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perience likely to haunt them as adults. yes, it certainly can. if you look at that, they spent knots in bunkers. as a little girl told me there were ration of bunkers. but her mom if she had to explain, but there's no bomb. sophia. yes it is. again, that the sooner we can get out of the situation, the better, but that they will need to be counseling. they need temporary learning spaces. they need any type of education that can give them a distraction. whether we use it deals with the situation from yemen to afghan assigns. with the longer these things continue, the more chance it has of scouring. this is a young nation, a very from what i see, a very entrepreneurial nation. these children will add so much value to any society, but of course they want to add it to their own home. they want to add it to crime. james, thank you very much. for talking with us this morning, that was james elder from unicef. and if you're just joining us, you are watching
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d w. special coverage of russia's war on ukraine. i'm terry martin. here's a recap of the top news, this our ukrainian official se russian forces have seized the critical separation nuclear power plant in the northeast of the country, which produces about a quarter of ukraine's power russian troops launched an attack on the facility over night, leading to a fire at the plant, which is also europe's largest, ukraine's state emergency service, says it managed to put out the blaze and secure the plant safely. authorities say that radiation levels remain unchanged. the international atomic energy agency says it has activated its full emergency response mode because of the situation at the plant. ukrainian president below them is zalinski, has accused russia of trying to repeat the chernobyl disaster saying the incident underscores the need to stop the fighting you from would have we will if there's an explosion you that's the end for every one of us. why the and for europe?
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europe would have to be evacuated more only urge in action by europe can stop the russian troops do not allow the death of europe from a catastrophe at a nuclear power plant. i'm more, let's bring in dr. charles casto. he's a u. s. nuclear safety expert who is involved in containing the fukushima nuclear disaster in japan. dr. customer, thanks for being with us. tell us what went through your mind when you heard that this ukrainian nuclear power plant was on fire. well obviously very, that's very troubling situation that there is no rational reason for an attack on a nuclear power plant. tell us how dangerous it is to have a war being fought near a nuclear power plant. well, obviously that situation is troubling. however, as you seen with the state media talking about that it's stable, the operators are able to deal with these types of situations we plan for the
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situation. and the design of the plan is very robust. nevertheless, that is not a challenge that you want to present to anyone to any operator, any new facility anywhere. what exactly do you have to watch out for me if tanks are firing, even if it, if they're not targeting the plant itself, but somewhere near it. if a shell hit the nuclear power plant, what could happen? the most troubling situation would likely be with the spent fuel that, that stored in the facility. and that spent fuel is contained, it has the containment structure around it. but nevertheless, is the part of the client and part of the fuel system that you would have to worry about. and we saw in the super sima case where they actually the earth attack human nuclear plant, that the operators were able to maintain safety of the spent fuel facility. is there any international?
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sorry, go ahead. so the reactors and very well very robust and contain deep in the plants and it will be difficult to have us to have a serious release. however, that's something we always are concerned with. the spent fuel pools are somewhat more concerning. and as i said, that we have been shown demonstrated that we can protect spent fuel pools. is there any international safety protocol for something like this for nuclear power plants in conflict? v i. e a has a response center, the department of energy, the nuclear regulatory commission, the united states, and many other agencies. and they have been activated to monitor the situation. and there is remote monitoring of the radiation levels to be able to determine the severity of the accident. or the concern that we have in ukraine. but it's not such
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that when, when fighting is happening around a nuclear power plant, it's not that they shut it down. yes, typically what would happen is i as if it was a hurricane or so soon, army, prior to that the plants would be shut down and safely secured at that point mentally. then what you have left is the fuel itself with would be protected, but the plan itself would likely be shut down or would be shut down by the loss of extra power outside the facility. the plants are all likely shut down and secured. now, many people, not just in ukraine, of many people are scared about this situation with ukraine's nuclear power plant being in the middle of a war zone. should they be concerned? well, you should be concerned the, the, the likelihood of a, it depends on the magnitude of any attack that might occur. the, as i said,
