ah ah ah ah, this is dw news live from berlin, talks between ukraine and russia, make no progress towards ending the war. ukraine's foreign minister says no agreement was reached on a temporary cease fire. he vows ukraine will never surrender as his russian counterpart defend the invasion. meanwhile, russian airstrikes hit 2 children's hospitals in ukraine. precedence zalinski is calling the attacks on civilians a genocide, western allies. one,

the assault could turn even more brutal as russian forces try to regain momentum. ah, i'm soon, he's almost gone to thank you for joining us. the foreign ministers of russia and ukraine have held their 1st face to face talks since the kremlin invasion, but the 2 sides failed to make any significant progress. the high level talks are being hosted by turkey on the side lines of a diplomacy form in antalya. russia's foreign minister, sir gay lover of said, president putin ease ready to sit down for a summit with ukraine's leaders. lensky, ukrainian foreign minister, demitrix labor reiterated, please to establish a humanitarian quarter and expressed hopes for further talks with moscow lover of it defended moscow's invasion of ukraine. let's listen to what he said. my will against militarization of ukraine with netapp without and doesn't matter. and we're

not happy with americans deploying some weapons that would keep our church under control. number 2, we are again supreme turning into a neo ne, says ne, ne san and consists of like living old not says traditions where others are new and as, as to marching all across ukraine and so forth. great. when those girls militants are trained in order to commit crimes and fag. so we want ukraine to be a neutral ne san present put in has said many times a lot that was that you were insisting on and neither not to expand anymore. we do not deprive your cramps from safety and security. on the contrary, we are ready to discuss the guarantees of safety to the benefit of a cranes along with those which is rubin nations. so your name's claudia, of course, considering citizen or russia safety,

ukraine's foreign minister pushed russia for an immediate response to agreeing to the safe passage for ukraine citizens. take a look in the meeting, i made a very simple proposal. i said, we all have our smartphones with us while probably minister laval hes his last i phone. but that's, that's another story. and i said i can call my officials right away. my president, my prime minister, my commander in chief and i give you 100 percent, that they will provide all assurances that humanitarian corridors will work. i am ready to do it right now, right here in your presence. can you do the same? can you make the call? i'm sure you have all of them in the phone book. he did not respond to that. ukraine, a strong ukraine is fighting ukraine, made the russian plan,

russian initial plans, fail. we're ready to seek balanced diplomatic solutions to put an end to this war. but we will not. our chief international editor, richard walker has been following this day of diplomacy for us, richard to very different messages we're hearing from the ukrainian or russian foreign ministers there. yeah, absolutely, i mean the tile style, the tone couldn't be more different but, but ultimately they're both kind of telling the same story which is that nothing really came out of these talks. there was a lot of anticipation about these talks in the last few days. the fact that the happening at all, or just over 2 weeks into this war being taken by many is an optimistic sign that maybe some kind of progress could be taken. also some signs in the messaging on both sides that they could be some opening up of potential political space where

you could potentially find scope for an agreement. but what we've heard today is essentially that no progress is being made even on things where you might imagine that they are obvious things that should be achieved at this point. for instance, a humanitarian corridor from mario of the city. this being a bombarded most heavily at the moment, mutual labor saying that he really wanted to achieve that. and complaining this as a lover of didn't have the mandate to make a decision like that, as we just heard in the clip that the lever off, according to labor is telling of accounts of this wasn't in a position to call his bosses and agree to something like that, so frustration, i think coming from caliber from pseg, a lever off. he was essentially saying we were talking about all of this monitoring issues. but the main issue that is on the agenda at the moment was not for discussion here. that is concrete proposals that the russians say that they handed

over to the cranium. that the last lower level talks which took place in belarus a few days ago. and that they're waiting for a response to those. so really quite extraordinary lack of progress, i would say given the fact that you had the 2 most senior figures this in this crisis meeting for a very long time. now this was the highest level context, as you said, since the start of the war, just to come back to this point on humanitarian quarter is on reaching some sort of common ground there. why has it been so difficult for both sides to find some sort of agreement on finding safe passage for ukrainians, particularly out of mar you where we've seen heavy bombing again yet with it's, it's a good question. of course, achieving sci fi is even local i. c, spies in was, is difficult, and even once they're agreed, they can sometimes break down. and it's not always clear where the responsibility lies for that. but of course, in this context, the aggressor is very obviously russia. and obviously, as the country that is being invaded,

