and you mentioned earlier, the fire was at a training facility not at the reactive building itself. so that's sort of the good news to the extent that they could use in the situation. so my husband with out and reactor presumably is, is safe. all the reactor units and one must know that these are reactor units with built in safety systems, tested against high impact. so this is not close to panic yet, but certainly for very serious concern. this is for a moment to think about how dicey it is to have a war for nuclear problem. if a grenade from a tank or in artillery show would hit the react to building with the what would that lead to radiation leaks right away? not straight away, the reactor core is protected and then the new generation power plants and of

course are tested for safety to withstand very high impact crashes up to sort of an airplane crashing into the reactor building that said there other other dangerous if there's fire outside safety system fails and fail, and especially the tricity supply in the back supply is cut, cut off, then we have this situation where there is no way to, to cool the reactor or even if it's shut down, ration stop. and then we're looking at the risks of react meltdown, but it won't because i just wanted 8 on reactively. so strategically can to, to now switch off the lights in large parts of ukraine and could that have been the strategic aim of this attack? i can't tell if that was really the strategic game or it is that sort of happens in the fall war in general fighting and the reactor side is, is his. but yes,

the grandson tricity supply depends on our plans about 50 percent of the electricity and ukraine is generated by nuclear power plants. and so we have of it is you right now only one reactor unit is operational at only about 60 percent to 70 percent capacity according to what you bring in regulator recorded. and then i hear that other power plants are being shut down 3 m to be so that could have serious implications for the power supply. 4000000 in ukraine. is there a safety protocol in place for nuclear plants in conflict zones? i mean, what happens if a war breaks out around to pop up in general again, is, this is unprecedented. there's nothing we can, we can refer to in terms of formal practice. there's no t t obliging states not to attack the infrastructure, but they have been general conference resolutions and the international atomic

energy agency highlighting the need not to attack on the installation. so. so certainly it's part of the sort of international norm not to target nutritional facilities. but we don't have any specific treat you regulate that. that's that international energy agency operates an incident and emergency center. and right now i went into sort of round the clock of duration to provide assistance to non proliferation expert. go hi john over in vienna. thank you very much for joining us here. and d, w. thank you. messages seeing the boy in ukraine, on arriving in germany every day that travelling, however, they can with special buses and trains, bringing people from border areas to cities, including berlin authorities, in the capital say more than 6000 refugees have arrived at berlin's mains train station on thursday alone, our reporter loveday right was there and sent us this report.

ah, a journey people never thought that half to make thousands of refugees arriving at balance main train station. among them, women, children, grandparents and many international students, all of them fling the war in ukraine, exhausted after days on the move. the us and gov, the city de la d. i met so many people who help me with open hearts and so much love, w. e o and i hope this love will help that we will manage this isn't my husband stayed in cave, my family, my mother's i'm so worried about them. i'm sorry, i can't talk anymore. we built the room. so it really was, it was a visa bus. missed if so could us were safe now. yeah. so everything's okay. the web is not yours and as, as the you like every one there. we just felt so hopeless. but we made it here.

last night we were so scared, every one was saw, it was terrifying. and a horrible experience my life. i never, ever forget. never, ever volunteers are picking people up from the platforms and bringing them here to get some help. this is where they can get a hot drink, warm clothes and medical attention. alongside the age organizations, dozens of volunteers have just turned up to help in any way they can, many offering to translate for people. others are handing out food and clothing. this help of fled to germany from syria 7 years ago. on the skies guns canarvy the luther. i know exactly how these people are feeling. they've left their homes, their loved ones, they just want a safe life. even within this hide some people are planning to stay in balance for now. many have friends of family here. others want to travel onwards. refugees from ukraine can take the train for free in germany and elsewhere in europe. for many,

this is just one stop on an even longer journey. and tony me now is james elder spokesman for the united nations childrens fund. unicef are joining us from love if a james tell us what this war means for ukraine's children at the moment it means as you see, it means mass exodus. it means a trauma or enormous amount of stress. sorrow. the streets are just a wash with sorrow and of course in those big cities right now that are under bombardment, it means a, a threat to life and limb. we, we know children are being killed in this conflict. we know children are being injured as long as the fighting and bombs continue. then the greatest threat to children, of course, is for their very life. so what can you, what can you, he says do right now, what are you doing at the moment? well, we're very glad to hear the last 12 hours the guarantee 1st from both sides on the,

on the idea of humanitarian cordele. it's absolutely critical that we have the ability to go safely to people. i talked to people in bunkers who have not, not had food, not had water, not had went for 2 days. we need to reach these people. so units have, has emergency medical supplies. we've been shipping, shipping trucking ozi in, across, in the pole, in the border agents, poland romania here in ukraine. we get oxygen cylinders in the hospital in kiev, remembering that many children in hospitals who can't get out. so there's a huge amount of support that needs to be done, and that's what we seeking to do, not forgetting how much you craniums themselves are doing. of course, right now, to be honest, as, as these fighting continues, the, the horrendous demand for the boys and girls continues to outstrip any supply. just to get this cleared a do idea of access to children in areas that are on the russian control.

