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ah, ah ah, this is dw news lie from berlin. ukraine says russian forces have seized its largest nuclear power plant. been early morning attack on this side cause to fire at an on site training facility that fire is now out. the officials have confirmed there is no radiation. russia restricts access to independent news outlets including d, w, as it's parliament approves measures to suppress information about the war. and
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russian forces are battling for control of more ukrainian city. after taking the strategic port, city of care on the black sea, ukraine's leaders are urging people to defend their homeland any which way they can . ah, i'm good. how else has welcome to the program? ukrainian official say russian forces have seized these up mauricio nuclear power plant. in the south, east of the country, responsible for about a quarter of ukraine's electrical energy production. russian troops launched an attack on the facility overnight leading to a fire. the training facility on the grounds, but not at the reactive building. your current state emergency services says it managed to put out the place and secure nuclear safety. authorities say that radiation levels remain unchanged. the plant is now under russian control,
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but still operated by ukrainian engineers. president, florida, zalinski has called on russians to protect, to protest about the nuclear plant attack, or c skipped and east. the running tanks knew what they were shelling. they were aiming directly at the station. this has terror on an unprecedented level in the budget. nobody. with those miscast, let's leave life. you have to tell you government related. you have to go into the streets and say that you want to live, that you want to live on an earth, not contaminated by radiation in years night. radiation doesn't know where russia is, where the borders of your country are. you going? it's of actually stanley. granite president vladimir lensky speaking there and rough, our grossey from the international atomic energy agency address the situation at the plant as well. it's important to say that all the safety systems of the 6 reactors at the plant were not affect it at all. and that
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there has been no release of radioactive material. i have indicated to both the russian federation and the ukraine. my availability and disposition to travel to ch are novel as soon as possible so that these 7 crucial pillars are never again got. that's got some background to that incident are joining us now from vienna is go harm omaha on over . she's a nuclear non proliferation and this armand specialist. so given what we know so far, how dangerous was that incident? hi. well, this is an unprecedented situation. so the truth is, is we don't really know how dangerous this is, could get a general glossy pointed out. and you mentioned earlier, the fire was at
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a training facility, not at the react to building itself. so that's sort of the good news to the extent that they could use in the situation. so my husband with out and the reactor presumably is, is saying all the reactor units. and one must know that these are reacting with, built in safety systems, tested against high impact. so this is not close to panic yet, but certainly for very serious concern. this is for a moment to think about how dicey it is to have a war for no problem. if a grenade from a tank or an artillery shell would hit the react to building with the what would that lead to radiation leaks right away? not straight away from the reactor core, he is protected and then the new generation power plants and of course are tested
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for safety to withstand very high impact crashes up to sort of an airplane crashing into the react to building that said there other other dangerous, if there's fire or side safety system fails and fail and especially the tricity supply in the back supply is cut, cut off, then we have this situation where there is no way to, to cool the reactive or even if it's shut down, ration stop. and then we're looking at the risks of react meltdown, but it won't because i just want to in 8 or 3. so strategically can put in now switch off the lights in large parts of ukraine and could that have been the strategic aim of this attack? i can't tell if that was really the strategic game or that sort of happens in the fall war in general fighting and the reactor side is, is his. but yes,
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the grains on tricity supply depends on our plans about 50 percent of the a city ukraine is generated by nuclear power plants. and so we have all that. but if you right now, only one. reactor unit is operational at only about 60 percent to 70 percent capacity according to what you bring in regulator recorded. and then i hear that other parkland to be shut down preemptively. so that could have serious implications for the power supply for you in a crate. is there a safety protocol in place for nuclear plants in conflict zones? i mean, what happens if a war breaks out around pop up in general? again, this is unprecedented. there's nothing we can, we can refer to in terms of formal practice. there's no t obliging states not to attack new infrastructure, but they have been general conference resolutions and the international atomic