ukraine has the greatest interest in providing these humanitarian corridors in providing opportunities to rescue the citizens that they feel responsible for. so i think it is a source of great frustration and it doesn't reflect well on the russians that these 5 have broken down at all so that they evidently were not in a position to agree on this in this meeting today, given what we saw today where do you think the next steps lie for further diplomatic talks yet? well, i mean, both sides are saying that they're open to more talks. and also the russians are saying, and this was one relatively concrete thing that we heard from 2nd level of. he said the vladimir putin is ready for a summit with his ukrainian count buffalo to me is lensky. but that a lot of preparation has to be done. of course, a summit meeting between the 2 leaders would be a really major event. and that would be really where we started to see whether it

was possible to find a political agreement around this crisis. but the way there is very onset, it, it's really quite hard to see how they get there from the position they're in at the moment. from the rush telling of things they're waiting for a response from the ukranian side. and from what we're hearing from for a lot of miss zalinski, there was an interesting interview that he gave to american television to sell you the week where he said, for instance, that he was going cool on the idea of george joining nato. right. and that there may be room to negotiate about issues like crimea and the easton breakaway regents of you. right. so some kind of signals coming from the ukrainians, also some signals coming from a dmitri pest golf that, that so vladimir putin spokesman about potential areas. well, centrally beginning to kind of lay out with more clarity what the russian political demands might be for a political sense of

a political settlement. so little bits of movement here and there the, the people being clinging on to. but if talks keep going like this is gonna take a very long time to make any progress. your chief international editor richard walker is always thanks so much for announce us brush. a nurse right have had to children's hospitals in ukraine. official say 3 people died including a child when a series of blasts hit a maternity hospital in the besieged city of mighty opal. russia denies reports as fake news and says ukrainian troops had taken over the building. but western al, i say the russian military is using weapons indiscriminately in what ukraine is calling a genocide. we want to warn you that this next report contains some disturbing images. rigor banu from rubel. this smouldering ruins not of a military installation, but a maternity hospital in mary. a poll the direct hit from an apparent

russian air strike st. women in labor fleeing into the cold. a hundreds i reported injured. mary paul has been the target of sustained bombing and shelling for days. mass graves have been dug for the dead. authorities have told people how to dispose of dead family members, wrapped their bodies, tie the limbs and leave them on the street. ukrainian president vladimir zalinski as calling russia's attacks on civilians, a genocide showing him whimper. when you would think you'd leave to day, we must be united in condemning this war crime of russia, which reflects all the evil that the occupiers have brought to our land. now with all the destroyed cities and everything they have done, no one is thought best trouble news or will roll over either ball but not an aerial

bomb. on the maternity hospital. is the conclusive evidence that what is happening is a genocide of ukrainians. grain. oh insult him, your russian bomb is head to more hospitals. ah, one of them another children's hospital. the city is nearly a 150 kilometer is west of here and has come under increasing fire. just the night before another civilian target was hit. the fluency this morning or your mom you this man will need a no fly zone any more, but we do not believe he won't need any fighter planes any more. what we do. we do have so diplomatic negotiations are stepping up. but

as russia perseveres with heavy shelling, ukrainian civilians are paying a high price for vladimir putin war o. i'm joined now by pitiless. what of shinkel he was president of ukraine from 2014 to 2019. and he is joining us from t if mr. push ankle, welcome to the w. we just saw images there from the bombed out maternity clinic and mighty you pull 1st, i want to start with getting your reaction to that attack. this is absolutely clear that this is the demonstration of the genocide of the russian troops and absolutely madness there. crazy maniac. pooh jim, that he can explain what more than 50 ukraine and children were killed by russian troops. only in mario board, the mayor of mighty, hopefully inform about 1300 killed surveillance. this is not only muddy hope and

when we have our maternity home, all children, hospital bed tech im more than 250 schools. more than 100 and plenty to hospitals, more than 2000 severe lim objects. and with this situation, this is no explanation. this is absolutely demonstration the bratia act, even not like an aggressive but there's a terroristic steps. and our reaction on these behavioral audio and rosalind jewels and russians bait would be exactly like terroristic steps. and now it is extremely important that the whole world is united. are mr. foxley, i don't really quick question. you said our reaction will be exactly like this. these terrorist that's what do you mean by that? it says that the we should be

a shoulder to shoulder in the demonstration there of support of ukraine not only by finance, not only by political means, but also in the defensive capabilities. with that situation, i think it would be difficult to explain why ukraine, who fighting here not only pull your brain on soil, not only for our children, all 4, our latest. we are fighting here for freedom for democracy because put in, declare the war, not only to ukraine by the whole west, he declared the war against germany against us, against gay against europe. and we should understand that. and given us the jet fighter given us there onto darren, could me styles law or ok launcher. ok. given as the i'm jack off, this is exactly the role we agree, ma'am he on the ground fighting. can you imagine that from here to the position of

