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ah, next d, w. o alive and on demand, comcast and language courses, video and audio. any time anywhere. but d, w media center this is dina, up in years, africa on the program to day. the africans struggling to escape the conflicts in ukraine. hundreds of thousands of people are fleeing the fighting in ukraine. among them are tens of thousands of african students. we hear how, what made it to safety and of her harrowing experience as she tried to get out of the country. it was very dull. it was horrible, like i remember i was shivering, literally learned less countries around the world,
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overwhelmingly denounced rushes invasion of ukraine in a un vote. but why did so many african countries refused to do so. also coming up we will meet the group of marlene, this calling for their country to ditch west and partners and strengthened ties with moscow instead. and in a, another big development this week, one that some of calling a watershed moment for the plan is un countries gathered at a summit. nairobi agreed to create a legally binding treaty. that bay sate will end plastic pollution. ah hello, i'm christine. wonder. it's good to have your company rushes invasion of ukraine has triggered a historic mass movement of people, no seen,
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and you're in decades or then a 1000000 people have already freight the country according to the u. n's refugee agency. and that number is growing by the date among those fleeing rushes. bombs are african students studying at universities in ukraine, according to ukrainian officials. there were about 16000 of them before the conflict began. some of them have reported receiving races, treatment from ukrainian officials, who they say pushed them back as they tried to flee. not some african students are still in ukraine and trying to get out and others are in other european countries. some have left for africa like one medical student who was now safely back home in ghana. she shared her experience with us. oh, when with together again, priscilla ajar and her father, samuel, after a terrifying week, the 3rd year medical student was studying at a university in western ukraine when the war broke out. what it was very dial. it
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was horrible. like i remember i was shivering literally when like my school said that okay, you guys could go was like which to me that your school seething peers, etc. of it's now there was similar fear back home in ghana. her family was closely monitoring events in far away ukraine and not for the 1st time. there anxiety is a reminiscent of what happened in 2014 because in 24 june. my son was also in dennis. and the same issue happened and to her to the tray round from dentist to dakota. keith. so i'm the 2nd one, russell struggled for lazurick. oh, a lot of anxiety, emotional trauma. like to do that. we don't down far below us. would that priscilla made for the border closest to her city and we took
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a bath. so we just took it was and then we, after some time the madison no moving vehicles on normal v animal. so we had to trick for i think over an hour and how is so that's how we go to the end is that it was missing so many people ukrainian gun. yeah. and bob, when's you share? india is everybody, everybody in tennessee as she crossed into romania and like many other gunny and students, made it back home safely. but priscilla still has major concerns as the war escalades in ukraine. so let's see that the destroyer within the country. the country has to go through developmental see just again. so what as, what like, what's i see for us? i don't know if our school be orders will be destroyed or whatever. so it's quite had in some, and it's worry,
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very worry. and we don't know if we can go back to school. if we would finish who were complete, i always go back to square one or what the answers might not come for a while. but being with family can be the great comfort priscilla and others like her need right now. now, priscilla agenda, there's all safely home now, but many others are not. while some have made it out of ukraine and now a neighboring countries. there are still some african national stuck in ukraine and trying to get out early. i spoke to who said that, my medical, he's the chairperson of the niger into as for in hungry he was at the border between hungry and ukraine. we are here last night. you get them out to get to the city we brought along with us from all the best. somebody opened it to the clothes. so this
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guy does. all right, great. we have them. i think well yeah. ah, who seine are we? we're hearing all have been hearing accounts off africans trying to leave ukraine. they've been reporting that they've been not allowed into trains leaving ukraine. they say they've experienced racism and ill treatment from ukrainian officials that are on the ground. are you still hearing accounts? is this still continuing to happen as people try to leave ukraine when we hear about this situation, but you see college body, right? because our job is really just to come into high gear mode. what's happening?
