tv DW News - News Deutsche Welle March 9, 2022 3:00pm-3:30pm CET
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[000:00:00;00] ah ah, this is did it renews life from rural in a nation under fire? ukraine, civilians caught in the cross hairs of the war efforts continue to evacuate civilians after russia and ukraine. agree a new cease fire covering several cities. but key accuses rushes, forces of attacking previous escape routes. and the leaders of germany and canada discussed the war in ukraine. here in the german capital, they pledge more support for keith,
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but german chancellor of charles rules out sending more planes to the conflict. ah, hello everyone, i'm layla rock. thank you so much for joining us. renewed efforts are underway to get civilians out of besieged cities in ukraine for a 2nd day. russia and ukraine say they will observe a ceasefire to provide 6 evacuation routes. it's unclear though, whether safety can be guaranteed conditions are worsening for people stuck in zones targeted by russian. shelly as the invasion, meeks resistance, there are fears. the russian military could step up a tax on civilian areas. it's the 1st successful humanitarian corridor allowing desperate civilians to flee during
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a pause in the fighting. these convoys carried people from the north eastern city of summa, which is experienced heavy shelling in recent days. president vladimir lensky said it was just the start for the lunches of people are saved about humanitarian aid has been delivered. but this is just a small percentage of what we have to do. and what is expected of us. we already humanitarian aid is ready and our transports are ready. well there further west. people fleeing the key f suburb of our pin, crossing a damaged bridge that russian troops have repeatedly fired on as civilians tried to get across. heartbreaking goodbyes. as many of the men left their families to go back and fight others, helping those unable to make the journey by themselves. who are you yearly yearly? you know we are fleeing, he was, she is barely walking,
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but we are doing our best. thank you. that is good that we could cross the bridge. bombs are exploding over there. quite attending of european is totally damaged. just the civil mover here. 0 military analysts say the onslaught will likely get worse in the coming days. russian forces are increasingly turning to shelling civilian areas and infrastructure. these air raid sirens in kiev warning people to stay indoors as the invasion entered its 14th day. ah, but as the dawn broke, the national anthem echoed through the streets a message of solidarity. ah, the show of resistance continues in kerosene. the 1st major city to fall under
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russian control ah, the capital, a symphony orchestra played a concert to those who stayed behind a brief moment of beauty to counter the scenes of destruction that are becoming commonplace in ukraine. a sick you to keep a city under pressure corresponded. mathias bellinger is in the ukrainian capital for you. tama mathias rather. where do things stand 2 weeks into the invasion. yeah, we've heard the news. many places are really in bad in, in, in dire conditions or places that have, i have been under siege where, or where food is, is i shortages of food where they are full of problems with water, electricity. or you, paul,
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is one of them. we do not know whether the humanitarian corridor has worked there. it seems that there have been no positive news from there. we still hope, but it's not completely clear what has happened. been happening there, but it doesn't look too good in other places. it's a little bit better. some people have been evacuated from. we've seen it. the northwestern suburbs of key of and also from so me in the north. but we have other places where the humanitarian situation is getting worse and worse. the russian troops are advancing very slowly. the ukrainian army is still doing heavy is, is resisting a fiercely the advance and are quite successful in destroying a lot of our russian technology. just a few hours ago we heard loud explosions here in the sky over key. if are these were again, planes that were shut down by the air defense systems, the ukrainian and defense systems. um, it's a, it's quite a bloody and
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a wasteful war where, where russia is losing a lot of its materials and many soldiers die. so that's where we stand, we don't have a clear way where it's heading. it seems stuck, mathias, ours, the effort to get civilians out from war torn cities going with different in different places. there was the idea today that the ceasefire would allow to advocate 8 civilians from all the places that are under pressure. that would mean my report which i mentioned to me journey eve and the north western suburbs of cave as well as some other places near. near harker in the north east. um. some of them have worked, but many of them seem not to have worked and even there where people have been evacuated, there are still many staying behind in these very dire conditions. so the humanitarian situation is really grave. very grave,
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and of course there now worries that russia might double down what you're hearing about russia intensifying its attacks across the country. and that's again hard to say. there has been, there have been attacks throughout the time, and russia is advancing slowly. um, but what we see that russia does not do it is not able to to, to turn the page completely, the gains that it has made in the south are there, but then the north, it's more there. they are stalling. um it, we are hearing that russia is regrouping, is bringing in new technology and is preparing for an a major assault on kia and other places in the north. but we do not know whether they will succeed or not until now. their successes have been a limited let say it, they are, of course here and there at martin and they have occupied territory. but they did not achieve the goals that they had said themselves are,
