a show that settles the issues shaping the continents. life is slowly getting back to normal here on the streets to give you enough reports on the inside. our correspond that was on the ground reporting from across the continent and all the trend stuff. the mob u. t. w, news africa every friday on dw russia's war in ukraine. the skies are becoming more li thought by the day in the northern ukrainian city of chair, naive russian air strikes did this to an apartment building today at least 22 people die. hours later ukrainian president zalinski called on russian, president putin. to stop the war accusing putin of behaving, quote like a beast. i'm burned off in berlin. this is the day.

ah, i want to be very clear about that. mister fulton is a war criminal. i saw a lot of falling down of a lot of bombs. it was like today, all of us here have a choice, stand up and be counted or act like none of this matters. this is mass merck. that's why i can't keep my attention. our soldiers strive to avoid civilian casualties. president putin has proved, he has no respect for human rights. he has to seat behind the bars. international criminal court also coming up in just one week of war. russia has forced 1000000 people. that's 2 percent of the ukranian population to

become refugees fleeing their country. hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives, heading west for the border. not all these people from across ukraine are running from the same thing. but are they all getting the same treatment? ah, but to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with russian gains in ukraine. as the in week of vladimir putin attack on ukraine gets under way. russian forces have now captured their 1st city, the black sea port of harrison. the advance means that russia could soon occupy the entire coast of ukraine, turning it into a land walked country. and there are no signs that russian president putin is considering a you turn after a phone call to day with boots in french, president emmanuel macaroni office issued a pessimistic, read out of the conversation,

saying that hootin seems determined to invade all of you. great on today ukrainian president zalinski appealed to nato in western countries for more military aid, including a no fly zone over his country. zalinski saying if you can't fly the planes, give us the planes and we will fly them ourselves. kitchen us, nothing to thank god forbid. if we are no more than latvia, lithuania, estonia will be next useful and yet mold de la, then i moldova, ga, the poland, boys and so on. they will march to the berlin wall. believe me, when you can in the world, must show its strength without fighting, without losing lives for you. because strength lies in diplomacy. mister k. kennedy will nissan thet diplomat, which was a provided we want to close. the air space over ukraine will come because our children are being deliberately killed the lights,

which almost had it on the pillow, missiles, bombs, jets and bombers are flying from the territory of been a ruse. and russia, ah, i say to the russian oligarchy, and the crop leaders who built billions of dollars off his violent regime no more. the united states, i mean, united states, department of justice is assembling a dedicated task force to go after the crimes of the russian oligarchy. were joining with european allies to find and seized our yachts, the luxury apartments, their private jets were coming for you or ill be gotten gains. that was you as president biden earlier this week, declaring war on russia's oligarchs. they are the ultimate symbol of wealth and influence. floating palaces where the megger rich can live in luxury on the sea,

around the world super yachts are on the move russian. billionaires hiding them to prevent them from being seized as the western world. it takes aim at oligarchy, with links to russian, president boot im french. authorities seized this yacht at a shipyard, new mar, say, where it was undergoing repairs. the vessel belongs to accompany linked to igor, such as the chief executive of russian energy giant rose nephew who is also a close confidant of president putin. or putin, in his inner circle of oligarchs may claim to hate the west. but in reality, they fully embrace its luxury and its lifestyle. russia's richest own expense and property in the capitals of europe. they send their children to western ivy league schools and they hide their wealth in offshore accounts. or now the west is cracking down on the extravagant lives of rushes mega rich targeting those who help

prop up putin's regime economically. western nations have frozen their bank accounts, denied them access to funds and boring them from conducting financial transactions . their tracking and seizing their assets, including yachts, luxury apartments, private jets, and the european union. the u. s. canada have banned russian plains from their air space, grounding the private jets of russian oligarchy. it's one of the tools that allowed western nations to implement economic sanctions against russian oligarchy. so quickly is known as the magnet ski act. it's a u. s. law that punishes russians who are considered to be human rights abusers. my next guest lead a campaign to punish russian officials for the death of his friend sergey magnet sky, and he later lobbied the u. s. congress to pass the magnet ski act. i'm pleased to welcome back to the de built browder bill has been called putin's number one for an

enemy. and as always, bill, it's good to see you. unfortunately, under these circumstances, i just, i want to ask you a week ago when this war broke out, and you saw how quickly europe and the us slapped these sanctions on individuals in russia. what went through your mind? i was surprised. i am, i think that putin or was also surprised. we have, we have seen putin do many terrible things over the last decade. even longer, he invaded georgia. there was no sanctions that he took crimea and the sanctions weren't very serious. he poisoned people in britain, no sanctions. and so he was, he was banking on no, no consequences. and based on what i had seen before, i didn't think anything was gonna happen either as i have to say, as a person who's been calling for these things for, for more than a decade. i, i'm, i'm surprised,