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i did renew would oh wait. we have no idea. but we have people on, in making complaints that they are being taken off from the train, from the bosses. ah, but we don't know what, what reason her seine, how many people do you know of that are still in ukraine, and once you get out, what are they telling you i do any difficult to predict. how many people are you? great because you don't have the actual number of them before now. so all i know is not only me all you need to agree was yeah. for numbers. yeah. calling us getting a mission on what to do. ok. and what we, what we tell them what we can do for them. and that was out of his vision
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that call in that crime, antelli knows that children i that you've been in the border and they don't know what to do with. try to come down and tell them we are on top of the situation to grow with the embassy. we are trying to do our best to see what we can do for don't how we can help them. we guide many of them to the hotel, to a place where the charity organization is providing shelter with them that need are hungry. now provide food for that. we have volunteers who go there to cook for them . and i wish you all the what we yes, and he said, but a, sorry we're talking about the people who are still in ukraine right now. we'll talk about those that have left. but for those who are still in ukraine,
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what kind of support do they need to leave? many of them out one day a week. so the question, the actually that are, which is the easiest order for them to cross? so as i told you earlier, that just be our scepter in you grade in the cities, which about that is close up with them to go that way. i don't receive them to come into hungry because i some of them i get important. ok. and for those that have now managed to get out and are not and some are in poland, slovakia and others in hungry way you are. what is this situation? there are the situation is still we're trying to get them registered them would demi know joe,
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we have tried to kill demolition that i can do. so my district, counties of our places who does come in to, to accommodate them for a short period of time. and we, i just started them there. that was who seine obama to college speaking to us from the border between hungry and ukraine. now, the 1st group of more than $400.00 nigerians evacuated from ukraine, have landed in a butcher. the group comprised mostly of students. they arrived on a government charted flight from romanian capital, bucharest. they are among 14000 nigerian nationals who were known to be in ukraine before the war began. that's according to the niger and foreign ministries because it is unclear if and when they can go back to ukraine. now this week, the un general assembly overwhelmingly denounced russia for invading ukraine. but
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while most of the world stood together in rebuking rushes, aggression, many african countries opted to stay neutral and not take a stance inner vote at the un general assembly. $141.00 countries voted in favor of a resolution that also ordered russia to withdraw its troops from ukraine. only 4 countries joined russia in voting against the resolution of the 35 countries that abstained. 17 are from african. they include symbol way, uganda synagogue, and south africa. to talk more about that, we invited our, the analyst annual a daily from the think tank. chatham house on to the program. he has been researching ties between african countries and rash. i asked him why he thinks many african nations chose to abstain in that you in 1st and to what extent that reflects the views of ordinary people in these countries. i mean, ultimately i the,
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the reason why a few of these countries like soccer and i've seen bob with, for example, give prob, stating was the fact that they said that they did not see anything in the resolution. our, our mich piece is out to our chief in the conflict between russia and ukraine. so i think the surprising thing for me, and this is that if both of these countries started, the resolution was not well written. i think this is of godaddy dollar. instead of our actually our from the vote yesterday. all right, and as i was saying you, you focus on russia in africa. that is the focus of your work. how would you characterize rushes? prisons in africa. it's a day is, is russia as significant player in and on the continent? yeah, i mean, i think it depends on how you define significance. but the truth of the mother is russia as an eye on africa since 2014. i next crimea in ukraine because
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decided i didn't need the pilots to find problems outside of the west. africa is one such this way to set it to stick new partners, russian men strategy in africa as the defense and security partnerships. but it is also trying to increase trade links with african countries. i d, u n. a security council just and yet this year, it's a country that is growing closer to by looking to vote on echo our sanctions on my . so that's part of russian strategy on africa to try and increase trade links, but also get some support towards position at most electro organizations like the u . n. n. and to sit in and it stay on molly. as you've brought money up, i want to specifically ask you about that country because we know money has been betting this to hardest insurgency for, for just about a decade. now in the last month, france at the waste and allies announce that they will be withdrawing their presence on that country. and it's almost it's been said that russia is going to be