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and they're not near any and not anywhere near the american american experts and the american government seems to be thinking that surrounding key of which would be one, a goal, 111 step towards taking the city is still at least a few days away did have a correspondence at mathias bidding, her reporting from the ukrainian capital that he has. thank you very much for your continued coverage. meanwhile, the pentagon has rejected an offer from the polish government to transfer fighter jets to the united states for use in ukraine pentagon press secretary, john kirby says the plan is not tenable. poland wanted to transfer. it's soviet era, make 20 nines to the u. s. for delivery to the ukranian air force, the polish offer was in response to ukraine's appeal for fighter planes that its pilots are trained to fly. but the us feel that the deal could be viewed by russia
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as a hostile move. vice president come on, harris will have a chance to smooth things over when she meets the polish president in warsaw on thursday. we go now where we'd like to turn out to lieutenant general ben hodges. he's a retired us army officer and the former commander of us forces in europe, and he joins us from frankfurt. germany, a very good day, sir. so good of you to make some time out to speak to us. why is sending weapons in to ukraine acceptable? but sending fighter jets untenable? according to the pentagon. yeah, i completely disagree with this decision by the pentagon or the announcement. if that's the case, i'm not sure that the book is closed on this. so i love the initiative about poland to capability that you currently need, so they can defend them. so i'm sure it's more complicated underneath than it seems
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. and i'm willing to bet that we're going to eventually get there. but to the point of your question, i would not make the difference that writing aircraft is bad, but providing japanese good or acceptable. so i hope we get this fixed very quickly . would you be in favor of nato intervening or enforcing a no fly zone over ukraine? as the ukrainians have been pleading nato to do well, for sure, we cannot repeat what we did. its revenue. so in 1995, where europe in soldiers under a un mandate stood outside the city, while 8000 bosnia men and boys were murdered by republic services for horses. so we, we can do that or what deliberate murder of ukrainian citizens every single day because they're being targeted by russian forces. still,
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this is not in consequential. if nato gets inside the ukrainian air space and on the ground and ukraine, that, that potentially changes the nature of what's going on here. for sure, nato air forces would destroy russian air forces. but the bigger point is, what are the implications and, and we want to preserve the unity of the alliance. so this is not a decision to be taken alone by the united states. i do think it's worth considering though. most of the damage this being done in the cities is not by the russian air force. it's being done by systems on the ground missiles, rockets, artillery, fired from russian units inside ukraine and also inside russia. and by the black sea fleet, what can we do to help you crane, destroy those anti ship capability, more intelligence, longer range systems where we, cranium, could destroy the source of this damage. so how long do you think that the, that ukraine's army could withstand this russian onslaught?
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do you think that the longer this war goes on, the harder will be for russia to win it? or the more difficult it will be for ukraine to stand its ground. you know, absolutely, ukraine is going to win this. russia is not going to get in to keep the russians made the decision to transition to attrition warfare. and to do that, you have to have time, you have to have unlimited ammunition, and you have to have unlimited manpower. and russia has none of those 3. the sanctions are going to begin to take real effect in the next few weeks. and that's going to affect their, their time as well as their population. they do not have unlimited ammunition. we're already hearing reports of shortages of some key munitions again, sanction, sell here. and they have a manpower problem. now they've already stocked the departure of some troops who are due to in their conscription and they're trying to recruit mercenaries from
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syria. so this manpower problem is big for them, whereas the logistical effort from the west for ukraine is only just now picking up speed. so i think actually time is on the side of your brain, but the ukrainians are gunned and outnumbered. i mean, how can they possibly win this? the national, they're not numbered. there's more than 200000 troops in ukraine's land forces. and then you've got a very large territory force. and then we've seen very clearly that the ukranian population is willing to fight to, to do things. russia does not have that many soldiers inside, inside ukraine. so there is not, they're not out numbered. clearly the russians have the advantage from sea power at this point, air power, but they have not demonstrated the overwhelming air power superiority that frankly, i would have expected. so i think that in this case,
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because the logistics is going to improve is improving for the ukrainians, and it only gets more difficult for the russians. i think the ukraine as long as the west slicks together and continues to support. i think ukraine has a chance to, to come out of those on the right side. and in conclusion, sir, i just want to ask you, should the us engage with russia? should the us engage directly with the kremlin to stop this bloodshed? well, here's what we should be doing. oh, april. the 1st one, april, 130000 young russian men, 1920 years old. have to report for duty at conscription centers is the scheduled next wave of conscription. that means 130000 families are about to send their son and brother off to become cannon fodder as private in the russian army to fight in a war of laws against laws. i think if we could somehow reach even a 3rd of those families and they refused to send their son to conscription,