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it's very extremely robust of plants extremely robust and, and mostly it would be a area as we saw, a, sharon ogle and fukushima would be an area around the plant that would be most susceptible to damage. the, however, after fukushima and after turnover, we learned a lot of lessons from those accidents and learned many countermeasures. and we can take to minimize the amount of radiation release from a reactor regardless of the accident that might occur. dr. casso, thank you very much. that was dr. charles casto. he's a us nuclear safety expert. thank terry. as you might expect condemnations of the attack on the nuclear power plant have been pouring in with world leaders blasting rushes, assault as reckless in a tweet. canadian prime minister justin true to say the attacks must cease immediately calling them quote,
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unacceptable. british prime minister boris johnson also called for an immediate end to the attacks on the nuclear plant, demanding that russia allow unfettered access for emergency services. or for more, let's bring in our chief political correspondent, melinda crime, melinda, a nuclear power plant on fire in ukraine. this raises memories of, of the chernobyl nuclear disaster. this is a horrifying prospect for many people. absolutely, and in fact, this plant, as you know, is the largest of its type in europe, a great deal larger than sure, noble. and you remember how far excess radiation was detected after chernobyl. so indeed, this is an unprecedented attack that endangers not just ukraine, but to the entire region and potentially all of europe and people are absolutely expressing outrage. orest johnson. not only that statement that you just mentioned
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there, but in fact, saying that we need to see another meeting of the security council of the united nations to talk about this and, and president. so lensky, as you also said, referring to this is nuclear terror and calling on european leaders to act. now, in theory and you and i have talked about this before, in theory, the entire attack on ukraine, but certainly this attack. and by the way, even if the russians say that it was at most a training facility that was effected here, nonetheless, the danger is enormous. this attack would in theory trigger article $51.00 of the un charter which entitles countries or groups of countries to exercise an individual or collective right of self defense when the security council has not or will not act until it acts, essentially, will they do so? no, definitely not, because that would involve head to head confrontation with russia. the security
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council is not going to act. essentially, it is paralyzed because of russia's veto in the council. and without any security council resolution, no one else will act, particularly after the chilling discussion that president my cross had yesterday with president putin. i put in, made it clear. he's prepared to take this as he said, to the end. speaking of calls for action the, the president of ukraine. so vladimir zalinski, he said he is called for a no fly zone over his country. those calls for a no fly zone or getting quite loud, any chance of the, of a new fly zones being imposed by nato or the un. now again, because there is fear that, that would provoke exactly the kind of nuclear confrontation that nato and hopefully russia want to avoid. so, a no fly zone has in fact been imposed in other conflicts. iraq, bosnia,
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libya over a designated area. the thing is it has to be policed. that means you have fighter pilots up in the air and shoring that the perimeter is not violated. that would mean a potential confrontation between a nato fighter pilot and a russian fighter pilot in. don't read it. don't forget that those russian fighter pilots, they're hearing vladimir putin saying that he's prosecuting this war in order to prevent genocide and so on. that's what those fighter pilots have in mind in that confrontation. and therefore, what we've actually seen happen is nato has now re, uh, re set its d confliction line. that's the famous red telephone, the hot line of communication with russian officials in order to be sure we don't have miscalculations that could trigger escalation. and certainly, that's a reason that they, i think,
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will not act on those calls for no fly zone mentioning nato. nato foreign ministers are meeting today in a special session. what can we expect? they're melinda. more of the same. we'll hear professions of support for ukraine itself. we will hear professions of resolve in regard to an article 5 of the nato treaty, the collective, as a defense provisions. we'll probably hear more announcements about what's being done to shore up the defense ability of the baltics and other vulnerable countries . and undoubtedly, we'll hear more warnings to vladimir putin himself. will any of it make a difference? who doubts? willing to thank you very much for now. our political chief, political correspondent, melinda crane, will all over ukraine. it's civilians bearing the brunt of this military bombardment. and for those in frontline cities like murray, opal,
