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rushes military forces violations, or it can carry prison turns above to 15 years. free speech advocates, a censorship has already increased. the countries media watchdog has restricted access to d, w and to other international media websites and the popular radio station echo moscow. i mean, independent tv channel does to have closed down well, d, w of russia correspond michelle and normally based in moscow. but as we were here in berlin since the kremlin close down below there and revoke to gymnast accreditation, welcome to the studio, and we will start with this legislation significant. yeah, i think significant this is an attempt to fully silence all criticism and to kind of solidify the fear that i think already existed even before the military invasion that we're seeing now. because there's been, you know, quite a bit of a crackdown going on against all opposition, voices anyway, you know, past this past year as well, 2021 as well. and now since the invasion,
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the media was told that they're only allowed to use official sources. they were warned not to call the war a war. and now with this new law, essentially, anyone who talks about the war as a war, who talks about it as an invasion can be, you know, accused of not following the official line. that means that any critical media kind of becomes impossible, and the same is true about social media because even a social media post could be considered spreading false information. and there have been president precedents in russia as well, where that kind of thing has happened where someone has been put, put in prison for a social media post. so, so with all these independent channels being closed down, where all russians going to for uncensored information was getting increasingly hard, especially because of, as i was saying, social media is kind of increasingly being blocked. there is still a telegram, which is a messaging service where there are also channels for news that seems to be an
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accessible still in russia. that's quite a significant check source of news for especially young people and young people who do get their information from a, from the internet also are downloading v p ends so they can essentially pretend to while they can hide their ip addresses and pretend to be in another country outside of russia's access information freely, of course, particularly the older generation is watching state media and, you know, the information there, the narrative is totally different than russia is fighting this kind of liberation operation against neo nazis and ukraine. if you, if you kind of listen to, to state media, that's the line there. and of course, it's also important to say that, you know, all of these things with, with things getting harder and harder online. it's more and more of an effort to find out information. so the question is whether people who aren't really that bothered about politics will make the effort. right. and there be these rumors
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circulating for the last a day or so that russia is about to impose a martial law. and what are you hearing about the, the mood back home? well, the rumors initially were that it was going to happen today that hasn't happened. so far, the kremlin spokesperson to mean tape is coff has called that rumor fake. and indeed is russia did introduce martial law. that would mean that they were recognizing that this is a war and not just a special operation to liberate ukraine and so on. that though has, i think, made the atmosphere, you know, along with all these laws that we're seeing past, one of kind of fear and confusion, a bit of panic. i've been speaking to people back in russia. many people are trying to leave the country. in fact, their reports that many fights are booked out. people are trying to get to countries where they don't necessarily need visas and their reports that it's difficult to be applied. and sanctions, of course, in the meantime,
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are also biting, you know, with the ruble falling and western companies leaving the market for, for example, today, there were long lines outside of ikea because people were trying to, you know, buy furniture as the company announced that it was stopping, you know, it was closing within russia, so quite, quite a bit of panic and confusion i think, but also normal life completely. so given is this narrative, this liberation narrative that russia is forcing that, that, that the saving russian speakers from, from a holocaust in, in ukraine. do we presume them? but if most people are hearing this and accepting this live, but most people actually support this war. well, it's pretty hard to know. there are have been official polls. one government pollster says that sixty's around over 60 percent are in favor of $66.00. i think they say and, and independent analysts that i've been speaking to and reading information from. but that number it more like 50 percent. so that's still
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a pretty big chunk. who are watching state media, i think especially in difficult times times when there are sanctions times when the rubel is unstable, people kind of turned to officials or has been formation. and of course it's generational question as well, the younger generation, a lot of people have been telling you they can't talk to their parents anymore because they're living in a kind of parallel world. but this of war happening and, and the other indication, i guess, would be that there have been these protests that you mentioned as well. since the beginning of the war over 8000 people were arrested at opposition, protests and opposition activists. alexi navine whose jailed, of course, has also said hold on people to take to the streets again this weekend. we'll have to wait and see, but you know, people are scared and with these laws coming in, they have a reason to be ok. so keep that d w a russia correspond, emily sure it will. just over a week ago, most ukrainian children were going to school kindergarten now many of fleeing with