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that would be like an earthquake inside russia. and this is what we need is pressure, organic pressure from inside russia. this is how this come. so conclusion, retired lieutenant general, ben hodges, the former commander of us forces in europe. sir, thank you for your time. thank you for the privilege. canadian prime minister justin trudeau and german chancellor. all our shawls have just finished holding talks in berlin. the pair discussed the transatlantic response to the russian invasion of ukraine. the u. along with the u. s. u. k. and canada have announced a raft of sanctions against russian oligarchy, banks and companies. germany is already cancel thing north stream to gas pipeline from russia and e leaders have drawn a plan to cut dependence on russian energy sources. let's take a listen to the german chancellor and the canadian prime minister speaking moments
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ago under was not of do you agree, agree that the russian attack on ukraine marx, a turning point for europe, but also for world peace. the russian attack on ukraine is a blatant breach of international law. the world we live in is no longer the same is in its freedom. we now see many attacks on ukrainian cities, schools, and holmes, the suffering of the ukrainian people in this war zone leaves us speechless muscle short. what we need now is a ceasefire. and my appeal to the russian president is this will stop the blood shed, withdraw the russian troops, ferguson scenes, devotion tokens, or canada, and germany stand together against buttons invasion. he represents a threat to democracy, to security, and to peace in europe and around the world. this morning i spoke with president zelinski highlighted once again the strength and determination of ukrainian people
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and told him that canada will soon be sending highly specialized equipment to them and invited him to address parliament in canada. and he accepted the canaday. lal mang a stick you were to do of your correspondence, sir. nina has a she it has been listening to that press conference that took place moments ago. you know, both leaders seem to be keen to deescalate the conflict and the chancellor, they are coming out very strongly against sending warplanes to ukraine. what more can you tell us about that? that's correct. the german chancellor will have shows and the canadian prime minister just introduced, stressed again that they stood in solidarity with ukraine. but when asked about whether germany would allow polish fighter jets to leave an american abbeys here in germany or love. so it was very clear and said we have to be extremely careful in how we show this holiday charity with ukraine that does not include fighter planes
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where it will have shorts, his words. so of course, this is an extremely difficult line for the west to tread an extremely tricky thing because they don't want to create a situation where vladimir putin could interpret nato park countries to become, to have become parties in this war. and just introduce, also stressed to the fact that germany and canada and nato countries don't want to escalate this situation. thereby essentially supporting will have choices words. and nina, the chairs are also addressed energy security concerns that's also true. i mean, everybody knows that germany is highly dependent on russian energy imports much more so than countries like the us or canada. and so this is a very tricky issue for germany and both sides and her daughter stressed again, the fact that both countries are trying to di, carbonized their economies. germany wants to become
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a climate neutral by 2045. and it was important both said to not lose focus and to essentially push for those climate friendly technologies. a canadian prime minister just introduce said that he supports all have choices initiative of the international climate club, where you essentially like minded countries, are really going to try and diversify energy supplies. and all i've showed said that he's hoping for an intensive partnership with canada. when it comes to building links in terms of hydrogen imports, because of course, canada will be in a position where they can produce environmentally friendly hydrogen power in a couple of years time. and germany wants to import that and on this topic of energy diversification. this work has already proved to be a catalyst for change in terms of german policy or their attempts, nina to speed up the transition to clean energy here in this country. well,
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that's what the 3 parties that form this new government coalition air in germany set out to do. but of course now eh, with this a war going on in ukraine that was initiated by russia. this topic has, of course, jumped to the top of the agenda even more. and now germany does want to exit coal by 2030. that was one of the promises that the government parties here made to the german people. but it is looking as though gemini might have to find those different solutions in the period between now and the year 2030, where they tried to reduce their dependency on russian energy imports. and so the economy minister for bad harbor from the greens has already said that if they are looking into all the various options and that to maybe even coal power plants might have to run longer. they're also exploring whether a nuclear power plant might have to run longer, even though they're really old here in germany. and that doesn't seem to be