that awesome troops is led them to m kilometers? and the funny i used to prompt, i understood it. let's talk about what you just mentioned, this message to the west. we've seen some reluctance to send fighter jets to aid ukrainian forces. we know, as you know, that the nato has been reluctant, for example, to take up the offer from poland because of fears of escalating the conflict further. we know that russia has threatened a several times now to a deploy nuclear weapons. what do you think about these concerns from ukraine's allies festival i won that you should have absolutely clear understanding which in do not stop on ukraine. if ukraine failed, nobody knows where tomorrow it will appear. if put in now, one agreed there lamp caught her daughter between crimea and occupied dorm boss. white to morrow, he do not want to make her lambs corridor for all. ah, russia dudek a leaning grout region. truly to any,

this is under the and in this is our joint tool. and ukraine simply don't have a time to wait until their western politician make a decision to gala said james, fight. this is very simple and the, it says press the full. this is the life of ukrainian every single hour. we lost our civilian, our soldiers, our children, and this everybody should understand the price for delay, a band of the bad. don't have any doubts that the flight will be here. and for example, we, when we're talking about a no fly zone any, if you are to lack them, not you, but rest them. condition are reluctant to give it to us because that is the demonstrating that some nato member states would be in the war. you should understand nato is already in the war with russia, and this will was launch and not by them. nature member states by, by bullshit. and if tomorrow, for example,

derosa will continue that tack of the chip. nobody owes up patricia. yeah. nuclear power station, which is 10 times more powerful than chill mobile. that is the fact that the, the nuclear contamination don't have any border. okay, that would be the danger for the whole a full europe. and that's why we are protecting the nuclear power station, protect them. civilian object, protect in ukraine. we are protecting germany, please. i as a president, we have efficient work with a germany. i'm very much appreciate it for the lead in the role of the german chancellor. i'm giller markel for their blunder stock, where to recover bipartisan support. i'm very much appreciated the diplomatic acids, right. okay. which ever confidential? but please now, we definitely need emerson's capable because the concave ability, mr. pushing. i do want to get your take on diplomatic efforts because we have seen,

as you know, this meeting between the ukrainian and russian foreign ministers earlier in the day, the didn't seem to make much progress. but there seems to be some sort of door open, perhaps a window for the meeting between vladimir zalinski, the ukrainian president, and perhaps a vladimir putin. at the same time you're saying, let me put in is responsible for war crime for genocide. should there be diplomatic talks between the 2 leaders? definitely, yes. was no any mation in the world once be more than be great. and we sent you all, don't what unit is and we have some progress because just like weeks ago, 2 weeks ago or june is not what is, is refusing to meet zelinski to meet norman before much because he said that he has nothing to say to talk about today because of the re, man army because of our soldiers because of the unity of ukraine and people who can understand that peasy idea of bleak lives creek is pale than i am today. and i can

be a lover of said that movie is ready to have any go t please get out from your grey man soil. please get out your troop, please stop kill in your grave. and this is absolutely perm basis for negotiation. oh, i definitely know, would you very well and i have 5 years experience in negotiation with him. i don't, prosecutor goes no one. he would know never when he promised me to make a cease fire to release the costa just to withdraw his troops. never keep gives us . but please the stronger we are. yes it more attractive is the diplomacy? would you go as far as we allowed them to go? now, because of our unity because of the sanction, because of the, our cooperation, we care about unique jobs to stop boot. good, please. let's not miss these jobs. okay. we'll have to leave it there. petto put our shank are the president of ukraine from 2014 to 2019. joining us today from

kiev. thank you for sharing your insights with us today. thank you. thank you. now the united nation says around 2200000 people have now fled ukraine. most of them are women and children, often leaving loved ones behind to fight, not knowing whether they'll see each other again. the majority of the refugees arriving in poland, dw alexandra phenomena sent us this report from the western border crossing of shanie. one last embrace before they say good bye, vadim has brought his family to the polish border so they can leave the country. he will be heading back to the frontline. yes, this is j law. i thought it is because of the kids all make with no one wants to leave their home. it's so hard to you. you can't explain. it is we will a boy. it's hard to lose. we don't know whether we're going to see each other again, either which him with c global probe on emily's illinois. it was so good. tell them

