more li, thought by the day in the northern ukrainian city of chair, naive russian airstrikes did this to an apartment building today at least 22 people die. hours later ukrainian president zalinski called on russian, president putin. to stop the war accusing putin of behaving. quote, like a beast. i'm brig off in berlin. this is the day. ah, i want to be very clear about that. mister fulton is a war criminal. i saw a lot of falling down a lot of bombs. it was like today, all of us here have a choice, stand up and be counted for act like none of this matters. this is mass merck.

that's why i can't keep my attention. i was so just strive to avoid civilian casualties. president putin has proved, he has no respect for human rights. he has to seat behind the bars. international criminal court also coming up in just one week of war. russia has forced 1000000 people. that's 2 percent of the ukranian population to become refugees fleeing their country. hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives, heading west for the border. not all these people from across ukraine are running from the same thing. but are they all getting the same treatment? ah, but to our viewers watching on p b. s in the united states, into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with russian gains in ukraine. as the 2nd week of vladimir putin attack on ukraine gets under way,

is horses have now captured their 1st city, the black sea port of harrison. the advance means that russia could soon occupy the entire coast of ukraine, turning it into a land walked country. and there are no signs that russian president putin is considering. you turn after a phone call today with booting french president emmanuel macros. office issued a pessimistic reed out of the conversation, saying that hootin seems determined to invade all of ukraine on today. ukrainian, president zalinski appealed to nato in western countries for more military aid, including a no fly zone over his country. zalinski saying, if you can't fly the planes, give us the planes and we will fly them our cell. get your last nastiness that god forbid. if we are no more than latvia, lithuania, estonia will be next. yes, fornia mold laura, then ali, moldova, ga,

poland boy shot and so on. they will, marsh should the berlin wall. believe me, put me in the world must show its strength without fighting, without losing lives. for you, because strength lies in diplomacy. mister taking the day wilmington thet diplomat, which was a provided we want to close the air space over ukraine con because our children are being deliberately killed to provide almost everybody below miss isles bombs. jets and bombers are flying from the territory of bel roost and russia. ah, i say to the russian oligarchy in the crop leaders who built billions of dollars off this violent regime no more. the united states. i mean, if united states department of justice is assembling

a dedicated task force to go after the crimes of the russian oligarchy were joining with european allies to find and seized our yachts luxury apartments. their private jets were coming for you or ill be gotten gains. that was you as president biden earlier this week, declaring war on russia's oligarchs. they are the ultimate symbol of wealth and influence. floating palaces where the megger rich can live in luxury on the sea, around the world. super yachts are on the move russian. billionaires hiding them to prevent them from being seized. as the western world takes aim at oligarchs with links to russian, president boot im french authorities seized this yacht at a shipyard new mar, say where it was undergoing repairs. the vessel belongs to a company linked to igor. second, the chief executive of russian energy giant rose nef, who's also a close confidant of president putin. or putin, in his inner circle of oligarchy,

may claim to hate the west. but in reality, they fully embrace it's luxury and its lifestyle. rushes richest own expensive property in the capitals of europe. they send their children to western ivy league schools and they hide their wealth. in offshore accounts are now the west is cracking down on the extravagant lives of russians. meg, a rich targeting those who help prop up putins regime economically. western nations have frozen their bank accounts, denying them access to funds and boring them from conducting financial transactions . they're tracking and seizing their assets, including yachts, luxury apartments, private jets, and the european union. the u. s. canada have banned russian plains from their air space, grounding the private jets of russian oligarchy. one of the tools that allowed western nations to implement economic sanctions against russian oligarchy.

so quickly is known as the magnet ski act. it's a u. s. law that punishes russians, who are considered to be human rights abusers. my next guest lead a campaign to punish russian officials for the death of his friends, sergey magnet sky, and he later lobbied the u. s. congress to pass the magnet ski act. i'm pleased to welcome back to the de built browder bill has been called putin's number one for an enemy. and as always, bill, it's good to see you. unfortunately, under these circumstances, i just, i want to ask you a week ago when this war broke out, and you saw how quickly europe in the us slapped these sanctions on individuals in russia. what went through your mind? i was surprised, i am, i think that putin, i was also surprised. we have, we have seen putin do many terrible things over the last decade. even longer,

he invaded georgia. there was no sanctions. he took crimea and the sanctions weren't very serious. he poisoned people in britain, no sanctions. and so he was, he was banking on no, no consequences. and based on what i had seen before, i didn't think anything was gonna happen either as i have to say, as a person who's been calling for these things for, for more than a decade i'm, i'm surprise, i'm impressed. and i think it's going to have some effect on his psychology isn't going to turn him back. but this raises the price of his actions dramatically. yeah . how do you think it is going to change? is it going to change his calculus, or is it going to change the calculus of those oligarchy? who have the got very rich by being in his orbit? well, you should understand these oligarchs are not independently wealthy. they're dependently wealthy. they're dependent on vladimir putin for their wealth. he can take it away at any moment. and so whatever they think doesn't matter. but what these oligarchs