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their mothers, while their male adult relatives are required to stay and fight elbows in neighboring countries. so many children are arriving traumatized. the w's test of alto reports from a slow, vacuous border with ukraine. a roof over their heads, even if it's just a tent. and a hot meal here envision in em yet skus gl vakio. they found shelter from the attacks of the russian army in their homeland oksana arrived here from western ukraine just a few hours ago with her 2 children. ms. rationalism were you. i was so afraid for my children, you got we had to flee. all of us had to flee horribly that i don't know what to do now, steam made kick. i do not say asana is relieved that she saved
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here for the time being. but she still can't comprehend the whole catastrophe of the wall alley on the quote. just the been as the right the abuse, and i don't want to call myself a refugee. i want to go back home where my children were happy. i did the blues does live mobile door. yeah. watches. i 12. i'm just so scared. lydia also just made it across the border with her children. she's afraid for our husband, who can't be with his kids right now. that has to fight the russian soldiers that is alive with we are all worried. but what should we do? my husband told us to go and then we went. we may never see each other again. this
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is not right. if we all have to die, we want to die together. it's not right that my husband is in ukraine and we are here. you don't want to leave your home with us, that like lydia knox, sana thousands of women and showed an asleep ukraine. the neighboring countries. the families here are trying their best to hold up, especially the mothers to all they can to shield that children from the horrible situation they are in that when you speak to them a little bit longer, you realize just how traumatized they are by the war in their home country maddie and lead. so is one of the volunteers who takes care of them. thus saith is so not very surprising because yesterday they had normal eyes and forbade our hearing slovakia. and i believe they didn't plan to come here. so is
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different for them. they have different lars low than now. they can only wait until their feet will be on solid ground again. let's hear some say the children's at head of news. who's i in romania. he's in the city of sera to which is on the border with ukraine, dance to it. welcome to d. w. perhaps we can start with you describing the situation there at the border in. well, what we've seen on the border in romania, on the border with ukraine in recent days is just a steady stream of refugees coming across, you know, all day, all day long in the, in the bitter and the bitter cold. i think the temperature has got above freezing here for days and you know, as, as, as your piece decide it's, it's mostly women and young children coming across. they, when they arrive, they're feeling a real mixture of sheer exhaustion. more than anything,
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many of them have been on the road for days. i'm having floods unimaginable dangers behind them. but also there's relief finally being safe for the 1st time in a long time from any of them. and then many of them are just don't know what is going to happen next. they some, some people know where they're going. some people don't respect to one family. when i ask them what their plans were, they've been on the road for 4 days. and they just said that they couldn't even begin to think of that yet. they just needed to sleep 1st and foremost and who you helping. and how are you helping well, saved the children are on the border. we're about, you know, we're right on the border with ukraine. we are distributing toys to children who come across the border. he, you know, it might seem a small thing, but i mean, you see children's faces light up when you can present them with, you know, stuff toy at the end of the ordeal that they've been through. but kind of more fundamentally, we're also providing warm clothes. i mean warm socks,
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i've been in high demand, warm blankets for people coming across the border as well as feed and a high isn't your high gain kids say things like these diapers, tooth paste. so that kind of thing. and it's hard to comprehend as an adult what this must to do to one's mind going through this, this sort of trauma. what sort of a fact is, is likely to have on children? well, i think that the, on the, on the supply is probably that it depends toussaint extent, on what comes next. you know that there is no doubt that these children have been 3 incredibly traumatic experiences. you know, everybody i've spoken t i, you know, tells of glaring sirens, hiding in basements. i'm hearing loud bangs in the distance ones family. one families hold me that they had to abandon their car on the way to the border
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because the rates were destroyed and they had to walk through fields. another told me that they had to see that they kind of picked their way through the embers of destruction. now, what will the long timing packs of, of this be on children? well, you know, it's going to be very difficult for them to recover. what we do know is that children are incredibly resilient. i'm with the right support. you know, the thing is that we get them the right support. now say i say the children we are providing safe spaces where children can play and be supported by our special, especially train teams and, and that will them start to recover from the experiences they've been 3. now we need to do more of that. you know, we know that we are in the start of this crisis and we are rapidly scaling up in romania, but also across the region. i'm rural, say inside ukraine as well, working through local partners. you have even during the fighting when it's been safe enough, been able to help children, families with some essential supplies and medicines. and do you have any