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filling that void. tell us more about this. yeah, i just said molly, i've been battling some is on mr. c. for almost a decade now. last year, president minor macro and announced that it was going to reduce the number of french troops in this i out. and the way it responded was to say that they were going to shop for new jersey partners. but i think there's much of this, there's obviously most of the story done. just francis, dry and out. some of the troops, as you well know, there has been some be to cause in molly 1st in august 2020. i'd say currently in may 2021. that does lead to erupt. sorry, relationship between france and my and so in the back you, the russian private military company called wagner as stepped into food 0. and i think for people who don't know, wagner is a private military company. that is often detroit to odd spots around the 4th and
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syria, or the libya they've been in central africa public. and now the are going to be in my to, to, to i step off not a minute. all right, that is a duty talking to say from the chatham house think tech. thank you. and it stay with money because not only was the country among those who didn't condemn brushing that you invert, but it is one example of a country seeking closer ties with russia, especially as the longstanding relationship with the former colonial power france deteriorates. d w. so west africa, corresponding russia, cora is in the country and she made a group who see russia as the best partner for the country going forward. oh, move slow, missouri. oh, yeah, i bought love france. now that loosely translates to thumbs down. france, and that's one of the major messages of this group,
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the euro or low move males. now the euro lo move made has been growing very fast hearing mileage. they started in 2019 with only 12 members, and now they tell me they can't even keep tabs with exactly how many people are members of the group. and many people here in miley believe that this group is the only hope for the future of 8 surely. independence miley at darma, ben tiara, is leading this movement. he was at the forefront of the massive protests that led to the ousting of the french ambassador. and the french military, he's now a member of the transition parliament, and he's pushing for strong that ties between molly and russia. after losing it, it's only logical the were pursuing a win win relationship with russia. lady c, as good as, as russia was her 1st partner after independence, me the id and we found the russia sincere in their partnership in little was you good luck. why we prefer russia over france mariano,
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while i was not our choices justify, because russia has never colonized any country is too huge, referred to lucy in their popular museum. be there at the marley's partnership with moscow runs deep miley receives most of its military equipment from russ, shall hon. jets of russia miss synergies operating under the kremlin lynx wagner group are deployed in molly and most of the currents military leaders were trained in russia. many even speak the language. some observers, however, say strength me, the russian malia relationship might not be the best solution in the long run. maybe to day, it just feels like the military answer is the best answer. so probably, you know, even if you look at worn ranking, a, russia would be a better option. close, it's the 2nd, you know, a movie power on and the word. but economically,
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it's not the best partnership for us, or frankly, from one to fix things we have to fix us. we have to things freaks ourselves. if it was after the year will oh, movement. money would cause highs to france entirely. that seems almost impossible to us. french inflows pervades almost every aspect of life here they are calling. it's a watershed moment for the planet. you and countries have agreed to create a legally binding global treaty to address plastic pollution in the world's oceans and rivers and landscape. i see no objections. it is so decided the un environment to assembly voted unanimously at this meeting in the canyon capital nairobi for a resolution to end plastic pollution. it sets the stage for international
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negotiations designed to produce a treaty by 2024. the treaty would cover the full life cycle of plastics including production, design, and disposal. the head of the human environment program said it was an historic still. the bottom line is we will eliminate plastic pollution from our environment and that is critical. and so i, without a doubt, this is a very, very big decision. and for more in this we've invited richard more now on to the program. he is the deputy director of the you in environment assemblies, africa office. he's also climate coordinator for africa and he joins me now from nairobi where the summit has been taking place. welcome to date of in years africa . richard, you've described the passing of this resolution as history being made. tell us, why is it so significant, richard, what will it change?