i present know we have been guaranteed safe passage. ah, for those people out of those areas we hope that commencing now this is very fluid . it's only last hours that that's happened. we need that to absolutely, to ensure safe, dignified passage for those people at the same time, safety to humanitarian workers. and then you'd have to go between, between those conflict lines that needs to happen as you and i speak as does this idea that so many people have cold fall for the, for the fighting to cease. it's hard to overstate just the amount of stress that are on families, whether they've escaped to hear in a looking to get further or failed. i. i have been sleeping in bunkers on trains that talking to family members, some of lost family members. i spoke to a young girl earlier today, his mother and father a both date and we're trying to get her out from here to here. and it's a conflicts on and it's very fluid bud. humanitarian access, as you say,

is 1st and foremost to reach these children who are in those dark, his places right now. how can children begin to process the health of was traumatizing enough that also but how good children do with this? that the children i see and they mothers so me so many different ways. i some say that a baby sleep more are some, some children cry more, some in those moments of complete panic where their parents have had been so steely and resolved, can do it. no more, you know, i've had a little 7 year old girl say mom, it's okay i'm here. i'm here. but, but all the other children to play because they're in bunkers with rats. it's very difficult when eunice, if notice from conflicts around the world trauma, the longer it lost the longer conflict last it styles and it makes their learning more difficult from what i've seen in ukraine's a pretty dynamic country. a lot of young people, lot of clever,

clever people we cannot afford for brian drain on top of on top of blood being spilled. thank you very much. james elder, they're doing very important work with uni seth in ukraine. thank you. james. later secretary general. hence stoughton back spoke after a special summit of the alliance is foreign minister in brussels. he insist that nato is not seeking a war with russia, that the alliance is on high alert and ready to defend its members. we have only to strengthen our turns on the fence or lamb in the air and at sea allies from north american europe have sent thousands more troops to the east and part of the alliance. we are deploying the nato response force for the 1st time. and we have over a 130 yet at high alert and over 200 ships from the high north to the mediterranean. we will continue to do what it takes to protect them,

defend every inch of nato. tony. nate toys sent the fence of alarms our court paused, is to keep our 30 nations safe. we are not part of this conflict. and we have a responsibility to ensure it does not escalate and spread beyond your crane. because that would be even more devastating and more dangerous with even more human suffering. nato is not seeking a war with right, a secretary general against stroke max speaking there are just moments ago. for more on this, i'm not joined by the w's. terry shells at nato headquarters in brussels. we're still meg, was speaking. so what did you make of that statement?

you now get hired as he was speaking, i just had thinking of how this was going down in keys and other cities around ukraine. we heard president zalinski earlier today plead yet again for a no fly zone, for nato to stop russian plains from bombarding ukraine. and this is just something that nato is not even considering. as the secretary general made clear, he kept saying, nato is not part of this conflict, and that by enforcing a no fly zone, this request from ukraine, this coming daily, that would be entering the conflict eventually. and nato would have to shoot down a russian plane, and then nato would be a party to the conflict. and that's something that there's no appetite for in this alliance. even as secretary general stilton berg and many national leaders are praising the courage and bravery of the ukrainian president and the ukrainian citizens, but they're not going to get this no fly zone. terry also said that nato activated it response force for the 1st time. how significant is this?

yes, this happened several days ago now, but it does show that nato is feeling a more security threat from the russian invasion of ukraine. this is the 1st time that this rapid response force has been activated for collective defense. and this is several 100 troops now being sent to romania as the 1st spearhead mission. that the rapid response forces undertaking. and there are up 240000 troops in total that could be deployed if necessary, and they're holding them back for now, presuming as, as they can today at this hour, any way that the conflict doesn't spread. but nato has also in recent weeks and months, reinforced its eastern flank is significantly tens of thousands more troops now in the baltics, much more equipment. and even today, something that you know is, is, is quite unusual. they've decided to bring finland and sweden, non nato members, into the fold on odd intelligent sharing, and they're going to be included in every, in every meeting on ukraine. also that european union's foreign policy chief,

joseph burrell, was here today. and now many of these foreign ministers will head down to brussels, head to the other side of town in brussels, to join an e u meeting. so they are really, you know, trying to seal every possible crack that would give president putin, the feeling that he's going to get away with what he's doing. but as for military support for ukraine, this is going to continue to take place only by laterally and nato is not going to do anything as an alliance of 30 members. a terri, you've been reporting there from network quotas for many years now. when you're there now, what is the feeling that you're getting? what's the mood for right now in the face of this crisis? that's an interesting question because you hear a lot of things and i was here for a lot of briefings yesterday. and you know, people feel despair for the ukrainians and a lot of admiration for president zalinski for what he's doing personally. and also

for the ukranian citizens who are fighting back even better than expected and, and really holding off the russian attack more than, than had been anticipated. at the same time, they return to that to the red lines that nato has. and that is that they will not enter the conflict they, they are here to defend allied territory. that's 30 countries. that's these, these countries along the borders with, with russia, with ukraine, with bella, ruth and nato does not want to move further. it will be up to individual governments like the united states, like poland, like the u. k. to provide bilateral support to ukraine. that just isn't coming out of nato headquarters as, as desperately as, as fellow leaders here feel for the ukrainians on the ground. did of the socials, they're reporting a lot from me to headquarters. thank you very much sir. meanwhile, the russian government has introduced drastic new measures to.