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understanding of their understanding of the children's understanding of what's happening of why they have had to put all that stuff in suitcases and run for their lives? it's difficult and it's for, it's from their parents that you try and pick up this understanding. so i've asked a number of parents, you know, what, what have you said to your children? how do you explain something like this to them? and, and my mom told me that, you know, they were, they were fleeing the country and they went past the children's grandmother's house to pick her up. so you have 3 generations of this family all fleeing the country together. but when they got to their grandmother's house, the fighting became, you know, came to close, the sirens went off and they had to hide in the grandmother's basement for a while. and then, you know, this was the point on which this 29 year old mom told me that, you know, she needed see this, you know, she felt like he needs tell her for your daughter the truth. and so the question is,
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how much do they comprehend what's going on? and i think what, you know, this 4 year old girl, what she feels is, is, you know, she's afraid she's scared. she knows that something's going on that, that was horrific. and the parents are going through an incredibly terrible time, but she doesn't fully comprehend what's going on. and in fact, when i was speaking to honor and her daughter, i actually, you know, she was really struggling to tell me what happened. and she started breaking down actually, i'm at that moment in time. you know, i had a 4 year old daughter came up just as anna was wiping away her tears and show us a bracelet that a friend, a new friend in the child friendly space where we were talking. i just made her. and so she had been incredibly scared and her mom had said that, but again, with the right support, children are so resilient, right? you know, when they have to chance to play and make friends and be somewhere safe, they can start to bounce back. and that's the, one of the,
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the amazing thing about children. and the vital thing about what we need to do now is make sure that you know, as many children as possible, having that same experiences on his daughter to have somewhere where they can recover and play. and, you know, start to get over the traumatic experiences. they've been 3. thank you so much for sharing those stories. vanessa dan stewart from a st. the children, thank you. like it. every day brings more ukrainian refugees to germany arriving. however, they come on. 6000 ukrainians. arrived in berlin's main train station on thursday alone, travelling on special rail services d. w. i was met some of the volunteers that allowed to hand amongst them. survivors of previous conflicts a journey people never thought they'd have to make thousands of refugees arriving at berlin's main train station. among them, women, children,
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grandparents and many international students. all of them fling the war in ukraine, exhausted after days on the move. yes and gov, the city de la d. i met so many people who help me with open hearts and so much love but valuable . you know, and i hope this love will help that we will manage this. my husband stayed in cave . my family, my mother's i'm so worried about them. sorry, i can't talk anymore. we built the room. so it really was, it was a visa bus missed if so could us were safe now. yeah. so everything's okay. the web is not yours. knows this for you like every one there. we just felt so hopelessly but we made it here. last night we were so scared, every one was saw it for the firing and a horrible experience. my life. i never ever forget. never ever
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volunteers are picking people up from the platforms and bringing them here to get some help. this is where they can get a hot drink, warm clothes and medical attention. alongside the age organizations, dozens of volunteers have just turned up to help in any way they can, many offering to translate for people. others are handing out food and clothing. this help of fled to germany from syria 7 years ago. undisguised guns canarvy the luther. i know exactly how these people are feeling. they've left their homes, their loved ones, they just want a safe life. even with the knocker, the height. some people are planning to stay in berlin for now. many have friends or family here. others want to travel onwards. refugees from ukraine can take the train for free in germany and elsewhere in europe. for many, this is just one stop on an even longer journey. ulan palka is a member of the german parliament for the green sea, joins us from older city of dublin,
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which is on the border with ukraine. welcome to v w. i. mr. parker, what have you seen of refugees of fleet fleeing the fighting? thank you so much for having me. i visited the border crossing human deacon yesterday and i will visit another one tomorrow. and people are coming with little to no belongings. at least those who come by bus or by foot. and then of course, devastating to see people that have left almost everything behind, at least for the next few months, but fully dirty among the polish civil society and also from other countries. this tremendous i've seen qualities from the netherlands from denmark, spain, italy, france, and this is, could really be a break in europe against the refugee policy and the feeling among the society. at least this is what i hope. and i think it is one of the very few bright moments we're seeing the space right now. roughly 100000
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people are coming to poland every day. similar and other bought us to crate neighboring countries and experts. i think that this will continue at least for the next week. and you, why do you think there has been this universal outpouring of welcome across european countries where it was much spot here in 2015 when there was even resistance from some countries? what do you think has changed? what is different? well, i can only speculate. i'm not the professor. i can only sum up the basins, but i think that this conflict is so close to europe, and the influx is coming from right from the neighboring country from the ukraine. we share bothers with ukraine with ukraine, people. they are among our societies. and i think the aggressive is one that we all