i'm impressed. and i think it's going to have some effect on his psychology. it's not gonna turn him back. but this raises the price of his actions dramatically. yeah. how do you think it is going to change? is it going to change his calculus, or is it going to change the calculus of those oligarchy? who have the got very rich by being in his orbit? well, you should understand these oligarchs are not independently wealthy. they're dependently wealthy. they're dependent on vladimir putin for their wealth. he can take it away at any moment. and so whatever they think doesn't matter. but what these oligarchs do is they hold vladimir putin's fortune as well. they are. the trustees provider mer putin's money because he can't have it in his own name. and so when we're sanctioning oligarchs, we're sanctioning vladimir putin. and that's the purpose of this exercise. and from my perspective, i don't know if he's, i don't think that he has better the better putin has a reverse gear. he can't turn back because it will show weakness. but what we can do is by stripping him of his offshore assets through these oligarchs,

as well as stripping him of his onshore assets, which are the central bank reserves. we eventually get to a place where he doesn't have the money to execute this war. and if he doesn't have the money, then he's got to figure out what he's going to do and, and he can't move forward. and the, and i completely agree with president lensky, which is that he's, ukraine is not the end game here is going to come for latvia, lithuania, austonia, poland, mold, over wherever. and we have to do everything possible, the slow him down to, to deplete his resources. and help the ukrainians in any way possible to stop him from what he's planning to do. what do you think enough sanctions have been imposed to basically dry up the funds that he has for conducting this? no, there's, there needs to be a lot more sanctions done. but literally at moments ago, at the u. s. sanction a few more oligarchs. so did great britain. this is the rowing process more and

more people will be added to the list. i think that the sanctions on the, the swift disconnecting the russian banks from swift, only 70 percent of the banks were disconnected. another 30 percent need to go on that there's a lot more things that need to be done. but where's we seem to be on a trajectory where it's happening? and the decision has been made in principle. and every day that we watch these atrocities, there seems to be more appetite among the allies to do more, to punish putin. and so he's not, he's not getting off scot free on this one and, and he's going to pay a very, very dear price. yep. a 1000000000 a you and i, we've talked over the years about why these sanctions were needed. they were needed long before this war broke out. but even now, we're still seeing that there is this momentum building up more and more sanctions, more and more people targeted people around the world looking at lives. you know, they may be wondering, why don't you just target everyone in his orbit target hooted himself and get this

over with well, we're not gonna, if we should, yes, i totally agree with that. instead of doing it in ones and twos, why not do a 150 oligarchs? yeah, that would certainly make an impression. but, but i should warn everybody that nothing is going to get this over with it. i mean, it's all we can do is to please him, starve him of it, of his money and his resources so that he bet you know, they effectively run out of gas. i don't know if you've seen that, that big, long convoy of 40 miles the outside of key of the reason they're not moving as they literally run out of gas that will less we want to do. moreover, on the whole, russian operation is just take away their resources that they just can't afford to do this anymore. what, what does a, a man like vladimir putin? what does he do when he runs out of gas? he's not gonna come out and ask you for help. he's not going to do that. he's not going to stop and ask for where's the next gas station?

he huffs and he puffs. you know, it's, but at the end of the day, it's not about negotiating with him. he isn't. he doesn't negotiate, he's, he's a thug, he's a criminal. he has no reverse gear. he can't show weakness. and so you just put them in a position where he just physically can't move forward and then you know how he, how he wants to characterize that for his own people. how he wants to define that. that's his business. i don't believe in this whole concept of giving him an off ramp. he doesn't deserve any kind of ramp and we should just stop him and use every tool we have at our disposal and get every ally on board and pressure. anybody who's sitting in the middle to tooth to side on, on the side of right. because he, he just needs to feel completely and absolutely isolated. what about the possibility of these oligarchs that are being targeted? how about them saying ok, enough is enough. we're going to turn on pu to now, how probable is that? as a nice fantasy with it, with like a 0 percent probability,

the oligarchs don't have the wherewithal to do that. he is constantly looking out for betrayal. ah, he's looking he, he's, he's a paranoid little man who's constantly trying to figure out who might do that and get to them 1st. i don't think that's ever going to happen even is that, but he's not, god bill. i mean, all of, all of these people around him, he can't control the minds of every one. isn't there someone in his orbit who's going to feel the pressure so much that they're gonna just snap you know, i would love it if that was true. yeah, i mean if you were watching that day when, when he had all his defense ministers and head of the, you know, the, the secret service and all that kind of stuff. and they were, and he was, i mean, you saw the, the body language these. he was humiliating. these people are it on national television. i mean that everybody is scared of him. he's constantly, you know, he's surveilling, he's bugging he's, he's watching everybody to see whether that any sign of disloyalty and they're all