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the situation is worsening. a warning this report contains disturbing images. another shell hits murray. you pull as medics wait for their next call. but with phone services knocked out in parts of the city. they don't always know where to go . often they go door to door, searching for anyone injured and in need of treatment. here they find an elderly woman. her house was hit by a show. she's still in shock as she's taken by ambulance to a makeshift hospital. but sometimes help comes to late doctors. we're unable to save a 16 year old boy, struck by a bomb that exploded on a football field. far away from the fighting, a plane carrying medical supplies has arrived in the polish capital, warsaw the world health organization has sent 36 tons of aid,
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including surgical materials to treat a 1000 people. if the medical escalates be going to see many, many more really vulnerable people who already have 8 who will need a lot of what. but 1st, the cargo will have to be transported by road to places where the 8 is urgently needed. so i think i need to go with this applies will be move in to talk to the boy that would be great. and then further the support, they affected our system. that means it will likely be days before the medical shipments reach frontline cities in murray, you, paul, which is under siege by russian forces and cut off it's already too late. russia's media watchdog said friday that it had restricted access to several independent media websites, including deutsch avella, the tightening of control over the internet comes just over a week after russia in bated ukraine, access to websites of deutsch, avella, bbc,
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and various independent russian news websites are being limited a short while ago, asti w's russian affairs analyst konstantin. agatha, people in russia were still able to get uncensored information about the war yesterday, but it's increasingly difficult just actually 15 minutes before i went on there. several reliable russian twitter personalities in who's the recipe. it was reports, i can't doubt started saying that twitter is not probably in the brussel being blocked and you can't open your twitter feed unless you use the b, m, or tour, or any other sort of bypassing device. so it seems that we are at least a stop to look as if russia is moving towards the complete blockade of the social media apart from probably the, the, the,
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the russian social media like conductive which is a russian version of facebook which is essentially controlled by the government that controlled by the f b, the russel security service where content on wanted content can be removed. so i think that we've entered very quickly, a stage in which russia is kind of rolling back in time, or rather trying to catch up with china, which as you know, had internet censorship from day one. so the people in russia are being increasingly isolated along with the government. do we see? we do see some people, however, protesting around the country in russia. constantine how risky is that for them? well, it is very risky. do, marty, the lower house of parliament adopted amendments from the cradle, which no punish something that's very vaguely called fakes above the rational,
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special operation and actions of home forces with up to potential up to 15 years in britain. so that's not a joke. this is something quite significant, although application of this, this law will probably be quite lacks because what character of the space is anything that go home to the gum line. and i think that this will be quite problematic to put in jail every one, but usually what people do. ready they, they imprison someone so that everyone else will fear the outcome. and we'll keep silence. we're hearing rumors, constantine, that the duma may decide to impose martial law any truth to that
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to do my the it has to be both houses the bottom of the do my, the veneration council. but i think that for now, it doesn't look lightly because there is a procedure and put in a stickler or legal protocol. but it has to be, i think, and worrying of about 4 days or not before such such measures taken. and it has to be really approved by parliament. i think they will approve because they just walk into the fusion for their focus. follow the question. i think maybe they're trying to bypass it by just logging independent information because martial law is actually imposed only in a situation where there is imminent danger to rational sovereign. and that in doing that will be admitting that something's badly wrong. and all the official reports that actually live down to terry's. and the last time russia was under martial law, was kind of during the 2nd world war. so he's going to be momentous. it is going to
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be very, very problematic. put in from the point you go his image and actually from quantity of keeping the country together to that because every scene, it's not a very competent military planning. so i think that maintaining, at the same time martial or at home and a combat operation, the essentially the prosecuting war role. i don't think that the system as is as a resilient as to withstand such pressure. that resilience will be tested with international sanctions beginning to bite the ruble in free fall of russians themselves, or hearing even from their own government that hundreds of russian russian soldiers have been killed. the ukrainian say it in the thousands with these reports of the horror of war coming and the sanctions beginning to buy is opposition to putin and
