukrainians are led through the lay. let us only pers, of to like o tonners of coons, we will was i can say anything or others. what still we are humans also like visit us? any bishop care more. lots of met says he has already been to leave it but was not let through at the border with pool and there we are far away from other countries as the same situation. swore also on us. i don't think we should be for
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them to live around to live. right. his friend also from egypt disagree. this way. i feel the world's is beeble. thee have no home to go. and actually we have home we have is are to, we can go now like you see, but they don't have any list to those officials here do not want to talk on camera about why they are 2 lines, one for foreigners, one for ukrainians. but they tell us, their goal is to maintain con, here. they're concerned that the situation might get out of control as more refugees take the alternative route to romania. we are not allowed to firm i've met and his friend crossed the border. but after a few hours, they do, just like thousands of others. finally to safety law reporter filed by d w sir fanny fisher, who joins us from near the border with romania and more dover. welcome funny. and let's start with some of the human stories that people are telling you,
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what are you hearing and there so many individual stories fell in fact just between his life reporting service doing here in char nifty, 50 kilometers away from the romanian border. it's really hard to even just digest what we hear seriously. that is some people need 4 days at least if not even more to make it older, if on how to keep or from keep all the way here. some of them went already to live but couldn't get through, they say, and now they're trying to cross to romania border again, others feel guilty of leaving people behind their grandparents. for example, one young a student a told me that she's really feeling agony for her grandparents rained in northern part of this country without heating, without a medical supplies. and she just cannot leave ukraine while, as she doesn't feel like that her grandparents are safe. so some people are in a way stranded here. many others cannot even stay here because they're not enough. a hotel. so any free rooms at this point and the ones that are, are super, super,
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very, very expensive in fact. so you see and hear very different accounts as people arrive here. but of course, many of them who made a t, i just tried to leave exit this country. and somehow i bring a little bit of a piece for the children, especially. and what they have been through over over the past week and give them a little bit of a pause wherever that next destination may be, as they're crossing the border to romania under for the 2 killers of people trying to get out of the country. there's what's in your report, it looks like a brown queue on one side, under white queue on the other. what justification, all sources are giving for apparently giving preference to one over the other official say has nothing to do with skin color, but basically the passport you carry, they say, to city, to put a system in place if a ukrainians and none ukrainians to maintain. com,
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they actually claimed that a couple of days ago, some foreigners, indians, they claim be, cannot verify this independently. whether this is true. but they say that is foreigners were trying to cross the board of violence because they were soon edge. so a fool of harrowing experiences from how to keep from where they came apparently that he just wanted to leave. so after that incident, the officials told us at the, at the border that day i stablished is to line system. now, a definitely provokes different reactions from foreigners, song that we listened to, they at the board a said to definitely feel treated like 2nd class. how is it possible that they have to wait there while others ukrainian so just passing through while again, other for those who have spoken to said in a way they can understand because the ukrainians do not have a home to go to why they who enter the country ukraine, let's say a few years ago, at least have the origin, the origin or destination, even though it's not clear how they are going to get back to, for example, edge,
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syria, egypt. and from all to all the other countries that originally from. so it's really a mixed emotions there at the border and not just here with the romania border, but also of course be af sienna in images and, and, and videos. but also from hearing from our reports at the border there that really it is a contents in at the board as people are trying to exit a very horrible situation in ukraine. and it cannot be fast enough for them. obviously also given a via the the climate right now it's winter, it is cold and people are just simply tired. they want to leave i thank you for that. a funny for shaw reporting off a border with western ukraine. thank you. meanwhile, germany looks like it's going to supply more weapons to ukraine. a government source, as berlin has agreed to provide 2700 anti aircraft, missiles, weapons a soviet design,