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i thank you very much for having me. this resolution that have been adopted by the united nations involvement assembly near 5.2 is quite very significant because we are the time when the environmental challenges are actually on the width of the entire will. and if you look at plastics, it's not just a man is to the environment, but as we speak today, every year, 11000000 tons of plastics actually getting into the oceans on lead during and destroying aquatic life on killing up to 100000 marine animals. this is a huge issue, and this is the 1st time in the history of the world that actually it won't allow throw environmental agreement has actually been forced to when member states and tell us more about this resolution. i richard, this resolution that will effectively end this,
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this plastic pollution that you're talking about. what does it actually mean practically? yo others means is that it paved away to what is called an integral mental negotiating commentary, which is going to put in place what is needed, the processes that are needed to after the result into a full treaty that is going to be, will well in binding and this will take into considerations how plastic is produced, how plastic is design and hyde ends up in the economy, not in oceans. and these is something the router all resolved to credit drobek. others begin to lay only 10 percent of plastics globally. absolutely. cycle. that means 90 percent or not and these also present opportunities. so what, when to happen between now and 2024 is that the entire governmental negotiating committee will be set up. and then the treat will finally come into force by 2024
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of those 2 years from today. and this is a very horton opportunity for the world to actually address these critical environment or challenge yet. and in the event that it does come into force as you are saying, add this tracy. what would it mean for our daily lives? what i mean for our daily lives will be jobs, especially for our young people are in the african continent. today we have 2 of 1000000 young people who are getting into the labor market and competing all over 3000000 jobs. and in 18 years from today, we will have about 420000000 a year. they're all getting into the labor market. what these resolution does is because is globally binding countries will then be able. busy to dominate scheduled indian national legislation that will could be enabling environment for plastic to actually do recycle for plastic to actually be turned into opportunity to go to look across the entire con condo. we are seeing young people who are turning plastic wis into pitman tiles that are replacing concrete blocks, thus,
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unopened unity for business. it will create an opportunity in which recycling will come to non in countries. and back is really an opportunity for jobs. but more importantly, in about it, in the us from today, we will have more plastic in our oceans, dunphy h, most of the people to burn on fish for quota. and therefore means it is an opportunity to be hands for security, which is already a problem today. as a result, ocean science, inter after there, and you're making the point about plastic being in the minutes that it is and, and i'm thinking, is this not entirely a ban on plastic? is that not what we should be aiming for? of course re site in class, it would be really helpful, but when we get to a stage where we actually banning plastic or is that not practical? we are getting to his church in which we are introducing what is call us a call a economy. hi, you produce plastics. hi, you repackage plastics. will be inside
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a way that instead of the plastics produced on the end of in environment the old recycle back into the economy. and that will create opportunities. and that will also provide an opportunity to look for alternatives. and what else can don jose rather than just focusing on plastics? can we'll look at all our alternatives in which ad opportunities can credit. and these, if you look at these, we are seeing young people who are using already or what a hastens. you look like vittorio in east africa here. that's what a hasan that grows there, that grabs it, actually been used to turn into. but right, and we've had that origin, richard who are the biggest perpetrators when it comes to plastic pollution. plastic is actually in trans boundary issue, plastic produce in africa. we end up in oceans that bought us different continent, plastic produce in or out of the world end up in africa. so if you look at it globally, there are $242000000.00 tons of classic that is been produced africa on look on to
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be about 30 percent of these because i forgot producing probably about or 60000000 tons. and so at this point in time, it's hard to, we didn't turn this charlene, you'd want to look at it, it does the most important. and that's why, okay, the entire global community, as demonstrated today. and, and just as you were saying this, this, this resolution is not yet legally binding. a process has to happen for that to happen. do you anticipate that it's going to be easy to get that through b, $109.00. the 3 countries are ring on the resolution to credit the entire government . all negotiating committee to pivot away for a treaty was already a very wonderful powerful step forward. and therefore, because emily called maggie's definitely did to do, will be realised because the process to keep started until moved to was or treaty is already underway. all right, and thank you very much at sir richard, man,
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a deputy director of the you in environment assemblies, africa office is also climate coordinator for africa. congratulations and richard, and thanks so much for coming on to fill us in on this historic development. thank you for having me, bridget, and that's we will leave it today here on dw news africa. i will see you next time . ah ah, with
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