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energy agency highlighting the need not to attack on the installation so. so certainly it's part of the sort of international norm, not to target nutritional facilities, but we don't have any specific treaty regulating that. that's an international going to g, g. c operates and incident and emergency center. and right now, i went in to sort of round the clock of duration to provide assistance to, to crane non proliferation expert. go on john over in vienna. thank you very much for joining us. 0 d w. thank you. me. while the russian government has introduced drastic new measures to clamped down on descent as opposition to the war is growing among russians. on friday morning, the parliament passed legislation legislation banning the spread of information critical of russia's war or russia. military violations could carry up to 15 years in prison,
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free speech advocates warning that this will dramatically increase censorship. also the countries media watchdog as restricted access to d, w b, b, c, and other international media websites. earlier this week, the popular echo moscow radio station and the independent dost tv channel were also shut down that you that sir brandy w, russia correspondent, emily sherwin on this normally bass in moscow. but says the kremlin shocked on our bureau, that revokes a quotation for all our colleagues and journalists, they're working from brandon. it's good to have you in the studio for a change. ok, so let's talk about this new legislation by the russian parliament. how significant this, this was very drastic, it essentially means that all criticism can be silenced and the fear that already existed, you know, even before this war in russian society is being solidified. so even this just last week of the media watchdog and russia was warning that media outlets in russia can
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only use official sources to report about what they're calling a special operation. they also were telling critical media outlets that they can't call a war a war, but that they should be referring to it as a special operation. now it seems with this new law, which means up to 15 years in prison, essentially for any thing that that veers off the official line. that essentially makes critical media impossible. i know a lot of foreign colleagues as well. foreign journalists are thinking whether it's even safe for them to stay in the country. learners as well. well, it applies to anyone spreading information, foreigners included, and also social media posts could be included. so essentially, anyone posting about the war criticizing the war, spreading any information about the war on line at all on facebook, on instagram and so on, could face, you know, quite a drastic punishment. and we've seen that before as well, that these laws can be applied to social media as well. well, it basically,
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this ban is there to, to stop descent inside the country. we're getting different the different picture here in, in the west. how big is the potential for descent in the country right now? well, it's hard to know because of course, it's hard to trust poles. at the moment there has been an official poll from a government pollster, which says at around 66 per cent or in favor of this war, an independent experts that i've been talking to put that number at more like 50 percent, which is still pretty high. and it shows you that a lot of people do turn to official sources of information, especially in times when they're afraid when they're on shore. people start watching state tv. and of course the line there is that russia is liberating ukraine from the neo nazis. and that this is a non violent operation, almost, you know, where they're not hitting civilian targets at all. so that's the,
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the current line there. and i've heard from, of, you know, people that i'm talking to on the ground of friends as well, who are saying that they can't actually talk to their parents about this anymore because there's a huge generational divide, of course, in how people consume media. people who are younger, consumed media, more online, others, older people often watch state tv. so people are saying, i can't talk to my parents anymore because they are, they're saying that everyone in the west is not sees. they're saying, you know, don't, don't be a traitor and, and, and so on. so really quite upsetting things that you're hearing from, from, from russians on the ground as well about that. so that it, it, russia, made it more difficult to get uncensored information arrived now, but how can get people in russia is still possible to get uncensored information. but it's more difficult run exactly at the moment. it's so possible. russia does, of course, have the possibility to cut its own internet off from the world wide web. experts
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are saying that that's still quite unlikely and could be technically difficult, but that's a danger. people are using a vpn services, which means that they can essentially hide their i p addresses and pretend they're in a different country in order to access information that would be blocked within russia . so they can access critical media outlets. you were mentioning that, you know, medusa was being blocked a critical media that the b, b, c, d, w, many others as well. but it's an effort and you know, the question is whether people will continue to, to try to find information, especially in a situation where they're confused and upset anyway. that's a danger. people are using telegram messaging services as well to get, you know, their channels on there with, with news as well. but it's getting, it's getting harder and harder and i expect that to continue as well. in the coming days. let's talk about the room is that muscle law could be introduced in russia. is that realistic? and how would the brushing public react to that?