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stella missiles from the stalks of the former east german armed forces. germany is already committed to delivering 1000 anti tank weapons and 500 surface to where missiles of berlin recently reversed the longstanding policy of not exporting a weapons to conflict zones. let's look at this change in german policy. them with d w's chief international editor, richard walker. welcome richard. and we'll, we'll start with a huge historical irony here that these missiles are soviet designed. that's right. german soviet era, missiles. so these are small enough to be operated by humans. so not a huge amount of, of equipment needed. these don't need to be transported on giant vehicles. and yet they date back to the cold war. these, these are missiles that the east german military used back in the day. and these were also used by many other countries including ukraine itself. so i think the
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thinking here, assuming this is confirmed, we haven't had confirmation yet from the german government, but we are getting obviously those, those reports from in, based on a statement by insiders. that essentially 2 things happening here on the one hand, these are not complicated weapons. they are a type of weapons that many people in the ukrainian military will have been familiar with over the years. and on the other hand, their weapons that germany actually has available because famously, germany, military has been rather starved resources in recent years. and a lot of his equipment is degraded. but this is equipment that evidently wasn't being used. $2700.00 of these now being in for provision to the ukrainians. and so where does this escalation in germany's activity leave it relation, leave the relationship between russia and germany, and indeed russia and other nato countries who are also providing weapons to
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ukraine. yes, ma'am, in germany isn't the only country that is taking a step like this, but it's a huge step for germany. germany had always regarded itself as a kind of a bridge builder between the western russia over many decades. and now of course, with this invasion, that whole role that germany has played is being thrown into question germany very much coming down on the ukranian side saying that this invasion a justifies providing the ukrainians with weapons with which to defend themselves against the innovation that is not justified a tool, and as you just mentioned earlier, some weapons have already be supplied. so this would be essentially that the 3rd of tranche of that the germans, so are stressing at the same time that there's a limit to this. this doesn't mean that germany wants to sort of weighed in to become part of this conflict, and one of the ministers responsible robert har bag. he's the ministry of the economy. also, the vice chancellor was stressing that speaking to reporters,
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saying that we will not become a conflict to the party, to this conflict through actions like this. and that there are clear boundaries that we will always draw right. despite that though, the money is coming to the government, the german government has allocated a special budget worth billions for its armed forces. the bond is there, and this in itself has prompted quite a debate in german politics. so how is this been seen in germany? yes, it is extraordinary. i mean, this speech that all our schoultz, the chancellor barely 3 months in office, took to the podium in the boldest target parliament, just near here in central berlin. and announced that germany would invest one off $100000000000.00 euros in a special fund to essentially re equip the german military. and this is on top of the operational budget of the military and 100000000000 to give you a sense of the scale that we'll see. it sounds like a very large number,
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but it is roughly twice the annual budget of the military. so essentially he was saying, we're going to sort of earmarked this huge amount of cash to get the german military equipment, all of that gear up to snuff for the new for the new challenges presented by russia in this new situation. on top of that, all our shots, promising that germany will for the 1st time in many, many years hit the 2 percent target for g d p for spending on the military on annual regular expenditures. that is something that president after president of the united states is try to persuade germany to do and only got germany up to one point for 1.5 percent of g d p or towards the end of angular miracle's period and office. so in one fell swoop and absolutely massive step taken here by the german government and all the science are that the german public would be very interesting. we are going to be looking at some opinion polling tomorrow,
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here on d w, which will give a really good sense of where the german public is on this. but there are signs that some of the left wing groups groupings, for example, within the social democratic party. that the party of the german shops are so all our shots are not happy with this, and we're seeing see, as this crisis develops, where that those voices grow louder. okay, thank you for that. richard. do normally shoot international editor richard walker . ok, so here's a recap. of the current situation, russia says it has capture the port city of care song in ukraine south, which makes it the 1st major city to fall. since this war began. russian forces are now occupying the cities administration building, but it's unclear whether they're in complete control or ukraine says its troops are still fighting. several of the other cities are under attack, including the capital key at key. and it's 2nd biggest city car if and the port city of many of all the un refugee agencies reporting that more than.
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