do is they hold vladimir putin's fortune as well. they are the trustees for vitamin putin's money because he can't have it in his own name. and so when we're sanctioning oligarchs, we're sanctioning vladimir putin. and that's the purpose of this exercise. and from my perspective, i don't know if he's, i don't think that he is out of the binary putin has a reverse gear. he can't turn back because it will show weakness. but what we can do is by stripping him of his offshore assets through these oligarchs, as well as stripping him of his onshore assets, which are the central bank reserves. we eventually get to a place where he doesn't have the money to execute this war. and if he doesn't have the money, then he's got to figure out what he's going to do and, and he can't move forward. and the, and i completely agree with president lensky, which is that he's, ukraine is not the end game here. he's going to come for latvia, lithuania, austonia, poland, mold over wherever, and we have to do everything possible, the slow him down to, to deplete his resources and help the ukrainians in any way possible to stop him

from what he's planning to do. what do you think enough sanctions that have been imposed to basically dry up the funds that he has for conducting this will now there's, there needs to be a lot more sanctions done. but literally at moments ago, at the u. s. sanction a few more oligarchs. so to great britain, this is the rowing process more and more people will be added to the list. i think that the sanctions on the swift disconnecting the russian banks from swift, only 70 percent of the banks were disconnected. another 30 percent need to go up there. there's a lot more things that need to be done. but where's we seem to be on a trajectory where it's happening? and the decision has been made in principle. and every day that we watch these atrocities, there seems to be more appetite among the allies to do more to punish putin. and so he's not, he's not getting off scot free on this one and, and he's going to pay

a very, very dear price yet. but you to you and i, we've talked over the years about why these sanctions were needed. they were needed long before this war broke out. but even now, we're still seeing that there is this momentum building up more and more sanctions, more and more people targeted people around the world looking at lives. you know, they may be wondering, why don't you just target everyone in his orbit target hooted himself and get this over with well, we're not gonna, if we should, yes, i totally agree with that. instead of doing it in ones and twos, why not do a 150 oligarchs? yeah, that would certainly make an impression. but, but i should warn everybody that nothing is going to get this over with it. i mean, it's all we can do is deplete him, starve him of it, of his money and his resources so that he bet you know, they effectively run out of gas. i don't know if you've seen that, that big, long convoy of 40 miles the outside of key of the reason they're not moving as they

literally run out of gas. that will less we want to do. moreover, on the whole russian operations just take away their resources that they just can't afford to do this anymore. well, what does a man like vladimir putin? what does he do when he runs out of gas? he's not gonna come out and ask you for help. he's not going to do that. he's not going to stop and ask for where where's the next gas station? he huffs and he puffs. you know, it's but at the end of the day, it's not about negotiating with him. he isn't, he doesn't negotiate. he's, he's a thug, he's a criminal. he has no reverse gear, he can't show weakness. and so you just put him in a position where he just physically can't move forward. and then you know, how he, how he wants to characterize that for his own people. how he wants to define that, that's his business. and i believe in this whole concept of giving him an off ramp, he doesn't deserve any kind of ramp and we should just stop him and, and use every tool we have at our disposal and get every ally on board and pressure

. anybody who's sitting in the middle to tooth to side on, on the side of right. because he, he just needs to feel completely and absolutely isolated. what about the possibility of these, all the guards that are being targeted? how about them saying ok, enough is enough. we're going to turn on pu to now, how probable is that? as a nice fantasy with it, with like a 0 percent probability, the oligarchs don't have the wherewithal to do that. he is constantly looking out for betrayal. ah, he's looking, you know, he, he's, he's a paranoid little man who's constantly trying to figure out who might do that and get to them 1st. i don't think that's ever going to happen. you bet. is that, but he's not god bill. i mean to all of all of these people around him, he can't control the minds of every one. isn't there someone in his orbit who's going to feel the pressure so much that they're gonna just snap you know, i would love it if that was true. yeah, i mean if you were watching that day when,

when he had all of his defense ministers and head of the, you know, the secret service and all that kind of stuff and they were, and he was, i mean, you saw the, the body language these he was humiliating. these people are it on national television. i mean that everybody is scared of him. he's constantly, you know, he's surveilling, he's bugging he's. he's watching everybody to see whether that any sign of disloyalty and they're all terrified there are that i mean, and they're right to be terrified. he is a true monster. he will kill them in an instant if he thinks there, there is any chance that they are going to turn on him. let last question for you. then let's say he is put into a corner. he has no money. he has no options. is, is he the person based on what you know? is he the type of person who would say i have nothing left to lose and, but i do have the nuclear option. yeah, sadly that's, that's the, that's the situation we're in, he's them. and that's always been the problem. everybody wanted to tiptoe around