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i would say that at this point, almost anything is realistic when it comes to repressive measures within the country. you know, we've seen repressive measures i'll, i think anything is possible. ah, we don't know what the introduction of martial law would mean in practice. apparently there's quite a broad range of measures that could be introduced, but it could mean border closures, mobilization and a huge you know, even more censorship essentially. and a lot of people are currently trying to leave the country because of these rumors, odd of their reports that there are, there's a huge demand for flights to leave the country, especially to countries where there is no visa and measures for russian. so that, that, that they could actually stay there any 100 so many one way flights as well. and i'm hearing this from friends who are trying to find a way out. of course, not every one as i was saying. and as people wait to figure out what's happening, of course the sanctions are biting as well. so one person was telling me they had
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around $10000.00 in savings to try to leave the country. now that money is worth $5000.00 and that's why you know, getting worse and worse, of course, as the ruble is in free fall as well. many things ah, russia course one on emily, sherwin that thank you. who inter paralympics have officially opened and bridging without athletes from russia and bill ruse. on tuesday, the international paralympic committee said, athletes from russia and bill arose, could take part a so called neutrals under the pearl and big flag. but the organization late about international pressure and issued a full band, the 71 member russian contingent, has already been traveling to begging nato secretary and 2nd, a general. hence, stoughton back insisted that nato is not part of the conflict in ukraine and is not seeking a war with russia, but that the alliance is on high alert and ready to defend any of its members. he's
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been speaking after a special summit of the alliance is foreign ministers in brussels. leslie, we have only to strengthen our turns on the fence, on land in the air and at sea allies from north american europe have sent thousands more troops to the east and part of the alliance. we are deploying the nato response force for the 1st time, and we have over a 130 yet at high alert and over 200 ships from the har, north to the mediterranean. we will continue to do what it takes to protect them, defend every inch of nato tony nathan, he said, the fence of alarms our court paused is to keep our 30 nations safe. we are not part of this conflict and we have
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responsibility to ensure it does not escalate and spread beyond your crane. because that would be even more devastating and more dangerous. with even more human suffering, nato is not seeking a war with russia. later, secretary general ins slowed max speaking. there are just moments ago. for more on this, i'm not joined by d. w. 's. terry schultz adds nato headquarters in brussels. we're still meg was speaking. so what did you make of that statement? you know, get hurt as he was speaking, i just kept thinking of how this was going down in cube and other cities around ukraine. we heard president zalinski earlier today plead yet again for a no fly zone, for nato to stop russian plains from bombarding ukraine. and this is just something that nato is not even considering. as the secretary general made clear, he kept saying, nato is not part of this conflict, and that by enforcing
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a no fly zone, this request from ukraine that's coming daily. that would be entering the conflict eventually. and nato would have to shoot down a russian plane, and then nato would be a party to the conflict. and that's something that there's no appetite for in this alliance. even as secretary general stoughton berg and many national leaders are praising the courage and bravery of the ukrainian president and the ukrainian citizens, but they're not going to get this no fly zone. terry also said that nato activated the response force for the 1st time. how significant is this? yes, this happened several days ago now, but it does show that nato is feeling a more security threat from the russian invasion of ukraine. this is the 1st time that this rapid response force has been activated for collective defense. and this is several 100 troops now being sent to romania as the 1st spearhead mission. that the rapid response forces undertaking. and there are up 240000 troops in total that
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could be deployed if necessary, and they're holding them back for now, presuming as, as they can today at this hour, any way that the conflict doesn't spread. but nato has also in recent weeks and months, reinforced its eastern flank is significantly tens of thousands more troops now in the baltics, much more equipment. and even today, something that you know is, is, is quite unusual. they've decided to bring finland and sweden, non nato members into the fold on odd intelligence sharing, and they're going to be included in every, in every meeting on ukraine. also that european unions of foreign policy chief, joseph borough, was here today. and now many of these foreign ministers will head down to brussels, to head, to the other side of town in brussels, to join an e u meeting. so they are really, you know, trying to seal every possible crack that would give president putin, the feeling that he's going to get away with what he's doing. but as for military