terrified there are that, i mean, and they're right to be terrified. he's a true monster. he will kill them in an instant beating, sir. there's any chance that they are going to turn on him. let last question for you. then let's say he is put into a corner. he has no money. he has no options. is, is he the person based on what you know? is he the type of person who would say i have nothing left to lose and, but i do have the nuclear option. yeah, sadly that's, that's the, that's the situation we're in, he's them. and that's always been the problem. everybody wanted to tiptoe around him because they thought he was crazy. and he had nuclear warheads. and now we see he is crazy. and he has nuclear warheads. and we're gonna have to figure out how to deal with that. and i, i don't know the answer. and i mean my fear that when he threatens us all with nuclear war, it puts us in a very difficult position. you know, and i just, i wish i knew what the right answer was to that. it's a terrible, terrible scenario, and it's not unlikely. and yet i've been hearing that all week that it's not

unlikely. i hope you're wrong on that one. i hope we don't get to the point where he does threaten us with nuclear war. bilbry elders always good talking with you. let's talk again, sooner rather than later. thank you. thank you. ah, well, one consequence of the war in ukraine is that europe is now scrambling to reduce its dependence on russian energy. the price of gas was already high before the invasion. now that russian soldiers are in ukraine prices have spiked again. natural gas now cost $10.00 times more than that. the start to 2021. gas is still flowing through pipelines from russia to customers in western europe. but if the kremlin were to cut supplies, that would cause a shockwave across the country. one natural gas pipeline which has never gone online and probably never will, is the nord stream to pipeline between russia in germany last week. the german government canceled certification of nord stream to

a step that the u. s. and other european countries had wanted for years. my next guest is benjamin schmidt. he joins me tonight from washington dcs, a former you estate department adviser on european energy security. he's now with harvard university. benjamin. it's good to have you. i after admit, i lost count of how many times you and i have spoken over the years about the dangers of nord stream to you have been sounding the alarm since day one. how do you feel now? well, i'll tell you a brand. thanks for bringing that up, but it's not time for looking back on the history of this. unfortunately, we can do that in the future. we have to save ukraine right now. and the bottom line is, yes, we have been warning about the energy security risks, but also the national security risk of north spring to for years. and part of that is the physical dependency on the ukrainian gas transmission network in and around the line of conduct contact and don boss. and i've talked to you and your viewers

on deutsch avella, a number of times about that. and in the, the point that i was making is that it would make it very difficult given, given that putin would still rely on the ukrainian gas transmission network in the absence of north stream to, to push out from the line of contact. and don bach, given the physical proximity of those pipes that they still rely on to get, get europe from where the fighting was the thing that was missing in that analysis . and i don't think anyone was anticipating in the full scale war across the entirety of ukraine. and that is, that is very, very troubling. indeed, obviously, and my heart goes out to all of my friends and colleagues that i've met over the years that are still in ukraine. but we need more action, not just thoughts and prayers. we need to bring more military aid in the form of, of stingers, and javelins and, and drones, turkish drones, i believe are the,

the most compatible at this point. but also take vital energy security steps in unordered stream to look what we've seen over the past week. is basically berlin doing every single topic that you and i discussed over the years. number one was certification of north spring to was halted and the way it was certified is really important. and i want to tell the viewers what's going on there. because it's so important. so basically under article 11 of the gas directive of, of the european you, you mean 3rd energy package, a member state that's betting the, the energy security or national security risk. the piece of energy infrastructure needs to include, if that piece of infrastructure will harm the energy security of, of the, the member state or the union as a whole. and what our minister hobbit had done is insert language into the assessment that the previous government had made. that said it didn't have any under the security risk, which was obviously false, ought to include national security in there. it's really important because it is

a fundamental see change. finally, berlin has taken into account that energy security is national security. and if not just a commercial deal has been, has been said over the years. your bid may i want you to listen to what the german economics minister said to day. he was talking about energy issues. and yet this is what he said. listen in a saga smith course numbered all. i say this with grace, regret and without any joy for it that germany is dependent on russian energy important. i purchased, they're missing. we must free ourselves from russian energy imports. that includes gas, that includes coal and that includes oil cooler. we're doing everything we can to achieve that. i sure can often benjamin, you know, you know what, this was someone described to, to me to day as an energy come to jesus. moment for germany, but it's taken so long at the signs have been there the whole time. the reality has been there. we've finally got it. is it too little too late?