him because they thought he was crazy. and he had nuclear warheads. and now we see he is crazy. and he has nuclear warheads. and we're gonna have to figure out how to deal with that. and i, i don't know the answer. and i mean my fear that when he threatens us all with nuclear war, it puts us in a very difficult position. you know, and i just, i wish i knew what the right answer was to that. it's a terrible, terrible scenario, and it's not unlikely. and yet i've been hearing that all week that it's not unlikely a hope you're wrong on that one. i hope we don't get to the point where he does threaten us with nuclear war. bilbry elders always good talking with you. let's talk again, sooner rather than later. thank you. thank you. ah, one consequence of the war in ukraine is that europe is now scrambling to reduce its dependence on russian energy. the price of gas was already high before the invasion. now that russian soldiers are in ukraine, prices have spiked again. natural gas now costs $10.00 times more than at the start

of 2021. gas is still flowing through pipelines from russia to customers in western europe. but if the kremlin were to cut supplies, that would cause a shockwave across the country. one natural gas pipeline which has never gone online and probably never will, is the nord stream to pipeline between russia in germany last week. the german government canceled certification of nord stream to a step that the u. s. and other european countries had wanted for years. my next guest is benjamin schmidt. he joins me tonight from washington dcs, a former you estate department adviser on european energy security. he's now with harvard university. benjamin. it's good to have you. i after admit, i lost count of how many times you and i have spoken over the years about the dangers of nord stream to you have been sounding the alarm since day one. how do you feel now?

well, i'll tell you a brand. thanks for bringing that up, but it's not time for looking back on the history of this. unfortunately, we can do that in the future. we have to save ukraine right now. and the bottom line is, yes, we have been warning about the energy security risk, but also the national security risk of north spring to for years. and part of that is the physical dependency on the ukrainian gas for mission network in and around the line of conduct to contact and don boss. and i've talked to you and your viewers on deutsch avella, a number of times about that. and in the, the point that i was making is that it would make it very difficult given, given that putin would still rely on the ukrainian gas transmission network in the absence of north stream to, to push out from the line of contact. and don bach, given the physical proximity of those pipes that they still rely on to get europe from where the fighting was thing that was missing in that analysis. and i don't think anyone was anticipating the full scale war across the entirety of ukraine.

and that is, that is very, very troubling. indeed, obviously, and my heart goes out to all of my friends and colleagues that i've met over the years that are still in ukraine. but we need more actions, not just thoughts and prayers. we need to bring more military aid in the form of, of stingers, and javelins and, and drones, turkish drones, i believe are the, the most compatible at this point. but also take vital energy security steps in unordered stream to look what we've seen over the past week. is basically berlin doing every single topic that you and i've discussed over the years. number one was certification of northridge was halted and the way it was certified is really important. and i want to tell the viewers what's going on there because it's so important. so basically under article 11 of the gas directive of, of the european union, 3rd energy package, a member state that's betting the, the energy security or national security risk of

a piece of energy infrastructure needs to include if that piece of infrastructure will harm the energy security of, of the, the member state or the union as a whole. and what our minister hobbit had done is insert language into the assessment that the previous government had made. that said, it didn't have any under the security risk, which was obviously false, ought to include national security in there. it's really important because it is a fundamental see change. finally, berlin has taken into account that energy security is national security. and if not just the commercial deal has been, has been said over the years yet because i want you to listen to what the german economics minister said to day. he was talking about energy issues. and yet this is what he said. listen. and a sergeant courson, but all i say this with grace, regret and without any joy for it that germany is dependent on russian energy. am i paying just they're missing. we must free ourselves from russian energy imports.

that includes gas, that includes coal and that includes oil corner. if we're doing everything we can to achieve dash, i'm us, your current off him. benjamin, you know, you know what this was someone described to, to me to day as an energy come to jesus. moment for germany, but it's taken so long. the signs have been there the whole time. the reality has been there. we've finally got it. is it too little too late? it can't be too little too late because it has to take place. so we've seen the, the statements by chancellor sholtes to take very positive, very rapid steps to implement. basically what the european union has been doing to 2015 is an energy union concept to reduce dependency on russian natural gas in particular. so building when v terminals to import global supply, remember you and i have pointed out that russian propaganda that was stated by many german support is resorting to was that diversification infrastructure in our us