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support for ukraine, this is going to continue to take place only by laterally and nato is not going to do anything as an alliance of 30 members. a terri, you've been reporting there from major quotas for many years now. when you're there now, what is the feeling that you're getting? what's the mood for right now in the face of this crisis? that's an interesting question because you hear a lot of things and i was here for a lot of briefings yesterday. and you know, people feel despair for the ukrainians and a lot of admiration for president zalinski for what he's doing personally. and also for the ukrainian citizens who are fighting back even better than expected and, and really holding off the russian attack more than, than had been anticipated. at the same time, they return to that to the red lines that nato has. and that is that they will not enter the conflict they, they are here to defend ally territory. that's 30 countries. that's these, these countries along the borders with, with russia, with ukraine,
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with beller ruse. and nato does not want to move further. it will be up to individual governments like the united states, like poland, like the u. k. to provide bilateral support to ukraine. that just isn't coming out of nato headquarters as, as desperately as, as fellow leaders here feel for the ukrainians on the ground. did i miss terry shelter reporting a life from may to a headquarters? thank you very much. terry. numerous cities in ukraine remain under heavy bombardment, but so far the black sea portal stresshome is the only major urban center to full. since russia began its invasion more than a week ago, ukraine and the us half accused russia deliberately hitting civilian targets, doing it's attacks. meanwhile, civilians all over the country remain strong and their resolve to fight back knowledge all over ukraine, people are getting ready to fight latitude in live eve. those with combat
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experience. teach those who have never held a gun before i look on this rubric thoughtful. i came here to get some understanding of what to do, how to defend myself, and how to survive to the enemy comes for water, the knocker. and while it still com and louise devastation elsewhere could give an indication of what could come, this is what the outskirts of key it look like. with russian forces advancing in the east and south president vladimir putin claimed that his so called special military operation is going to plan what is his get hold of the russian soldiers and offices are acting bravely like true heroes. our troops fight with persistence, and full understanding that that cause is right all and when you minute produce, we would do all in the south russian troops and that tanks have taken control of the key black sea port of how sun. they are also pressuring the port city of mario
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pole. there is no water or electricity and the depths of winter to the east, ukraine's 2nd largest city. how he, if is still standing, despite russia's advances. but heavy bombardment has left buildings and ruins and dozens of civilian steps. and shall noth nothing if we full go to forbid hollywood will next will be locked via home. in lithuania is stony on georgia, moldova, poland, value and then they will go to the berlin wall. portia, if that would only be doable liens, please give me a 2nd round of talks between russian and ukrainian negotiators has met with some progress as the 2 sides agree to establish humanitarian corridors in some areas for those residents who have not or could not get escape any such corridors could provide some desperately needed respite and i'm joined by our correspond mathias at
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berlin. he's in the vision of western ukraine materials. intense fighting continues when things stand across the country right now you can go, we've just heard the latest news. there are many hotspots at the moment, sir. harker and kia remain some of the most of the worst attacked or, or a cities where we have the worst damage also to the civilian population. shelling is going on them, or your poll is and circle. we don't have a lot of news from there because the city is mostly cut off and you communication as well as electricity and a gas supply. so this is, looks very dire there. here i am now at the, near the train station in leaf. and this is one of the places where many refugees arrive and we are hearing a lot of
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a lot of very sad stories or we have so we are seeing people coming in still from har, give their trains evacuating people. but we also see that people fleeing from places that have so far not been attacked like me, brought in the east or odessa in the south, where the russian army is advancing, and where people are afraid of, of fighting in odessa, people have said they could already hear some fighting, although it seems to be still quite far away from the city. so, fighting is intensifying across the country. it's a very dangerous situation, or for many people here. what is, what are you hearing from the capital? keep people that have been bracing for a full russian assault for days. yeah we've, we've seen fighting around in the suburbs of gear for quite some time now for, for, for many days, almost almost since the beginning of this invasion and this, it seems to be continuing. there is