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know very well, and that has a long history and syria and also in ukraine with strong military interventions. and so i think this could be one explanation, but i'm happy to hear others and their views that will certainly also come over the next 2 weeks because this is really outstanding. what we're seeing these days this, despite the apparent welcome, we have had multiple reports from asia and africa, nationals being met with hostility at the polish border. are you aware of those concerns? yes, i've also seen the videos and i also met some of the people who tried to cross the border and where rejected that were threatened by the police. and it is to me, still unclear, but those aggressions were coming from ukraine or officials, or polish officials. this something i cannot confirm, but yes, i can confirm that this discrimination happened that bought it and it's something
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that we cannot accept monday. any terms people on the move, regardless their nationality or their look have the same rights and the same need for protections as you create national good talking to thank you so much for joining us. so union parker, a member of the german parliament for the greens. thank you very much. he watching the w special coverage of russia. so war with you crime, here's a recap of today's main developments. russian forces of sees control of ukraine's as upper easier i'm nuclear power plant. ukraine says russian troops fired shells at the plant over night, killing several people, and sparking a fire as a training building were latest of condemned the attack saying it risks a major nuclear disaster. on the largest nuclear power plant in europe shelled by russian forces a relief to many only
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a training building was set on fire and ukrainian emergency services were able to extinguish the blaze. so it's important to say that all the safety systems of the 6 reactors at the plant were not affect it at all. and that there has been no release of radioactive material. ukraine authorities said several people died in the fire. the attack sparked a furious reaction from cave or assist keaton. the russian tanks knew what they were shelling, they were aiming directly at the station. this is tara, on an unprecedented level, or we like immediate tumbling of sanctions against lucon. jerry, having the nichoela terrorist, we need immediate closure of the sky of u craver. this is the only guarantee that russia, at least, will not strike with rockets involvement, targeting new killer plans yet from the i've our ball moment. we'll add them of the
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the nato allies were quick to rule out establishing a no fly zone. once again. although they were united in condemnation of the russian attack, the number of ukrainian cities remained under heavy bombardment. the black sea port of cason is the only major urban centre to fall under russian control. since evasion began, more than a week ago, you crane accuses russia of deliberately targeting civilians, stretches in while people around the country appear. determined to resist the all over ukraine. people are getting ready to fight latitude in live. if those with combat experience teach those who have never held a gun before idea for one of the rubric, thoughtful, i came here to get some understanding of what to do, how to defend myself and how to survive. if the enemy comes for war of the knocker, and while it still com and live eve devastation elsewhere could give an indication
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of what could come. this is what the outskirts of keith look like. with russian forces advancing in the east and south president vladimir putin claimed that his so called special military operation is going to plan what is he gets a libby and russian soldiers and officers are acting bravely like true heroes issue . our troops fight with persistence, and full understanding that the cause is right all and when you minute produce, we will do all in the south. russian troops and that tanks have taken control of the key black sea port of how sun. they are also pressuring the port city of merrier pole. there is no water or electricity and the depths of winter to the east, ukraine's 2nd largest city. how he, if is still standing, despite russia's advances. but heavy bombardment has left buildings and ruins and dozens of civilian dead. it shall noth,
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nothing if we full go to forbid i live with him. next will be luck via home. in lithuania is stony, own ga, moldova, poland, value, and then they will go to the berlin wall. voice is dark bordered when the door barely ins, question me a 2nd round of talks between russian and ukrainian negotiators has met with some progress as the 2 sides agree to establish humanitarian corridors. in some areas. for those resident was not a could not yet escape any such corridors could provide some desperately needed respite such as time to recap the latest developments in new cray. i'm russian forces have seized control of europe, some largest nuclear power plant at japanese you in ukraine, southeast. and you, craig says, russian troops fired shells of the facility, killing several people in spot in a fight as a trading building. authorities say no reactors were damaged and no lake of
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radioactive material has been detected. well, let us have condemned russia for risking. i'm banquet nuclear disaster. more on this around the clock, of course, on our website, the w dot com and on the act. i'll be back in a couple of minutes at the top of the day with with
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ah, ah ah, the w 9 from berlin that russian forces sees ukraine's largest nuclear power plant . an early morning attack killed several people as sparks of fire at an onside training facility. officials confirm that has been no radiation leak. ukraine says russia is risking a major nuclear accident. also on the program, russia forces battlefield control of more ukrainian cities after taking the strategic port of castle on the black sea, ukraine's leaders urge people to defend the country anyway they.

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