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a very likely option. but shots stress, again the german chancellor. that it, it, it is very important to not lose focus that we want to de, carbonized our economy. and of course, the big question is just how quickly gemini can get rid of its dependency on russian energy imports. did have your corresponding in assa reporting in a thank you. the refugee ac services, seeing thousands of ukrainians arrived here in berlin every day is called the capital off guard and is pushing resources to the limit. berlin says it can't cope alone and has appealed to help for help rather from other parts of the country. safe at last, far from the lou ukrainian refugees at this shelter arrived in berlin. a few days ago, traumatized and exhausted. very few were willing to talk to us. one woman from the besieged city of car give told us she finally managed to get some sleep after
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arriving here. she can't hold back her tears. what it looks like. he quoted, my sister still there his own would all come for that. she lives in an apartment block on the 8th floor that you had. she told me. she'll never leave. she'd rather die their bombs and missiles raining down on the city. will dial it when you're about 140 people have found temporary shelter here. they're being cared for. in part by an en geo that operates shelters like these. it's manager tells us time is of the essence in this crisis. and having to under enough, i got a glory. i am on sunday morning to say the people would be moving in that day just because my colleagues work like crazy inconstant shift just to get everything ready over the song ducks. 2 buses arrived carrying refugees in the course of the day, and we thought that was it, but by evening, another passport out to our door with no advance notice to you. after arriving at berlin central train station people are taken to their accommodation. more than
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10000 refugees from ukraine are arriving every day. the city has sounded the alarm saying it can't cope. germany's interior minister has promised to help. we can be angry or evaluating how to provide refugees from the war zones with a place to stay in germany. naturally, they can't all stay in berlin. the city can't cope on its own melina line and i police them. the government is working on a plan to coordinate the distribution of refugees, but all of germany states have pledged to take people in or near the chair to which is possible. i just want to say thank you to germany for helping us in this situation. the 1st of all, i can now, and i will try to help the country in any way i can as bessy will they? so it will take time to settle refugees across germany until then berlin will have to continue rolling out the help for new arrivals. while among the millions of civilians who have fled,
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ukraine are many families with children. the situation is even more precarious for kids with no parents to protect them. and that includes hundreds of orphans who have travelled long distances to seek refuge in a st. in safe havens in ukraine's west and in neighboring countries. ah, toddlers and babes in arms. these children are some of the most vulnerable of ukraine's refugees. from orphanages in the cave region. they're seeking shelter in poland. their 1st stop shame, a shall station. it's ukraine's busiest border crossing with its western neighbor. in the village of the same name, a local children's charity is ready to receive the latest arrivals, all 150 in a school sports who show many great volunteers for helping her food for her. you know, there would be lots of kids for like very small so we have to change diapers and et cetera,
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et cetera. happy kids has so far helped evacuate some to 1000 ukrainian orphans. the charity says it's doing its best not to separate the children once they arrive in poland. just 2 days ago we had a transport of 700 kids. ange, it's not easy to find a place for anybody, but it's even tougher to find a place for $700.00 kids. in the same one place for the south 93 orphans are sheltering on the hungarian border. for these children, conflict is nothing new. there from ukraine, separatist donnette screened in their refuge, a converted form, a boarding school in a village, separated from the rest of ukraine by the carpathian mountains. they've previously been staying at our tech children's company achieve. i will likely to enjoy some respite from the conflict when the invasion began in february.
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this latter go always run after we arrived in our tech, we had 2 loud blasts, much of an in the evening. we were told that we were to be evacuated to travel carpathia at 8 am or was in regards to the next morning. we left. we were very scared because we were surrounded by russian troops, the w holler. hon russell, come ashore liberally. the children and their guardians have been warmly welcomed by locals. chin came up and got her in tears from our parish, went to the border to the refugees gallery. they distributed sandwiches, coffee and team. and then lots of children began arriving in trans, carpathia, jetta, god over cuba. by allah. of the more than 2000000 people who have now fled ukraine, most have been welcomed into neighboring countries. residence of the former soviet states have much in common. they know how it feels to live in the shadow of russian dominance. it watching it every news and our special coverage on the war in
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ukraine coming up next and the w news. asia will follow hundreds of indian students on their harrowing escape from ukraine's battle ground. that story and a whole lot more coming up in just a moment with my colleague melissa chan. i'm really allow rock and berlin on behalf of all of us here. thank you very much for making this part of your day. ah,
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