by my side. when you're together with your family, you feel better for those now i'll be alone. but i know there will be safe schools for one and it safety's just a few meters away. we are at the border check point in shaheen. the busiest border crossing between ukraine and poland. those who are now here have been waiting flowers just like natalia and her twins. they escaped to russian bombardments in harkins, in eastern ukraine, tossed among citizens. we've been through a lot. you're sitting in the hall or in the cellar with your children while they bombing the city and don't know, will a bomb dropped now and that's it. so what did we do to deserve that? natalia doesn't believe that the war will be over soon. many ukrainians seem to think the same and sold alliance at the border and not getting any shorter people on the move, both inside and outside the country in desperate need of protection and support. as

rush us war with ukraine continues an estimated 4000000 people may flee the country according to the united nations, hottie and snacks for free, distributed by ukrainian and international volunteers along the road to the border . this is where we meet not tele from keith. she's traveling alone with her 3 children. did him to go over those with children are suffering the most because my husband had to staying keith. they cry. my oldest son keeps asking. will we never ever see dad again? and he starts crying again. the un has called it the fastest growing refugee crisis in europe since world war 2. this is what it looks like in real life. let's get some other headlines in the conflict now. britain says it has freezing the assets of several russian oligarchy, including those of roman. i'm abramivitch,

travel bands have also been implemented in russia and response to the invasion of ukraine. abramoff, which is a close ally of russian president putin. he recently announced his plans to sell english football team chelsea and to donate the proceeds to war victims in ukraine . washington is warning of a potential chemical or biological weapons attack by russia in ukraine. it comes after moscow accused the u. s. of supporting a bio weapons program in ukraine, the by the administration believes the accusation could be an attempt by the kremlin to justify such an attack. us vice president to come le harris is in warsaw for talks with polish leaders. tensions are high after the united states rejected a proposal from poland to transfer, make 29 fighter jets to where you as their base, and then deliver them to ukraine. after concluding her visit to poland, harris will then head onto romania. and the u. s. house of representatives has approved a massive spending bill that includes $13600000000.00 of aid to ukraine and european

allies. those funds will cover the cost of sending us troops and weapons to eastern europe, as well as care for refugee. if i decide where the hot with war, raging at home, many ukrainian artists have found shelter abroad, the keys city ballot ballet was touring and france when russia invaded ukraine. its dancers delivered an emotional performance in paris while struggling to keep in touch with family and friends. trapped at home, ah, the dancers of the key of city ballet left home thinking they were going on a european tour. now they have no idea when they'll get back home to ukraine. the tea i told you, shut, lay in paris, has offered them a stage. and a temporary residency, please sit on the dr. dillinger creating is an act of resistance. d. as said, it's an actor. it says to those who want to occupy ukraine to vladimir putin. here

we continue to look forward to look far upward to use culture also as a peaceful weapon nom up, but that's what we're doing here tonight at the shuttling theater. swab is you at the, i thought you shortly are only part of the company was traveling when the war broke out. meaning many of their artists are still stuck in ukraine. the uncertainty of what's to come has left the dancers physically and emotionally exhausted. a terrible shock with dr to connect or family all the time during the day during the night. just use i can't explain what i am feeling because you in worries all the time. all 13 days we are praying for our feminist food grain. amid the anxiety, the chance to keep dancing in france is a lifeline. being able to focus on work is kind of

a bright point in our day. when we get to focus on ballet steps and focus on music and something other than the conflict anyway. the young dancers performed to a full house and too much applause on tuesday night, dancing in safety and friends, but their hearts and minds are with their families in ukraine. let's get a recap now. of our top headline, ukraine's foreign minister says, talks with russia made no progress towards ending fresh us or on ukraine demitra. could they by made those comments after meeting with russia as foreign ministers are off in turkey lap. ross, sad, russia was prepared to discuss security guarantees for ukraine and that russian president, putin would not refuse a meeting with his ukrainian counterpart. but columbus that russia was seeking

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who? ah. ah, the youngest victim is a teaching a round top of ukrainian refugees on children escaping the constant danger. they had to say good bye. and the trauma of small stains focused on europe.

on dw, into conflict with sebastian has nato accepted that ukraine will fall. what could it still see a moral imperative to intervene directly in combat? my guest this week from washington is constant spell simila, a foreign and security expert, and the brookings institution from a specialist on germany and tons with landtech relations conflict zone. in 60 minutes on d w. oh we're all good to go beyond deal with as we take on the world 8 our can i do all this. yeah. we're all about the stories that matter to you.

whatever it takes. 5 policemen, a deal we are your is actually on fire made for mines with hello . hello and a warm welcome to focus on europe. the images and news coming from ukraine are harrowing, hooton's war has unleashed suffering and death upon the civilian population. their families are desperate to escape the bombs of russia's army and many are being forced to leave their lives. and most of their possessions behind numerous read.