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a warning by the authorities that the russians might try to and circle care of and lay siege to the city. so far, they have not managed to enter the city or at least not deeply. they have entered and were ford back. fighting continues in the northern and north east and north western suburbs of the city. shelling of course of the city has also happened and is happening. so the situation is pretty much as well a child, but it has not been shifted yet in general. things are going on, it's still unclear what is happening. of course, this is a city that the ukrainian forces will try to defend very hard a lot of forces as we understand it, have been brought into position there even before the war. it's of course, the most likely a target of a russian attack. it's been since the beginning. so of course, this is a very crucial moment for the capitol. now ukraine and russia held another under toss on thursday. they agreed on humanitarian corridors for people to leave. tell
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us about those there is a general agreement on humanitarian corridors that might be corridors for people to leave, or that might be a corridors to bring in supplies for food, for example, or medication. um they are of course needed, especially in those cities that are on the siege, like marie or paul. and hark, if we know now here from the refugees that are they are still ways out of the city . but of course, the city has been mostly cut off from, from many roofs in and out of the city. and there is a need of course of to supply the city with humanitarian goods as billing or reporting from a v in western ukraine. thank you much. yes, all of the ukraine civilians are bearing the brunt of this attack. for those in
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front lines, it is like mario bowl. the situation is worsening. agreements to create humanitarian corridors, to escape may come to late warning or the following before contained some disturbing images. another shell hits murray. you pull as medics wait for the next call. but with phone services knocked out and parts of the city, they don't always know where to go. often they go door to door, searching for anyone injured and in need of treatment. here they find an elderly woman to her house was hit by a shell. she still in shock, as she's taken by ambulance to a makeshift hospital. but sometimes help comes to late. doctors were unable to save a 16 year old boy, struck by a bomb that exploded on a football field. far away from the fighting,
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a plane carrying medical supplies has arrived in the polish capital. warsaw the world health organization has sent 36 tons of aid, including surgical materials to treat a 1000 people. if the medical escalates is going to see many, many more really vulnerable people who are already late, who would need a local what. but 1st, the cargo will have to be transported by road to places where the 8 is urgently needed. so i think i'll go back to go with this applies will be move in to talk to the boy that you great. and then further the so for they affected our system. that means it will likely be days before the medical shipments reach frontline cities in murray, you, paul, which is under siege by russian forces and cut off. it's already too late. he wasn't, he w, a special coverage of russia's wall on the ukraine. here's a summary of the top news. ukrainian officials say russian forces have seized the
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critical up a nuclear power plant in the southeast of the country which produces about one quarter of your current energy. russian troops launched an attack on the facility overnight leading to a fire on the plant at the plant, ukrainian emergency services managed to put out the place and secure no clear safety. the head of the international atomic energy agency has confirmed that there has been no radioactive leak. russian troops on control of the side now, but ukrainian staff continue to operate the plant that's got some background to that incident. joining us now from vienna is go home, watch on the over. she's a nuclear non proliferation and this arm and specialist. so given what we know so far, how dangerous was that incident? hi, this is an unprecedented situation. so the truth is, we don't really know how dangerous this could get. a general glossy pointed out,
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and you mentioned earlier that i was at a training facility, not at the react to building itself. so that's good news to the extent that they could use in this situation for the past with zach was out and the reactor presumably is, is say all the reactor units. and one must know that these are reactor units with safety systems tested against high impact. so this is not close to panic yet, but certainly for very serious concern. let's just for a moment to think about how dicey it is to have a war for nuclear power plant. if a grenade from a tank or an artillery shell would hit the react to building what the, what would that lead to radiation leak straight away? not straight away from the reactor core,
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