it can't be too little too late because it has to take place. so we've seen, ah, the, the statements by chancellor sholtes to take very positive, very rapid steps to implement. basically what the european union has been doing to 2015 is an energy union concept to reduce dependency on russian natural gas in particular. so building allen g terminals to import global supply. remember, you and i have pointed out that russian propaganda that was stated by many german support is resorting to was that diversification infrastructure in our us opposition in ordering to with quote unquote justice l u s l n. g will look we're at right now, that is actually what we've been talking about all the time. is national security risks of russian actions like that. and we've seen northridge to be sanctioned. the, the, the corporate officers of north string to a g are also sanction former stars, the officer and putting criminal to

t. it's bonnie is sanctioned in north spring to ag itself was gone, had gone bankrupt, it has been dissolved, all $106.00 employees have been fired. and so i think that that is the final chapter of northridge to now we need to move forward on a european basis to build more floating storage in regards to the cation unit, to increase the gas of occasion, capacity to start planning for next winter rent, or at the end of the heating cycle right now in the spring. but right now we need to be taking action for all in in the next winter. let me ask you this before we run out of time, you're right. we're coming to spring into summer here, but the fall will, it will be here, sooner than you realize and the need for natural gas will be with us again. can you imagine the kremlin than cutting off those pipelines that are flowing across ukraine, for example. come next autumn, next winter. i mean is that a risk that we're already running? i think it's a risk we're running right now today. remember they're going through an active combat known right now. and frank,

heroic ukrainians are still running that to make sure europe is kept warm, they're sitting at their control stations at these gas transmission system operation centers, keeping that gasoline from russia through an active wars zone in ukraine to european customers. and so there that those steps need to take place now to diversify. we need to see your opinion. basically, kicking gas from ownership out of gas storage is in western europe. remember, a lot of gas storage is in western europe are owned or at least partially owned by russian state control gas from this is a massive conflict of interest in a time of national security crisis. we also need to see oil sanctions come on soon, but right now we need to take a 3 phase approach. first, we need to continue to see the global energy trade market continue to avoid russian year old prices. russian year old volume, the year old prices dropped significantly below the global brand price, our benchmark of $18.00 below brent. and that's going to put immediate pressure on

later recruitment. we need to bend the vessel sanctions against the fleets. that of that, russia use us to export the hydrocarbon, and then finally have coordination on the u. s. you basis and globally on sectoral thanks. don't rock and oil and gas, and this is all going to happen very quickly. we've been talking about this for years now. week that we're and benjamin you, you put it in the perspective to people here in germany who are depending on natural gas for heat, have that natural gas, thanks to the ukrainians who are in the middle of a war, benjamin schmidt as always. thank you. we will be talking again soon. i'm sure, thanks. thanks so much brand. ah, the you in refugee agency says that the number of people fling ukraine has now passed the 1000000 mark, making it the fastest exodus of refugees. so far this century most are heading towards poland, but other neighboring countries such as romania are also taking people in. but some

are having to wait longer than others to cross to safety. why is that? the w correspondent funny for char reports tonight? ah, finally here, thousands are pouring towards the ukrainian border with romania as word spreads of the tale back of refugees of the polish crossing. with harrowing images still in their minds and few items in their hands. they arrive at the last checkpoint to safety oksana and her kids needed 4 days to get here from keith. on her mind. what's ahead. they're going to look for work she car because i need to provide for my children. and my husband stayed up to defend his country. you know, men are fighting age between 18 and 60, have to stay there also many none. ukrainians who want to new students, migrant workers. about half a 1000000 according to you and estimates. hundreds of thousands of people are

fleeing for their lives, heading west for the border. now all these people from across ukraine are running from the same thing. but are they all getting the same treatment? i met flat from heavily bon pat keith, a student from egypt. he says he's growing frustrated about being made to wait in freezing temperatures while ukrainians are led through the they let us only 1st of to like out hundreds of coons we will was i can say anything or this. what study or humans also like visit us? any bishop get more, lots of met says he has already been to live if, but was not let through at the border with pool. and that was funny for char reporting, the day is almost done, but the conversation continues online. you'll find us on twitter either at dw news, you can follow me at brent gov tv. and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. our coverage of the war in ukraine continues here

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this is the w news, live it from berlin for the 1st time since it invaded ukraine. russia has seized a major city, the mayor of parasol confirming that the black sea port city is now with the hands of the russian president. vladimir zalinski ukraine and saying russia, we'll pay for what it's done. also coming up. ukrainian, russia hold a 2nd round of talks. humanitarian cor doors may be in the works and moscow crack down on in depend.