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the war likely to grow in russia. i think yes, you don't expect revolution tomorrow, although in russia nothing is impossible. absolutely. nothing but me, maybe speaking now and then in an hour it would be analyzing completely but, but i think that there were 2 things which were sort of marcus for me personally. one is the fact that the board of directors of look was, which is one of russia, the largest oil companies. and you should a collective statement saying that this was today. it's a bit timid, but it's got a clear, well there. and this is amazing because all that companies complete the blinds and completely kind of following the criminal law. the fact that a board of directors thing that not just someone with individual caution, i think that's, that's probably a pretty or so quite a few things like that. to come and secondly, ikea sees this operations in russia from today. and yesterday,
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seeing you may want you to get to the scene of actually people in moscow mobbing. dad was a site which i never thought i'm going to see my life. so the 1st, if you wish, the 1st people will feel the sanctions will be business as well as the city big city, middle clock. this was like will never be the same as long as the sanctions are there. i think eventually sections will start biting all the classes, brussel slides, because russian food stops and, and drinks and even c or for the agriculture. a lot of it is important and a lot of it is now being sanction. so it's going to, but it's not probably going to be the collapse of the sides, but i think that many, many, many millions of people will feel the deadlock has changed. iraq constrain, thank you very much. that was our russian affairs analyst. constantine. i got the
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exit, so people fleeing the war is continuing. mainly women and children, as most ukrainian men are required to stay behind to fight holland is receiving the biggest number of refugees. but other neighboring countries are also taking in people desperate to escape russia's assault. well, d, w, 's, tessa, walter reports from the saw back in border with ukraine. a roof over their heads. even if it's just a tent and a hot meal here envision in emmett's crystal vakio. they found shelter from the attacks of the russian army in their homeland oksana arrived here from west and ukraine just a few hours ago with her 2 children. when you thrash them, will you? i was so afraid for my children. we had to flee. all of us had to flee horribly at that. i don't know what to do now
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seem made kick. i do not say asana is relieved that she saved here for the time being that she still can't comprehend the whole catastrophe of the wall. ali on the quote to savannah, divide the abuse, and i don't want to call myself a refugee. i want to go back home where my children were happy. did their boost as libby. oh, dorm, yeah. watches i want to. i'm just so scared. lydia also just made it across the border with her children. she's afraid for our husband, who can't be with his kids right now. that has to fight the russian soldiers that is of i with we are all worry. but what should we do?
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my husband told us to go and then we went. we may never see each other again. this is not right. if we all have to die, we want to die together. it's not right that my husband is in ukraine and we are here. you don't want to leave your home with us though, that like lydia knock sana, thousands of women and children are fleeing ukraine, the neighboring countries. the families here are trying their best to hold up, especially the mothers to all they can to seal that children from the horrible situation they are in. but when you speak to them a little bit longer, you realize just how traumatized they are by the war in their home country, maddie and lead. so is one of the volunteers who takes care of them. thus saith the son of the very surprising because yesterday they had normal eyes until they there are hearing slovakia and i believe they didn't plan to come here
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so it's different for them. they have different lives though, to now they can only wait until their feet will be on solid ground again. the opening ceremony of the 2022 paralympic games begins in just a few hours time with birds nest stadium in beijing. athletes from 49 different countries will compete across 78 disciplines during the games which run from today until march. 13th on thursday, the international paralympic committee bowed to international pressure and band russia and miller routes from competing. as a result of the invasion of ukraine. you're watching dw news from berlin. his recap of the latest developments in ukraine. ukrainian officials say russian forces have seized control of the critical sample risha nuclear power plant, responsible for nearly a quarter of ukrainian energy. russian troops attack facility overnight leading to
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a fire. the plant, which is also europe's largest, ukraine's state emergency service, says it managed to put out the blaze and secure nuclear safety. you're watching this dw special coverage of the war in ukraine. i'm terry martin. i'll be back in just a few minutes with more continuing coverage. but before that 2nd look, give a moment to those who amid all this suffering, try to create some beauty. ah, [000:00:00;00]
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