opposition and ordering to with quote unquote justice l u s l n. g will look we're at right now, that is actually what we've been talking about all the time. is national security risks of russian actions like this. and we've seen northridge to be sanction the, the, the corporate officers of north string to a g are also sanction former stars the officer and put in criminal to t. it's bonnie, is sanctioned in north spring to ag itself was gone, had gone bankrupt. it has been dissolved all 106 employees has been fired. and so i think that that is the final chapter of north stream to now we need to move forward on a european basis to build more floating storage in regards to the cation unit, to increase the gas of occasion capacity to start planning for next winter rent rep the end of the keating cycle right now in the spring. but right now we need to be taking action for the will all in in the next winter. let me ask you this before we run out of time. you're right. we're coming into spring into summer here,

but the fall will, it will be here, sooner than you realize and the need for natural gas will be with us again. can you imagine the kremlin than cutting off those pipelines that are flowing across the ukraine? for example, come next. all of them next winter. i mean is that a risk that we're already running? i think it's a risk we're running right now today. remember, they're going through an active combat right now in frank, heroic ukrainians are still running that to make sure europe is kept warm. they're sitting at their control stations at these gas transmission system. operation centers, keeping that gas flowing from russia through an active war's zone in ukraine to european customers. and so there that those steps need to take place now to diversify. we need to see europe, ian, basically kicking gas from ownership out of gas storage is in western europe. remember, a lot of gas storage is in western europe are owned or at least partially owned by russian state control gas from this is a massive conflict of interest in

a time of national security crisis. we also need to see oil sanctions come on soon, but right now we need to take a 3 phase approach. first, we need to continue to see the global energy trade market continue to avoid russian year old prices. russian year old volume year old prices dropped significantly below the global brand price, our benchmark of $800.00 below brent. and that's going to put immediate pressure on later recruitment we need to then see then finally have coordination on the u. s. you basis and globally on sectoral things on broken, willing gas, and this is all going to happen very quickly. we've been talking about this for years now weeks that we're and benjamin you, you put it in the perspective to people here in germany who are depending on natural gas for heat, have that natural gas, thanks to the ukrainians who are in the middle of a war benjamin schmidt as always. thank you. we will be talking again soon. i'm sure thanks. thanks so much. brent

o. d u in refugee agency says that the number of people fleeing ukraine has now passed the 1000000 mark making it the fastest exodus of refugees. so far this century most are heading towards poland, but other neighboring countries such as romania are also taking people in. but some are having to wait longer than others to cross to safety. why is that? the w corresponded funny for char reports tonight. finally here, thousands are pouring towards the ukrainian border with romania as word spreads of the tale. back of refugees at the polish crossing with harrowing image is still in our minds and few items in their hands. they arrive at the last check point to safety. oksana and her kids needed 4 days to get here from keith. on her mind, what's ahead. they're going to look for worse she car because i need to provide for

my children. they and my husband stayed to defend his country. you know, men of fighting age between 18 and 60, have to stay there also many none. ukrainians who want to leave students migrant workers? about half a 1000000 according to you and estimates. hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing for their lives, heading west for the border. not all these people from across ukraine are running from the same thing. but are they all getting the same treatment? i've met flat from heavily bon keith, a student from egypt. he says he's growing frustrated about being made to wait in freezing temperatures while ukrainians are led through. we are far away from other countries as the same situations were also on us. i don't think we should be for them to live own on to live, right. his friend also from egypt, disagree, the phrase i, sheila rhodes as be book they have no home to go. and actually we have home we have

is or to we can go now like to see. but see, don't have any bliss to those. we are not allowed to firm up met and his friends crossed the border, but after a few hours, they do just like thousands of others finally to safety. the day is almost dying, but the conversation continues on line. your finance on twitter, either at d w. she can follow me at brent gov. t v. and remember whatever happens between now and then, morrow is another day. our coverage of the war in ukraine continues here. on d. w. with

into the conflict zone with tim sebastian, russia, president, putin has reminded the world of his massive nuclear arsenal by placing it on the higher alert is the nato alliance of credible determined and how real this is a 3rd world more general. so richard sheriff, former deputy supreme commando of the nato alliance and my guest this week from london conflict zone. you have now dw, the war and ukraine, many se they'll resist for as long as possible. hundreds of thousands our fleet,

the finding. what does it feel like to leave everything behind how our neighboring nations coping with the wave of refugees? and how do russians actually view hooton's war? focus on europe. in 60 minute, d, w. o, a. please listen carefully. don't know how to miss to be a good deal. the magic discovers the world around you.

subscribe to d w documentary on youtube. russia has stepped up its attacks across ukraine, the largest invasion for seen in europe since the 2nd world war. and if that's not serious enough, russia's president putin has reminded the world of his massey of nuclear arsenal by placing it on higher alert. he will seek to apply maximum force if nuclear is pot about austell and he feels that he which it is and he feels it's going to give him an advantage. i've no dogs that he, we should be prepared for him.